This is why people absoulty love your channel! Great great content!

@knifesharpeningnorway

3 жыл бұрын

Jupp hes always got good videoes

@knifesharpeningnorway

3 жыл бұрын

Im gonna do some english videoes btw trying to do half and half

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro 🙏

If my wife catches me watching this video, she will have me committed! 😁 Thanks Jef, and Connie. Merry Christmas! 🎄

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

😂 i felt silly even making it but there are so few videos showing these, i figured it would add to the knowledge base.

I was literally just thinking “when is Jeff gonna do a video on these?” 😂 thanks for making this btw. Hope you had a good holiday. Take care man!

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll have a sharpening video up, before next weekend. I was going to make an all inclusive video, with the lapping/sharpening, but it was such a task to flatten them, i decided to make it separate.

Great video! I really love my venevs because of the finish they leave on my knives. I recently bought the 100/240 grit stone, and I enjoy the fact that it cuts slow as I am still figuring my way through sharpening. Then again, the 240 silicon carbide that I have is great for my edges as the coarsest grit, but when it comes to regrinding behind the edge of the knife, I found that the 100 diamond grit worked better for me.

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

Nice. I found the exact opposite to be true for me. Diamond just doesn’t cut fast enough. Sic on the other hand, speeds things along. It’s not a bad thing to have slower stones, as you described, esp when learning. That didn’t occur to me. I’ll be sure to bring that point up next time i discuss them 👍

Damn why am I so excited for this video!!??

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

😁

I gotta try these, good stuff man.

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

I'll be getting that sharpening video thrown together this week. Gonna beat on this factory edge a bit more, before I take it to the diamonds

@NORTHWESTKNIFEGUY

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jef looking forward to it.

Enjoyed the video, love my venev stones.

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

The smaller sized stones i have, stay in my back pack. They are my go to field set. 👌

@jamesmiller360

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jef I watched your old video on the small stones and bought the coarse one. After using it I bought the large set from Amazon. Now my favorite stones.

The stones can be bought directly from VID but shipping is absurd

I just bought these and the gritomatic stones trying to build up my sharpening resources. I was curious about the difference between the gritomatic and sigma select and if you've ever tried sigma selects higher grits like the 10000 or 13000. Been loving the videos

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

You started out with some excellent choices 👌. The highest Suehiro stones I’ve used is the g-8 8000 grit. What’s the difference? Well the Suehiro polishes better than the venev, as far as I’ve seen. I’d need to do a side by side to really compare. I’ll put a pin in that, for a future video 👍

Coooooool can't wait to see how they cut! Have you ever lapped your spyderco benchstones? I'm not sure if it's necessary, but I clean mine with barkeeper's friend and a pumice stone & the medium feels like it's lost a ton of it's bite. Almost feels like it's loaded up with the pumice stone or smth.

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

Yes i have. They are a real pain to get flat. Once you do, they stay that way for a loooong time. I spent about 30-45 min lapping mine. I usually take my ultra fine stone to 500 grit. From there it breaks in with use. It cuts about as well as the regular fine stone, till break in happens. Usually a dozen or so knives does the trick, but you could speed up the process by using a chisel or something. Just lay it on the stone and go at it hard till the texture gets where you want it.

👍

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

🤘👊

Hello, when you say the grit of the powder, what standard do you use ? JIS ? I think talking in micron would make it more simple

@Jef

2 ай бұрын

Talking in micron would absolutely be helpful! I’ve been saying this in videos for years. Help me convince every abrasive maker to add this information to their products 😁 As for the grit powder, i am only disclosing what i bought, and the information they provide. I couldn’t tell you what grit chart they are using, or what micron size the abrasive is. It’s just lapping powder. Many eBay sellers offer them up in packs of 4. Coarse, medium, fine, and ultrafine. In grit terms, 120-220grit, 400-600grit, 800-1000grit, 1500+ grit.

Do yall have some diamonds spare over or sumthing? Hehe good video. Il reckon theese need flattening very very rarely especially if used to thin knives and you draw a little grid pattern while doing so so you basically erase that pattern and use the whole stones. Can you a shinogi/thinning line on a kitchen knife?

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

That I’m not sure of. The coarse stones from my experience were a bit slow. Since many thinning jobs have a larger surface area than just a v bevel, i think they would be a poor choice. Of course i can always try em out and record the results 😁

@knifesharpeningnorway

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jef i meant on any stones mate hehe just want to see how crisp of a thinning line you can make. Btw here on out im being a all english speaking channel lost over 40 subscribers in a month speaking Norwegian

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

Man that’s rough. Not to discourage you from going back to English, but were your views higher?

@knifesharpeningnorway

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jef no a good bit lower views also. And a lot way to many saying roll trough and pull trough sharpeners are the best as fiskars and similar brands sell them 😂🤣 so you need to endure my bad english some years more mate

What was it you were spraying? Just water or soap and water? Thank you for this video! I have been looking for it for a while.

@Jef

2 ай бұрын

Just water. You could use soap but it isnt needed when lapping.

@Jef

2 ай бұрын

Was my video difficult to find? Seems like typing lapping venev or flattening venev should Pull it up in a search. KZread buries my videos it seems.

How often do you have to do this? Ive heard that you can do it with sand paper...is this true? Can you use a 320 grit diamond stone/plate to do this?

@Jef

5 ай бұрын

I duno about the sand paper thing. I never use it. Seems to be it would not be coarse enough to texture the surface, short of glazing it. However, as i said, Ive never tried it. 🤷‍♂️ Can a diamond plate/stone flatten them? Sure. Again, unless that plate is new, i dont think it will condition the surface texture, the way loose sic powder does. It is so cheap (sic powder), why use anything else? Diamond plates are pricey. I want to use them for sharpening, not repairing stones.

What’s up with the new grit rating on Venev’s website? Is the 5,000 grit stone the same as the old 2000? And the new 2500 like the old 1200?

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. There are many different grit charts vs micron sizes. Best bet is to just go by the micron

Where did you get that glass from is it special or just a regular old piece of glass

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

Just regular old piece of glass from a side table i threw out

any thoughts on Spydercos ultra fine ceramic stone 306UF? Flattening? How to?Thanks

@Jef

Ай бұрын

Exact same process for flattening and conditioning. The only difference between the uf and the fine, is surface texture. You can change both with loose sic powder. I did a video or two on spyderco ceramics. I think they are awesome. Just fine. I use em for touch ups

@Mrplacedcookie

Ай бұрын

@@Jef Thanks!

Had you sharpened any knives before doing the lapping?? How many knives do you think it will sharpen provided you condition them between sharpenings or should they be conditioned while sharpening?? Would you recommend them to learn on or something else??

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

No i had not sharpened any knives on them yet. They were brand new. Did they REQUIRE flattening? No. How many knives will it sharpen? I couldn’t begin to imagine. Many. Should they be conditioned while sharpening? I don’t think that’s quite necessary. Unless they load up badly, and you have difficulty removing it. It wouldn’t hurt, of course, but since they wear so slowly, I’d think probably over kill. Would i recommend them to learn on? Absolutely. Someone brought to my attention the coarse stones being slow, can help someone who is learning. They don’t cut as fast as a diamond coated plate, or sic stones, which are forgiving, should you make mistakes. Add into the whole package they cut any steel, and they are a fantastic choice.

@rickkerans8485

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jef Thank you guess I need to start saving.

How can I order on the web link? The site seems to be unable to process my order. (Put item in cart and attempt check out) Let me know, Thank you.

@Jef

3 ай бұрын

Just go to gritomatic.com Easier to use. If you want something from the other site and it doesn’t work all i could recommend is emailing them

I’m curious to know why you just didn’t buy them from Gritomatic?

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

I already had the 4x2 stones. Which I’ve been able to use for most my sharpening needs. Vid contacted me, and sent these directly, for me to test out.

@richardf9137

3 жыл бұрын

SWEET

Is there a reason you can’t just use a silicone carbide flattening stone?

@Jef

2 жыл бұрын

For lapping the only concern i concern i would have is the sic itself losing flat. Otherwise i see no reason why it can’t be used.

@slalomnorth

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jef Great thanks! Is there a difference in grits if you buy them directly from Russia compared to gritomatic? Or are they the same stones? I assume they just use a different scale and that’s why the grits are different on the two sites.

@Jef

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry about the late reply. KZread doesnt seem to let me know any more, when someone sends me a comment. No there is no difference in the stones. Just country of origin for shipment.

Привет из России друг 🤝

@Jef

Жыл бұрын

Hello from the US 👊

Where did you get that piece of glass?

@Jef

Жыл бұрын

Best place to find them id apartment complexes. When folk move out or update their furniture they tend to throw away there old coffee tables. Those usually have glass. That’s where i get mine

@mike212916

Жыл бұрын

@@Jef That would be a huge piece of glass lol. Id rather just buy one in the size I need

@Jef

Жыл бұрын

Not always. Some come with multiple small pieces. Can also get a cheap glass cutter at any hardware store. Regardless, you can just go to a hardware store and have em cut you a piece to size 👍

@j.m.3038

Жыл бұрын

3D printer glass bed are cheap, convenient and easy to find online.

I’ve done this a few times and that sound freaked my cat out worse than the vacuum cleaner

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

😂 it’s loud as all get out that’s for sure

What types of good stones you do not have to lap for flatness ?

@Jef

3 жыл бұрын

These would not require flattening, for a long time. The wear resistance is very high. They will dish however. Even Arkasnas stones, and Norton India, dish. Eventually, they show wear. The only stones you would not have to flatten is diamond plates. Like DMT and Atoma.

@young_of_the_mill9560

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jef thank you, very helpful