It's nice to see something other than foam used to protect the strike face. I appreciate when companies think outside the box.

Looks like the 4S17Ms are indeed a good option. John at Apex is a great guy

@Thetexan210

6 ай бұрын

He’s the fren you want !! John’s the man

@sneakyj5432

5 ай бұрын

Literally the greatest source of info ever. That’s to all the info he has out on Reddit and fb he made it a breeze to decide on the 4S17M

I bought these years ago for a very good price, $220 each. Glad to see the performance is up there.

I have these in small SAPI (8.75x11.75) multicurve n a Defense Mechanisms MEPC. Made homemade backers out of 5mm dense foam. Fits fine. Feels pretty good.

First time, most thorough review I have ever seen. You have a new sub now!

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!!

@strtkempo

10 ай бұрын

@@BuffRANGE I've never seen someone do so much for a review. Impressive 😁👍

I know they are similar but I would love you see you test the Highcom 4s16. They are one pound lighter and thinner then the 4s17m.

I wore these in Ukraine for 10 months. Solid plates. Lots of sweating, falling, hitting the ground.

@BuffRANGE

2 ай бұрын

Awesome !

10+ shots of 556 before it gave damn thats impressive!!

@BuffRANGE

8 ай бұрын

I once shot a 3+ tile array plate and it stopped like 25 rounds of M855A1

@shunkaha454

8 ай бұрын

thats absolutely insane!@@BuffRANGE

I was looking at armor from this brand yesterday and was looking on the channel to see if I had already tested them, apparently I was lucky the next day

I appreciate your details. I would love to see Highcom 4SSS2 level 4 if possible. Thank you!

@Miradi1776

4 ай бұрын

Just purchased some, so I’d like to see as well.

Just bought a set of these this morning from apex. Upgrading from my rma 1155mc's. Can't wait. Think ima try the Crye spc as well, I currently use the jpc

@xi-deadshot-ix5838

Күн бұрын

I’m probably gonna do the same with the agilite k-0 bundle from apex. How’d your jpc hold up? Heard the shoulder straps stretch over time and make the carrier droop with no fix.

Nice Video as always matt.

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

Right on buffman. 💪🏼

Love that 6:25 OP soundtrack right there. Nice suspense! :D

@BuffRANGE

5 ай бұрын

Hopefully it's short enough to be considered fair use :D

Could you do a video about plate carriers you recommend as well as which accessories to put on the carrier (chest mounted magazine carriers, etc.)? It gets extremely confusing trying to wade through all the different brands and trying to figure out what to order to build a proper armor setup. For example what sizes to order. Do you have a personal rig that you can share with us? Thanks.

@thesickening0169

3 ай бұрын

Check out T-Rex Arms and Spiritus Systems for plate carrier videos and set ups. I'm not necessarily saying to go with either of those brands, get what works for you. But both have good videos on plate carriers and how to set them up.

Very nice. Any chance you could test the new TSG ASP (active shooter protection) III+ plate? Supposed to stop m855a1 and plate is .5" thick and equivalent in weight to pe plates.

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

I just so happen to have those in my possession. We’ll get them tested hopefully soon.

Very good video! Any chance we can expect to see the 4S16 shooter’s cut tested? I’m skeptical given how light it is.

@BuffRANGE

9 ай бұрын

If Apex wants to work with me on it, or Highcom sure. It could be just they use a PE backer on it vs E-glass.

Let Highcom know we asked for them to send you a set of 4S16s and a helmet next. Thanks for the clear, concise video

Any chance you review the 3S9M???

Buffman up to date what is the best lvl 4 plates you have tested? Cost not a factor? Gonna have a lvl 3+ & 4 setup for work. This channel has been a blessing man.

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

If in terms of best performance Adept Colossus, XSAPI, RMa1192. Spartan Armor Ares. Stealth Armor Systems

@flextime6349

10 ай бұрын

@@BuffRANGE thank you brother. I replied to your comment you got back to me on from about 13 days ago. KZread loves to hide my comments and notifications, sorry!

5:50 "very long and hard" 😂 AND it goes DEEP into the target😮😂

hey man i need some guidance. im not sure if you remember but i bought those RMA rf2 plates just after your video praising them. They are light at 5.5 pounds yes, they stop 855a1 yes. But they are thicc like oatmeal. Im looking for an upgrade from these and was wondering what you would suggest? Just about everything i found while quickly peeking was either heavier than my current plates or exponentially more expensive, or in hescos case - both. TLDR: what is the next step up from the RMA 1092

@19anthro11

9 ай бұрын

Good question!

Uncle Rodger approves😂

My carrier has room for a 3a soft armor in front of the level4 plate and then the trauma pad. Can you test that option to see how different the results?

@BuffRANGE

8 ай бұрын

Soft armor has no benefit being placed in front of the plate. Rifle rounds don't care about IIIA and would treat it like paper. Use it behind the plate as a trauma pad and extra protection.

Are you planning on reviewing the 3S9M’s? Really interested in getting myself a set. Would like to see how they perform. Thanks!

@BuffRANGE

2 ай бұрын

Yes as soon as the weather gets nice..

Hey man. Im looking at this plate and an LTC 22605. What one do you think would be a better choice? The LTC would cost me a little bit more money.

@BuffRANGE

6 ай бұрын

In all honesty I can't say until I demo one. I have only tested one LTC product, and it was pretty decent, but it was an NIJ 04 plate. They build nice stuff, but are they really double the cost better than these?

Interesting result... maybe hypervelocity brings diminishing results... would be interesting to see what a 30-378wtby would do, given that it can send a 130gr bullet at over 4000 fps

Not bad performance considering the price, but they probably could do with better strikeface lamination. I think this is solid an entry level plate.

@Riname-K

10 ай бұрын

I think that’s just a limitation of the E-glass backing. It’s not as much of a consolidated sheet surface like a sheet of UHMWPE or even UD to laminate to. Not sure if I’m describing it right but hopefully you’ll know what I mean. It’s about in line with the RMA 1155 (video I watched for reference was recorded two years ago as of this comment) where the E-glass backing frays off during dissection. But yeah these are economy plates, only so much you can do while keeping the cost low and attractive.

@nomad155

10 ай бұрын

How many folks armed with AP...extremely rare case for self defense and even more rare to have armor and need it in a situation where you gotta use it.

@Riname-K

9 ай бұрын

@@nomad155 Level 4 basically futureproofs users from threats that overspecs level 3/3+ plates whether it's the projectile/caliber itself or higher velocity. Also plays a part in martial peparedness for foreign invasion or insurgency. Also budgeting. Level 4 plates are much cheaper and easier to enter into body armor than level 3 ceramic plates which can cost twice as much as common level 4 plates in the civilian market.

@nomad155

9 ай бұрын

@@Riname-K oh I'm not against getting lvl 4! It's just Op's wording on they could do better, which I understand, but when the worst threat you'll get is a handgun round, and that in it of itself is rare, the armor does the job perfectly I say

I’d love to see the 4SSS2s performance as well.

@BuffRANGE

27 күн бұрын

Sounds expensive

These look like they performed similar to the LAPG plates with a little less back face deformation.

@BuffRANGE

4 ай бұрын

I would say this is quite a bit above the LAPG at least in terms of durability and build quality. Threats stopped, they may be similar, but build quality on the Highcom is better.

Hope fully you can get some LTC lvl 4 and I won't have to send you mine

Will 9.5x12.5 medium sapiis fit in my M crye cpc?

@BuffRANGE

18 күн бұрын

Hmm, their specs make zero mention of plate size compatibility. Best to contact them for that info.

I need to visit my Midwest bro so we can pump iron and throw lead together (not on the same day, I cramp when I try shooting after working out).

Do you have any interest in 22 Creedmoor just curious

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

I do. I’ve thought about going to it for armor testing to push 5.56 pills faster but it seems it’s not produced in mass yet to make it affordable for me.

Test Igman 762x39mm supposedly its shoots 2550 FPS and 1776 Foot pounds thats pretty hot for 762x39mm

The one Piece music had me looking at my other tabs lol

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

You're the first person who noticed that I snuck that in there..

Cookies & calisthenics!!

Just realized that last comment “people are dumb lol”, could be taken wrong. Not the 5.7 guy asking, the people telling you what to use. So do your own research. Cheers 🍻.

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

Rightfully so. Many people harp on "overpenetration" and then think a round that barely makes it 9" in gel is going to work, when there's a lot of data out there that says you really need 12-18". Most definitely don't carry FMJ in pistol calibers, but to me it's funny that most think 5.7 will "overpenetrate"

5:23 I SPY A KITTY NAMED BOB

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@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

Yay!!!

I love cookies

Ayo the One Piece soundtrack lmao

@BuffRANGE

3 ай бұрын

Snuck it in there :D

It’s weird that both pens were in the same spot on 2 different plates …. Weird or just a coincidence?

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

Could be a coincidence.

@Riname-K

10 ай бұрын

Could be a coincidence or variation of raw materials from batch to batch from the one manufacturer that provides the ceramic cores.

Why dosent anyone just put a video out. Best level 4 ceramic, none, price, unlimited budget. I want plates but youtube is so chocked full of BS.

@BuffRANGE

Ай бұрын

That's highly subjective depending on your use case. This is the current list in terms of threats being able to be stopped: Adept Colossus US Military XSAPI RMA 1192 Militech RF3 Black Label Stealth Armor Systems Dragon Skin or Hexar Solid Spartan Armor Hercules Xtreme (formally Ares) Hesco 4800 US Military ESAPI RMA 1165 Hesco 4601 Tacticon TASPIV03 (Pending CPL Listing) Highcom 4S17M RMA 1155 Botach Battle Steel Level IV (Longfri Plate) LAPG Level IV or similar (foam edges, bare min budget recommendation)

i bought a set of the more expensive lvl 4 highcoms and theyre very nice. also stop m995!

@BuffRANGE

2 ай бұрын

Do they list that as a threat ?

@rickypickles2219

2 ай бұрын

@@BuffRANGE i dont believe so on their plates. the highcom 4S16s are their premier lvl 4s and distributors of their plates list it as a threat itll stop. Im also curious to see how those adept beyond lvl 4 plates are!

I guess there was strings attached for this one but not good ones for the plate lol

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

True. I should clarify that statement sometime, but to address, The actual manufacturer did not provide these plates nor did the reseller do so expecting that I stick any kind of script/protocol, or to achieve any kind of pre-determined outcome.

RoaR

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

Potatoes!

Bulletproof product supplier ， from raw silk to finished product,good quality and low price

@BuffRANGE

7 ай бұрын

Wait who are you? Lol

@user-jx1bg8hm2l

7 ай бұрын

r@@BuffRANGE Bulletproof product supplier

@BuffRANGE

7 ай бұрын

Okay and how can I help you ?

@user-jx1bg8hm2l

7 ай бұрын

We are a manufacturer of bulletproof products@@BuffRANGE

Big F

@BuffRANGE

9 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what that means? Did I do something wrong?

That apex guy is an admin in a fb group and he deletes comments when people recommend brands he doesn't sell.

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

He does? Do you have an example.

@iPervy

10 ай бұрын

apex is a dbag. He uses alt accounts on reddit to talk to himself to put down brands he doesn't dropship. Real scum bag.

@trechtzach8151

10 ай бұрын

He deletes comments that push Ace Link, AR500, etc.

@trechtzach8151

10 ай бұрын

@@iPervy those aren't alts, but people from his facebook. If they were alts he would have been permabanned for ban evasion. While he push the brands he push more, he doesn't put down Armorsource, Tencate or Ceradyne despite not having access to them, so I don't know where you get that from. It's literally just Hesco he doesn't push because of some emails he had with them.

@AndrewBennett36836

10 ай бұрын

You're a clown. The two groups he helps mod on Facebook he didn't even make. They have it written in the rules that recommending subpar gear is not allowed. The brands listed are literally uncertified Chinese armor and steel plates or brands with recorded and publicly verifiable quality control issues. Are you one of those shills who likes to shill trash? If so, yeah you do deserve to be removed. The morons in this community love to shit on the guy because he spreads good info and makes them look bad when they spew their bullshit.

Yo Brotherman, would you consider doing a vid on your lifting routine? I know your page is hyper focused, but I think a fitness video would do very well.

@BuffRANGE

10 ай бұрын

I don't have much of a routine. I follow an online trainer's program, but some weeks I don't have time to do what she's programmed. I end up doing a lot of Crossfit style workouts. I like deadlifting, squats, and presses. I also like picking up heavy sandbags, and stuff like that. I still occasionally go for runs. I probably would be a lot "bigger"/stronger if I focused more on progressive overloading more.