They really should partner with a backpack manufacturer. Once this chair is also a frame for a pack, it's a different ball game.

@rjstewart

2 күн бұрын

And the seat is a spare paddle for canoeing.

@S.L.1211

2 күн бұрын

Yes. Licence this out to various pack manufacturers. It’s a selling feature for a pack that your backpack frame is also a chair and that would let these guys sell more units.

@MattVHulst

2 күн бұрын

That’s what I thought this was when they first pulled it out

@ddff5242

2 күн бұрын

Agreed, that's the only way this idea works.

@philais

2 күн бұрын

i JUST HELPED THESE GUYS OUT AND BOUGHT TWO

Cut a hole in the seat, double as a crapper and I'm sold!!

@scotbotvideos

2 күн бұрын

That would make a lot of sense. Otherwise it's just another crap product.

@trevorf1838

2 күн бұрын

Just make a second seat option. Then charge me $350US...

@bagelfart8985

2 күн бұрын

@@trevorf1838🤣

@kmichaelp4508

2 күн бұрын

Brilliant 🤔

@atrent3732

2 күн бұрын

Great mind

I think the coolest part of this whole chair idea was the fact that they flew all the way out to get Dan’s opinion on it - on a product that’s never been seen before by anyone on the planet. Respect - love it. Creator economy ACTIVATE ;))

@idhatemet00

2 сағат бұрын

did not expect the fly fish dan - dan becker crossover, but i'm here for it lol

@canadianehbignorth7325

Сағат бұрын

That product by that company may have never been seen before... but the design is old a rusty nails.

The sticker shock is real. If they can get the weight down by even a half pound and make it part of a pack, it's more viable.

@Itll_do_food_forest

Күн бұрын

If they can get the price down by more than half!

@thespec64

9 сағат бұрын

@@Itll_do_food_forest This thing will sell massively if they can just lower the cost a couple hundred bucks.

@plmn93

9 сағат бұрын

They are right though, the cost isn't that bad when you consider that it should last a lifetime. Buy once, cry once.

@SanJoseBob

6 сағат бұрын

I would seriously consider 4 chairs for $1,000…..SanJoséBob

As an engineer myself, I think the simpler the better. As long as it gets the job done and it holds up just keep it as simple as humanly possible. I think these guys are on to a really good idea, and if they can find a way to integrate that as a backpack support frame as well then they've got a fantastic product on their hands.

@bearwynn

Күн бұрын

I agree but unfortunately when dealing with sticker shock the consumer would generally want more features. I think if it was a backpack frame too then people would be fine with a price that high. They could maybe look at making it into an external frame

@strongbear9304

Күн бұрын

@@JustJ001The “KISS PRINCIPLE” comes to mind. We used that acronym extensively in the Military “Keep It Simple, Stupid”.

@dustinweeks7245

12 сағат бұрын

$400 for a midget chair? GTFOH.

@chas4life

4 сағат бұрын

I am also thinking that with some sort of edge guard, it could be used for other purposes (shovel, anyone?)

We buscrafters have been making this for YEARS in the woods. Good to see communities coming together.

@Lalaafastroli

11 сағат бұрын

as a fellow bushcrafter, i have never took a hiking chair in the backwoods but have made plenty of makeshift chairs out of old logs myself. would love to try something like this! take care and stay safe!

@KylerTony45

2 сағат бұрын

NOT out of carbon fiber

Once this chair is also the frame of a backpack it will be the greatest chair on earth!

@tssharley5567

2 күн бұрын

This would effectively reduce the cost and weight of the chair as you remove the cost and weight associated with a frame

The fact that one oart of the chair can be the grame of a backpack and the other one a shovel for snow is mindblowing to me.

@shanedbunting

8 сағат бұрын

I saw an Oar for a raft as well.

@timoechsner1428

7 сағат бұрын

I was thinking the same.

Love this concept. I'm too old for backpacking but would like to see a "comfort height" version.

GREAT video - glad you invited the guys out - would love to see more prototype videos - very cool

Viking chair + fast forward to 2024 technology 🎉 Greetings from Norway

Two things come to mind are: 1) Model it to attach to the latest fad of Electric bikes for breaks maybe with a little table for lunch or picnic. 2) older folks like me have issues getting up or down when so close to the ground, maybe there could be taller seat somehow or a way to attach to elevate it on a milk crate or something? You likely have something there! Good luck!

Sticker shock for sure. Cool concept. Wish these dudes the best. Hopefully they can get the price down

As a senior, I see its benefits because we need to sit from time to time while we are out and about and it’s light weight and we could hook up a strap so we could carry it cross body. However, I think the biggest drawback for us would be how low it sits. If you could make it a little higher, I’d buy it! Could you create two different sizes? The baby boomer generation is a large part of our population and needs light weight products that help them to be more active. It is very creative and an amazing chair! I wish you much success with it!

Love it, I’ve always wanted an ultralight Viking chair. Way more comfortable than any bucket seat 🏆

@bradmyst1339

Күн бұрын

Heads up, the name Viking chair is not Viking historical. We haven’t found chairs like that in Norway or other Viking areas, but it has been found in the past.

@DanDanalog

17 сағат бұрын

I knew them as bog chairs, super easy to make out of scaffold boards

I saw it and was thinking "bog chair,bog chair, carbon fiber BOG CHAIR!" I wish I could afford one, and as a larger guy (290 lbs) it makes me smile seeing a chair that isn't "200 lbs limit"

I don't think it even needs to be the frame of the back pack... it just needs to absolutely nest neatly into the most back packs and lay flat where it needs to. That and it needs to be much much cheaper than the competitors. If it can do that, it's an absolute winner. Definitely be watching this one.

The support piece looks like a shovel, and it SHOULD be one! I could see that being a valuable piece of kit for backcountry skiing and mountaineering especially in snow, because of the shovel.

@plmn93

9 сағат бұрын

Or an emergency canoe paddle.

@chas4life

4 сағат бұрын

Or a mini toboggan for downhill sections lol.

Skeletonize it to reduce weight and design an ultralight pack around it using it as a frame sheet.

@PatrickKniesler

Күн бұрын

The nature of carbon fiber construction makes skeletonizing the seat portion less of an option, internally rigid structure with low weight infill is probably where the strength comes from.

Its super nice to see such innovative thinking. These guys will figure out how to over come some of the price and carrying issues.

Very simple and effective. As a bike packer, it wouldn’t work as too bulky to store on the bike, but if that got incorporated in to a high end frame for a backpack. I would 100% but it for hiking trips. I love ingenuity and change and this is that. Cost is subjective as they said. It should last a lifetime. No helinox chair will ever last a lifetime

I'm super impressed. It's a lifetime chair. I love it.

Awesome Chair... They are going to need to incorporate a bottle opener and lighten it up a bit to justify the price though.

@juansarmiento3857

2 күн бұрын

A bottle opener is gimmicky. Ain't no way I'm hauling glass on a backpacking trip.

@JacobGoulden

2 күн бұрын

Bottle opener mentioned in same sentence as carbon fiber lol

@urbanoutdoorsman

2 күн бұрын

I agree! No outdoor gear is complete without a bottle opener and a cork screw!

@flomax_actual

Күн бұрын

The gear we select should be multiple purpose. I would take chair car camping, to the beach, sporting / music events and kids rec games. All sorts of accessories could be builtin or removable/ reconfigurable to meet mission specs.

@valdemarjrgensen8128

Күн бұрын

​@@flomax_actual I really doubt the audience they are targeting with this are hiking with glass bottles. Sure it's nice when gear is multifunctional, but it's kinda important the function is even a desired one. Having the chair act as a frame in a pack, that's function that make sense. Randomly adding a feature most don't want, that only adds overall weight, is not a good idea. There's no way they are going to build in a reconfigurable bottle opener that's going to weigh less than just carrying a bottle opener separately. Not to mention your pack and plain old surroundings are probably filled with things you can open a bottle with.

Old design, new materials. Awesome.

That is amazing. It will definitely get lighter and using it as frame for backpack will make it net even less.

This is super cool. I love the innovation and the completely novel approach to the design over existing chairs and the quick set up time. I expect the price will come down as they eventually scale over time. I won’t be an early adopter but it’s neat. Thermoplastics would be an interesting way to explore maybe get cost/weight down. Perhaps latch points built into the design to attach it to packs in various ways? Maybe that’s not needed though Or form a partnership and licence these to a backpack manufacturer. You guys make the frame and supply it to them. Imagine a backpack manufacturer being able to market their frame doubles as a chair! This would allow them to sell more units without the capitol intensive job of starting their own backpack company.

I think these guys are on the right track. The idea as part of a backpack is amazing. But I can visualize it fitting on a bike behind the seat with some rods and hardware which could be sold separately. Hats off to these guys.

This is awesome. My issue with the Helinox is that it is still cloth that can catch an ember. I am a bigger gut (300 lbs. 6'7) and none of the light weigh back packing chairs hold me. If they could have color options that would be huge. Once they have it as a pack frame..... take my money!

I truly believe I would and could buy one of these chairs right now,I love it .

That seat I see also as a spine splint incase of a spine injury. Great idea.

Dan challenges the community. The community responds. Thank you Dan ❤

Love that this totally shakes up the design options for camp chairs. I hope this gets traction and we can see some more iteration after a few thousand user hours.

This is exactly what I've been using for years, but mine is made from 2x12's. I DO NOT carry it backpacking, but for sitting around camp and relaxing, this type of chair is very comfortable.

I love it! I think it’s really cool. I would try it and buy it. however I may have to wrap the cost in with my truck loan.

I have an Alite Butterfly and I noticed something on my last trip. Because the Butterfly doesn’t self support, I had an unconscious tendency to stand while doing random tasks instead of sitting to do them. Sitting required an intentional effort to get into the chair. After about an hour standing around camp I thought, damn I’m tired. Very similar psychology in not sitting for midday breaks. A frameless pack with a sleeve for this chair would be a perfect combo. Cut some weight and cost and I’m in.

@ryan92084

2 күн бұрын

agreed, but also get yourself the crossbar and turn that butterfly into a mayfly

Brilliant in so many ways.

Great find. Looking forward to completion!

Skeletonise the back rest to lower cost, seat as a paddle/ spade to clear your site / sled in the snow, holes down the side to strap to anything, and u could make it even smaller to fit into a bladder pouch for ultra light packing.... lots of potential if you ask me, make it multi purpose and its a good product! :)

Yeah. I’ll definitely purchase one.

Already in my cart! You have no idea how many chairs I’ve been through because they dig into the ground and end up snapping at the connection joints…..it’s way more than $500 dollar by now. This chair is definitely THE ONE for someone like me who is literally out in games, and camping, and fishing, and hiking. The slim size of this chair is super backpackable 🩷!! I’m super in love with the chair and I’d rather buy it nice than buy it twice.

Would love too see it be multipurpose! Frame for the backpack, maybe a cot frame, put hooks on it so you can hang your water filter from it, possibly a way to convert it too a table, build trekking poles into the design so it can function as more then one item. All that carbon fiber and capability to handle weight maybe a bear canister.

We pay so much for our premier sleeping pads, sleeping bags, backpacks, and tents, so why not spend more for a premium chair? The cool factor of having something so unique and comfortable makes it definitely worth the price to me! Great job, guys, and thanks for sharing with all of us, Dan. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Wow! American ingenuity on display! This is an excellent beginning for a unique product. Thanks, Dan, for sharing a sneak peek.

Would be cool if thrre was a multi-purpose aspect to it, like using it as a shovel or something

@dwayneb7440

2 күн бұрын

A bag stiffener for a portage pack

Super innovative product taking inspiration from nordic design and infusing it with modern materials. As a backpacker for more than 45 years, I've watched many product improvements come to market. This one is a winner if you can get the price point down somewhat and/or incorporate it with a backpack system. I really like the 2 second setup and trailside opportunity. The shovel end of it also makes it interesting for X-country skiing/ winter camping if it isn't affected by cold.

Awesome !

A Viking carbon fiber chair! How Awesome! For backpacking the 2+ lbs is too heavy. Also it seems to sit lower than current chairs. That’s a problem for folks with knee issues. So carrying, height of seat, weight, and cost are the issues. Once they get that dialed in, it will be a best seller!

@amorton94

Күн бұрын

So every part of it is an issue 🤣

Really innovative idea! It’s nice to see new stuff! Indeed to make it really appealing it needs to be lighter and cheaper. But you have the time of installing as a game changer.

When you first put it together, my first thought was that's like a modern carbon fiber version of a Viking chair. Very interesting concept. You could also use one part as a shovel for snow, etc, or even an impromptu paddle. As others have said, having a backpack with a slot similar to a hydration pouch where it could double as a stay would be beneficial, especially if easy to put in and remove.

Carpenters have been making on site chairs like this forever!!! What a great move for them

Is that seat also a canoe paddle? Could it pull double duty for canoe campers?

@vango20

2 күн бұрын

Emergency canoe paddle….

@marthagarcia5620

2 күн бұрын

@@vango20 Absolutely. I thought the same thing.

@patina_turner6791

Күн бұрын

I was looking for this comment, I thought the same

@terwonick

Күн бұрын

Or doubles as a snow shovel for winter camping.

Great idea.

Wow this thing is so cool!

Brilliant!

I think you hit the nail on the head about the two main problems this chair will face: sticker shock and the room it takes up in the pack. If it could pull double duty as a pack frame, that might make it more reasonable. When they first took the two pieces apart to assemble it, I initially thought one of the pieces was a shovel. So it might be possible to tweak it a bit and have it double as a snow shovel for winter camping. When you add any extra functionality, the price and weight become more feasible. Having said that, if you could get the weight down below a pound, you'd have a real market for ultralighters (those who would consider taking a chair, that is.) And since you said you were considering other materials, maybe there could be a price tier, like plastic composite for the lower cost ones and the carbon fiber for the higher cost ones. And is there a way to use it while it's flat, like for a table or something? (I'm thinking of hammock camping, where it's nice to have a table for your coffee, etc, but you're using the hammock itself as the chair.)

Badass. These guys are on the right track

Very cool! Carbon fiber is always awesome. Looks strong as heck. People who care about quality and durability will want this chair. If they can make it multi function, like make it a back support in your pack, add a bottle opener, add holes for weight reduction, it would be even better.

Freaking AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need one of those!

Regarding making it into a framed backpack, it may make more sense to give it some ability to turn it into an external frame. You could do that as some kinda attachment kit so that people could just use it as the seat or they could use it as a frame to carry whatever they want.

Well done fellas. Awesome idea 👍

I love support of innovation!

Well presented, gentlemen!

These are super neat and innovative

Cool. Pre-ordered :)

It's honestly game over once they integrate with a backpack frame

Great char

Cool design.

Yes 3 legs! they are geniuses. Best idea for uneven surfaces.

@samimurtomaki5534

Күн бұрын

Wait was not that just 2?

That's rad!

Cool idea!

amazing nice overland chair ...

The only way i see this gaining traction is if it utilizes the chair in other ways. A backpack frame was a solid suggestions.

@niq872

Күн бұрын

yea and it would make the cost more acceptable

@driewiel

17 сағат бұрын

Ground chair for in a small tent.

It’s a Viking chair. I legitimately thought of a backpacking use case like this last week. It’s a great idea

I hope they make a version that holds 200 lbs that is much lighter! Awesome idea!

@juansarmiento3857

2 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly. No need to use/pay for the extra materials for 300+lbs.

@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82

2 күн бұрын

I'm a giant so I hope they keep the big boy version lol

If it could be made to be the main backpacking frame I think you would get a lot more buy-in. Neat idea!!

Man sign me up. I need this! Takes forever to set up 4 of those types of chairs in the background...and takes up space in my campervan.

I recently watch a video from Luke on The Outdoor Gear Review of a OneTigris Tigerblade that takes care of the struggle to put the chair over the frame. Yes, it's very similar to the other chairs you have in your video, but it's also way less expensive than this chair on Amazon. As other have said, incorporate this one into the frame of a back pack and you've really got a winner.

Definitely a cool execution. Reach out to them and tell them to read the comments on this video cuz I see a lot of great suggestions that could all be implemented into a 2.0 model. Things like integrating it into a pack frame, shovel/paddle, a hole for use as a toilet and others could really make this thing take off

I’ve been making camp chairs like this for decades. I make them out of 2x12 lumber, but the design is basically the same. They are super comfy and easy to set up. Making out of carbon fiber is a good twist for backpacking.

of course one of the guys working on it was a boy scout! We’re always making wild ideas work. I would absolutely consider this chair if it made it onto an ultralight pack as a detachable frame. This could have SO many applications.

One of the most interesting gear videos I've seen

About a lifetime ago I bought a chair like this made of ebony wood when I was in a small village in Malawi, Africa. It was actually quite comfy to sit on it around the campfire at night. Being made of ebony it would be heavier than their carbon fibre model but it might have cost me $5, I can’t remember. It was fine for overlanding but I wouldn’t backpack with it. I’m sure people would buy it, always nice to show off a new gear.

Cool idea

I really like this idea, I will be following this product and excited to see it dialed in, and hopefully the cost comes down.

That's pretty cool!

Very cool chair design

Love the concept- especially the prospect of a backpack combo. Modified Alice pack is the first thing that comes to my mind, just for kicks. Anyway, great looking sturdy chair!

Love seeing innovative stuff!

When I saw the seat the first thing that came to mind was, Snow Shovel. Could come in handy for a Spring backcountry ski/split board session.

Very cool idea. I’m interested. Market fit will be tricky as the product is now. This is missing both the ultralight and budget market. If you can engineer in some other use cases, that would help. Cutouts across the seatback might appeal to those looking for ventilation and gear attachment points. Maybe a cutout for a bottle opener just for funsies.

seem it could hold a place in the overlanding world too, you could hook it up like recovery ramps.

😮 AWESOME

I'd buy one!

Such a cool design. I hope this company is able to sell a lot of these chairs.

omg dude I love your backyard... I want this when I get a home at some point in my life.

Awesome concept, added selling point; while a bit short, the seat could also be used as an emergency paddle during a kayak trip

I love that there are guys out there creating premium products that are worth the money.

I really like this idea. One can see where they might cut a few ounces. Of course, the pack frame idea jumps out you immediately. And the shovel. And the spare paddle. Also, a potential use as a splint for broken arm or leg. I am watching for further development.

I NEED ONE IN MY LIFE!!!