We caught the stray Thermal pad and installed it. Thanks everyone for your eagle eye observation.

Cool....... it’s simple with humour which makes it accessible to everyone even Laurel & Hardy thumbs up best presentation since a long time! Cheers, Pluto

Excellent series. Very detailed, the most I've seen. Now, I feel more comfortable building my loop. Thanks

I have the same case and I got my first rad bought a 360 xspc, and will be buying a second 240 to add, this will be my first time water cooling so this videos helped me out tremendously. I am doing it to cool of my 780's open design since they are hitting 80 c with good air flow in the case. Thank you so much!

I want mosquitos haircut..NOW ! :D

Nice video! Good amount of information and fun!

very helpful

hi i'd like to know if the hard drive bays would still fit with that 240 radiator there

On GPUs like the Radeons you guys were demoing and the GTX 660s in my wife's computer, it may actually be easier to line the card up to the water block rather than the other way around by using the grooves milled into it for the capacitors and inductors. For example on my wife's GTX 660s, I used the T-groove on the block to line it up to the T-line of capacitors on the card -- plus since the card is, as you noted, much lighter than the block, it's easier to maneuver. Now not all cards will allow for this. The GTX 680 reference board is one such example where the capacitors are all along an edge of the board, so care will be needed to properly line things up.

@MosquitoMade

10 жыл бұрын

That is a good point. Whichever way is easiest is definitely the best way lol Though at the time, we hadn't yet removed all the plastic from the thermal pads (in the interest of sparing viewers from watching us peel off 60+ pieces of plastic to install it), so flipping the card would have meant all the thermal pads go everywhere in our case lol

Do you guys explain where/how to plug the fan and pump pin connectors? Thanks!

I guess that the 90° tubing is taxing the pump quite a bit, can every pump handle this kind of stress in a 2x GPU + CPU combo? Thanks.

Will I be able to get the rad and fittings into this case with a dual bay res instead of the one they used in the video?

I'm thinking about adding a custom water loop set from Alpha cool. I'll be using it to cool my 4790k and Titan X video card. EK released their Titan X water block and back plate so that part is set, and I know Alpha cool offers quality loops that include everything you need. I'm a little intimidated by this whole process but I just spent 3 grand on my first build (including my $800 monitor) and the only thing it's missing is a custom loop. I have the H100i on my CPU currently and it's doing a great job but my GPU is left on air. Not to mention how sexy a loop would look in my 760t case with it's giant window! I think I'll purchase everything I need (The AlphaCool set and EK block) and then take a month or so to research all the do's and don't's of watercooling. This is my first computer build ever and I'm already addicted. Plan to keep this computer for a couple years until NVIDIA releases Volta at which time I'll probably do a complete new build and sell of the Titan X rig. Can anyone recommend any other water cooling videos?

hey do you know what the max rad thickness you can fit in the bottom is with the psu cover on?? i still want to be able to use a hard drive cage.

hey guys what do you think about EVGA's HydroCopper editions? those cards already include waterblock, warranty shouldn't be "any" problem and saves bit of struggle as of no aftermarket watercooler installation; I know the price isn't exactly low, but overall it's cheaper than buying decent air-cooled card and water cooler separately...

7:25 - 7:30 a thermal pad fell off

@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods

10 жыл бұрын

FarFromLogic, no worries, we caught that and installed it.

This was really informative, thanks! I feel a lot more confident wetting my next rig now. One thing I'm confused about though is this parallel setup for GPUs. I paused at 16:04 to take a closer look but can't see the advantages over a typical setup. Wouldn't the top block receive less than the bottom as the coolant is being split 2 ways, whereas the bottom input has no choice but to enter the card? I would also have thought you'd get turbulence and back pressure from where the two points meet up at the output from the second card. Am I reading this completely wrong?

@MosquitoMade

9 жыл бұрын

Water (like electricity) takes the path of least resistance. Once pressurized (i.e. full and running), the resistance of going through the 2nd card is the same as the resistance going through the 1st card. Apply pressure to both cards, and the water will flow about equally through both, since the resistance to that pressure is the same. The main reason for running GPU's in parallel is to get a better flow rate out of your pump. The amount of water (or velocity of the water, whichever way you want to look at it) that goes through each card is lower, because each is only getting half of the water that the pump is sending through the loop. But the pressure is also decreased by half as well, since it only has to go through one GPU to continue on its way through the loop. It's not the easiest thing to visualize from words, but we do plan to do some testing so we can get some pressure and flow testing data on parallel vs serial

Really nice guide! Thank you guys. One thing that wasn't clear to me. Why did you decide to let the water flow directly from the CPU to GPU and from one radiator to another? Why didn't you add the second radiator between the CPU and GPU so the water flow would be this: pump-res -> CPU -> radiator -> GPUs -> radiator -> pump-res. Does your loop setup has some advantages in compared to my suggestion?

@MosquitoMade

10 жыл бұрын

The performance gains for that loop order (pump -> CPU -> Rad -> GPUs -> Rad) would provide minimal gains. It might decrease the GPU temps by a degree or two, but that would likely be it. This way decreases the amount of tubing, which helps keep flow/pressure up, and also makes the loop look a lot cleaner with shorter tubing runs. It might be worth experimenting with, and we may do that at some point; to produce some numerical data for it.

I would love to see some actual temperature stats between parallel and serial configs with two GPUs. Is it true that parallel is slightly warmer but keeps the two GPUs at around the same temp?

@MosquitoMade

10 жыл бұрын

My hypothesis on that would be that parallel would average out the GPU temperatures. I'm not sure it'd be slightly warmer, but rather the first second one might be slightly cooler instead. I'm also guessing the difference would be quite small though. I'd be more interested to see the flow rate changes, as I would think that it'd have a bigger effect there

@gilmarcostaneres7263

9 жыл бұрын

+Chrçis “Mosquito” Albee ç

Great vids, very informative. I'm planning my first custom hydro cooling loop and I'm uncertain what size PETG tubing and fittings I should use. My plan is to cool 2 MSI R9 390's with either EKWB or Alphacool waterblocks using a XSPC Photon 170 D5 Vario pump/res combo and a 360 radiator (either XSPC or Alphacool) in a parallel loop. CPU already has its own Corsair "All in One" cooling system. I don't want to spend a fortune on fittings and asthetics (Bling) are not a priority as I am probably the only one who will ever see it, But I DO want to protect my hardware investment with reliable fittings and a easy install. Currently I do not overclock, but if that is a factor, I'd like to leave room for that. I was thinking of using 10/14mm tubing and fittings. would that be sufficient? Is there a formula for calculating flow pressure and volume needs for cooling? The only thing I've heard so far is "120 for every stock device cooled, 240 for every overclocked device", regarding radiators. Any helpful advice would be appreciated, thanks.

@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods

8 жыл бұрын

Scott, people have debated about smaller Vs. larger tubing ID for decades while overlooking fact that ALL water blocks will restrict flow, regardless of the tubing ID. Don't worry about it. All of us staffer use 1/2" OD / 3/8" ID PETG and really like Primochill Ghost Revolver Compression Fitting for 1/2" OD / 3/8" ID Hard Tubing, recently posted video here, kzread.info/dash/bejne/ln98tdypfK6pnKg.html

I know that this is an old video but I am trying to figure out why you have two tubes running between the GPU's? Shouldn't it be: Tube from CPU to GPU 1. Tube OUT from GPU 1 in to GPU 2. Tube from GPU 2 to Res/pump/rad/whatever. So why the additional tube between the two?

Yes water cooling

will you add RAM or chipset waterblock ?

do you need 90˚ angle adapters for soft tubing because it might kink or is it just for hard tubing

@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods

7 жыл бұрын

It all depends on your layout, you're not obligated to use 90 degree.

Parallel has a slower flow rate than Serial you should know this as theres less pressure in the loop.

what do you do if there is no space between the gpu's

I got a SAPPHIRE DUAL-X 100314-4L Radeon HD 6970 2GB and want to water cool it now. Man Bill you keep me wanting to mod more. First it was my case CM HAF 912 and now its my GPU.

im confused isn't this a serial/parallel loop? you got hot water from the cpu feeding into the gpus

@MosquitoMade

9 жыл бұрын

David Warschauer When talking about parallel vs serial, it's just talking about the two GPUs, not the rest of it

Wouldt the water just go straight through the top GPU straight into the 2nd one ? not going through the entire first block ?

@MosquitoMade

9 жыл бұрын

About half of it would. Water (like electricity) takes the path of least resistance. So while filling, yes, most of the water will skip the first block until the second one is full. Once full, however, the resistance to going through the 2nd card is the same as the resistance going through the 1st card. Apply pressure to both cards, and the water will flow about equally through both, since the resistance to that pressure is the same. I know there's a bit more complication to it than that, but I'm simplifying it for the sake of character count lol We do plan to do some testing on serial vs parallel GPUs in the future, though, so we look forward to seeing the data.

@marksmith2310

9 жыл бұрын

***** ahh I get you, that's pretty interesting thank for detailing it for me

Does the back plate come with the water block?

@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods

5 жыл бұрын

cpu waterblocks include back plates. GPU water block back plates sold separately, thanks, www.mnpctech.com

there was still plastic on 1 thermal pad :o

@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods

10 жыл бұрын

liamvant, we had caught that, thanks for noting

stupid Q: but does the gpu still work without a fan connected ?

@Warchamp7

8 жыл бұрын

The fan is for cooling the GPU. That's what the water block is doing now instead

thought you want to hit a rad before going to the cpu block. Why don't you go pump, rad, cpu, gpu, rad, pump?

@MosquitoMade

10 жыл бұрын

That might be the ideal theoretical order, but part of it is also the aesthetic. The loop looked cleaner this way, and the performance gains of going to a radiator right before going into the other components wouldn't be very noticeable, I don't think.

@jesselamba6604

9 жыл бұрын

Honestly, the flow order does not matter too much, I normally go for what will create the cleanest looking loop. Once the loop is running, the temps are all based on the average water temp, and given the typical flow the order in which parts show up does not make a decent difference at all. As long as you have enough raddage to cover you hardware you are good to go.

7:27 a memory thermal pad fell off. Maybe even two...

You lost a thermal pad during that flip

@VegaDW

10 жыл бұрын

I noticed too, some how I dont think they care

@jassilamba80

10 жыл бұрын

MrKunke We care, we noticed that as well, and did fix it before we finalized everything.

surely you want a radiator between the CPU and GPU? Otherwise you are feeding the GPU with the CPU's hot water...?

@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods

7 жыл бұрын

No, temperature is consistent, regardless of radiator location in the loop.

@miramar-103

7 жыл бұрын

but the water coming out of the CPU is hot .. so you're using hot water to cool the GPU instead of cold ... kind of defeats the purpose no? while it may be 'consistent' it's probably not as efficient as it could be... saying that I do see quite a few setups doing the same thing that you are doing, so i'm very curious about this... (water cooling noob here)

@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, CPU and GPU are hot spots at start-up, but once water is cycling through the entire loop, the radiator will dictate the temperature of the water, which will remain consistent.

@Encephalitisify

7 жыл бұрын

Aaron Cody it doesn't matter the order, just the flow rate. The exception being that you want the reservoir at the start of the loop. You can have this set up as long as you have an optimal flow rate through the loop. The order doesn't matter, cause like everyone said, the water will absorb the heat evenly throughout.

That is a shinny looking wb, but i didn't like it, i prefer a full block so i only use the XSPC Razor series wb for all of my GPU

@MosquitoMade

10 жыл бұрын

No arguments there. I also like the "true" full cover blocks, like the XSPC, and Swiftech blocks. Like we said about CPU blocks too, these days with GPU blocks being so well refined there are usually minimal gains in performance from different manufacturers, so I say go for the aesthetic that you like. Chances are you'll be seeing a lot more of your build than anyone else, so you might as well like looking at it :)

like if you have 4 way sli

@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods

7 жыл бұрын

You get either 2, 3 or 4-way SLI Bridge Connector for Liquid Cooling, koolance.com/index.php?route=product/search&filter_name=bridge

@cyberferno398

7 жыл бұрын

thx