It looks like Skyemac has raised the price of this mattress to $120. Even at that price it is a great deal less than the DOD version. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts everyone. S&H - Luke

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

It went up to 128$ but currently has a coupon for 8 off. That is, if you have prime. I dunno what it costs without.

@chalion8399

9 ай бұрын

@@tacticalcenter8658 Also, if you do it right, you can get the pillow included free.

@jervez911

9 ай бұрын

Strange they did that right after your video. 😂

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

@@jervez911 its not strange. Its a feature they can do. They can see the stats and do it on purpose.

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

@@timothymckee7693 I dont believe he has any ties to it in that nature. The retailer did it. He didn't know they were going to do that. Best idea is to not include a link to the video but even then they can always up the price when they see more than a few sales coming in which is very common for amazon retailers to do.

im emailing the skyemac company and asking why they raised the price right after this video.. this is insane

@mikekraut7643

9 ай бұрын

Supply and demand

@SLickev92

9 ай бұрын

Don’t buy it, simple as that .

@SmithFarmTilton

9 ай бұрын

@@SLickev92 I won't buy this based on them trying to gaffe the public with the crazy price increase.

@jwmmitch

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. Video is 3 days old and it's already $130 (and $200 for the double)

@SLickev92

9 ай бұрын

@@jwmmitch price gouging, greedy

I looked up both through your link and the sky emac is now 311.10 and the dod pad is 479. Crazy!! As soon as you made your video they must have raise the price. Not so cheap. Thanks for the review you always do a great and thorough job!!!

Awesome review and providing an alternative to the DOD product, Luke. I bought a similar mattress earlier this year on Amazon from the Lost Horizon brand for $100 and used it for the first time in March sleeping in the back of my 4Runner. I didn't expect the temps to drop so much and to wake up to a snow dump but I slept through it all uninterrupted and warm with the mattress combined with my Sea to Summit BC3 sleeping bag. I even had a flannel inner liner just in case for extra warmth if I found myself waking up cold in the middle of the night but didn't need it at all. The Amazon description lists a supposed 11.8 R-value for my mattress.

Finally someone brought this up!

That's awesome, Luke. Thanks for the review. The Skyemac would be definitely a go for me, you don't have to pay a fortune! Appreciate the video! wasn't aware of this. 👍👍

Will be watching for your updated review of this down the line. As I got older I switched to a cowboy bedroll with an air mattress versus a ground pad and sleeping bag when I retired from running sled dogs and also began overnight hiking less, overlanding/base camping more where weight and carry size was a far lesser issue. A reasonably priced memory foam inflatable like this that would up the comfort level beyond just a regular air mattress is right up my alley and will be curious as to your observations how it does in temperatures below 50°. Thanks for all the work you do!

That's all I need to know, Luke. I can definitely deal with the cons of the Skyemac vs. the price of the DOD pad. That's crazy what were they thinking? $300.00? that's fricking crazy. I think I will purchase the Skeemac. Again, thank you for the review.

I purchased the LOSTHORIZON twin mattress of this type and have no complaints. 4.5 thick, 75x38 R13. I did not feel any cold creep in a tent at 38F this fall. $135 at time of purchase from amazon. I did purchase a cheap battery operated inflater/deflator from walmart and that made rolling this mattress type up much easier.

Senior on social security here. I would buy the Skymak at that super sweet price point. I will check out your new channel. I am looking forward to the cold weather review followup.

I purchased the Skyemac off Amazon for $109. I tried it out in my living room the night I received it. Unbelievably comfortable. I am twice your weight and either on my back or my side, i did not feel the surface that I was laying on. Can’t wait to get it into the cold and see how it performs in the cold.

Great video as always! Very informative!!🙌

You’ve shown me my choice of sleep pad to buy next week , Skymac be looking but couldn’t find what to get , thanks Luke & best wishes to Susie

I have a different brand, similar style. Love it. The price was around 175, then came down to 140 on sale, so finally bought it. The Hikenture (Amazon) with R 9.5. Single size is $120, regular price. Usually I am cold, especially on an air mattress unless I put a wool blanket down. This was great.

❤😂🎉🎉🎉 Thanks for all the info, Luke!! This is good to know!!😊

I would buy Skyemac. I'm all about saving money, especially in these hards times. I like the color of Skyemac and it looks very comfortable. Great video. Thanks for sharing.👍

I love these types of pads. I use the Cabellas version. It's more comfortable than my expensive sagging mattress. I take it car camping and portaging but am seriously tempted to back pack with it too because of how comfortable it is.

$300 for one of these is just outrageous. Which is why I didn't purchase the DOD back when I was in the market for a nice 4" pad. I went with the Hikenture 4" sleeping pad with a 9.5R value on Amazon. It is similar to this skyemac one. I've used it only 2 times since I bought it but it seems to be a really good value at around $125. I use it in my tent on a Onetigris cot. It's comfortable and uses the same style of valve for inflation. Comes in 3 different colors, with an inflation sack and that's about it really. Winter is upon us and hopefully I can get out and test the 9.5R value. It also comes in 2 sizes, regular and a double. Thanks for the review.

So much better than the 0.50” foam pad I used to use back in the day. Probably why I have six bulging discs in my spine now. Actually, the disc damage is from the work I used to do, but I’m sure sleeping on the ground with a half inch foam pad didn’t help. 😅

Going to order my brother the Skyemac for Christmas...Thanks Luke

Hi Luke, just a quick comment on your method of rolling these memory foam mattresses. I have had a similar exped model and I believe my method of rolling is more effective than the method that you demonstrate. The valve can be rotated to air in but not out or air out but not in. In the second position the air leaves the mat but cannot return due to the one way valve. Instead of attempting to roll up a mat from the bottom in one process, during which the mat fights back using the memory foam, trying to reinflate the mattress. Set the valves to out only. Loosely fold the mattress up from the bottom in 3 or 4 folds and learn on the mattress in this position. This will remove the majority of the air and the one way valve will stop the mattress from reinflating. Then unroll and starting from the bottom, rolling toward the value end. Most of the air is already out, so this second step allows you to roll the Matt tighter with less effort as most of the air is already removed. You can now roll in the same manner as you have demonstrated but with much less resistance from the Matt and the memory foam. This will produce a much tighter smaller pack size. Another significant hint provided by the manufacturer is Do Not store the Matt in the rolled position for long periods of time as the memory foam will lose its memory. If you must store it rolled up, the manufacturer suggests that you allow it to reconstitute back to original dimensions for 2 days prior to travel. This will allow the mattress to fluff up and improve the self inflating character when used at camp. No more waiting for a long period for the memory foam to reinflate fully.

Thank you Luke!!!!

Luke the valve on that pad appears reversible like sea to summit pads. So reversing it when deflating makes it sooo much easier.

Great video as usual Luke😀. By the way FYI Dod cost a lot more in US not sure why, on Dod Japanese site here in Japan the biggest version with extras (CM3-651-TN SOTONE NO KIWAMI (L) with pillow and cover sheet) marked as 3 person mattress is listed for 30000 yen that is 200 USD. So for a comparison the S size no extras (CM1-941-TN SOTONE NO KIWAMI AIR (S)), single person, is listed as 17600 yen that is 118 USD so it is not far from the Skyemac. You probably are paying a lot more for the import taxes, etc etc.

Open cell foam, not memory foam in the DoD. Memory foam is quite a bit heavier. It just feels like memory foam when inflated. Better quality/functioning valves on the DoD. Packed weight and dimensions not a big deal for this sort of product. I transport mine in my roof rack. Not like you're carrying it into the backcountry. I am a very cold sleeper and usually need two sleeping bags and two wool blankets. This year on my DoD mattress I only used my OneTigris summer quilt and nothing else (spring/summer). There are plenty of options out there for this type of mattress now. It's good to have choices. If you're willing to spend the money (and are 6'2" like my husband) you won't regret buying the DoD.

I just picked up this sleeping pad after a rough couple nights sleeping on the Big Agnes Rapide SL insulated pad. I thought that pad would be comfy after reading all the reviews, not to mention the price of it, but boy was it not for me as a back sleeper. Amazon now says that the Skyemac pad has an R rating of 13! I'm skeptical since the DOD pad is only rated at R8.5 if I remember right. Either way, if it is only at around 8, it should be plenty warm with the military issue MSS I use. Thanks as always for the heads up on another great product!

thats awesome, the price is what prevented me from considering the DOD in the past

I'm looking forward to colder weather for camping myself

Nice review Luke. While both of these mattresses seem nice, it would seem that even at $128, (Amazon US has it for $8.00 off to make it $120), the Skyemac is still less than half the $300 cost of the DOD. Provided that materials and QC are similar, my only reservation to buying the Skyemac would be the R value. It would be a smart move on Skyemac’s site to list this (And by appropriate standards). Knowing what conditions one can take this mattress out into would help many in figuring out what works for an end user’s specific needs. Minus these caveats, it’s really a no brainer !!!

Decathlon's Ultim Comfort series pad is similarly priced (@100€), superbly comfortable - I use it as a legit spare bed (with several hundreds of my own sleepovers with my son). And Decathlon states the R value as 8.6, which I'm inclined to believe.

$75 US is £62 but here in the UK they want £192 so plenty of mark up

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

They raised the price as soon as they found it was linked to a review getting lots of sales.

I truck camp with my Klymit sleeping pad and started using my battery leaf blower to inflate and deflate it when it deflates it does so well its difficult to roll up but it is flat as a pancake. I don’t leave home without it now!

Very cool

I have NO problem buying this, the stove became my favorite piece of kit after ONE use. Also you could actually backpack two of these if you had a partner....load them with 2 and a bunch of water up to 20 pounds and you carry the main pack.

Sea to Summit Camp Plus is a great alternative for $100 its a little smaller, 25" wide 3" thick so can fit 2 of them side by side in a smaller tent. 4.3r-value. It also packs down smaller if you don't have a lot of room. Would probably handle a side sleeper up to 175lbs without feeling the ground.

I have been very pleased with Exped DEEPSLEEP MAT 7.5 for car camping, definitely smaller, but that's what I wanted for it to fit inside my car.

@Ejak777

9 ай бұрын

I second that!

I would pick the Skyemac because I am shorter, I do not need the extra width for comfort, and I do not camp out often enough to warrant paying more for a mattress.

Thanks for the info. Be kind to each other. Stay safe. Love to all

In Canada SKYEMAC is $311CAD($230USD)

Losthorizon Airsoft 4.5” Is a good one as well. I have this one.

Good review. I'll have to keep an eye on it for a sale. I wonder how it compares to the EXPED deep sleep? (3", 9 R val, 1lb). Got it for $99 on sale, super happy with it so far.

Wow!

Look at the losthorizon large my friend. Think it would suit you're truck a lot better. I absolutely love mine so comfy with an untested r value of 13. Would love to see a togr from yourself on it

Handy for car or truck camping

תודה!

Skyemac hands down

I just checked; the price is up $50.00!

@Mecha04

9 ай бұрын

I was see this yesterday and they price was $75. They might have known that Luc was going to do a review of their product

Skyemac is my vote, but both are very heavy for hiking with so I would not one either one they are very heavy? Great video thanks.

Thanks! This retired granny can use all the dollars you can find!

Always trust your reviews. Thanks, Luke! Btw, I followed your Amazon link and the current price for this product is $128.99 - $8 coupon.

@robkunzig5795

9 ай бұрын

Skyrmac would do themselves a big bonus if they gave a $90 deal to all who buy via your link!!! We would never forget them and likely would always be checking their products First, before buying... instant loyalty

I’d buy that for a dollar! 🎉

I'm curious how this mattress compares to the Nemo Roamer, Exped Megamat, REI Camp Dreamer, and others. I love my Nemo Roamer, but would definitely be interested in recommending to friends for cold weather car camping if the Skyemac sleeps warmly around and below freezing.

The Skyemac Sleeping Pad will do me the price difference is incredible.

Luke - do you suspect there are many differences in these knock off amazon, 4ish inch self inflating foam pads? I bought a "Hey Trip" brand off Amazon last year for car camping and it seems pretty similar and has worked well

Great video, thanks for sharing. BTW, Amazon description says the R value is 13! Can this really be true I wonder?

Skyemac must have seen your review and raised the price lol 😂

This is why I never talk about a product being a bargain. Now that they doubled the price of what Luke said. I won't purchase based on this alone, and I suggest that you dont either.

DoD is made in Japan. Of course, it will be a lot higher price and the quality will be beyond without a doubt. I do agree about the price.

Both still expensive for what they are. Take a lot of much needed space when car camping and harder to roll up and put into a bag than airbeds. Airbeds are the go to as they are much lighter and take up so little space and with the right additional product can easily block a cold ground effecting air temp in an airbed.

95 for black friday, I'll take it.

Yep thanks to your video it’s now $128!

Need me a double.....me & the dog. Berghaus is warm & comfy.

It's now $130 on Amazon as of 9/24/23.

As of 9/24/23 Amazon price is 128.99 with an 8.00 instant coupon. I still ordered it.

Will two of the singles fit in a one Tigris cosmitto 2.0?

What sleeping pad would you recommend for backpacking?

Forclaz makes a similar one ... and it is a good matras ...

No way I'm going to pay $300 for a sleeping pad. I'll buy a throwaway pool float every time I go out.

Can you review the Paria Outdoors sleeping pad and Zion Tent

i just received the Skyemac, thing to note it comes shipped folded in half then rolled up the storage bag is inside, the bag is also very large compared to the size of the mattress after you roll it up. i have not tryied this but am thinking you could even roll up your pad and mattress together and place it inside the storage bag like a bedroll

One thing lots of folks who have never been camping can understand? If ya can't sleep well, then the adventure can become sort of a nightmare. Your body weight compresses your sleeping bag down to nothing truly insulative. Ya might not find sleeping pads very sexy to shop for, but having a good one... when you truly NEED one.... makes a huge difference. Getting you up off the ground is important enough in ANY season, but in winter it REALLY matters.

I just want to buy it and it’s now $130!

While I wasn’t able to pull up the Skyemac pad, I did see some similar for about 150, but who knows if they are worth the same?

Will these fit okay on the Onetigris cot?

On Amazon, I’m seeing $120 with an R value of 13???? I would be VERY interested in your winter temperatures testing of this product. Thanks!

My favorite one is the sea to summit self inflating/quasi memory foam pad. (Comfort Plus SI) Just did a canada wide camping hiking trip and it was so nice, totally perfect sleeps.

Could you do like a top 10/tier list style countdown of your favorite tents or other gear you recommend or use. All "top 10 tents" videos are made by damn near ai generated channels that have not even tested the product

Right in the area where it's inflated a large bubble area is forming, so the rest of the air doesn't go to the rest of the mattress. Defect, or am I doing something wrong? Does this company have any customer service or email?

I can only find the double wide one now. Anyone know what happened to the single wide vs?

Luke I think for usit would be skymaci

Even Dechatlon has the same type mattress and that for € 99 (euros) with 2 valves to dentemine your sleeping comfort

Great review but personally I would not purchase either simply because of the weight and bulk like you said if your working right out of the truck weight and bulk are not an issue

Have You Ever Tested Eno Gear?

$125 now, price climbing

Looks like your review increased the popularity of this product and Amazon has jacked the price up to $128 with only an $8 coupon. The large size is $199. Oh well, still not too bad but I'll keep watching for the prices to come back down.

Is either mattress capable of being used every day

It's $89 during Amazon prime days and there's an $8 coupon as well.

An r-value of 8.3 is great for winter. Even better when it verified with the ASTM rating. It appears that the company doesn’t do this standard industry testing. That said, I don’t trust when a manufacturer makes up their rating.

Do you just review imported gear? In this case, thermarest has a similar mat for about the same price as DOD.

the Soto Link takes you on Amazon to a page with mattresses which don't include Soto

an idea for your videos about gear, why don't you suggest different sets for certain cost buckets? Like your best for under 200$ / the best for under 500$ and so on.

There are a lot of "Exped knockoff" products like this, at varying prices with varying quality.

$129 on Amazon ( Skyemac) went way up.

@user-ok8me1ze6h

9 ай бұрын

I just paid 245 the ZenBivy 3D Flex Mattress, R rated at 7 which is Highest I Ever saw Until This product.... I got the 30 inches wide and I forgot the length! Lol but I'm Camping with a Military I.C.S. tent and it fits inside almost entirely flush (I will reply with the exact measurements) But almost entirely with maybe two inches left on the sides and about 8 at the bottom part Or top part depending on where you want the space and it's 3 inches thick and I can barely sit Up inside the tent before the mattress, now My head is pushing into the roof like a Giraffe 🦒 In a Mini Cooper 😂😆😂 But I'm still Happy especially since the shipping was 10 said to arrive in 10 days and it did arrive in exactly 10 days EXCELLENT ...... Zen Bivy should have included the stuff sack with the carrying straps/ Handles

So when I go to buy this I can’t change the size of the mattress I want. It’s showing a picture of it with two people but I want the single version one. Can anyone help me out please? Thanks

I watch your channel, it's great, unfortunately what you advertise or there is a link to purchase, the prices are not current or the product is not available

What does the DOD stand for?

Screw them, DoD all the way!!

Unless I really need one I will stick with a cot. The blow up beds don't last to long, my opinion.

In the uK that skyemac is 192 £ which is about 235 $

I've seen ads for this "Baerskin" hoody a million times, it looks a cheap drop shipped piece of... merchandise, and the ads are infuriatingly patronizing about it. I'm not sure if it's been on your radar, but I think it could make an amusing review.