God's Intentions | Jesus Loves You-(UK) | Talk Heathen 05.32
Talk Heathen 05.32 for August 8, 2021 with ObjectivelyDan and Gayle Jordan (@Recovering from Religion).
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Jesus: "Let me in" Me: "Why?" Jesus: "So I can save you." Me: "From what?" Jesus: "From what I am going to do to you, if you don't let me in." Yea, that sounds, like abuse to me.
@Darth69906
3 жыл бұрын
Boring… you are repeating other atheist,,… you have no earthly one sim
@Darth69906
3 жыл бұрын
That is boring and I have heard it multiple times
@Darth69906
3 жыл бұрын
He hegyak…… heard it befudking before
@Darth69906
3 жыл бұрын
Hegyak.. you fkn bore me with your without..,. And without about…
@Darth69906
3 жыл бұрын
Dan … has to cancel and talk to the us
Christian: It’s not a religion it’s a re... Taxman: ‘scuse me? Christian: uh ...
This dude is saying thank you as an excuse for not listening
Reminds me how most MLM pitches nowadays begin with "This is not an MLM"
@nunyabusiness979
3 жыл бұрын
So, you're saying they are lying? That's just rude. 😂😂😂
“My religion isn’t a religion because my religion is true.” Reminds me of some of my insanely bigoted relatives who truly believe they aRe’Nt bigoted, simply because (in their minds) it’s just “true” that eVeRyOnE eLsE is inferior to them. And it truly is one of the most virulent forms of rationalization.
@samuelschick8813
3 жыл бұрын
Michael Reindel, It's like when Christians say other religions are false and theirs is the only true religion and god. Christian: " Christianity and the god of the Bible are the only true ones. All others are false." Me: " Please list the criteria you judge other gods and religions and holy books false." Christian list the criteria. Me: " Now apply that same criteria to your own god and religion and Bible." Christian: " That criteria does not apply to my god, religion and the Bible because my god, religion and Bible are the only true ones.' Gotta love the mental gymnastics and hoops the religious go through in order to make their fairy tale true in their own mind.
@loki6626
3 жыл бұрын
@@samuelschick8813 I occasionally watch Apostate Prophet's channel. The comments section is full of christians laughing at how ridiculous the claims in the qur'an are. It boggles my brain how they can hold totally different standards of evidence for their own extraordinary beliefs.
@gamingdragon1356
3 жыл бұрын
@@loki6626 well Islam is far worst than Christianity. Try living in a Muslim dominated region in Pakistan as such it's worse than any other religion or irreligious group.
@samuelschick8813
3 жыл бұрын
@@loki6626, What I like is when Christians say how Islam and the Quran and Allah are evil. They cite the genocide, slavery and murder in the Quran being carried out by Allah or in his name. But as soon as you point out the god of the Bible does the exact same thing or commands it carried out in his name, all of a suddenly the criteria for what is evil changes. They find ways to justify and excuse the very same thing they condemn in the Quran as evil and ungodly.
@loki6626
3 жыл бұрын
@@gamingdragon1356 Oh I totally agree that islam is worse but only because christianity has evolved.
Christ, how many times can he say. 'Thanks for explaining that," but I am going to ignore everything you said and make my same point again with slightly different words.
@thegrouchization
3 жыл бұрын
Evidently a number between 0 and too many.
@powbobs
3 жыл бұрын
@@thegrouchization Two is too many.
"Thank you for explaining that. Now let me ignore everything you said and carry on with my meaningless string of unsupported assertions".
@JeffNelson-md9fb
Ай бұрын
😅😅😂😅😊😅
I just stuck a toasting fork into my head. It wasn't as painful as this caller.
"Thank you for explaining that. " But he just pushes on . . .
@visforvegan8
3 жыл бұрын
Someone committed homicide tonight, and it's was this man fault. Rip
@Whiskey.T.Foxtrot
3 жыл бұрын
He is following a script. Not listening and not engaging in a thoughtful conversation.
@TestMeatDollSteak
3 жыл бұрын
It’s the hallmark of people who only “reach out” to atheists and non-believers with the intent of proselytizing and preaching a sermon at them, rather than honestly discussing and debating an argument or issue with them.
So the Christian god "loves" us so much that he sacrificed himself to himself to "save" us from the rules he made? That's the logic of "you made me hit you by ignoring the rules I made up!"
This callers stupidity actually offends me
@someonezmom
3 жыл бұрын
ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ lol
@marquisdemoo1792
3 жыл бұрын
No, he cannot fix what he is; what offends me is that someone supposedly less stupid fed him this shit.
@devaunplowman2327
3 жыл бұрын
@@marquisdemoo1792 No it is still his fault for believing the bs that was fed to him. He can change the same as everyone else that has come out of religion.
@marquisdemoo1792
3 жыл бұрын
@@devaunplowman2327 You cannot fix stupid, he is never going to get any cleverer. When a dog jumps up all over you with muddy paws do you blame the dog or the owner?
@devaunplowman2327
3 жыл бұрын
@@marquisdemoo1792 that's a complete lie he isn't a dog he can learn. If your going to blame who teaches him than you have to blame who their teachers are as well and so on. Saying he cant change is completely nonsensical like the point your trying to make.
I love Gayle eyeroll 1:15 min in, when the caller mentions Frank Turek. 😂😂😂
"You dont have to do anything to go to heaven" "So if I die right now and I dont believe, I would be in heaven?" "No" 😂
My RELIGION is certainly not a RELIGION, but let me tell you about these RELIGIOUS stories I've been hearing all my life. And let me share my RELIGIOUS gospel with you that comes straight out of my RELIGIOUS holy book. You know the one that my RELIGIOUS forefathers compiled when my RELIGION was just starting. Oh did I mention this is not a RELIGION.
@alexhetherington8028
3 жыл бұрын
🤣
I don't have my own thoughts so I'll tell you what I heard and ignore your valid point.
The caller Jesus Loves You is drowning in his kool-aid so much that he's incoherent. " Thank you for explaining that "
My favorites from Christians: 1.) "Christianity is not a religion." 2.) "I'm not religious, I'm a follower of Jesus Christ." 3.) " I'm not religious. I do believe in a supreme creator."
@user-pn4py6vr4n
3 жыл бұрын
Another favourite: "Atheism is a religion."
"This is all a fantasy, we are not real, this is just a test for the real reality of heaven and hell." Totally tiresome idiocy. But this fool can't question any of it.
God did not create man in his own image. Rather, Man created god in his (man's) image.
Christianity isn't a religion Like blonde isn't a hair color
@MrEvanrich
2 жыл бұрын
It's not.. It's an IQ level 🤣
Is this caller channeling Peter Lorre? I kept waiting for him to say, "You despise me, don't you?" LOL
Nuts!! This guy is just preaching
How do you know that an imaginary "being" can create anything that isn't imaginary?
He lost me at "Frank Turek" 😂
My shoes are not shoes because I wear them on my hands.
The caller thinks that saying phrases like: please, thank you and I'm sorry can disguise his obstinate bullshit.
This guy's arguments were so bad that God apparently disrupted his phone connection.
Makes sense that he uses Frank Turek as a source of information. That guy is especially obtuse and dishonest.
Why is it some christians feel it is so important to convince people that christianity is not a religion? I don't get the point. I spent the vast majority of my life as an evangelical christian. I didn't even hear of that "argument" until I was much older.
@SnakeMan448
3 жыл бұрын
It's an attempt at seeming special and above all other groups, with no substance and smacks of bigotry.
New listener. Dude sounds like he works at a call center.
It's not a religion. It's not a relationship. It's a religionship! Let me hear ya R'Amen! Give it up for the one true pasta! 🙌
A relationships takes interaction between two people.
It's moving the goal posts.
Thank you for that means please let me finish my fantasy by telling you a fable
i had a christian say this to me, i said great. we now can tax all the churches and money you give them is not tax deductible. he did not like this one bit.
He’s coming back soon just give him another couple thousand years he’s gotta iron his robe and get his sandals polished he’s busy so be patient 😂
If christianity isn't a religion, then I want the tax exempt status removed.... immediately!
Religion is defined as a set of supernatural beliefs. If you are having a relationship with an invisible person with supernatural powers, that is religion.
I believe Jesus Loves You's name is pronounced "Hey-Zeus Low-ves U-eh"
How can i say, how can I say...... that Im another lover of ancient mideast propaganda.
The only way to get back to some type of perfection is becoming a child or infant again because they don't know right from wrong at the offset it has to be learned meaning they have to get the knowledge of right and wrong or aka Good and evil
@kissit012
2 жыл бұрын
How is being ignorant equivalent to being perfect?
@bigdaddygoon828
2 жыл бұрын
@@kissit012 if we use in the Adam and Eve story as a basis for ignorance then yes babies and young children are ignorant of good and evil aka right and wrong just like Adam and Eve and they called them perfect because they didn't have the knowledge of Good and evil aka right and wrong yet until after they gained the knowledge that's why they called young children and babies innocents
@stonecoldfloors8200
2 жыл бұрын
@@bigdaddygoon828 er.. no ! That's not why.
Just exactly how narcissistic do you have to be to claim to know Gods mind when it contradicts Gods word? The problem is, it either is Gods word and it is true or it isn't and it's useless. You can't have it both ways.
I dont think he knows what "thank you" means. It's like he's trying to be polite before completely ignoring what was said
Gayle nailed it.
He’s call center trained
The rest of the UK unreservedly apologise.
All other reglions make you do something but with you do something but its different somehow
They have to be religions or they dont' get a tax free status.
@bobwilkinson2008
9 ай бұрын
Don't get me started on that one
Matthew 6:18 - 48 is Jesus’s instruction on how to conduct yourself to gain a place at the country club in the clouds = religious practice.
"It's not a religion, it's a fellowship." **facepalm** Do people who call in to these shows not listen to more than half an episode?
You missed an opportunity to better understand the motivation of the caller (and the many others like him). For example, the need to assert that their religion is not "a religion": why do they want that? What is their definition of a religion? Why do they need to distinguish theirs? What would they gain by it? Perhaps they want to rise above the pack and be unique and special. Maybe they suspect that "religion" is the hang-up for non-believers, so if they can avoid that label, they can make progress converting. Or maybe, they just use it as the opening line of their sales pitch, hoping to get their audience curious and so wiling to listen further. It would be helpful if you exposed these underlying motivations and needs. Former believers and those in transition would benefit to see the tactics pointed out, exposed, and disempowered.
I'm guessing that he doesn't actually know anything about other religions.
Thank you for explaining but I wasn't listening I was just waiting for my turn to talk.
Cool so if it’s not a religion then they aren’t covered by freedom of religion or get tax exemption.
Looks like Salad Fingers is back on the Zoloft again.
Explaining the rules of your religion don't make it not a religion
if atheism is a religion can we have tax free status?
What a pile!!! IMAGINE NO RELIGION ITS EASY IF YOU TRY✌️
At 8:37 I realized I was actually in hell.
It's nice hos all of this dude's ramblings contradict the old testament most completely... it's not a religion, it's a retcon.
It's a religion........
🤣 “Thank you for that” - so funny 🤣. so, Thank you for that 😁 “Of all things, God chose us to make in His Own Image and Likeness”. Q: So in Heaven, how do we look 👀 like . I thought we become spirits disembodied (I forgot term) mind/consciousness. So, what happened to image and likeness 🧐. Does God look like Homo Sapiens, modern or primitive or Invisible Thinking Air 💨 ❓❔❓❔
Nothing corrupts the mind like religion. Christianity is super corrosive of the intellect; so just from Christianity's deleterious effects on thinking one can build an argument that the Jesus cult is a religion. 😇
If you was an astronaut you could go to heaven they have astronauts in heaven right now and they live in the international space station the Chinese even have a space station in heaven
The repeated "Thank you for explaining that" just came across as condescending.
So Christianity isn't a religion because- - God created man in his own image - You don't have to do anything to get to heaven - You only have to make a decision - Humanity's default state is to be in heaven - We aren't supposed to go to hell ... Damn, that avoids every aspect of religion. I guess Christianity must be true, now.
@kelseykjarsgaard5774
3 жыл бұрын
Oh you got try to live holy life to get to heaven
As soon as I hear a theist with a middle eastern accent I usually don't even bother lol
his claim is ridiculous.
I agree with the caller it is a superstitious delusion...
Christianity is a religion, Buddhism , hinduism etc don't follow the definition of a religion but are still classified as religions .
This guy is hung up on his own confusion.
It's not a religion because it speaks about redemption... Just like every other religion? The brainwashing is thorough in this one
Can you stop saying "thank you for explaining that". Because, A. it's really annoying and B. you're just ignoring the point. Jesus Christ, this guy was frustrating.
You would be more successful on teaching differential calculus to a toaster than communicating with a Christian fundamentalist.
so many of these guys just wait to speak and don't listen it's annoying
Aren't Christians called to preach the word of god? Don't Christians have to baptize? So What's all this "Christians don't have to do anything" nonsense? Someone needs to open the bible.
Ok Christianity isn’t a religion. Now let’s figure out how many trillions of dollars in back taxes those not religious churches owe
Christianity is headache, it is like a migraine that never fucking goes away.
This bullshit that Christianity is not a religion. I listen to a voice inside of my head therefore Jesús is my pal.
Your free because of religion.
So cringey
This dude has been on before on other channels and calls himself "JC loves you" in order to get YOU to say it. I guess he thinks that he gets brownie points in heaven if he can get atheists to say it. Anyway, all his arguments are weaker than a cup of tea made with a teabag that's been used six times already.
It's a cult
Why on earth did you just let this guy waffle on saying nothing of substance and treating him like he had important and creditable things to say
At the risk of sounding stereotypical/racist, the more he says "thank you for explaining" after everything... 1. Cheapens the actual good the hosts do in actually explaining/educating the audience. 2. REALLY invokes that old stereotype of Asians being super passive, timid, and dishonest. Makes him look like the old caricatures of duplicitous Asians. Not a good look, but i get where hes coming from. Hope he finds his way free.
Most pointless caller ever
This guy is a clown
Technically christianity isn't a religion. It is a term that groups a vast array of christian religions ie protestants , catholics mormons,...
@tomjackson7755
3 жыл бұрын
@@r.m.5548 Why do you troll like this?
@wunnell
3 жыл бұрын
Do you think that there aren't denominations and sects of other religions too? Technically, whether or not Christianity qualifies as a religion depends very much on your definition of "religion". The important point is that the caller is trying to differentiate Christianity by virtue of the fact that other religions are made up without ever demonstrating that Christianity isn't made up as well. The fact is that it's a religion to the same degree that those religions that he accepts as religions are religions.
@yabutmaybenot.6433
3 жыл бұрын
@@tomjackson7755 Sorry, but Christianity is the religion, and protestants, catholics and mormons are merely different sects of that religion.
@tomjackson7755
3 жыл бұрын
@@wunnell The denominations and sects are the religions. They are what has the belief systems and nuance. No one is a christianity. They are the title of whatever denominations or sect. It is just like a flock isn't a sheep, it is a group of sheep. I totally agree with what you said about the caller. I am just pointing out a technicality.
@tomjackson7755
3 жыл бұрын
@@yabutmaybenot.6433 The denominations and sects are the religions. They are what has the belief systems and nuance. No one is a christianity. They are the title of whatever denominations or sect. It is just like a flock isn't a sheep, it is a group of sheep.