I do love ridiculously aggressive sacrifices, so I guess I'm the exact demographic for this move.

There is another criterion that you didn't specify, but it came up twice in your analysis. That is: if you sac, can your opponent's Queen aid in defending her King, especially by directly opposing or interposing with your Queen? The threatened exchange of Queens will both neutralize most attacks and exposes the material disadvantage caused by the sac.

On this topic I highly recommand to read Vukovic's book "The Art of Attack in Chess". I remember in particular that he gives a list of 4 criterias for greek gifts which he considers that usually the sacrifice is correct if you have at least 3 of these criterias fulfilled. I think one fo them was "is the center blocked?" (not really the case here, although it does become blocked after acceptation of the second sacrifice from the knight) and another one was "is there no black piece able to come control h7 in one move?" (also not the case here as potentially the Bc8 can come to f5). I forgot the two other criteria, I think one of them was having a Rh1/ph4 for potential h file opening (read that book almost 30 years ago), but the whole book was a little jewel for attacking players and with very good practical advices, definitely worth reading and studying.

I totally agree that black will probably do something in the next three moves 😂

@futurereflections4097

2 ай бұрын

I would have taken that pawn with my queen and blundered it thinking I won a mating net

bro's trying to become tal

@GrimRplayZzYT

2 ай бұрын

So true

@vermeirenniels3464

2 ай бұрын

I'm trying to become tal but I only got the smoking part 😢

@scriptself6092

2 ай бұрын

​@@vermeirenniels3464bro my journey hasn't even began then😭

@mrrandom347

2 ай бұрын

​@@vermeirenniels3464 🥲

@GrimRplayZzYT

2 ай бұрын

@@vermeirenniels3464 💀

Broski made a whole video trying to justify his blunder 💀

They was a great lesson. Thanks a lot Nelson!

I don't like using strategies that rely on my opponent to make mistakes.

@R_frozen

Ай бұрын

It depends on rank and time format. Playing cheesy moves in classical is a bad idea, but in bullet even 3. Bh6 might be a good trap against indian defence premove

2:32 him not talking en passant hurts me

Your videos are exactly what I be looking for. Thanks

Thanks Teacher Nelson 🤘👍

Love ur vids so much

0:33 to be honest nelson, I was playing an international chess tournament and I sacrifice my bishop but stockfish says it was a blunder, good thing my opponent didn't take advantage of my blunder because he was so stressed about that sacrifice and he thinks for a while but eventually in the end I win in end game

Great video and tutorial.

I feel like if you sack the bishop and the knight in this position, no one under 1500 will lose as black

You make great videos. Really good explanations. Many thanks for your time.

Feels you concentrate quite a lot on "why am I right" and avoid all the "why am I wrong?" Sure if your oponents makes all the bad moves that allow you to capitalize on your "blunder", you win. But realistically, you are just hoping for them to blunder a few times in a row.

In the middle of that sequence, the move I would have made was Ne6, forking the queen and the rook. And losing my knight to the bishop that was invisible to me for some reason.

Nelsi, you know that I remain one of your oldest ( in 2 ways) and greatest supporters, but this seems like poor calculation and hope chess,

@toaster4693

2 ай бұрын

As a beginner, this tactic often works for me. I'm aware if I get better this style of play will no longer work.

@astroadhds9407

Ай бұрын

I agree, but playing for chances is fine. I've played risky sacrifices in otb and managed to win.

This is one of my favorite chess channels thanks! :)

2:33 en passant is a playable move and it was just like how said nelson if black takes the pawn then theres a discover check and white will win. Even though I'm just 1500 I can analyze it because of what I just learned to stockfishes game

Excellent video. It’s great to hear you break down your process, what you noticed and why you chose a certain move (sometimes stockfish agrees, sometimes it doesn’t, but human-vs-human this is what you think is the best attack).

Lovely insights

Brilliant sacrifice move Nelson! ‼️

@pramodkumarnarayanan9520

2 ай бұрын

Blunder to be exact

Very good. So much fun!

I actually played a similar game yesterday. I sacrificed a bishop, which turned out to be a blunder, sacrificed a rook on the very next move and yet managed to checkmate my opponent in five moves. The problem was that I missed a checkmate in three because I got nervous. Fortunately, my opponent missed the only move that saves the game. That's an interesting concept, really. I much prefer a slow, methodical type of playing, attacking my opponent's weaknesses and creating a mating net. That said, if there's an opportunity to sacrifice my entire army for a quick checkmate, I might consider doing it.

That was brilliant!

Queen B3 to C2, nice diagonal behind the bisschop

@Thatoneguy-12

2 ай бұрын

“Bisschop”😂

@msolec2000

2 ай бұрын

@@Thatoneguy-12 How is that piece called in _his_ language, btw?

@Thatoneguy-12

2 ай бұрын

@@msolec2000 How is that piece called in “Chess”, btw?

@user-ft3yi7ht2c

2 ай бұрын

@@Thatoneguy-12 bisschop is dutch meaning

@JimBalter

2 ай бұрын

@@Thatoneguy-12 chess isn't a language, dimwit ... in international notation it's ♗, in Dutch it's "bisschop"

I have notifications turned on and I'm subscribed and your videos aren't coming up on my recommended which is frustrating cause I keep missing your videos 😢

I'm rated 1600 and I wouldn't sacrifice in this position. But if you're in for a thrill, might give it a go

@williamsweeney5249

2 ай бұрын

Im 2000 and I agree. Sure it has attacking opportunities, but I would much rather play h5 h6 and hopefully get a nice attack from there without a sacrafice

@georgehavrincea9258

2 ай бұрын

@williamsweeney5249 Definitely. As Bobby Fischer said: great opportunities come from a superior position. Not everyone has the understanding to play gambits as Mikhail Tal.

@leroydanny4072

2 ай бұрын

Seems the guy is nowadays posting for beginners because a intermediate player will refute that attack

@cugeltheclever3766

2 ай бұрын

​@@williamsweeney5249hi I am 1200 elo is it really bad to sacrifice a bishop or knight for a pawn to destabilize the enemy kings defenses, so far it has worked for me?

Finally some good content as per my liking. We are talking advance concepts

I think that you should always play a move under the assumption that your opponent will play perfectly. But greek gift go brrrr

@pearljam_1

2 ай бұрын

Well even if your opponent were to play perfectly there is no way most players could calculate the move sequence in advance to know what the perfect moves would be. BUT if you could find at least one move by your opponent that casts doubt then I agree with you - it’s a no go on the sac. Generally if you aren’t making some sacrifices based on patterns and intuition then you are too passive of a player. You simply can’t calculate everything.

@allanshpeley4284

2 ай бұрын

Meh I disagree. Chess is meant to be played for fun. If there's even a remote chance that a double or triple piece sac can lead to mate, you should go for it. Points come and go. The lulz of beating someone like this last forever.

Alternative title could be that you shouldn't just trust your opponent's sacrifices. Like you said, they can consolidate with Bf5 and the attack completely fizzles. After Qd1, Bf5 is not even an only move. Qe8, g6, even Bxg5 are all fine. I honestly think this game is just not a good example since the most obvious and forcing line is terrible for white with no compensation. There's the Colle vs John O'Hanlon game where the computer doesn't love Colle's Greek gift, but the normal move of Kg6 in response was a blunder. Even Kg8 would've required a series of precise moves to keep his advantage.

Hello, first of all thank you for your great content, it helps me alot with getting better in chess. I have one question, why not after taking with the bishop: horse to d5, his horse probably takes and then taking with the queen would be a much easier and faster checkmate (If I don‘t miss anything, what could be the case, I am just 1.300) habe a great day and greetings from Austria

Just got my first brillant move thanks to you

I guess this kind of game is fine for

Good stuff

Basically, that is a bluff move, similar to my rook sack. I sacked one rook which happened to be a bluff, it looked like I would be achieving a great attack but I didnt. My second rook sack and knight sack were brilliant moves that allowed me to checkmate my opponent with a casual queen manuevre.

As a Colle and London player, this is pure gold...

What about knight to g5 as first move as sacrifice. Black pawn takes it white takes with pawn which is taken by black bishop and then white bishop gives a check with support from its rook

Hi Nelson, I would love a video on improving at faster time controls. I’m over 1400 rapid but I cannot seem to stay above 900 in blitz and I don’t even much bother with bullet because it basically feels like I’m makin random move

@Silas-um7mi

2 ай бұрын

Get better at slower controls. That way you see patterns quicker (not just tactics, development and endgames as well) Learning two openings for black and white at least six moves deep also helped me. Makes the middle game easier because you are not in a strange position quite as often. Also helps with time management.

Ive won countless games on the variations of greek sacrifice and when i looked at this position i was like huh? You can take? then what knight? Pawn captures? Pawn recaptures? Nah there has to be some juncture where this isn't right by just refusing to take material like a beginner. I can also see a lateral move to the H file by queen. The pawn getting to g6. So im curious if this stuff will work. Im taking the bishop then playing defense

11:06 So instead of e6, whats the best move

@dnthymamai

2 ай бұрын

I would guess g4, to undermine opponent's f pawn, and re-open the way for the Queen. Surprised he didn't mention it EDIT: No, that seems wrong. Opponent will just not take and leave the tension there. And if we take, opponent takes with Bishop, with the Rook protecting him... :-/

Bottom line: when in doubt, sac a piece. 😂

5:54 Qc2 is m2 or I miss something? Edit: lol didn't see that Kg6 can capture

Queen c2 would have been far faster for that mating pattern. Even if they moved that pawn on the G file forward, you could still take and get checkmate. Rook could block at f5, but then they have to keep the Rook there and something defending it like Bishop C8 is already doing.

@baileybailey919

2 ай бұрын

nope your wrong

@cookiegirl1097

2 ай бұрын

@@baileybailey919How so? I am 1010, so maybe I just don’t see the flaws

@TheSkullkid16

2 ай бұрын

@baileybailey919 Super helpful and explanatory. Not contradictory or vague at all 👍 Edit: Contrarian, not contradictory. Damn auto correct.

@cookiegirl1097

2 ай бұрын

@@TheSkullkid16 I hate autocorrect too

@Silas-um7mi

2 ай бұрын

You gotta tell me at what time please. At the beginning it is the best move, but not because of mate threats so I don't think you mean that. At the very end there is a knight on d4, guarding c2, so it obviously wouldn't work. I am guessing you mean instead of sacrificing the knight? Which also wouldn't work, they could move their f-pawn to block.

That's the difference between a Grandmaster and others...they don't think this "might" work, they see what WILL work.

@moharmon770

Ай бұрын

Sure, but I’m not playing against Grandmasters so 🤷‍♂️

Always good ideas here. (PS: I've found that "Sac" is short for "sacrifice." It wouldn't be "sack.")

At first i thought Be4 to put pressure on D5 but after Be3 there is nothing. I dislike the sac of the bishop, the knight sac looks fine, opening the H file often works for me

@chess_vibes: You should make a video on _defensive_ techniques: the opponent is threatening to carry out a strong attack, we have to spot the threat and guess what's the appropriate defensive move. (Or do you already have such a video?...)

Funny thing, I just did this in a game last week, knowing I would be behind but that the opponent will crumble under pressure. I got to a position with some 5 points of pieces behind but won in the end. Quite fun!

I am just a noob but what if you sack Rh8 check king has to take than Qh5 check and then g6??? Can he stop it ? Re8 Kg8… okay 😅 Wait and than bh7 what than???? Isn’t it like a force mate?? I think it is with Qf7 after Pxh6 and if not so Qg7 mate.. am I missing something???!!?!!!

Question? Why sacrifice the Bishop 1st instead of sacrafing the Knight 1st , which would make the Bishop pawn take safe with the Rook protecting it?

What if he pushed his H pawn? I see this as a potential threat to opening the file for rook or attacking with a queen and bishop. But I am not really a chess player. Mr. Vibes didn't even mentioned that possibility, so this move might be trash somehow?

@Silas-um7mi

2 ай бұрын

Depends a little on when you want to play that move. Starting position it would actually be a fine move, not great though. It's too slow, so black can be really annoying in the center with fxe5, creating their own attack by opening lines with white's king in the center.

Pawn to g6 is the best move. If Rook f8 to g6, then check with rook h1 to h8. King takes then Qd4 to Qh5 check. King to g8, Qh7 check. King f8, Qh8 checkmate. Isn't it so?

9:18 into video … white moves Pawn to e6 in hope to take black’s Rook when in next move white’s Kt either moves to e6 or f7

Black to move to Kf7, e6+ ,be6,qh5+, kg8,g6 black queen has to take or gg

why not dxe6 ？

I'm wondering why you didn't think queen to C2 earlier. I saw that as the best move even before moving the bishop.

@Silas-um7mi

2 ай бұрын

Wondered that too. Pretty sure he was just having fun at a lower elo and wanted to sacrifice very badly.

When u sacrifice , it depends on who ur playing. There are so many smurf accounts that practice that it makes it difficult to get out of 500 to 600. Play 900 and it’s easier than 400 to 500.

I got click baited, there is no sound continuation after the bishop sac. The biggest blunder was imo not taking the knight. I calculated after fxg5, hxg5 kg6 (not giving an opportunity to play g6 to white where white would be better), i dont see how white attacks. If qc2+ then simply kf7 and next black will develop his white bishop or tuck his king in e8 and play be6. White just don't have enough firepower for a mate.

Did exactly that the other day. I was losing real hard so i just sacrificed a piece to check the king. They took the bait and then all of a sudden i was winning.

Art of chess - Chapter 4: Blunder atttacks.

🎉

My favourite chess channel

I'm scared af to sacrifice a piece if it is not fried liver attack case.

Its not bad if your not agaunst Stockfish 😂

Easy survival for opponents 😂😂😂

Knight G5 is a better sacrifice

Rf6 you win the queen after rook sac at h8

if you go to high depth and stockfish still says it's a blunder, don't try to pass it as a "it makes sense" in some situations. Yeah sure, if your oponents blunders out you can recover, but you ain't beating stockfish.

For the first question, it would help to know if you're playing white or black (paused at 0:24)

After the bishop "sacrifice" you just have a losing position, but after the further knight "sacrifice" the position would have been completely lost. That's what everyone is aspiring to !

Queen on c2 to h7

There are too many defenders and g5 is blocked for a typicsl Ng5+ follow up and Qh5+ after. The queen doesn't even have a clear path there. Why on earth would you even considet Bxh7 The bishop was attacking h7 and you give it away. The knight was the other piece attackingg that side and you give it away. All just to open the file for the rook? You have to do some moving aroubd to double the rooks and bring some more pieces. Unless the opponent makes one move and you make two moves, this is just bad strategic advice.

I think the particular mating pattern is just bad advice with all due respect. At least in my head that's how i sound when I'm ablut to lose: "oh yeah if he goes abc i can checkmate him." Then of course he plays something else and i just lose 😢 You dont need a mating net/pattern to make the sacrifice good, you may just win material. For example, just cleaning up all the kingside pawns is often ample compensation for a piece.

I stuck at 1200 and this is what I wanted ❤

Each time in your videos, after you've asked if we'd like to pause, and I do, I wonder how many actually did NOT have a chance to look at it.

@allanshpeley4284

2 ай бұрын

I always have a chance, but rarely find the right move.

This is a good example position and probably a good idea to sac, but i think you did a poor job explaining why. In order for this sac to be good you have to calculate at least "takes+ takes Ng5+ takes takes+ Kg8 g6". The advise to sac just because you have seen similar pattern before is terrible hopechess.

nice

It's "saccing"

if it was me, I would have dropped the queen behind the bishop before sacrificing. would that have been too slow?

@Jammonstrald

2 ай бұрын

yes because black could push their pawn to f5 and then the sac line is interrupted. White can't take that pawn because they lose the trade, then any other move white can make to try to set something up, black plays something like pawn to g6 and that entire attack idea is lost.

@MrRabiddogg

2 ай бұрын

@@Jammonstrald I should have seen that. you'd have to sacrifice the dark bishop first for my idea to work.

6:00 threat is kE5 double check threatening, so knight must be captured, then sac rook h8 and queen H3 h7

@Wobesz

2 ай бұрын

I think you mean Nd5 first of all and then hanging the queen to the bishop on C8. You lost the rook, the knight and the queen. Resign😂

@Prashant-7

2 ай бұрын

​@@Wobesz he chooses queen d1 if black waste moves But D5 is forced line What do you mean by hanging queen?

@Wobeszz

2 ай бұрын

@@Prashant-7 (6:00) First of all, you wrote KE5. It would be Ke5, secondly, The K is for king and the king is on e1, so unless he can magically teleport there I don't see how we're gonna get there. Mind you we have our own fucking pawn on e5. Therefore I'm assuming you meant Nxd5. and you're threatening a discovered check which results in a double check. So, you just fucked up the notation, sure whatever, idc about all of that. So let's say the knight on b6 takes back our knight and then we go Qh3 like you said. YOU HANG YOUR QUEEN TO Bc8 AFTER SACKING THE ROOK. NOW YOU"VE LOST YOUR ROOK YOUR KNIGHT AND YOUR QUEEN AND YOU CAN RESIGN. I'm not mad at you hahah, you're just not seeing the sniper on C8, which is humorous, but on the other hand I can't stand you not thoroughly reading my previous comment, which is pretty fucking clear. So at 6:00: Nxd5, Nxd5 (or Qxd5), Rh8+, Kxh8, Qh3+, Bxh3. that's right. Bishop takes queen on h3. Dead, deceased, gone.

@Wobeszz

2 ай бұрын

@@Prashant-7 First of all It's Ke5 not KE5, secondly the K stands for king and the king is on e1, so unless it can magically teleport to e5 we are not getting there, mind you our own pawn is standing on that same square. For those two reasons I'm assuming you meant Nxd5, which threatens a discovered check resulting in a double check, which leads to material loss or checkmate. Therefore they have to take the knight. Either with the queen or with the knight. Let's say they take with the Knight.Then according to your line you sacrifice the rook on h8, king takes, and then you go queen h3+. That just simply hangs your queen to bishop c8. The notation: Nxd5, Nxd5 or (Qxd5), Rh8+, Kxh8, Qh3+, Bxh3...... Now you've lost your rook, your queen and your knight. Time to resign.

@Prashant-7

2 ай бұрын

​@@Wobeszzok miscalculated , didn't see the bishop I am not a professional player/ strong player probably like you

Sorry I just can’t get on board with this one. The lesson seems to be, if your opponent blunders 3 times, you can still checkmate after you mess up. Isn’t this just the definition of hope chess?

Not usually a hater but this position is a pretty bad example, the queen is all the way on the queenside. If it was on d1 then consider the sac by all means, but we can't justify a sac when we have to spend time getting the queen in.

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10:18 just do a simple en passant its mate in 3 or less???

i mean the first one 0

its a bad move according to stockfish because it doesn't work against stockfish

It is only fun if it works or is sound. Whereas, if the bluff fails, one tends to look and feel like a complete idiot.

@allanshpeley4284

2 ай бұрын

Then you just sac the rest of your pieces and pretend you weren't trying from the start. boom.

I would never play that because it's risky, I would just develop normally.😏 And it's not boring for me.😎 The only reason why these normal positions can be boring is because we played a boring opening.🤓

NEVER suggest bad moves.

@Silas-um7mi

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

Hope chess

You forgot that kxe1

It's a blunder not a sacrifice lol

with no ze ro

This not working at 1400 😅

Stockfish is a jerk.

Even after g6 first there was mate. You just need to sacrifice the rook at h8 before Qh5 to deflect king and let queen come to h5 with check.

@BigDBrian

2 ай бұрын

It doesn't work, the king escapes. That blunders the entire game. g6 Rf6 Rh8+ Kxh8 Qh5+ Kg8 Qh7+ Kf8 Qh8+ Ke7

I just invest my 15 minutes i think its worth it🤔