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"They had tents, they wouldn't leave evidence." How the fuck did they make a golden calf then?
@heiyuall
21 күн бұрын
Great point.
@LOwens-xf8yo
18 күн бұрын
Also, according to the Bible, there were millions of people. Millions living in tents would still leave evidence. Millions wandering a relatively small contained area, even changing locations frequently, would leave behind trash & broken pottery & burial sites. All of which disappears if God wants it to disappear. Perhaps god miracle-d all the evidence away, like he did with the flood.
@LOwens-xf8yo
18 күн бұрын
Millions of people over 40 long years would necessarily leave behind trash sites, broken pottery, & burial sites. Ofc God can always miracle away all the evidence, like he did after the flood.
@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING
17 күн бұрын
@@LOwens-xf8yo "The flood" 😆🤦♂️ (I know you aren't a delusional fool like the caller, I just thought that was funny)
Poor Rob. He trully believes in this magical fairy tale. 😂
As a Rob from New York State, I'm officially banning this one from the meetings. You do not represent us, sir.
@Leith_Crowther
21 күн бұрын
We’ve lost John, Mike, and now Rob. My God, these formerly common-ass names are gonna be super inconvenienced now that many have lost the right to these names.
@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761
21 күн бұрын
Ooohhh but he do....
@terrycraig6386
21 күн бұрын
Sheesh. who cares if you both share a namesake? There's more than one person where I live with my name too.😮
@SecondaryHomunculus
21 күн бұрын
@@terrycraig6386 You must be fun at parties.
@boblaplace7993
20 күн бұрын
We kicked his grandfather out of Oregon.
9:39 Shout out to "WRONG!" Guy 😂 You sir 🍻
Is Rob a real person? He sounds like an SNL character.. 😅
@Nocturnalux
21 күн бұрын
He’s called several times.
@twilightsparkle75
21 күн бұрын
As far as i can tell, rob is the same person as Mark from Austin Stone who used to call the atheist experience like a decade ago.
@Nocturnalux
21 күн бұрын
@@twilightsparkle75 Not the same person.
Of course the bible is true! There are talking animals, sorcerers, literal magic and fire-breathing sea serpents everywhere.
@annnoelanders3514
21 күн бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@donaldsmith7824
21 күн бұрын
Yes, just so obvious, plus the articulating reptile, I have several as Facebook friends the bible is my go to source.
@jaclo3112
21 күн бұрын
And let's not forget virgins being impregnated by ghosts, magical fruit and dead preachers reanimating and levitating into space. And it must be true because it's "history"....amirite 😄
@jiubboatman9352
21 күн бұрын
Yeah but Tolkien has more wizards.
@raccuia1
21 күн бұрын
Was there that dude who parted a sea? What was his name again? Was it Roses, Boses, Closes? It'll come to me in a minute.
9:20 does rob know that the confederacy used their religion to justify slavery?
@capthavic
21 күн бұрын
They weren't "true" Christians like Rob /s
@sparki9085
21 күн бұрын
@@capthavic damn you're right. I didn't think about that
Theists who are too thick to realize they're being mocked are a commodity that should be traded on the stock market.
@Leith_Crowther
21 күн бұрын
What’s the point of mocking theists if they don’t know about it?
@gatorboymike
21 күн бұрын
@@Leith_Crowther Cuz they'll continue obliviously saying whatever it is you're mocking.
As soon as he said "Endiku", I lost my shit 😅 I want to get Rob and the Ancient Aliens guys together in a room to talk about it. I would pay to be a fly on the wall for that batshit insane conversation.
@MichaelDeakin-or8yu
21 күн бұрын
So, wait... Rob is a laxative?
@LOwens-xf8yo
18 күн бұрын
Especially in response to questions about epistemology. His epistemology is simply to add more & more claims and calling those “better tools.” Except the discussion was about HOW one determines truth. Simply believing ancient texts from only one specific region of the world is not a successful truth-seeking strategy.
God is less useful than Alexa. All hail Alexa!
@ScornedOne1080
21 күн бұрын
All hail Alexa, order and thou shalt receive. 😂😂
@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING
17 күн бұрын
But Alexa can answer and be completely wrong sometimes! Not a fair comparison!!!!! (Hey atleast she answers to people that aren't schizophrenic 😆)
@cshubs
16 күн бұрын
@@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING The answer might be wrong-- but at least she gives an answer!
People were killed for expressing their non-belief, and people still dare to ask what is the harm of religion? How come I call it antihuman?
@LOwens-xf8yo
18 күн бұрын
Exactly! Xianity was obligatory in western civilization for over a 1,000 years, often under punishment of death or torture. But even under the worst non religious regimes, in repressive countries where practicing religion might get thrown in prison, I’ve never heard of any place where not being an atheist was a capital offense. Have you?
Rob went full Mr. Hippo in this one!
@Aaron-my9zy
21 күн бұрын
ayo a FNAF reference? nice!
I'm still convinced that he is a poe/troll, he cannot be real.
@twilightsparkle75
21 күн бұрын
Dude this is Mark from the Austin Stone Church. Remember that like 10 years ago? Same voice same inflections different accent lol.
"You're not going to find cloth that is thousands of years old." *points to mummies in museums all over the world.*
So that must mean Lord of the rings and Harry Potter are real too. Super popular books. Cool, I knew elves were real! ✨🧚🏻♀️✨
@supanuh
15 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@einienj3281
15 күн бұрын
@@supanuh And we know that the book "everyone poops" is accurate too. Wow. Every book must be accurate. Who would make a book about silly and unrealistic things? Surely no one.. 🤭
Mass media keeps me aware of people like the caller.
Damn, only god interacting with me at assembly line was Boredom.
Has he been gettingtold how to answer questions by Jordan Peterson? Talking about anything else but the question?
It is a better argument though a faulty one that if a book is massively popular it IS a work of fiction. Almost all 50 million and up selling books are works of fiction with a self help book exception. It doesn't mean truth certainly. There is however a pretty strong showing for popular inclinations and interests.
Stupidity is valuable to remain hung up on faith.
Christianity is not Religion. Christianity is A Religion.
Imagine calling a national show all the time getting destroyed in argument every time, and still call back again and again.
Scientists have calculated that if all water on Earth were liquified (polar ice caps melted, mountain snow and ice melted, Greenland Ice melted, all atmospheric clouds and water vapor condensed, etc.), the global sea level would rise by about 250 feet. Not exactly a global flood. Sure, all coastal cities would be destroyed. But at 300’ elevation, good old Fresno would almost become oceanside property!
@capthavic
21 күн бұрын
Obviously the extra water went under the flat earth :3
@KingNast
21 күн бұрын
Theists will just argue that god can create and destroy water at will
"History is history." And mythology isn't history.
Ah, yes, the definition of 'unbiased' has always been 'biased in my favor'.
@Leith_Crowther
21 күн бұрын
Reality is biased, and I’m proudly biased in favor of reality. 🤷♂️
@N_IRL
21 күн бұрын
Reality has a secular bias
If I didn't know any better, I would have thought that Rob was Vince Russo.
Here’s what I enjoy: This person just reinforced a line I’ve been working on: That the right-wing wants policy and law decided in the court of public opinion. That’s their Achilles heel.
The goalposts of these Christians are even more elusive then their God.
1 out of every four males in the north is named John by the way
Rob sounds like he's just making stuff up as he goes along.
@tiltingwindmill
21 күн бұрын
Typical...
This book is popular cuz it’s called Best Seller book. While indoctrinated why didn’t I realized a God someone Up wanted his book sold😅
American Jesus is the best Jesus.
The Harry Potter books are incredibly popular, so they must be true. More than 180 million copies have sold in the USA alone. I could write an autobiography and sell none of them but it would be 100% true. Whatever you're smoking, Rob, just stop it.
Bob got a bad batch of whatever he’s taking.
Rob is correct. He got nothing out of this conversation
Timeline, put Animism and Shamanism on it...
Gillamesh and Enkidoo 😂
Bibles are at every hotel's night stand (or they were at least). That's not a bestseller trait, that's a free ad or a propaganda brochure trait. And if that's this guy's stupid way of determinig truth, with all of the insane capitalisation of christian church, I bet the Google's owner-company has *outtrued* that funny organisation already)
@anushkasekkingstad1300
21 күн бұрын
When my wife, our young daughters and I travel, our accommodation is organised through the travel department of my mother in law’s company. It’s a condition of their contract that there is no bible or religious material in any room booked by the company. In the event any is found, the accommodation charge for that night is waived. When our girls were very young, they eagerly searched the rooms for bibles, hoping to earn themselves a €20 finder’s fee per room.
@sirbarryvee-eight6485
21 күн бұрын
Nooo! They are multi purpose - something to read if you're that way inclined, or something to roll a joint in if that's your jam. Gideons bible has a lot of purposes. Squashing roaches if you're in one of the cheap flea pit motels for example.
@williamcreighton1417
14 күн бұрын
I accept the gifts of the bibles in hotel rooms and take them home and dump them in the trash
Good people often do good things, and bad people often do bad things, but for good people to do true evil requires religion.
Rob needs school ASAP
John have you sold all your possessions and disowned your family and followed just Christ then you're doing it wrong brother
There are many more atheists in the world than there are christians. Strongly secular countries such as Norway, Denmark and Switzerland are much less dysfunctional than the much more religious US or UK. Each of them has enormously lower crime rates than the religious country and each of them is strongly socially cohesive, unlike the deeply divided US or UK. In common with most people we know, my wife and I have never touched a bible, far less read the deep primitive ignorance contained within it. It promotes hatred, violence, ignorance, intolerance and bigotry. We were protected from it when we were schoolgirls. Some 30 years ago, it was a crime for a teacher to expose us to a bible in our school, just as today it would be a crime for a teacher to expose our 11 year old daughters to it. Rob clearly needs to read more widely and travel more than he does. It would be a safe bet that nobody has ever accused Rob of being remotely bright.
@richardcooper9167
18 күн бұрын
The UK is way more secular than the US, and your figures are a bit confident - there can only be rough estimates but there are around 1B avowed atheists on the planet.
@anushkasekkingstad1300
18 күн бұрын
@@richardcooper9167 The UK is marginally more secular than the U.S. but you have the nonsense of having bishops in parliament, a monarch with the title of “defender of the faith” and many more people are christened than not. There are still more “christians” than atheists. Like everywhere, the sheer nonsense of christianity sees it in substantial decline. I have no idea what makes an atheist “avowed” but my family and I are atheist because we don’t know of any substantive evidence for the existence of gods. That’s all being an atheist is. It tells you nothing more about us than that we hold that basic belief. My wife, our young daughters and I each holds citizenship of 7 nations and can live in each of them without religion raising its ugly head. Some 91% of Chinese are atheist, giving us some 1.3 billion for openers. Japan, at 89% atheist adds another 100 million or so. Several significant countries are around 70% atheist, including my own, thankfully. Over 60% atheist includes the likes of Germany, Hong Kong, South Korea, Vietnam, Canada and Spain. Even the deeply dysfunctional U.S. adds about 150 million to the number. India adds several million more
Please fix the typo in the thumbnail
When someone is a regular caller that means nooooooonnee will engage them in conversation
How long does it take to realize this dude is crazy?
"To be an unbiased witness you have to agree with me." This guy only uses his brain to hold his ears apart.
I don't miss Rob from Long Island
Does anybody know that anything is true? What is truth to the atheist? Is it subjective? If so, then you are reduced to solipsism. Is it objective? Then how do you account for it? Where does it come from? How do you justify your belief in universal absolutes?
Oh the Harry Potter of it.
If the proof of the flood in Gilgamesh was true, then the biblical flood failed in it's goal to get rid of all people except of Noah and his family. So the Bible fails again. Baaaad example to pick :D
4:35 when he said believers don't follow other believers they follow themselves. That was the most dishonest biggest piece of bullshit he's ever spouted. He himself claims to believe in the words of Matthew Mark Luke and John therefore other believers God what a liar
It's pointless talking to him, he does not listen.
Is it racist to anticipate someone's answer or interaction with the hosts just by listening to his/her accent?
@Leith_Crowther
21 күн бұрын
Are you sure you’re not actually using your knowledge of the English language and the speaker’s positions?
This caller was insufferable
@anushkasekkingstad1300
21 күн бұрын
Of course he was ~ he was a US American christian bigot.
This dude needs to be talked to like a toddler. He literally doesn’t understand how to have a conversation yet
This is the dumbest argument ever. This logic would never be applied to any other beliefs. He was brainwashed, most likely as a child, and now it’s true cause it has been my whole life.
He must be troll. Right?
He tells a story about someone who survived the flood when according to the bible no one survived other than Noah and his family. Fails to see that proves the bible is wrong.
"You're saying you have to already believe it in order to believe it. Do you do that anywhere else in life?" I want to live in a world where my fellow atheists use this same logic against their own beliefs. If we're going to call out theists for their circular arguments, we need to call out gender ideology for the same reasons. "A woman is anyone who identifies as a woman" is not any different from this "The Bible is true because the Bible says it is true" nonsense. Are you dedicated to the truth or are you not? This has implications, too, because a clever theist (or a more honest atheist) could use this against you. If you're not consistent in your search for the truth, but only in certain areas, it lends credence to that stupid claim of "You're just mad at (the concept of) God and want to sin."
@Leith_Crowther
21 күн бұрын
Ask a psychologist why you’re wrong. You’re like a creationist who only talks to layman atheists about evolution.
@blossom357
21 күн бұрын
@@Leith_Crowther I'm not saying gender dysphoria isn't real, if that's what you're getting at. I'm saying the solution to dysphoria is not to transition or to encourage that delusion. If it were, then why don't we do that for eating disorders? "Yes, you ARE fat even though you are skinny. Anorexia/bulimia is good for you. No problems here." This would be absurd, yet that's precisely how we're currently treating those with gender dysphoria.
@Leith_Crowther
21 күн бұрын
@@blossom357No, I was getting at the fact that if you really think you can overturn the consensus in psychology or sociology, you should do the same thing we tell creationists to do: talk to those scientists and have them explain to you why you’re wrong instead of arguing with lay people on KZread. EDIT: And liking your own comments is just sad.
@jaclo3112
21 күн бұрын
Transgenerism has nothing to do with atheism. Stop trying to make atheism a hive mind like religion.
@Ben-no4lz
19 күн бұрын
Yet that doesn’t “have implications” because; A - There are plenty of Atheists who don’t agree with “gender ideology”. B - It’s completely irrelevant to Atheism. Atheism is a position on a Single Question: “Are you convinced a God or gods exist?” Yes = Theist No = Atheist Any position on any other subject….is irrelevant to Atheism.
Classic northerner
I really do think this person may be doing some kind of an art happening! He doesn't make any sense and manages to use a lot of words strong together amounting to absolutely nothing
What a shocker that Rob doesn't know sh*t about socialist/communist history as well as not being able to back up his biblical nonsense
"BECUASE" ? Who types your video's thumbnails? You need a better typist.
If anyone lack wisdom, let him ask of God.
@richardb7495
21 күн бұрын
Nice maxim. He never answers so hes either mute or non existent
@basschoone6622
21 күн бұрын
That would probably be the reason they lack wisdon
@N_IRL
21 күн бұрын
What if I don't use he/him pronouns, do I ask Satan instead? That's badass I'mma do it
@rbwinn3
21 күн бұрын
@@richardb7495 The voice of God is unto all men, and there is none who will not hear, neither heart that will not be penetrated.
@rbwinn3
21 күн бұрын
@@basschoone6622 They lack wisdom because they do not seek after wisdom.
Repent of your sins. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. John 3:16, Luke 13:3, 1 Peter 1:23 KJV
@Furry-iousNews
21 күн бұрын
Why?
@dylanpatterson7149
21 күн бұрын
I don’t really like to read fiction, no thanks
@Gwaithmir
21 күн бұрын
"And they shall stand in despair before the white cliffs of the world, and shall chant from their empty tomes in vain, for their words are nothing! And Erú shall prevail against His enemies, and they shall be cast into the Void, for their enchantments are naught and their gods are helpless before Him." (The Silmarillion, 17:82)
@tiltingwindmill
21 күн бұрын
Oh, ffs. This is sooo stupid. Engage with the video. Engage with a commenter. But, come on, pal, pasting in bibble verse references is just about the most ridiculous thing possible. Try harder.
@jameswade2613
21 күн бұрын
Why should i believe in your jesus for salvation & become a new person if your god couldn't get it right in the first place. Your god stuffed up by creating sin & me imperfect being & you want me to go to the same god who screwed up for the remedy for fixing his stuff up. Nope
so are are all my collection of comics