A replaceable battery is actually a HUGE pro for me. Think about it: in case of previous Flextail pumps, once the battery is dead, you have to wait until it's charged. Besides, the integrated battery will eventually degrade. In case of the new model you can just instantly swap the CR123 battery with another one. The absence of a USB port on the pump itself is not a big deal at all.

@DubuqueDude

10 ай бұрын

I use my x2 for motorcycle camping so I can charge my electronics while riding or from my Lithium solar power pack.

@XxCTONxX

10 ай бұрын

100% agree

@DennisMathias

10 ай бұрын

I thought about this and you may be right!

@EveryDayCharlie

10 ай бұрын

A bonus for me is that I already have these batteries for flashlights anyway. They last forever and what's it going to hurt to toss a 60 gram battery into your pack?

@randompasser-by3418

10 ай бұрын

@@EveryDayCharlie me too, I have a Fenix HM50R headlight which uses this type of batteries. By the way, they weigh only 19 grams

I can’t give up my light or the external charge. I’ve use that light more than I ever thought I would. Looks like a solid and light pump for those only wanting a pump. Thanks for the review!

i cannot believe that after all these years, flextail HASNT BEEN A SPONSOR OF THE CHANNEL. AT ALL!! hahah. i literally only bought one because dan recommended it. it's awesome and i use it for everything at camp, including clearing leaves/dirt off the table every morning

I think what I like the most about this pump is that you have a brand that is introducing a new product that addresses a different set of needs, instead of constantly updating the same product over and over with minute incremental improvements.

Very timely video! I was about to pull the trigger for 2 pumps. Now I will buy AND upgrade both at the same time! Thanks Dan, and Thanks Flextail!

Replacement batteries is actually a plus. Instead of aiming at that, they could use something like a 16340 lithium ion replaceable and rechargeable battery.

@meh6513

9 ай бұрын

Rechargeable AA or AAA batteries exist

Thank you for this video! Recently bought an Exped and I was going to pull the trigger on purchasing a pump earlier this morning, but held off for some odd reason. Come bedtime, this video pops up on my feed and the Flextail was already in my cart before the video ended. Appreciate all your videos!

Thanks for the heads up! Avid backpackers and travelers here. Love the ability to switch out nozzle types depending on which pad we use, the lightness and rechargeable battery. Battery would def be a deal breaker…there’s not reason to buy anything else! Cheers!

I hate it when this happens. I finally buy the X2 model for 5 backpack sets and they come up with something better. Unbelievable!

@DanBecker

10 ай бұрын

Been there! 😂

@jimizxztheorginal

10 ай бұрын

Hmm... so do I get the new one or get the old one when the discount prices hit?

@jamesterry5409

10 ай бұрын

I feel the same way 😂

@joni4632

10 ай бұрын

@@jimizxztheorginal new one. Holding the old one to the pad when you’re exhausted and the noise difference convinced me.

@gmarrese91

9 ай бұрын

@@joni4632completely agree. I fortunately just bought the old one. Just set up the Amazon return. Just a shame this won’t come til at least December. When they say November you know it’s gonna be at least a month later

Hey Dan good video. I’ve had a flextailgear tiny pump for at least 3 years. Probably longer. It works great. I just did a 6 night backpack trip with 3 additional nights of car camping and inflated my sleeping pad every night without recharging it. It is a earlier version and had to modify the nozzle base to keep it attached to the pump. It does have a charging port on the pump so don’t have to disassemble it, as well as the double click safety on switch but no light.

Thanks for including a demo of the gadget's features. It really helps to see it in action 🙂 thank you for sharing

Been waiting for one of these to come out the was a "next gen" from what is mostly on the market now; smaller and quieter. Done. Order placed, thanks for the head up Dan!!

Oh my god!! I never knew how much I need this!! Probably the most amazing camping gadget I've seen in a very long while!!

I have a older model flextal pump and like you had mentioned the little devil can turn on. To solve that problem for myself I put it in a lightweight plastic bottle with my pad attachment. Seems to have worked so far. Of course it adds more weight. I like the size of the new one! Don’t like that you have to take it apart to recharge. I’d certainly be afraid of loosing something 😂

I got the flextail lite. I like having the light on it and the external charge port is also nice. This has some nice features too. If I didn't already have one, I don't know which one I would opt for. Smaller size and lighter weight is also a plus. In a year or two, I bet they'll make one with a light and external charge but this size.

@davidivey8920

10 ай бұрын

Agreed I like my flex tail

I just 3D printed an adaptor for my Flextail pump (which I bought because of this channel) 4 days ago to solve the problem of having to hold it (just before watching this video). Glad to see they have real adaptors now.

Thanks for the excellent & useful content Dan. Well im sold! Light weight, rechargeable, quiet, adaptable & pad attach. Cant beat that!!! Will be ordering today!

Oh heck yeah!!!! I’m glad I waited.. ill pick up the new Flextail for sure! Thank you for the update and huge congrats on your sponsorship.. way to go 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 i look to your channel for gear recommendations.

This came across my feed this last week and went ahead and purchased. I don't mind losing the light in order to get better fitting nozzles that fit.

I dig it. To me, ultra light pumps to inflate pads are a great idea. I have the Thermarest pump and, although I like it, it’s not powerful enough to get a pad more than 2/3 full.

I tested the Zero Pump in the field this week after putting up a first impression review. For people like me who mostly do trips that are less than 5 days it'll be a great little pump. Like you said it's got plenty of juice to get through multiple pads. The fact that it stays on the valve (tested on TAR Winglock only) it is great compared to my original Tiny Pump X. Not sure if the X2 stays on or falls off TAR valves so I can't comment on that. I do see the lack of a USB charging port as being a compromise. I have enough electronics to charge that I don't need to hassle with taking a battery out vs just plugging it in. My Fenix HM50R uses the same CR123 and has a USB-C charging port so it must be possible to build a tiny unit with a port! Sure, you can swap the battery out in the field but how many people carry extras? More people carry battery banks. Again that is a design choice so depending on what you value/need this could be a great option for a lot of people, and you can get CR123 rechargeable batteries with a built in micro or USB-C port. Bit of a hassle to take it out and charge in the field though... At 2 oz on the dot the Zero pump only slightly heaver (0.4 oz) than my cut down TAR pump sack, and it was nice to just let my huge Xlite Max inflate while I was doing something else.

That's pretty cool. I really liked the new Thermarest pump for the fact it also deflates pads but I have a S2S etherlight xt extreme. The Flextail X2 was the ticket and I love it. In my case, the adapters stay put on the pad and I don't have to hold it but that would be a huge detractor for pads that it won't stay on. But for me it's the deflate feature that I really love. Especially on pads with insulation or memory foam, being able to vacuum them down makes rolling and packing them away so much easier. I don't think I'll be upgrading to this new pump but I love that they're innovating and pushing the envelope. Air pumps are worth their weight and thats a fact.

@bokehbohm

10 ай бұрын

this pump has a deflate setting as well, he just didn't go over it in this video.

Hey Dan, we are huge fans of your channel. We did our own little mod to the flex tail pump that allows it to lock into our big agnes sleeping pads. It works like a champ. Once I get back home from a business trip in Oregon. I will try to send you over some pictures. It is super simple and you would probably like it.

@emonty62

10 ай бұрын

please tell us! thxs!

Actually the Thermarest pump weights 2oz with batteries so they are about equal. The thermarest pump will inflate about 40 mattresses so it is still by far the efficiency leader. You can get adapters for most mattresses with it if you buy from Camp-Tek. That said, I think this is the first pump that does give the thermarest pump some serious competition. I still prefer the thermarest pump because of more inflates but I can see this being useful.

@petersilie2432

9 ай бұрын

Thank you! That Kind of objectivity was lacking from Dans haul.

Dan, Your reviews on the old Flextail pump showed it is very useful and I bought the old Flextail pump because of you (I've been very happy with it) Now I bought the new Flextail pump because of you (don't have it yet). You have earned your sponsorship.

@coreyshaw642

5 ай бұрын

Did you get the new flextail pump? where did you order? How long did it take to arrive?

That thing is pretty amazing. That's an absolute buy at a steal of a cost and I love the design, size, noise volume.

I don't know how many times I have almost lost the nozzle to my current flextail. It's my only complaint and this model solves that. Looks like a good upgrade. The only thing I would say is if you can fit the charger into the battery you can fit it into the device. It is one less thing flextail has to worry about but in my opinion they should reevaluate that decision.

Thanks Dan. After doing some sections of the PCT in August I decided a sleeping mat pump was a priority. I’ve just ordered (via your KZread link) and hopefully the pump will arrive before I do the Overland Track (Tasmania) in mid-November. Thank you for your great content!

@InfallibleDogbert

9 ай бұрын

Meh you'll be sleeping in huts or wooden platforms in borderline summer in Tassie... won't be any concern of moisture management or R value.

@benoloughlin1557

9 ай бұрын

@@InfallibleDogbert actually, I won’t be sleeping in a hut but in my tent. I think you maybe unfamiliar with the extreme and fickle weather in sub-alpine region of central and western Tasmania. Blizzards during high summer are not uncommon. Hypothermia is the no. 1 risk factor if coronial reports into the death of people in the National Park is anything to go by.

@InfallibleDogbert

9 ай бұрын

@@benoloughlin1557 Nope I've done the hike over a dozen times in winter

@benoloughlin1557

9 ай бұрын

@@InfallibleDogbert and I have been working as a guide in the national park for ten years and have been a visitor to the area for 30 years and I am very happy with my risk management thank you.

@InfallibleDogbert

9 ай бұрын

@@benoloughlin1557 I'm happy for you

I got one of these and I’m really happy with it. Using rechargeable AND non rechargeable batteries is a great feature for any tech. The nozzles aren’t 3D printed, they are soft silicone. It says which nozzle works with sea to summit pads, but their deflate port is not compatible… until I realised the pump nicely fits itself into the deflate hole.

Any time you have to take something apart into multiple pieces to charge it, you run the risk of losing or breaking parts. The old style is 2 oz. heavier but just having to plug it in and nothing more is a plus to me....and you have the light.

Darn, HAD to buy one. On my last camping trip I was desperate for having a pump. Very timely product launch and video.

i think this is very cool for those who want it. I've had no problem using the bags you blow into then push the air into the pads like nemo. I only inflate the pad about halfway personal preference

I have a gen1 from flextail (under it's former name) thru a crowd source project & been glad to see how they have been improving product over time. Once mine dies/rechargeable fails I'll upgrade lol

Perfect Timing on the video. I've been looking for a pump that supports my families 4 different brands of pads and all the ones I've seen have been to large or expensive. I'm picking one up now.

This one looks amazing! Having an extra fully charged battery makes it so that I don't have to recharge it during a 20+ day hike. Definitely going to upgrade from the orange one!

Thanks, Dan! I read about this little pump a couple days ago and was on the fence about backing it. You helped clarify a couple things. I'm going to wait. I LOVE that this new version is smaller and quieter! I would have guessed that this alone would have made me make a purchase. However, learning that you have to unscrew a couple things on the pump to get the battery and plug that in to recharge, to me, is Not a common sense design feature. I'm very responsible with my gear, but I know I would lose pieces, especially when the pieces are black. If the battery that comes with the charger goes bad, can you buy another battery that you directly plug into to charge? It would be nice if the pump and some LEDs to show how much charge was remaining. Regarding the light, my pump doesn't have one so I wouldn't miss it on this one. Also, my insulated pad is a Zenbivy... And I have no idea if one of those adapters would fit this pad. Even if I have to pay more, I'm going to wait and hope that this smaller pump eventually has, #1, an external charge port and if it will inflate my pad. It would also make more sense if it came in a brighter color. Despite it not currently meeting my needs, I still think it will be a great little pump!

Grabbed a couple of these recently. They’ll be in full effect during the Banff trip we just booked with you. See you in 2024!

I leave the x2 pump attached while pumping, no issues. Double function of in built light is crucial too.

Neat, though I have to say. I got the Tiny Pump X2 and there is a nozzle that I use with my Big Agnes RapideSL that lets me attach it and let it work without holding it myself. So that point depends on which mattress you have :)

I relate to this so much. I got a tiny blower but a variety of pads and other things all with different types of valves. I just went to the hardware and got a few sizes of clear tubes and cut some adapters.

I think I might have to upgrade. I have one of the non led versions and then bought a second led version because I wanted a backup pump and a light but now the battery in the led one won't hold a charge despite being less than 2yrs old and hardly used. I have a wide array of lanterns, flashlights and headlamps and while I car camp a lack of led isn't that bad. I like the ability to replace the battery.

Thank you Dan, there will be one going to Germany - already ordered

Never had one so I ordered mine last week, shipping to New Zealand- October. Would prefer a brighter colour, ability to charge directly to and from it & a light vs size reduction BUT the reduced noise was the WIN 🥇

@larryfolloway6335

10 ай бұрын

Add a few wraps of bright duct tape. It’ll be easy to see and you’ll have tape if you need.

I've been holding off buying a pump after buying my latest Thermarest pad because I was not able to find a pump that fit the 3 different styles of nozzles we have. This appears to solve that. Thanks for the video, I have one on order.

You are 100% responsible for me buying a tinypump. I use it camping and for inflatable pool toys. Literally, every friend who’s ever seen me use it has also purchased one. You are owed some commission Dan!

@shelleymurphy1966

9 ай бұрын

Me too! I use for my pool floatie.

Oh man, your videos convinced me to get the flextail, so I got the orange one right before PCT days, and now this one comes out?! I will miss the light BUT the not having to hold it in place feature would be a huge plus with my rapide wide pad! and the fact that they reduced the noise is awesome! By the way ...still loving my outdoor vitals gear! It was super cool to meet you in person!

Major upgrade to have the battery separate AND losing the light. The overall design and function all upgraded as well. That's a nobrainer purchase even with 3 others, just picked it up!

Great point re hands-free usage, kind of defeats the object of an electric pump if you can't do that. The quieter operation of the Zero is another big plus for me. Top review Cheers!

I really wish your channel had been around in my pre-internet days of hiking with my son's Scout troop. This pump would have been on my list of take-or-die items.

This is right up my alley since I was debating getting the Thermarest pump, although the poor reviews were a bit of a deterrent. This changes the game for me so I'm all in.

I have an Olight torch/headtorch which uses CR123, I have a Fenix CL09 mini lantern for the tent which uses CR123. Both have a Fenix CR123 which has a slot in the battery to plug in micro USB and recharge it. The battery in the lantern is a backup for the headtorch if I need it. Using this pump, I could either not take a battery for it and share one between this and the lantern, or it could be an extra backup battery for the other two devices. Ideal choice for me!

This is such a cool gadget - and a great (and honest) review, as always! I’m just never going to get one though. I’m 60 and an asthmatic but I hike 20-30mile days often enough that my lungs are in reasonable shape. After hiking all day I just use the “pump sacks 1.0” that I always carry with me 24/7- 20 deep, slow breaths and even a long wide pad is blown up. I take my time, I’m at camp, there’s no rush, and I can do it in 2 minutes while my dinner is rehydrating. Weighs nothing, costs nothing, takes up no space in my pack! I would highly recommend anyone to refer to their user manual and check this already available feature out!

Wow, can't wait to get one! I was just about to go and buy the old version but I'll wait now, thanks!

This is simply incredible. I cannot believe how small this is.

Dang you suckered me into getting one! This channel is like a few sites I hate visiting like “this is why I’m broke” and a few other sites. Thanks! Oh no, now I’m going to watch more. I have been looking for a device I can tether my phone to and communicate with others via text like the gotenna mesh

I have one of the older models and love it! But... what the older model allows me to do is suck air out as well. Can the new one do that or not? Obviously its not hard to get air out of a sleeping pad, but I really do like the feature to be able to get every bit out! Makes it super easy to fold the pad up afterwards.

@WildernessOffroad

10 ай бұрын

IT CAN! Haha i had to look into it, that makes me happy!💯

I love mine! I use it to inflate & deflate cycle my air mattress at home to get the humidty out. A simple slight modification made it so I can turn the batteries around to make the fan reverse.

@coreyshaw642

5 ай бұрын

where did you order it?

@SamSam-ke9zy

5 ай бұрын

@@coreyshaw642 amazon I think.

@coreyshaw642

5 ай бұрын

That was the first place I checked, it's not there sadly, I've found 2 places to purchase it, but trust pilot says that its a scam@@SamSam-ke9zy

Been using my flextail all week on one charge. Can't wait to check out the new one.

Awesome.... I had been debating whether to get the flextail pump for a long time. I did buy their mosquito repeller which is awesome. Glad I waited on the pump. Grabbing this one for sure

Incredible how they manage to get this thing even smaller and at the same time less noisy. For me the missing light is a big disadvantage. Also I own a 3d printer and printed the nozzle for the big Agnes pad so it clips in and stays attached without holding it. Is it possible to deflate with this pump ? That is also a nice feature to repack your sleeping pad.

Sold! Love my current flextail but if its lighter and I dont have to hold it on the pad while running, its worth the upgrade to me. Losing the light is....meh, I honestly haven't used the light as often as I expected.

I like the form factor, however, I am probably just going to stick with the original just because even though it is a side feature, I really do get a lot of use out of the LED light feature that makes it worth the two extra ounces for me.

@spyder8602

9 ай бұрын

100%.....i get a full 3 night's camp worth of light and two full fill ups on the air mattress on one charge...

@robertdconner

7 ай бұрын

No light is a dealbreaker. Not a fan of taking out the battery to recharge. I’ll also keep my original.

I just use a dry-bag manual pump. Even with a hole it still works. I don't like electronic/ mechanical pumps because there's too much that can go wrong with little possibility for repair in the field.

@billheckman5937

10 ай бұрын

Finally a sane comment.

I have the ´23 Thermarest neoair SP with the new valve, I have absolutely no problems blowing it up, using the "old" Flextail pump, I just use the soft adapter, fits fine without me holding it. Of course I to would like a new one for free, but the old one fits just fine, -its a bit over the top to state that it doesnt fit without holding it.

5:19 thanks, Dan, that was my biggest question.

This looks cool! No more exped little pillow handpump. Thanks

Just placed my order, can’t wait to start using it!

okay, instant bought. I have the old version, but my main problem with it is that it felt so clunky when you have to hold the attachment to the pad. I've only ever used the previous version while car camping. However, this version will come with me on my treks.

Purchased. Excited about this little unit.

I have the flextail 2 and it is easy to attach it to my thermarest and fill it hands free. I showed how in my Amazon review video. You attach an orange tip and put the small side of the rubber tip inside the orange tip. Then place the larger end of the rubber tip over the thermarest valve and let go of the pump. I’ve filled our klymit and exped pads hands free also. Saving 2 ounces might tempt me to purchase the new pump someday. But hands free is only an upgrade of having to use 1 tip instead of two tips.

Still waiting on mine to be shipped 😢

Thanks Dan, I just ordered one!

Thank you Dan. Flextail that is nice.

I bought a pump recently. Haven't used it yet, but looking forward to it.

definitely a must have. i have a different brand but same sort of thing and its like an incredibly smart tool to have compared to the old coleman pumps with D batteries

I melted my Therm a Rest trying to light wet firewood. Been using the previous Flextail but now I want the new one. Smaller, lighter, and quieter. I hear some company will be releasing a camp chair lighter than the Chair Zero. It’s adjustable and comes with a ground sheet that doubles as a carrying case too.

@EricFleming231

10 ай бұрын

use a bellows, you just blow. No batteries, and lighter

@MeOutside

10 ай бұрын

@@EricFleming231 ? You mean the pump sack? When you say bellows I’m thinking of the big accordion thing next to a fireplace. Pump sack works fine but not for starting a campfire.

@EricFleming231

9 ай бұрын

it's a metal straw that has varying sizes that fit within one another to make it longer and works great.@@MeOutside

This is great news, and one of these is going to replace a TAR pump. Thanks, Dan.

cant wait to get this it looks great and is very pratacle for on the go camping thank you for show caseing this it will make my next camping trap a great one

Thanks Dan for the heads up on this one. I purchased one just now. I have the original and like it a bunch. The quieter fan, lighter weight and no built in light is just what I’ve been looking for. Not to mention being able to connect to Thermarest’s new valve. This is a home run in my opinion.

I bought a Flextail pump thanks to your channel! Thank you. And now I need to buy the newer one 😂

One thing you failed to mention, is if the battery in the first pump, Tiny 2x, had a swapable battery. For some people, this could also make the ZERO pump much more favorable even though the battery must be removed to charge. you could carry a few extra batteries. Great video, great product...

@danbecker Flextail is not shipping their products. might be worth taking this video down unless they start shipping their gear. it's been 2 months now and i have not received anything from them, including a reply to many emails

@CDXRK

3 ай бұрын

Any updates? Did they ship it

It looks like a great pump, but owning two of the previous models, I'd wait. Using the older version, it can blow up three Thermarest Mondo King pads with more available. I've been using the original for a couple of years now and it's great.

I first starting using a pump when I hiked the Colorado Trail. I was worried about manually inflating a pad at 10,000 feet! Looks like I will need to upgrade - I never liked the idea of using a device that couldn't be recharged.

Dang! If it had the light, I'd buy today!!! But I so love my little light hanging in my tent!!! But still.... soooo tempting!

Seems like an awesome pump. I do like the ability to just change the battery. Hopefully the longevity of the zero is better than the other models. 🤔🤔

I’m a Flextail Max Pump 2 user, fills my sleeping pad then doubles as my tent light, plus it will serve as a backup battery charger in a pinch. Just under 7oz but I now leave my other tent lantern home so I’m saving weight & space. I can see the benefit of a ThermARest tiny inflator but I’m really sold on the multi-use Flextail. As for hands free, clips onto the valve inflation, I’m ok holding the Flextail to the valve, it inflates my 30x78 Q-Core in under a minute..

Hello 👋 Dan the Man, thank you for sharing this most informative video. Keep up your outstanding videos. Stay safe out there. 😊

This is the first time I watched a video and immediately went and bought it (or in this case, funded it!) I've bwen eyeing up the old ones for awhile, but they were always a little bulky and I didn't care about having a light on it. Price point was also too high for me. I used to have one of those Thermarest ones you mentioned (still do, actually), but it was bulky, noisy, batteries died quickly, and now it only fits the one old pad we don't use anymore. So ya, I've been hesitant. Good job. You sold me. 😅

i added a wrap or 2 of ducktape around the nozzle of the original pump and now its a tight fit that i can leave in my pad to fill up

Awesome review! You seem pretty…pumped!😂

Just bought it through your link. Hope you get a nice kickback from all of us. Thanx!

Just got to wait til November to get my mitts on mine. I was wondering about getting a pump. Sorted now thanks.

Thanks for the info. I am actually looking to get a pump and this came in just at the right time. The recharging 123 batt. Is the think made it a deal for me.

I love this little pump! I’ll have to get the updated version soon and give my old one to my buddy. This isn’t related to the air pump, but do you have any recent videos on device charging power banks? I’m looking for a lightweight one of course. If you have a video I haven’t found it

I'll definately have one of these by Spring. I currently have a cheaper version the original Flextail but that pump is LOUD and I really don't use the light in my tent.

This is awesome! I have the older model and will be upgrading when this one dies!

Purchased. Thank you.

I wish they'd release one with a lock function. When packing with the old one the lamp came on (doesn't make a noise) and had I not seen it it very easily could have been draining my pump battery for the drive to the trailhead and the initial hike out.

Super excited to get this in. Finally got it in. Battery was a super bust. Was able to turn pump on twice and the battery died. Would advise to stay away.

@DanBecker

5 ай бұрын

Strange! Mine works great and I have 2 of them. I have the nitecore battery that does not have a rechargeable USB-c port.

@danielchassell

5 ай бұрын

@@DanBecker My battery is the usb-c port version. Do you happen to have a link to that battery? Or is it the battery your's came with?