I'm glad you talked about over-stropping. I used to have that problem often because I would get obsessed with making the edge too polished. It would look amazing and was extremely narrow, sharp edges but it would be so smooth that I couldn't get it to have enough bite to slice into paper. That was awhile back. Luckily I've moved on from polished edges to a much more jagged edge with a heavy amount of bite because 95%+ of my actual usage is slicing through tape to open boxes. Sometimes I also was a little too high and would get in the zone stropping and just continue stropping in one direction for 5 minutes 🤦🏼‍♂️. 🤣😂

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think many of us have been there 😆

@jdisdetermined

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man.. yeah. You just zone out and start thinking about boobs or beef jerky and lemonade and before you know it you’ve rounded the crap out of your edge and have to go back to the stones. Good times.

@DrBlazer50

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdisdetermined exactly!!! 😆😂🤣

@brianhoffman5367

2 жыл бұрын

Your right about stropping is not for knives but is for razors. Gunny Juice is overpriced by 1000%. It should cost $2.00. I don't know why anyone would use it. Who is selling us on this product?

@michaell397

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianhoffman5367 Nothing could be further from the truth. Even normal alu. oxide compound cost more than you suggest and they don't give away highly graded diamonds. Much less monocrystalline diamonds. Just because they are man made makes no difference other than much higher ability to get a very narrow grit range in the emulsion you want. Of course, there are lower cost although lower quality products available for those such as yourself who really don't know or care what the differences are. If only sharpening lower Hrc steels, or more importantly, lower carbide content steels, you can get by with a simple alu. oxide compound. However, if sharpening such steels as the higher vanadium carbide steels, you are going to want a high quality, well graded in size diamond emulsion. I KnifeMaker

EXCELLENT video. You nailed the terminology and techniques, and gave superb insight into walking the razor's edge between not enough and too much.

Yet another vid I'm saving for reference and reminder, thanks man.👍

Love the juice, this stuff cuts and polishes faster than any other emulsions I've tried. Diamonds do not clump.

@brianhoffman5367

2 жыл бұрын

Not true. 1 micro. Is 1 Micron. It doesn't clump. You have been been sold on lies by Scott so he can charge 1000% more then comparable product.

@jeffhicks8428

Жыл бұрын

@@brianhoffman5367 You are right but 1 micron isnt 1 micron. All these guy fluff their numbers, because thats not how diamond powder works. Diamond powder comes in a distribution. That 1 micron he sold you is probably a mix of everything from 0 up to 2 microns, with the average size being around 1 micron. If he was honest he would say this is a 0 to 2 um distribution. Or this is a 1 um to 3 um. etc. Also most edc bros ain't so bright so they use much finer abrasives than actually makes sense for anything. Something like 3 um on a wood substrate leaves a finer scratch pattern than even

Thank you, Sir for the clinic. I'm starting to get pretty good at sharpening in a short time because of all your advice. Dude we're going to have to start calling you Professor Neeve for now on!!!

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

👊

Very informative video. Thank you for taking the time to put the information together and film it.

Jared thank you for sharing about Gunny Juice. In January I will be ordering stropping/polishing board when order my 3 canisters of BESS media.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

👊 yeah I need get some more as well

Bought some Gunny juice, excellent results. Have used 2 other brand emulsions and the Gunny spreads so much better. Thanks for the recommendation Jared. Love your channel and your knife reviews and associated gear for sharpening.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

🙏

Thank you for the shoutout ❤️ I’m glad you like it brother, it really is great stuff!!

This vid has motivated me to get into stropping. So far I’ve only used a stone and called it a day. Thanks!

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Well then your definitely missing out, knowing how to use a stone is extremely important. But a Strop is almost equally important just in different ways

Appreciate the info/tutorial! I'm definitely going to be more mindful not to overstrop. As always, thank you! ✌️

Great video man, keep up the great work!

I make my own stropps... and for people that don't know is "fluffy" is the suede sibe, and "smooth" side is the finished side. When i make mine I use the same leather, just flip the leather over.

Super helpful video! Thanks for uploading it. Getting ready to try the 6 micron..

Hello Jerad! Might be a bit late, but can you share how you clean these strops for reapplying new diamond compound/paste/sprays?

Glad to see other people are taking a liking to Scott's products.

Just bought Diaspray two days ago. Used diamond pastes and aluminium oxyde in the past. It's crazy good ! I was looking for Gunny juice but only place I found some was Gritomatic, it's not cheap to ship it to Europe ^^

I'm thinking when learning to strop - marking your edge w/ a Sharpie like many do with sharpening would work best to really find your angle? Great tutorials, thanks...

Cool video thanks. I have learned so much from your videos thank you 🙏.

I have a Question, at what micron level should I flip from using the rough *"fuzzy"* side of the leather to the smooth skin side of the leather?

Great video my man very helpful and informative.. your videos have helped me alot with all my knife selections products, and techniques! I have never stroped with a anything but the cheap green compound and now i got all of them ordered from 3 all the way down so i cant wait to see how i do. Watching this video helps me see good techniques! Any advice is always appreciated :)

Hello, which compound microbe would you recommend coming of of a 4K shapton ceramic stone. Please advise. Thank you and great video as always.

Awesome video. Everything i was looking for about gunny juice.

Haven't used any of the diamond compound because I have so much of the regular compounds, wil have to get some to see if there is any difference between them, I imagine if anything the diamonds just work faster. Thanks for the info and the tips Jerad. Keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

They work a bit faster but seem to work better than others because it's so fine that it's very consistent while not scratching like other diamond compounds seem to

Great review. Love the shadow tip. Im using chef knives as a chef just started using work shop ken onion. And using 2 belts to sharpen the knife . Buy the sounds of it you might not be able to answer this question. But for a noob and sharpness only how many times do you pass the knife on the stropp e.g 8 times on each side . As a rough gauge. Many thx

Scott did a great job with that stuff...been using it basically since he released it on open market...I actually use it on my ultra fine stone (Ancient Ocean Jasper made by Gabriel J Warren) when I'm working on Japanese knives and other knives requiring very fine edges...I put it in a dripper bottle to make application a bit easier

I like the fluffy stuff too.😉

You explained the motions a lot better than I did but I tried haha, it’s kind of a difficult thing to explain! I find I get my best results going straight up from the tip, I’ll definitely be trying the reverse J though! Good shit brother! 💯👊🏼

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

The reverse j can be effective at the very tip but is very similar to straight up, depending on the blade shape you get better results

@BLADESANDFADESOFFICIAL

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives well the tip is just as important as the rest of the edge so I’ll be trying it out haha 💪🏼

What two sun knife with the cool thumb stud’s? As far as stropping, I’m always afraid I’m going to ruin my blade.awesome information but it’s seems so advanced for me! Great video!!!

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

That's the ts303, and you won't ruin anything with stropping worst case is your edge won't be as sharp, but I think you will be fine. It's extremely easy to use. Start with some green compound and a sued sided leather strop easy to use and works good

Great video Jared thanks. You should include “ plus stropping techniques” in the video title , because it is vey informative 👍

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was going to but figured the title might be to long

Thank you for a great video! Good information... Is there a reason you do not mention stropping with Basswood?

I notice that I see residual compound on my knife edge. I think I have too much gunny juice . Can I scape it off or just strop and it will thin out by using . TYVM another great video .

That's funny- without any instruction i instinctively found myself doing the reverse J technique with certain blades- especially ones with a large belly. It seems to help me find my angle somehow and make sure the tip gets appropriate attention.

Some very helpful info!!!

Hi, so I see this is a year old now but I'm looking for some advice. I've got a ad20s in m4 and I'm looking for a strop and compounds to maintain the new edge. Would you still recommend these and what microns would you suggest? Thanks in advance 👍

What's the base grit of various naked leather? I haven't seen a comparison of with and without diamond compounds and I'm curious 😅

I just got two sticks if stropping compound from Hutsuls. They say white is 750 grit and green is 3000? I was thinking white was for a finer polish. Would you use white first, then move to green?

Awesome mate 😎🤘🏼

I like ken Schwartz spray bottles but it's pretty expensive compared to this. I ordered one of each from DLT a few days ago, looking forward to trying it out. Have you tried gunny pivot lube? I have some of that coming too

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

No I haven't I've heard that KPL works better but haven't tried. I do really like kpl though

I've always made my own strops . It's amazing how much of a difference stropping makes over just sharpening.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Depending on your stones and progression absolutely,

@jeffhicks8428

Жыл бұрын

I used to think that also. Then I actually got decent at sharpening.

Thank you for saying it. "Over-polishing really isn't a thing but over-stropping is." Finally! Someone who understands. Although, I'm not sure I agree about the "teeth" you're talking about. I've polished edges down to .1µm using diamond lapping film and had zero problems with them becoming "slick" or not "biting". All that happens is that they get better and better at push cutting and maybe less aggressive when "slicing". To me, this is just a difference in application. Axes and saws both cut wood, they just do it in different ways. It doesn't mean that every tooth on a saw shouldn't be sharp AF.

I have the 6k and 8k bark river compound. I love it. I find the 6k is perfect for 3v. Just now getting into gunny juice

@garethbrown8947

2 ай бұрын

What did you find better

What knife were you using there ???? the one with the bolster ???....sure like the looks of it ????? . . . .OnWard......

what different between the micron and which to pick ?

wealth of knowledge !! ty ty

Do you think a diamond stropping fluid is better, worse, or equivalent to lapping films?

From Scott gun the creator himself use a small paint brush to apply it to the smooth finish side of the leather. As soon as it’s dry it’s ready to use

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Nice great tip

Exceptional video. Well done!

Great video...thanks again Jarrod awesome information

Great video brother very informative. Definitely a thumbs up on the like!!👍🇺🇲🤙🇺🇲✌

“as long as you are not poking into the leather” proceed to poke the perfect leather three times 😢my❤dropped

Looks like I need some!!! ✌️

This was very helpful. thank you

Gunny Juice is all I use. Scott Gunn is an amazing human being that stands behind his products. The results speak for themselves. Get Gunny Glide too if you care about your knives.

@partypickle1015

2 жыл бұрын

Gunny glide is OP

Come on man keep this info a secret this stuff is incredible!!

@Mridgwell

2 жыл бұрын

Shout out to Gunny Sharp Talk channel

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

👊

Not cheap, but probably will last a good while! Oh...and, BANG! 🧨 First! 👊

Incredible info as always. Going to get my first strop for Christmas and this tutorial was great. I was wondering what your thoughts are on Alex’s (Outdoors55) strops (knife point gear brand) or would you recommend going in another direction thanks again for all the great info. You’ve taught me so much about knives

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

I have no doubt he has good strops, I think it's good to Tru different things out to see what works best for you, using a Strop can be done in different ways and depending on how your planning to use it depends on the results you will get from a product. You can absolutely get great results using regular green compound and cheap leather for edge Maintenance especially when you know how to use it

@stevestory8483

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives thanks always appreciate your advice:)

Is that better then the dmt diamond spray

What knife do you open this video with?

Iv also noticed if you are stripping at a little to low a angle you will see a lot of your compound on your edge where if you lift up a tiny amount no compound on the edge

What micron should I use?

Fantastic video. Thank you.

This is basically a filtered leftover waste from diamond carbide tool factories. One man's trash is one man's gold. When I lap my fine stones in 1200 grit SIC powder, after it is really broken down, I lay my strops in the left over "juice" and create a very useful polishing strop.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea, I prefer to use diamonds as I mostly use high carbide steels, not that diamond is a must for Stropping like it is for sharpening but I do prefer it, but I do a lot of different steels il have to try that out

@JohnDoe-zb7dz

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives Yes, mostly for polishing but it does have some sharpening properties, just not as good as diamonds. You're a busy man so thank you very much for your response. You are a great asset to the knife sharpening community.

I use Gunny 0.1m to finish on KME Kangaroo strop and its finishes with an amazing mirror polish. Highly recommend.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I like my kangaroo Strop as well

Great video brother

excellent - thank you !

I have a question for you do you think stropping is necessary ? I have tried stropping with little results. I’m sure I need more practice and I don’t have a good strop. I can bring a edge back with a ceramic rod. Should I stick with that or am I missing out. Also I’m not worried about a polished edge. I use my knives a lot and just want them to be as sharp as possible. I really love your channel. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Your absolutely missing out, a Ceramic Rod is great for honing, burr removal and micro beveling, a Strop is great for maintenance and refining an edge and finishing burr removal, but yes you just need some decent leather and compound

@robkeener7740

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives thanks brother. I’m going to order some tonight.

Hahaha your mind is as sharp as a razor! Compound 101 with Jared !😉 have a cracking festive session hopeful you and the other half have a beautiful time and a cracking New Years 🥃🥃😘 ( yeah I know a bit early but I got a brain like a drunken NUN 😂😂) 😘👍

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

😆 🤣

Great tips. I get carried away and over-strop all the time. What knife is that button lock? I missed the review if you did one.

@callyacaos5339

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, the Button Lock knife should be the Twosun TS303, if I am not fooled by my eyes.

@edc4fun

2 жыл бұрын

@@callyacaos5339 you’re right! He did review it too. I’ve got goldfish memory lol. Thanks!

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

I've only done a first impressions it's the twosun ts303

@edc4fun

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives thanks!

Hey Jared, have you seen the kizer ppy? It looks like a knife you would like a lot I'm curious what you would think 🤔

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm hoping to try it soon it looks awesome

I literally just bought this stuff 2 days ago and will be here tomorrow lol. I was going to use the 1 micron on the rough side of the strop and the .25 on the smooth side as always but I guess I was led astray lol. I thought the 2 sides of a strop worked similar to a 1500/3000 grit stone. I start on the rougher side and finish on the fine side Now I gotta get a 2 sided smooth strop lol

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Someone said to apply it on a brush first for the softer side and it works well and I shoulda thought of that, I think you will be fine either way it still works it just absorbed different

Thank you

How is this compared to DBK Compound?

I have a TON of s35vn in all different shapes and sizes (Medford, CRK, Toor, Spyderco, etc) that I need to sharpen or touch up. What micron Gunny Juice, and what angle would you recommend I use for general edc purposes?

@NeevesKnives

Жыл бұрын

The angle would be what ever edge angle is on the knife your touching up, but 6 micron is the best universal grit imo for touch ups etc..

@croom332

Жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives thanks for the quick reply!

I really like the fury stuff to , but I'm old

Your an artist man

How do you fix over stropping

Great video,thank you...

Thank you for the recommendations! I will buy Venev stones and Gunny Juice based on your recommendations. What sizes of Gunny Juice should I get? Using the Venev Ursa stones with up to 1500 FEPA-F. So would I go from 1200 or 1500 to 6 and then 1 microns?

@NeevesKnives

Жыл бұрын

get a 6 which is going to be great for maintenance as well as coming off the stone, 3 then 1. because the 1200 stone is 3 micron so the 6 wont scratch it it will only help in the future get a 12 micron for toothy edges you can get by with the 6 or 3

@Psychonaut999

Жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives thank you, much appreciated!

How often would you say you clean and reapply this compound? And when you do what would you say is the best way to clean it? Also how do you know when its worn out and time to reapply it. How does the longevity of gunny juice compare to other compounds? Thanks

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the compound and leather I'm using, but you clean it when it's built up, you basically just shave a layer off the top and start over

How many passes per side would you recommend for just maintaining a blade you used during the day? Thanks!

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the steel and the use, but 5 to 10 passes per side, maybe a little more, some steel respond better than others so some take more or less

@stevestory8483

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives thanks 🙏🏻

Jared if I just buy one, which micron do you rec?

@NeevesKnives

Жыл бұрын

6

I like his products. They don't seem to last as long as some other compounds for me. I will say if you want a mirror quickly use it wet and boy it'll shine quick

Do you need to clean your stop after so many uses? How? Can you remove the compound and then add a different grit compound on the same leather stop?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you do, depending on what kind of Strop, you can scrape it clean or sand it, but depends on the leather

@carlosrzapata9963

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives I saw on another video that you can use a Magic Eraser to clean your Strop… Sounds like a good idea

One of the top 3 compound I've ever used... 1.) Gunny juice 2.) KME CBN Emulsion 3.) CKTG diamond spray ( Chefs knives to go) Would 100% recommend gunny juice, especially if you're into the high carbide, higher HRC "super" steels. It handled PM-A11 (10V), K390, S110V and Maxamet for me without issue ( I don't have anything, harder to throw at it) .... For the high carbide super'steels above, Ive LOVED the the 9 micron, followed by 3 micron. Very refined yet holds its bite.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it works great with the higher performance steels

@brianhoffman5367

2 жыл бұрын

Gunny juice is good but can't be better. 1 Micron is 1 Micron. All the products you list should cost $2.00 or less. We have been sold.

@davehardan8323

Жыл бұрын

@@brianhoffman5367 so all cars are the same?

@jeffhicks8428

Жыл бұрын

Top 3 Ive used. The same diamond all of these guys buy from the same industrial sources then they resell it to low IQ edc bros for 1000x markups. Here's 50 cents of diamond powder in some terrible carrier we came up with, that'll be $70 please. EDC bros are insane. You could buy enough diamond powder to last a literal lifetime for maybe $10. Could load idk maybe 1000 full sized strops with it, to the max. And once that stuff is loaded, it lasts a very very long time. No clue why EDC bros are obsessed with leather substrates either. They're more expensive and don't work as well. Hmmm, I notice a pattern here.

@jeffhicks8428

Жыл бұрын

@@davehardan8323 50 cents of diamond powder mixed with a carrier of their choosing isn't "a car" genius boy. It's 50 cents of abrasive being sold to idiots for $50.

Hey Jared. 0:14 I was wonder if you could suggest to me on what micron Gunny Juice to buy for my new Strop Bros. Billy Leather Strop… My edc knife steels are as follows . 20CV M390 ELMAX S35VN From everything I’ve been reading, I shouldn’t even bother with the strop compound sticks that come with the strop and just use diamond spray And should I leave one of the side bare? Thanks in advance man! Hope all is well and Sharp in your world 🔪

@NeevesKnives

4 ай бұрын

Get stroppy stuff or gunny juice, 6 micron is most versatile but for factory edge 9 or 12 micron works best

@Crybotenabled

2 ай бұрын

So, the higher the micron the toothier the edge?

@davidwalz94

2 ай бұрын

@@Crybotenabled Yes of course

I got some Flitz, never tried it yet.

@GunnysSharptalk

2 жыл бұрын

Flitz polishes, but it will not give you a sharper edge.

I have the .01um, 25um, 0.50um, 1.0um, and 3.0um. Oddly the .01 ran out but the bottle was low when i received it years ago. But my questions i recently got the 12um & 9um, it wiped right off! Anyone have that issue? It gathered up on my bevels

@NeevesKnives

Жыл бұрын

Shake the bottle up just incase, but apply a super thin layer and make sure its dry before using

Will you be making a video of the Archie 3.0?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

For sure

A timely video with the recent loss of Ken Schwartz, do you have any comments comparing Schwartz and the gunny juice.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried the stuff from Schwartz but I've tried a ton of other stuff and this has been the most impressive, especially as far as polishing goes as far as coarser stuff venev has some very aggressive compounds

Can the juice be used on KME strops?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Couldn’t find on ebay, only some in other countries. Us plebs can’t afford this, can you cover more affordable options?!

Hoooold on what knife is that on the cover shot? Maybe best looking knife I've ever seen

@NeevesKnives

Жыл бұрын

Miguron velona

@davehardan8323

Жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives thanks

Only stuff we use 👌

If you only want to use 1 bottle of this what would the best micron to get?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

6

What is the knife you are using?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

I showed a couple knives but I think your referencing the Twosun ts223

Nice video man. I appreciate the video. If you ever have any questions or anything at all lmk. You can always message me on FB. And I make strops using basswood from Hobby Lobby if anyone was wondering.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome I appreciate that 👊

@GunnysSharptalk

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives anytime. I appreciate the review

1 week later, and the crap I bought off Amazon is still a sticky mess.

Fuck yeah!!!! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

👊

Fluffy stuff aka suede.