h3 is good and bad? | 6 Vital Chess Principles

Welcome to Episode 2 of this "Book Club" series where we are currently going through the book: Logical Chess - Move by Move by Irving Chernev
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  • @antarath517
    @antarath517Ай бұрын

    One of the big reasons you like your king on the opposite side of an attack is that you get to add pawns to your attack without degrading your king's defense structure.

  • @Embrace_Discomfort-99

    @Embrace_Discomfort-99

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah but it's very imbalance Cause Both side's do that and it's very hard to survive a flank

  • @antarath517

    @antarath517

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Embrace_Discomfort-99 Yep! Opposite castling games get very bloody. Usually best to do that when you've already got an attack going.

  • @wagle008
    @wagle008Ай бұрын

    It's great that questions from the previous video are being answered.

  • @basanoniem9280
    @basanoniem9280Ай бұрын

    This is a great concept. I hope you will make this a continuous series with lots of books

  • @pjdava
    @pjdavaАй бұрын

    Chess Vibes, This is fantastic! I subscribed right away!

  • @rawtrout3402

    @rawtrout3402

    Ай бұрын

    Nelson goes hard

  • @vitorrodriguez4278

    @vitorrodriguez4278

    Ай бұрын

    bot ?

  • @bosspoke
    @bosspokeАй бұрын

    Thanks alot for reviewing my comment and other people's comments as well on the followup video. It is much appreciated! You're a very good teacher of chess, and I couldn't do it any better myself :-)

  • @SeaPhoenix01
    @SeaPhoenix01Ай бұрын

    Hi Nelson, I remember reading Grau's books (an Argentinian master from XX century. Often considered the father of the competitive practise in this country) and in his book: "Tratado general de ajedrez" gives a method, a way of thinking of always asking "what category my opponent's move falls into?" Is a attack, a defensive move, a developing move or maybe it is a mistake. So when you stop and start thinking about it as a newbie or maybe even as a intermediate you grow stronger. In the last you made me remember that lesson. This series is highly informative and useful, thank you🎉

  • @davidjames149

    @davidjames149

    Ай бұрын

    very cool idea to categorize your opponents move

  • @kayakcobber524

    @kayakcobber524

    Ай бұрын

    I use SWOT for this Strength Weakness (my own moves) Opportunity Threat (opponents move) But guess we all have different methods to get some structure in this.

  • @NJDJ1986
    @NJDJ1986Ай бұрын

    I am loving the Logical Chess series so far!

  • @user-ej7sr3ow8b
    @user-ej7sr3ow8bАй бұрын

    I've watched a video by GM Igor Smirnov which also explained why we should not push the h-pawn too early: in a lot of cases the f-pawn could be pinned by a bishop or a queen, so if h-pawn is pushed, we will lose control of the g3/g6 square and opens opportunity for the opponent to attack

  • @bennuendo
    @bennuendoАй бұрын

    Love the series, and your explanation of each option at each step makes me a little smarter. Thx!

  • @andyclark8991
    @andyclark8991Ай бұрын

    Chess Vibes/Nelson You’re so cool and awesome. And that my friend is a massive massive understatement to you. The way you go into details with things is flippin awesome. Love your videos.

  • @SavageFlies
    @SavageFliesАй бұрын

    Love this series Nelson! I just got my book in the mail today and am about to go back and rewatch episode 1. Thank you for putting this one together!

  • @ambassador1022
    @ambassador1022Ай бұрын

    Great video! Really enjoying this bookclub series!

  • @stuarthayward4756
    @stuarthayward4756Ай бұрын

    Nelson: this format is fantastic. Being able to read the book first makes your video lesson more effective in terms of understanding and memory retention. Please do post 1 game per week, outstanding content. Your explanation regarding the beginner's worry about back rank mate wrt game 1 makes so much sense. I never realised how damaging an early h3 could be in front of a castled king. Thank-you from Johannesburg, South Africa.

  • @dalkapur
    @dalkapurАй бұрын

    So enjoying this. I have the book and can't resist to go through it. Already got to the 4th game, so I'm really happy you are doing these weekly.

  • @EricaPani-uh5vr
    @EricaPani-uh5vrАй бұрын

    I purchased the book and love it. Thank you. It also helps hearing you talk through the moves from your own understanding. Thanks again!

  • @davidwendell6471
    @davidwendell6471Ай бұрын

    Awesome series! Thanks so much

  • @elimparable1
    @elimparable1Ай бұрын

    What a great series!! I am excited to watch the whole thing. 😊

  • @jonathanyeru36
    @jonathanyeru36Ай бұрын

    Amazing! Looking forward to the next videos!

  • @ld77abt
    @ld77abtАй бұрын

    Nice 👍. Really appreciate that you decided to do this every week

  • @mattotubo
    @mattotuboАй бұрын

    Great Stuff Nelson! Thank you so much.

  • @loriwillcox6260
    @loriwillcox626013 күн бұрын

    Great series! I'm finding it very interesting and helpful. Thank you!

  • @orelas167
    @orelas167Ай бұрын

    That was a great explanation for why not the Queen first in Game 1. I wasn't expecting I would be able to understand it.

  • @southernrun9048
    @southernrun90482 күн бұрын

    Incredible job on these episodes. Just catching up but glad to have found the series on such an often recommended book.

  • @arthurestunperroquet3682
    @arthurestunperroquet3682Ай бұрын

    Great Series of chess teaching content you came up with, thank you very much!

  • @emc-nk8ks
    @emc-nk8ksАй бұрын

    You're awesome Nelson! Thanks for this series.

  • @mr.fawcett8108
    @mr.fawcett8108Ай бұрын

    This is so good dude. Thank you Nelson! You are great at explaining to the mid-range players

  • @user-kk2tp8dq3v
    @user-kk2tp8dq3vАй бұрын

    on game 1 instead of going back with the bishop on a7 you can take the pawn on a5, if they capture back with the rook, you take with the knight and if they give a check with the queen on a4 trying to win the knight back then you just jump back with the knight on c6, blocking th check and you have a rook and a pawn for a bishop

  • @rawtrout3402

    @rawtrout3402

    Ай бұрын

    can you explain in fortnite terms

  • @TheEnergizer94

    @TheEnergizer94

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@rawtrout3402 cap b rizzin

  • @vitorrodriguez4278

    @vitorrodriguez4278

    Ай бұрын

    @@rawtrout3402 travis scott event

  • @Anirudh_Nagula

    @Anirudh_Nagula

    Ай бұрын

    I understand its a bit complicated.But here's the solution: As you said after Bxa5, Rxa5, Nxa5 and Qa4 as you pointed Nc6 back after Nc6 you can go d5 I belive and if b5 counter attacking the Queen You can take en passant And if you take the pawn back with the bishop you lose the Rook on a8. And in that position of you went Bd7 for example you just take the knight and I think it should be quite winning. And incase of Nxe4 you take the knight if bxc6 Qxc6 and it's a fork. There may be several mistakes in this I am not sure if there any It will be good to know. I am not that good at chess just an intermediate player and this wasn't easy as I should calculate without actually making any moves visually Thankyou

  • @Anirudh_Nagula

    @Anirudh_Nagula

    Ай бұрын

    If you're not clear with anything else ask me

  • @jarvisjones3164
    @jarvisjones316420 күн бұрын

    It's just nice that I discovered the channel at a crucial point. Mind blowing 💯 don't think I'll miss any drop onwards.

  • @davidmirman6929
    @davidmirman6929Ай бұрын

    Enjoying the book and enjoying the video series, thank you!

  • @rife133
    @rife133Ай бұрын

    bro alwways dropping bangers fr good stuff keep it up

  • @navidrahmany299
    @navidrahmany29914 күн бұрын

    Thank you for going over these games so well. I am learning a lot.

  • @markosborn3079
    @markosborn307920 күн бұрын

    This is such a great series! Thanks

  • @hasanali948
    @hasanali948Ай бұрын

    This video was extremely helpful. Thanks.

  • @chriselcombe847
    @chriselcombe847Ай бұрын

    Loving this series. So glad youre going to one per week!

  • @MrAlanfalk73
    @MrAlanfalk73Ай бұрын

    One of the best chess videos I have seen. Thanks !

  • @john-glennrivers9591
    @john-glennrivers959127 күн бұрын

    These are great but a consistent video title, maybe “Logical Chess” with Game 1, Game 2, etc, would be very helpful in going through these as we go through the book. Having to start all your videos to find the next one.

  • @ThorstensComment
    @ThorstensCommentАй бұрын

    I once saw a nice video from Anish Giri about the italian game. He mentioned that the h3 move is quite helpful to guard g4. But because of attacks like in this video it MUST NOT be played until black castled king side.

  • @prithvisinghpanwar6609
    @prithvisinghpanwar6609Ай бұрын

    At last After Qh3 by black what if white plays g3?

  • @puzzician

    @puzzician

    Ай бұрын

    g3 is a very temporary, actually false, solution. The Queen is now safe and frees the rook for other ideas besides maintaining the pin. So then ...Rh8! and there is no longer an escape through f2: this time, when White tries f3 to make space for the King, g3 move has allowed the black Queen to communicate, through the **empty** g2, with the f2 escape route!

  • @TheEnergizer94
    @TheEnergizer94Ай бұрын

    It's scary putting your queen at capturing range of a pawn even if it's pinned. You're like "what if I didn't see some random bishop across the chessboard that can mess my plan up or what if I forgot the rules of chess"

  • @karlbe8414
    @karlbe8414Ай бұрын

    Outstanding explanations and nuances about an outstanding game; Chess!

  • @vshasvin6868
    @vshasvin6868Ай бұрын

    QUESTION : In principle 5 . By losing our pawns material gets imbalance , the king gets exposed due to this and opponent can take advantage of it if our attack do not last long this may result in bad position in many cases

  • @dannyorton2512
    @dannyorton2512Ай бұрын

    Might not be directly relatable, but today in the Hikaru Nakamura vs Vidit GujrathI game there was a h3 pawn move targeted in a similar way that lead to a black advantage

  • @garrettmckuin7294
    @garrettmckuin7294Ай бұрын

    What a prescient video, this came out right before the Hikaru-Vidit candidates game. Nice job Nelson!

  • @grahamdugan
    @grahamduganАй бұрын

    Just want you to know that you’re my son’s favorite.. he’s only 4 but he’s roughly 400 and so thanks for making content for chess players of all levels, it’s much appreciated!

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti4315Ай бұрын

    It was helpful to watch.🙂

  • @vmpire2864
    @vmpire2864Ай бұрын

    How to deal with a situation like in this position 19:03 you have black , you had castled on the kings side and white had pinned your knight with its dark bishop

  • @louvoodoo
    @louvoodooАй бұрын

    Great video!

  • @yyyy-uv3po
    @yyyy-uv3poАй бұрын

    Chess vibes delivering once again, this series will become a classic on YT!

  • @marioarcari7649
    @marioarcari764924 күн бұрын

    fantastic content thank you

  • @bobbrdar6521
    @bobbrdar6521Ай бұрын

    Weekly is a good change. Saw Ep. 1 on Saturday, ordered the book and caught up. Looking forward to Ep. 3. BTW played a game where my opponent was 0-0 and played an early h3 - no bueno for my opponent. After game analysis - 2 Brilliant moves with the attack on h3.

  • @Fudaddy336
    @Fudaddy336Күн бұрын

    Definitely learning some end game tips

  • @AGPLAYZ17
    @AGPLAYZ17Ай бұрын

    HI Nelson just wanted to ask that there was a better move in Game one when Direct Qg3 was played without sacrificing the bishop Black had Qf6 which could be more effective. Tho loving the series 😀🎉

  • @user-dj1lj6tn4l
    @user-dj1lj6tn4lАй бұрын

    Thank you🎉

  • @coloripple
    @colorippleАй бұрын

    this series made me subscribe after watching several videos of yours anyway

  • @siyabongamaqakaza9865
    @siyabongamaqakaza98654 күн бұрын

    Thank you bro🎉

  • @danielbillings1876
    @danielbillings1876Ай бұрын

    Thinking about a position from both the white and the black perspective is super helpful.

  • @bourbon_hound
    @bourbon_houndАй бұрын

    Glad you brought up Q-G3 on first game. I discarded the move because I saw white had Q-F3 defended by the knight. This basically forces blacks queen away with tempo or a trade. But I completely missed K-A1. On the second game, the move I was trying to explore with white was after he took the pawn with B-H3. Instead of retreating the dark square bishop I was trying to move the light square bishop to C3 check. King has to go to D1 and can’t move - didn’t see a mate but seemed better than retreating.

  • @user-ld1gc3xo6n
    @user-ld1gc3xo6nАй бұрын

    Thank you so much I've heard about the book but haven't had a chance to read it. Because of your "Book Club" series, finally, I am getting to know the classic.

  • @Horcauses
    @HorcausesАй бұрын

    Me: “watches this video halfway and thinks he turned into Magnus Carlson” “Plays 2 rapid games” “Loses both of them” “Comes back to watch the full video”

  • @judahhessner8650
    @judahhessner8650Ай бұрын

    Nelson you have said the Queen is worse than a combination of 3 peices but in games the queen can overpower them when they are tangled and stuck defending eachother especially when rooks are involved or its in the endgame with fewer pawns to defend the pieces. What would you recommend to untangle them.

  • @DudeWhoSaysDeez
    @DudeWhoSaysDeezАй бұрын

    Good tips and good video

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires3070Ай бұрын

    One thing to consider when castling queen-side, is that your a-pawn is instantly weak as it has no king or rook to defend it, whereas if you castle king-side, your king now protects the h-pawn (if it hasn’t been moved yet.) 😊

  • @Rohit-sp4iz
    @Rohit-sp4iz24 күн бұрын

    28:18 What if Rf2 to protect the check, then if Bxf2+ , Qxf2 protecting the checkmate

  • @yifansun2647
    @yifansun2647Ай бұрын

    20:26 Question: is there an advantage to moving the h pawn if there’s no bishop pinning the f pawn?

  • @tofubrains
    @tofubrainsАй бұрын

    Around 8:00 mark re: castling on which side. Is it also valid reason if white's minor pieces like the bishops and knight are in a better position to attack the king side? ie: dark squared bishop is blocked by the pawns on queenside.

  • @trendytrivia4318
    @trendytrivia4318Ай бұрын

    I had one question regarding to h3 pawn. In the opening when our knight is in f3 and the opponent pins our knight with bishop shall we attack the opponent's bishop with h3 or how do you deal in this situation without moving the h pawn.

  • @onred_
    @onred_Ай бұрын

    I struggle to know when it’s a good time to push my flanking pawns, and I don’t know why it’s so good. I know it’s guarded by the rook, but often times it just feels like he’s marching up for a pawn trade. What long term strategies should I be considering when I push my flank pawns?

  • @Citizen-pg8eu
    @Citizen-pg8eu24 күн бұрын

    Are there any significant differences between the 1957 release of Logical Chess and the version you are teaching from? Amazon can’t deliver the current one until sometime in May, but the 1957 version will be here tomorrow, at half the price. I always enjoy and learn from your lessons! I need to brush up on my chess now that my sons are beating me on a regular basis, so I am going back to the basics to see where I went wrong. And my grandson is rapidly getting good; I can’t have him beating me!!

  • @jsfearall

    @jsfearall

    17 күн бұрын

    There’s a good chance that the 1957 version uses descriptive notation, which is no problem if you’re comfortable with that.

  • @zachpiotrowicz647
    @zachpiotrowicz647Ай бұрын

    I think its a little harsh to say that h3, g3, h6 or g6 is a mistake in the opening. In some openings it is even a critical aspect of the opening. Or sometimes kicking an opponents piece that might be overextended to gain a tempo. (It can be a multi use move gaining a tempo on an opponents piece and Creating an escape square for the King down the road)

  • @borisslager1906
    @borisslager1906Ай бұрын

    Hope you still make those puzzles on puzzles island.

  • @prdoyle
    @prdoyle23 күн бұрын

    If you don't move Ra3, then how do you deal with the bishop pinning the knight? I've been trying to avoid Ra3 lately and finding the pin pretty hard to deal with.

  • @ribish6036
    @ribish6036Ай бұрын

    after your first video i stopped playing h3/h6 often , i try to not play it at all if possible , but what if there is a pin with the bishop? when can we move h3/h6 when there is an annoying bishop blocking an attack?

  • @MediaUncovered
    @MediaUncoveredАй бұрын

    What is a good method to disable pawn storms in whatever stage of the game?

  • @dennisashley7319
    @dennisashley7319Ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @ChessVibesOfficial

    @ChessVibesOfficial

    Ай бұрын

    You bet!

  • @davidjohannes2923
    @davidjohannes2923Ай бұрын

    What happens instead if rook blocks on the last example for white instead of queen takes bishop?

  • @sarrystylesofficial
    @sarrystylesofficialАй бұрын

    1 game per week is great I’d been waiting for this one

  • @danielandmariewalter
    @danielandmariewalterАй бұрын

    Question: wasn't it bad that black started the attack before finishing development? Ok king in the center not too bad because the position was closed by d5, but the other minor pieces?

  • @christopherheckman7957
    @christopherheckman7957Ай бұрын

    12:00 Knights can jump over pieces, so Principle 1 doesn't particularly apply to them. However, there is a variation for knights: Don't move your pawns where you want to put your knights! 12:47 This doesn't violate my previous comment, because White doesn't want to put his knight on c3. 13:59 Principle #3 from Game #1 was "These principles are great guideposts, but there are exceptions." 16:54 "A knight on the rim is grim; a knight in the corner is a go(r)ner." 27:58 And after g3, there's a mate in five. (NOW is the time for ... Rh8.)

  • @zoklev
    @zoklevАй бұрын

    isn't h3 in opening/middlegame sometimes good to stop black's pieces from going to g4?

  • @apurvkaushal6794
    @apurvkaushal6794Ай бұрын

    13:00 I feel like D5 is a great move after nf6 opening the bishop and if D4 you can just trade

  • @Alvorax
    @AlvoraxАй бұрын

    My copy of the book arriving in the post today so I can't study the game yet 😭

  • @coc235

    @coc235

    Ай бұрын

    You can just watch the video later

  • @entertainingvideos1351

    @entertainingvideos1351

    Ай бұрын

    Dl the pdf while you wait

  • @ragingflasker14
    @ragingflasker14Ай бұрын

    18:58 If white wanted to keep his E4 Pawn, why would you suggest Nbd2? I see people move their knights to D2 or E2 before developing their bishop. And in this case, it would even be difficult to fianchetto it either. What confuses me more is why people say these are good moves. You once said in your video “10 reasons you lose in chess”, you need to develop as quickly as possible to their best squares, and apart from your C3 pawn taking away the knight’s favorite developing square, you got your knight developed but for that,you made it hard for your bishop to develop. The more I think of it, if you play Nbd2 to defend a pawn, if you want to move your knight somewhere else, you cant move it without leaving the pawn unprotected unless you have another one.

  • @Llanchlo
    @LlanchloАй бұрын

    14:20 Why not play Qe7 first? Bb6 was because you expect white to go d4 but, if he plays a passive d3 (or something else), have you not wasted a tempo? Qe7 and Bb6 if d4 gets you the same result, but gives more options if d3. At this level I struggle to distinguish good prophylaxis from hope chess. For example (relevant to the is pawn h3 good issue) I tend to play Colle Zukertorte, and there is always a question of when h3 is good (depending on other B moves) to prevent an annoying Nb4 attacking the B on d3 in this Colle set up. The only obvious "No" is when B has played Nd7 so Nb4 is not a threat.

  • @thomaswdyoung

    @thomaswdyoung

    Ай бұрын

    This was my question too. It didn't end up costing black in the game because d4 happened, but it seems like it would've been better to develop instead, and keep Bb6 as a response to d4, rather than anticipating it.

  • @Llanchlo

    @Llanchlo

    Ай бұрын

    @@thomaswdyoungPerhaps he will comment next week - but I guess it is down to experience and recognising deeper strategic subteties. But it IS hard as a relative beginner. Another good example is when to push c4 (or c5 as black). I have lost count of the number of games where I push and the engine says 'bad move' but if I had done it on any of the previous 3 or 4 ( and somtimes then on several later moves) it would be have been excellent. I'm obviously missing something as in some cases I would clearly have a higher success rate if I tossed a coin rather than trying to work it out ...

  • @ShubhamSharma-cw3fd
    @ShubhamSharma-cw3fdАй бұрын

    Why not taking the h3 pawn with the bishop? As we did in earlier video with white pieces?

  • @rexroyulada6267
    @rexroyulada6267Ай бұрын

    28:30 what if white moves pawn to g3?

  • @micmatt7858
    @micmatt7858Ай бұрын

    Started playing chess in November I'm now 1050 elo thanks to your videos ❤

  • Ай бұрын

    7:30 why the long castle is the best move? I'd throw a check with a queen on g3 and continue with a fork Kxf2+. Are hidden threats here?

  • Ай бұрын

    Even better: bishop takes f2, forces rook to take back, then Qg3+, and checkmate next move.

  • @elperro3683
    @elperro3683Ай бұрын

    I have had the computer tell me many times to play h3 early …post game evaluation, of course.

  • @TheDigiWorld
    @TheDigiWorldАй бұрын

    After Qh3 what's the follow-up on g3? I do see Rxg3!! fxg3 Qxg3+ Qg2 Bxe3+ (or Kh1 Bxe3) that "looks" good but are these 2 pieces enough to win?

  • @puzzician

    @puzzician

    Ай бұрын

    I answered in a different thread, same question.

  • @technicalmaster-mind
    @technicalmaster-mindСағат бұрын

    Best ideal chess teacher

  • @hitoshifujimura6052
    @hitoshifujimura6052Ай бұрын

    I recognize Logical chess is one of the greatest books for beginners and intermediate players whom NM Lopez success to illustrate its qualities.

  • @sakthiprabhakar
    @sakthiprabhakar26 күн бұрын

    Good Idea Coach.

  • @byronwatkins2565
    @byronwatkins2565Ай бұрын

    At 11:00, so why do we want to play Ne5?

  • @nickvaleontis4657
    @nickvaleontis4657Ай бұрын

    I believe it would be useful to include the episode number in the title unless I am missing something.

  • @the.lone.sailor
    @the.lone.sailorАй бұрын

    suggestion- it would be helpful for beginners if you switched around the board so the white side is down.

  • @timm439
    @timm439Ай бұрын

    Principle 4: if they move the bishop, you can go c5. If en passant, the knight recaptures? Why isn’t that better than undeveloping and blocking the rook again?

  • @waddali9773
    @waddali9773Ай бұрын

    in 27:19 u could sacrifise the ROOOOOOOK and win the game . cus after kg2 u can Qa3 . i am 1200 elo btw

  • @JustGreendude45-vu4hg
    @JustGreendude45-vu4hgАй бұрын

    16:54 Also one move threats aren’t good unless if you have a good reason to. Yes you attack the bishop but your knight is a goner after white moves the bishop and plays b4!! Goes to show that some people play tempting moves that actually don’t work out in your favor.

  • @JustGreendude45-vu4hg

    @JustGreendude45-vu4hg

    Ай бұрын

    EG, Trapping a piece, have a clear followup.

  • @reubenmanzo2054
    @reubenmanzo2054Ай бұрын

    It looked like h3 was played to prevent Bg4, pinning the knight. To be honest, I would've done the same.

  • @NevarKanzaki
    @NevarKanzakiАй бұрын

    At 8:06, doesn't white have a strong continuation with Nxf2? This threatens Qh1# or Qg3# which seems to limit white's options a lot as there aren't that many ways to defend. There's no harassment with a sac on f7 because after Kf8, there's no continuation. This leaves white almost exclusively with Rxf2. Black plays Qg3+, forcing Kh1 since there's mate on f2 if they go to f1. So black picks up the rook on f2. This leaves black with rook and 3 pawns for 2 minor pieces. The position looks more comfortable for black. The attack isn't over by any means while I'm not really sure how white untangles quickly.