90% of Players Miss This Move (Ep. 8 - Logical Chess Move by Move)

📗 Tired of getting stuck in the middlegame? Here's my FREE “10 Middlegame Moves” guide to help you master the middlegame and CRUSH your next opponent: chessvibes.net/10-middlegame-...
Welcome to Episode 8 of this "Book Club" series where we are currently going through the book: Logical Chess - Move by Move by Irving Chernev
📙 Get The Book 📙
👉Amazon: amzn.to/4993xmd
If Amazon is sold out, you can also get it from House of Staunton below:
👉House of Staunton: tinyurl.com/yuc9y6vr
👉🏽 Say hello to 1500 ELO 📈
chessvibescourses.thinkific.c...
😎 Play Chess Here:
www.chess.com/membership?ref_...
👚 Merch: Chessvibes.shop
Links are affiliate links and help support the Chess Vibes channel via a commission.

Пікірлер: 125

  • @ChessVibesOfficial
    @ChessVibesOfficial21 күн бұрын

    📗 Tired of getting stuck in the middlegame? Here's my FREE “10 Middlegame Moves” guide to help you master the middlegame and CRUSH your next opponent: chessvibes.net/10-middlegame-moves/

  • @thecryptoecho

    @thecryptoecho

    19 күн бұрын

    Congrats

  • @michaeledwards2251

    @michaeledwards2251

    16 күн бұрын

    Your forcing me to remember the chess books I read 50 years ago. The Nd7 knight is a loose piece, the d3 Bishop is threatening both the king and knight. Once the king is protected, the knight is the next target. Rook c1 changed the semi-loose piece, d7 knight, into a loose piece by forcing the queen c7b8 away from the knight and king. Rook c1 was delayed until the c8 Bishop moved to b7 to attack the rook on e4. (The move rook e1e4 not only moved another piece against the king, it was a come on, tempting black to attack with the bishop, allowing the conversion of the d7 knight into a loose piece, setting up the king attack. )

  • @cawkecabdi7745
    @cawkecabdi774522 күн бұрын

    When I got this channel my chess rating increases from 870 to 1300 . Nelsi's explanation tactics is so beautiful. Thanks nelsi.

  • @ChristopherJamesEvans

    @ChristopherJamesEvans

    21 күн бұрын

    You made me sub 😁

  • @superfanofsuperman4217

    @superfanofsuperman4217

    17 күн бұрын

    Mine was 400 now it's 1550 in 5 months

  • @allannortje6440

    @allannortje6440

    9 күн бұрын

    My chess skills has gone up SUPER FAST too !

  • @locke_ytb
    @locke_ytb21 күн бұрын

    I like the format of "Hey, we have a good move in this position. Let's find out together at how we can arrive at the good move."

  • @TheRealChiults
    @TheRealChiults22 күн бұрын

    One thing about stockfish is that the "objectively" best move is actually calculated against "an stockfish opponent" (and assuming you are still stockfish in the next turn :D ). So many times you encounter a situation where a whole chain of odd moves are supposed to happen (as in the case Nelson explores answering the question) , being moves that not only me and you would not even consider, but also the top grandmasters (watch the candidates with classcial time control and see how they miss ideias compared to the engine). So the funny part is that, (also) objectively, by your real situation playing, since your are not playing stockfish, you actually shouldn't even care about those mad moves, so actually those moves are not actually the best moves from you against your opponent! It kinda also has to do with understanding the tool. We make better use of the tools when understanding the intended uses. For example, when being in material disadvantage you may want to go all in for a checkmate (counting on mistakes from your human opponent), instead of trickly finding a 8-move-forced perpetual-check to draw. If one likes math, CS, algorithms and stuff, go after some videos on the algorithm, because it's cool. Stockfish is a tool. If you can't defend as good as stockfish (I surely can't, as I'm still 950 rapid), understand that the pawn pushes are hard to defend later. But are of course sometimes necessary.

  • @SparkSovereign

    @SparkSovereign

    21 күн бұрын

    Yep. The best tool is the one you know how to use, and the best move is the one you know how to play. If the best move against stockfish requires you to also be stockfish to capitalize on it...play something else! As your rating improves, you'll want to pay more attention to the optimal counterplay possibilities, but "this works well vs natural feeling moves" isn't just for memorized opening traps. Database winrates, especially broken down by rating, are an exceptionally useful tool, and frequently more useful than stockfish.

  • @locke_ytb

    @locke_ytb

    21 күн бұрын

    Summary: Stockfish is a strong chess engine, but it sometimes suggests moves that are too difficult for humans to pull off in real games. It's better to use Stockfish as a tool to understand chess concepts, but remember to choose moves that work against your actual opponent, not a computer one.

  • @sandheepc.3209
    @sandheepc.320921 күн бұрын

    7:20 - That is not the only reason why e pawn was not taken by the knight. The h2 square was also protected by the knight at that time which was attacked by black bishop and queen. Although the h2 pawn being captured by black bishop is not too dangerous, yet it can really weaken the white king's position

  • @mikesuppa7706
    @mikesuppa770621 күн бұрын

    My copy is arriving at the end of May. I can’t wait to go through this course reading along! Thank you Nelson.

  • @sidorsky
    @sidorsky21 күн бұрын

    Based on Dan Heisman's recommendation, I bought this book long ago in the day when descriptive notation was used. I read a chapter or two, and then went on to something else. Going over this material with someone keeps me on track. Going over it with your helps me grasp the material. Thank you, man!

  • @Vein76
    @Vein7621 күн бұрын

    Loving this series. Thanks Nelson.

  • @sidaliamimour6088
    @sidaliamimour608817 күн бұрын

    Very instructif, thank you

  • @ishanr8697
    @ishanr869717 күн бұрын

    Extremely instructive, you earned my subscription.

  • @abdallahtarek7003
    @abdallahtarek700321 күн бұрын

    great episoide as usual thx for your efforts

  • @ronaldkonings8117
    @ronaldkonings811718 күн бұрын

    Reading the book, but your explanations make it even more easy to follow👍🏻👍🏻

  • @user-dd2fe5lg9z
    @user-dd2fe5lg9z16 күн бұрын

    Best chess series ive seen. Thanks Nelson

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti431521 күн бұрын

    That lesson was helpful.😎

  • @edsanjenis9416
    @edsanjenis94166 күн бұрын

    The best book on chess , Logical Chess Move by Move; I was 1162 uscf went to 1800 uscf in year and the half.

  • @GeorgeSmyth
    @GeorgeSmyth21 күн бұрын

    I've been playing the Colle-Zukertort for a little while now and I can attest to its attacking power. I am normally a slow, positional player, but the CZ just opens up so many possibilities that it has somewhat changed my style into a more attacking player. Absolutely, give it a try, it is super-simple to learn.

  • @Peterio1511
    @Peterio151113 күн бұрын

    Stunning!

  • @andyclark8991
    @andyclark899121 күн бұрын

    Awesome video

  • @joastips7825
    @joastips78254 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @AndyDavisTechnicalDiving
    @AndyDavisTechnicalDiving19 күн бұрын

    I started off as a player using the Colle-Zuckertort (Colle with fiancheto dark bishop). It was recommended on a Siliman video class I watched. Far less popular than the London with beginners, but it's really effective and very simple to play.

  • @to_HANDLE
    @to_HANDLE21 күн бұрын

    I like these series.

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires307021 күн бұрын

    Hi Nelson. Some comments/questions. 1) A beginner may wonder why white castled, especially if they’ve heard the saying, “don’t castle into an enemy attack” and they notice the bishop on c6 eyeing the pawn on h2. Especially if black moves the queen to c7 (as we saw in the game.) Did white have a better move here than castle kingside? 2) What if black went Re8 instead of Qc7? Would e4 still be a good move for white, or should white continue preparation for e4?

  • @RadishAcceptable
    @RadishAcceptable21 күн бұрын

    Jobava London has some similar ideas where you quickly transition from a passive defensive looking position into a tactics heavy attacking game. Definitely give it a glance after having fun with the collie.

  • @lactis3115
    @lactis311521 күн бұрын

    Thanks I am learning

  • @adenmartin4864
    @adenmartin486421 күн бұрын

    you definitely should try the colle system sometime, it's such a nice yet underrated opening!

  • @ArjanD78
    @ArjanD7821 күн бұрын

    At 26:13 you said: "and grandmasters see it too" How are they able to see it? -Do they calculate it all the way through? -Do they see our strategically in stead of tactically? -Is it experience? Have they seen it before? Thanks, great series

  • @fantomghost6213
    @fantomghost621316 күн бұрын

    Just did the Colle system after watching this and blitzed them. Thanks!

  • @shadow234LOL
    @shadow234LOL20 күн бұрын

    I actually found Bb5 on my own!!! It might be a bit stupid, but I'm a bit proud of myself because I actually found it pretty fast as well, and yes just like you said, it's just such a logical move!!! Great video as always, Nelson! I'm also considering playing the Colle system now xD

  • @user-kk2tp8dq3v
    @user-kk2tp8dq3v21 күн бұрын

    14:09 what if instead of 15. ...g6 black has played 15. ...f5?

  • @sidorsky
    @sidorsky21 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @jenniferrinebarger3962
    @jenniferrinebarger396218 күн бұрын

    I ordered.the book from Australia to do homework for your classes but it is delayed arriving from Amazon by carrier Royal Mail but these are problems I have to learn about in chess right now so thanks.

  • @edilpoulina1870
    @edilpoulina187021 күн бұрын

    Hi Nelson, how do I order the book?

  • @anthonyragan2696
    @anthonyragan269621 күн бұрын

    I'm really enjoying this series, and Logical Chess is a great book to study. I think you'd enjoy the Colle and its cousin, the Colle-Zukertort. Both are great for players who like to attack. Colle's own games contain some wonderful attacks.

  • @liamsun2543
    @liamsun254321 күн бұрын

    12:38 I think it's worth mentioning that after taking the queen, if black continues Bxf3, white can play Qc2, Bxc7 Qxc7 and black's knight and bishop are both hanging. Otherwise it's not a bad trade for black.

  • @SixStringStrumming
    @SixStringStrumming21 күн бұрын

    Yes. I want to play the Colle now to change things up and because it seems like a pretty simple opening to memorize

  • @MrKaktusFilm
    @MrKaktusFilm21 күн бұрын

    Hey Nelson, i have a question. It's not related to the video but I asked myself whether it's useful to play some chess games very defensive in order to get better at dealing with attacks from the opponent. I know that it's often better to play offensive if you have the possibility, but if you don't maybe it's better to be prepared. I would love to hear your thoughts Ps: very nice videos

  • @shadeburst

    @shadeburst

    21 күн бұрын

    I agree that it is always very important to look out for opponent's counter-attacks! When you have successfully moved your pieces north in range of the opponent king and now you have no way to defend your king!

  • @dyukonsuku2335
    @dyukonsuku233520 күн бұрын

    I was stuck at 1400 for a while. This serious moved me to 1600

  • @IsaacDeJong
    @IsaacDeJong20 күн бұрын

    Just an observation. After Bc5 attacking the knight it was the isolated pawn helping preven that knight from having a get away square. Not to suggest that white planned that, but it makes the move that much more interesting.

  • @911Audits
    @911Audits18 күн бұрын

    any long range piece can also attack a pawn or knight without getting attacked back. bishops can attack rooks without reciprocation and vice versa. the whole name of the game is number of attackers vs number of defenders for any given square and the strategic adavntage of specific square occupancy. im a year and a half into chess and i realized that

  • @SomaChatterjee-kd6hd
    @SomaChatterjee-kd6hd21 күн бұрын

    16:15 but I think nelson, it will be better to play Qa4 instead Bb5 cause we want that bishop on that diagonal to pressure the h7 and g6 pawn ...but the queen isn't doing anything... and most importantly the knight can not be defended or move to safety and can't play f6 which black can against Bb5...so it doesn't matter if we attack that with the queen... So isn't Qa4 is better?

  • @RayWall
    @RayWall21 күн бұрын

    Nelson you are the goat

  • @raymohyde422
    @raymohyde42215 күн бұрын

    Illuminating! My eyes got big.

  • @payeurn
    @payeurn21 күн бұрын

    At 17:28 , instead of queen to e8 I was thinking pawn to f6. Would that have been better?

  • @julian7306
    @julian730621 күн бұрын

    lovely video wow

  • @chelovek10117
    @chelovek1011721 күн бұрын

    15:10 isn't Qa4 also working? Like I think about the queen first when attacking, and I don't see the way for black to defend the knight without losing a rook for bishop exchange

  • @SparkSovereign

    @SparkSovereign

    21 күн бұрын

    That was what I saw too. It also gives you a way to get the queen over to the kingside attack a move or two later without having to trade off your knight that's in the way.

  • @austinlance4404
    @austinlance440421 күн бұрын

    My elo is pretty low but I got my first 94% accuracy in a 20+ turn game. All thanks to you!

  • @GODCOR
    @GODCOR22 күн бұрын

    yea i think i am liking the collie actually. my question is does it respond well with whatever black plays? also another question is, at 17:29 when black played Qe8 blocking in the rook, could we have just gone Bh6 and just be happy that we will win material and the game will go on?

  • @johnb6723

    @johnb6723

    21 күн бұрын

    Probably as well as the collie dog can marshal sheep around.

  • @shriduttkothari
    @shriduttkothari18 күн бұрын

    At 17.22, why don't black play pawn to f6 instead of playing queen to e8 ?

  • @teacherlee3527
    @teacherlee35278 күн бұрын

    Ive heard that you can't play the Colle system against KID, which has put me off ever studying it properly. Is this true?

  • @nischalpavan1150
    @nischalpavan115021 күн бұрын

    At 17:57 why not bf6 and qd2 threatening mate in a couple of moves

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires307021 күн бұрын

    (@ 7:15 ) Another reason you want to move cxd4 is that Nxd4? blunders a pawn; Bxh2+ and white doesn’t have time to trap the bishop with g3, white moves the king, then black just pulls the bishop back to d6 and white now has an irreparable hole in his kingside pawns! 😮

  • @philmacdonald1435
    @philmacdonald14353 күн бұрын

    lmao i paused plan out an attack "the move is bishop B5".... not even close to what i was thinking lol!

  • @DanielGreis1
    @DanielGreis121 күн бұрын

    18:16 Why don’t we play Bh6, threatening the rook which cannot move first? Being up an exchange and simply going to an Endgame up material seems less risky than continuing the attack and possibly blundering along the way

  • @RD-uk6wt
    @RD-uk6wt22 күн бұрын

    tip 11: if Stockfish lifts the roock, u are lost.

  • @user-ej7sr3ow8b

    @user-ej7sr3ow8b

    21 күн бұрын

    Tip 12: If you are playing stockfish, you are lost. It's just a matter of how many moves it takes to finish

  • @RD-uk6wt

    @RD-uk6wt

    21 күн бұрын

    @@user-ej7sr3ow8b humor isnt ur strenght, i guess.

  • @locke_ytb

    @locke_ytb

    21 күн бұрын

    @@RD-uk6wt Relax, your spelling is not better. Deflate your ego and improve your empathy, mate. (sigh...)

  • @RD-uk6wt

    @RD-uk6wt

    21 күн бұрын

    @@locke_ytb english isnt my main language. so relax, dude, relax.

  • @hirepikepower36

    @hirepikepower36

    21 күн бұрын

    M56

  • @vincentpeer5188
    @vincentpeer518821 күн бұрын

    Howdy! Love the videos. And, I know you don’t want to shorten or spoil them. But when you say, “white’s gearing up for an attack,” it’d be so much more instructive and helpful if you’d just go ahead and draw some arrows to show that right away. It’s much harder to connect those ideas when I have to go back and watch it twice to understand what you were talking about in the first place.

  • @akshaysamel8972
    @akshaysamel897220 күн бұрын

    This series helped me a lot to win against them.

  • @savesnine
    @savesnine21 күн бұрын

    Would you still recommend the Colle System over the London System for beginners? Your argument seems so compelling but I feel like if this was the case, all of YT chess would be pushing Colle over London. They're both pretty standard fail-safe systems (vs theory-based openings). They're both quite similar. So why isn't it more popular? What are the weaknesses of the Colle?

  • @shadeburst

    @shadeburst

    21 күн бұрын

    JL is pretty bulletproof for beginners. Colle looks strong for players with lots of confidence in their tactical ability!

  • @s--cn8ee

    @s--cn8ee

    20 күн бұрын

    Although they look similar, there is a difference in purpose. When the London System is promoted to beginners, a solid, simplified version of positional chess is promoted. Just make sure you defend everything, wait for your opponent to make huge mistakes, exploit them, then trade everything and go to the endgame. An easy plan to implement. While the Colle system revolves around playing complex tactical positions where you have the initiative, and in many cases, such as aggressive chess openings, you will find yourself playing down the exchange, and you have to be careful not to miss your opponent's counter-plays and tactics in order not to lose, which is difficult for beginners.

  • @modousengzy6258
    @modousengzy625821 күн бұрын

    Can you help me am still stuck at 600 elo are there any tips you can recommend for us low rank player's

  • @alimollahosseini7838
    @alimollahosseini783822 күн бұрын

    Why white didn't capture the night and didn't go with stockfish line

  • @Chomta
    @Chomta20 күн бұрын

    Nelson! We need ponziani part 2 I like this opening

  • @blackevra
    @blackevra20 күн бұрын

    dosnt knight can attack back?

  • @0lebol
    @0lebol18 күн бұрын

    21:38 King could technically go h7 but then Qxf7 is mate so it doesn't matter much

  • @user-hb4le4ck3r
    @user-hb4le4ck3r21 күн бұрын

    After watching Nelson I reached 1200 in 2 months from 600

  • @Kennythepudding
    @Kennythepudding22 күн бұрын

    12:38 when they take your rook and you take the queen, you lose the other rook from the bishop. We are losing 2 major pieces for the queen. Should we be worried about that? 2 rooks are 10 points, a queen is worth 9 points.

  • @SparkSovereign

    @SparkSovereign

    21 күн бұрын

    You get their bishop too (with tempo, even); it's 12 for 10. Even without that, it might be worth considering, because 5 of the 10 was a piece that wasn't really contributing much to your attack and their queen can much more easily disrupt your attack; going down a point of material to help your attack is usually worth it if you aren't in danger of running out of gas.

  • @shooz4unme
    @shooz4unme9 күн бұрын

    I can’t find the playlist for this series.

  • @nataliazachariadou5655
    @nataliazachariadou565519 күн бұрын

    So is fianchettoing a bad move, because our opponent can trade bishops and we will have a weakness?

  • @stefanweidner1192
    @stefanweidner119213 күн бұрын

    The knight is not the only one who can attack without being attacked back

  • @salemtv5808
    @salemtv580815 күн бұрын

    guys did anyone found the playlist i can’t find it btw this is by far the best coverage of the book

  • @themddream7474

    @themddream7474

    2 күн бұрын

    I think he stopped after 10 games

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti431521 күн бұрын

    14:14 What if we take the h Pawn quickly? Isn't the other move slow that's played in the game slow?

  • @Anonymousgorilla607

    @Anonymousgorilla607

    21 күн бұрын

    I think it’s because bishop to f4 would fork the rooks. And white can’t do anything to stop the queen coming in so it’s not slow

  • @farouqbaiti4315

    @farouqbaiti4315

    21 күн бұрын

    I am not sure! Let him maybe answer that. Right?!

  • @Anonymousgorilla607

    @Anonymousgorilla607

    21 күн бұрын

    @@farouqbaiti4315 he’s of course 100 times better than I am, but he doesn’t get to every question so I thought I’d try and give my thoughts

  • @farouqbaiti4315

    @farouqbaiti4315

    20 күн бұрын

    Good point though.🙂

  • @krishnaprabhakar526
    @krishnaprabhakar52621 күн бұрын

    Recently Wei Yi played Colle system

  • @nelsonlopez1228
    @nelsonlopez122819 күн бұрын

    I might play the colley!

  • @williame4175
    @williame417521 күн бұрын

    Colle speedrun!

  • @lisandrezfashionsug2362
    @lisandrezfashionsug236220 күн бұрын

    I've liked the colle

  • @christianfrost8660
    @christianfrost866022 күн бұрын

    21:23 what if Black instead plays Rxh6? I think all roads lead to checkmate but if Black hasn't resigned they have to play something.

  • @nuevageneracionba

    @nuevageneracionba

    21 күн бұрын

    Queen takes rook, forcing the king to g8, slide white rook to g4 for checkmate

  • @enderyu

    @enderyu

    21 күн бұрын

    It is an intuitively bad move, sacrificing your only defensive piece into the Queen+Rook battery is like a death sentence

  • @christianfrost8660

    @christianfrost8660

    21 күн бұрын

    @@enderyu Like I said I think that all roads lead to checkmate may as well sacrifice to hold on one more move.

  • @arthurrtang9670
    @arthurrtang967021 күн бұрын

    I actually quite like the Colle System.

  • @akshaysamel8972
    @akshaysamel897220 күн бұрын

    I played often good with knowledgeable opponents who know how to play chess and loose against those who don't even know how to play.

  • @19KRIZZ91
    @19KRIZZ9121 күн бұрын

    Why not instead of cxd4 just play e5 and fork the bishop and the knight?

  • @alimollahosseini7838
    @alimollahosseini783822 күн бұрын

    The stockfish line is confusing

  • @user-kg4or7so1t
    @user-kg4or7so1t18 күн бұрын

    👌

  • @Rad-mm5cs
    @Rad-mm5cs21 күн бұрын

    yeah, go Colle System

  • @charlesvanderhoog7056
    @charlesvanderhoog705613 күн бұрын

    Why didn't Black play F6 when it could?

  • @spd-kv6sd
    @spd-kv6sd22 күн бұрын

    Are all the games in this book featuring moves of pawns in front of the King? It seems to get boring seeing the same thing over and over again. One was forced to move a pawn in front of their King or willingly moved it and lost the game. As for the game, the critical mistake was Nxe4 for Black. Furthermore, I always play c5 on move 3 in order to have my bishop not blocked by the pawn, exchange on d4 and then we either have an exchange Caro-Kann or an open c-file structure that I can take control of first with the a rook. Ever since I learned the minority attack I'm yet to lose a game against London or Colle. Even though I'm in the 1600s and most players at this level don't really understand these plans. And why did the black knights need to stay on d7 and f6? They are Black's only defense. Such an exchange actually favours White. The knight on f6 should always be able to defend against the isolated d pawn, while covering the Kingside. The one on d7 can't go to c5 yet, but defends the one on d7 and when both are on the board you can get away with something like Bb7 after b6. Even though a6 and b5 are better, because you want to counter on the Queenside in an IQP position.

  • @jamesdarcy3902
    @jamesdarcy390213 күн бұрын

    If black goes for a Kings Indian setup?

  • @alimollahosseini7838
    @alimollahosseini783822 күн бұрын

    Why not play bf6

  • @aaronshebloski

    @aaronshebloski

    21 күн бұрын

    knight just takes

  • @mattgiguere5638
    @mattgiguere563815 күн бұрын

    Referral? COLLIE😮

  • @fer447
    @fer44710 күн бұрын

    get rid of the knight so I can play Bf3 but never get to actually play Bf3, and this is "logical" chess 🤣 I mean I totally get it Bf3 was a nice plan that never actually became the best thing to play because of how the position developed, I just wanted to make the sarcastic point

  • @alimollahosseini7838
    @alimollahosseini783822 күн бұрын

    What about black play f6 what is happening?

  • @isaacmucheru4059
    @isaacmucheru405920 күн бұрын

    Play the kali

  • @younggabriel
    @younggabriel21 күн бұрын

    Let’s goo

  • @user-kg4or7so1t
    @user-kg4or7so1t18 күн бұрын

    Colle😂🐕

  • @11harnnarongpangkadara92
    @11harnnarongpangkadara9222 күн бұрын

    yooooo

  • @Cladman3001
    @Cladman30018 күн бұрын

    you waste too much time when the objective is to get a checkmate asap

  • @Cladman3001
    @Cladman30018 күн бұрын

    you show wasted moves you must move with an attack when possible

  • @Cladman3001
    @Cladman30018 күн бұрын

    wasted move

  • @Cladman3001
    @Cladman30018 күн бұрын

    you talk too much about nothing.