I would say the Sonata N hpfp works works well and it should fix problems when tuning

Believe it or not, they scrapped the yearly plate sticker renewal costs here in Toronto AND they scrapped emission testing completely too few years ago too. It used to cost about $120 CAD a year before.

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

I wish they did something like that over here but they are to greedy! You pay all this money for what?! Don’t tell me for making my roads better cause I will show them my video! 😆

@Boosted00

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt lol bro, same shiiz here. Toronto Chicago , same crap man. Roads everything lol. It's weird how Chicago and surrounding neighborhoods look so much like Toronto and suburbs. But anyway, it was odd they scrapped both stickers and emission testing cause both were big money grabs for city and generated alot for " road improvements" and stuff lol. Guess that's why gas prices got taxed hard here and why we pay $1.40 per liter now.

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@Boosted00 they always try to rip you off on everything haha

Lmao @ the emissions mistake 😂. I had a good laugh. I hear you on the plate price here. I'm at $164 for a custom plate. I've heard people talk about the sonata pump. Seems popular. I'm sure some people will chime in. I know for the Evo... the pumps go for around $250ish with the install kits. Thats what I paid. But you're right.... $500ish for a pump seems steep. Unless your going for some big hp numbers/big setup (doubles etc)... Forgot to add. Im sure Hyundai does it to save money. You know how it goes.

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

Yeah man haha I remember every time I was going to buy that stupid plate sticker they asked me to do emission test first, so I did it just in case 😆 This is just a simple hpfp swap I don’t see a reason why it have to cost you 400$ and up 🤷‍♂️ like you said we not going for some crazy fuel system setup here! I know Hyundai like to cut corners on some things so we can get best bang for buck but why older fuel pump is better then new one I have no idea 🤷‍♂️

My OEM hpfp failed in my veloster N which left me stranded with no tunes/upgrades. Went with the upgraded hpfp from n75 because I didn’t want to deal with getting stranded again. Was a straightforward swap, and didn’t need any kind of tunes. Also didn’t go with one off of eBay because I just wanted one I knew was brand new, and would work. Also n75 customer service is quick to reply to questions… asked a few questions through email, and got a response within an hour.

@PolishBullitt

2 ай бұрын

That’s good to know brother thanks for your advice 🙂 sorry to hear you got stranded, cause it’s always sucks even if you 10 miles from home 🫤

From N75 counceling and tuning sessions via EK1 lite, I gotten the 2GTA0 fuel pump. I also installed the Xforce 200cel catted downpipe. Fuel requirement will get more important because you will free up the turbocharger airflow through removing restriction where it counts the most (at the turbine side/behind the turbo). The turbo begins to build boost sooner and more aggressively with the downpipe and the stock fuel pump just cant follow the airflow pushed by the added freeflow of the turbo, it adds up. So get a real 2gta0 fuel pump from the dealership, they are cheaper and you make sure they arent copies (theres a lot of copies around....believe me)

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

Thanks brother, that exactly my point if I go with dp from xforce cause that’s the one Im thinking about I will definitely need a reliable fuel pump, I will actually stop by at the dealer maybe even today and ask them for this pump and how much is it. I really appreciate you info my man 🙂

@lefebvreplourde6793

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt you can rely on me Brother. Im into this community to provide real progressive experience and informations. Best results so far is 12.025@117.9 and 12.048@119.8 stock turbo N75 Motorsport tuned, stock catback, most bolt-ons besides that. No watermeth. Montreal region. Enjoy :)

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@lefebvreplourde6793 that’s great cause we need more people like you to help our community 💪 those pretty impressive times brother, I want to take mine this year maybe get some better tires so I can actually get some decent grip and aim at 12.5-12.7 🙂

@lefebvreplourde6793

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt fell free to contact N75 Motorsport, he's very collaborative and will lead you toward your goals. He's been a part of my success. Im not sponsored or money implicated into this business, just well supported by.

I'll help the chat...Tork MotorSports cut a 2.5T and our 2.0T open and the barrel was 9mm for the 2.5T, ours was 8mm. The HPFP is pretty important, I'm not cutting corners...genuine Hyundai/Mobis part IF and when I go this route💡👈❗️

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

When I watched that video looking at parts number they had a stock one and upgraded one was from 2.0T not 2.5T so idk anymore haha

@gionieves2646

4 ай бұрын

you're wrong... he cut open 2x 2.0T HPFPs. The 9mm was the 2011-2014 Sonata 2.0T pump, second was the VN, EN and KN fuel pump.

@klasseact6663

4 ай бұрын

@@gionieves2646 I must've misremembered that, thank you 😉 Now the question is this...why did they make it smaller for ours? Also...I wonder how big the barrel is on the 2 5T🤔

@gionieves2646

4 ай бұрын

@@klasseact6663 no idea brother. I also haven't seen any documented proof of dyno runs comparing both pumps. I won't be upgrading my KN fuel pump until then. Maybe the cam is different and hits the fuel plunger higher? Maybe the new fuel pump produces more pressure than fuel flow compared to the older one? Not sure until I see true documented dyno comparisons. I have a JB4 on my KN and it works wonders on Map 1 and Map 2 even octane learned which pushes 24 PSI max boost on Map 2.

@klasseact6663

4 ай бұрын

@@gionieves2646 yeah I'm only N75 Stage 1 so I'm good on the standard HPFP

As long as the part number is the same, they are the same. Only difference is the price and the sticker on the side. No doubt they all come from the same OEM. I have the cheap one from Amazon. That with a dump pipe, HKS plugs, full forge intake and a custom tune and got a 25% increase in power and torque.

@Crewonephotography

4 ай бұрын

HPFP part number 353202GTA0

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your insight brother, Im definitely leaning towards that one, but want to listen to what people say because I heard you can get like a fake one or something and I don’t want to me that guy 😆

@Crewonephotography

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt I can't imagine the market for fake, previous model Sonata fuel pumps is big enough to be worth it?

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@Crewonephotography I have no idea brother that what Im trying to find out but some people said that on forums

I have a n75 hpfp in my Veloster N, mainly cause my oem hpfp was dying and I didn't want to be stuck because of it. My n75 hpfp came in a geniune hyundai parts box, with an n75 sticker over the PN and since the box was paper, if I ripped off the sticker, it would have ripped off the information. I would say if your current hpfp is good for your power, I don't think you need to upgrade. However, if you are having issues with it, like power not feeling consistent, I would try to get an upgraded one. If you do remove the filter, just make sure that you put it back together correctly so fuel doesn't leak everywhere and catch fire.

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

Thanks brother good info 🙂 Im gonna stop by at the dealership and ask them about hpfp out of curiosity. So far my pump is working good and no problems but just want to make sure Im on the good side with fuel in case something happens 😉

@aaronluong1898

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt Signs of a bad fuel pump are rough idle, trouble starting, and in the later stages lower redline, no power pass a specific rpm, no boost from the turbo, and just plainly the car not starting

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@aaronluong1898 Im almost 40k miles on my Elantra N and haven’t seen anything like that so I guess Im gucci for now haha

I think the one from shark racing should be a good one and cheaper too so if you are thinking about a down pipe I would just get both of them together and plus is a Korean company so the parts should be legit and not give any issue also it’s a new pump unlike some eBay sellers

@PolishBullitt

2 ай бұрын

Thanks brother I didn’t even check their website 🤦‍♂️ It’s way cheaper 279$ which is slightly more then ebay ones. That make sense not like other guys who charge arm and a leg, I saw same fuel pumps going for 750$ 🤯 I don’t know how they can live with themselves haha

increasing the power numbers with a downpipe or any other part that is seperate from the engine, has nothing to do with your fuel pump. with your tuner that's the deciding factor if you need a HPFP or not. If you were not leaning out during any of your dyno runs, then you have no need for an upgraded fuel pump. Are you still with the Stillen piggyback tuner or are you with a full N75 tune?

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

I see what you say brother and I agree, but even with “opening” your car with exhausts, dp’s and intakes can still change you fuel delivery especially when you car demands more fuel because it detected more air in the system but pump can’t keep up, but I think the real problem that people point out is that the stock hpfp have sudden fuel pressure drops and can’t hold steady flow. Im still with my piggyback from Stillen no real ecu tune yet lol

@gionieves2646

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt I hear you but the issues some are having with the downpipes isn't the overall pressure....it's the change in AFRs which DPs tend to lean out because of the higher flow and faster turbo spool. DPs especially catless ones will really mess with AFRs and can even create turbo surges which can lean out our cars without a proper tune and fuel delivery. I think a DP is one of those parts that on some cars really needs a tune for it. Even the F150 ecoboost tuners recommend a tune with DPs because of what I stated earlier. On my 2006 Evo 9 RS I did the downpipe and had zero issues. It really depends on the car.

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@gionieves2646 yeah like you said it all depends from the car, I guess I might be a guinea pig 😆

@gionieves2646

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt KonaNthusiast had a downpipe on his car and he had the upgraded fuel pump and was running Map 3 and Map 4 but had issues with his injector #1. Now he got it fixed and has made some changes. Check his videos out, he's done some of the same things You've done and want to do with his Kona N.

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@gionieves2646 oh yeah I know who he is, I watch his videos whenever he posts something 🙂

I can’t speak in terms of which fuel pump is better because I just went with the Sonata Mobius one that SXTH Element sells but I will say holy shit the difference is ridiculous. Like once you get it you’ll be like “how did I ever drive with the stock one?”. I currently have full bolt ons and the Lap3 1.5 93 tune.

@PolishBullitt

3 ай бұрын

Really? There’s so much difference in between the two? 🤔

@tonycutillo2512

3 ай бұрын

Yes because once you tune the car and also say you have downpipe, intake etc, the engine is now taking in a lot more air but the stock fuel pump can not deliver enough fuel to properly mix with that amount of air. You actually are not seeing the hp increases you believe the mods and tune are giving you. This is why it’s also a concern that you could lean the air fuel mixture out on the stock pump and damage the engine. Honestly for the money the pump costs just get one of them if you have increases your power because that’s a lot less money than an engine.

@PolishBullitt

3 ай бұрын

@tonycutillo2512 I definitely agree with you, that’s why Im looking at those pump just to have peace of mind. Thanks brother for your input 💪🙂

@tonycutillo2512

3 ай бұрын

No problem. Keep up the channel. I like the perspective and unbiased views you give. I am also just the average guy that enjoys his car. It’s a learning journey as we do these mods.

@PolishBullitt

3 ай бұрын

@tonycutillo2512 thanks brother I will do my best haha learn as you go they say lol 😉

$4 since I'm a Disabled Veteran. $65 for my other 2 cars here in Texas!!

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

Wow that’s crazy, but sorry you hear that you are a Disable Veteran brother 🫡

@gionieves2646

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt oh it's all good! I'm not in a wheelchair or anything like that luckily! I'm glad you made this video. I'm not getting a HPFP until more information is put out and documented. I've seen some people have a few problems swapping out the HPFP and damaging the cam. I think until there are reputable racing fuel pumps out... I'm holding off

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@@gionieves2646 that’s good brother 💪 Yeah Im in the same boat, honestly Im not sure if I need one yet or if I do which one to get you know, I figured this would be a good video and thanks to my friend Roger who gave me the idea maybe we can find something out, maybe more people who run them can give is some insight 🙂

@gionieves2646

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt what tuner or piggyback are you using?

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@gionieves2646 Stillen piggyback 🙂

Shark Racing told me the Chinese are making knock offs. I have to disagree. It's just retailer talk to sell more at higher prices. I bought the ebay HPFP and I assure you, it's legit.

@PolishBullitt

3 ай бұрын

It might be true but you never really know, Im sure if you get a same part number and from a good seller probably around 96-100% you should be fine

@mikeyinid

3 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt there’s always a chance you get burned. When I got the hpfp I compared it to my stock one and the etching and everything matched perfectly. Only difference was the model number. China always manages to mess simple things like that up. My only concern was the pump I ordered from eBay was not new as it was said to be on the sale post. I think what’s going on is they’re pulling them and reselling them. So even though you’re getting a used part it is the desired part. I can say this. Before I installed it I had major fuel cuts and my car cut out really bad. After I installed it I have zero issues.

@PolishBullitt

3 ай бұрын

@mikeyinid I guess we gonna find out haha

Good video Brother!😊 But for me it's an easy decision! (Non of the above) 😅I like my warranty the way it is! I really feel tuning these cars is a waste of time and at the end of the day it's a track car not a straight line car. I am concentrating my time and money on the cosmetics instead. 💯 To register my car for a year in Canada is around $90.00 and we do not use stickers anymore on our license Plates 👍

@klasseact6663

4 ай бұрын

So a little more power doesn't make you faster around the track🤔 What cosmetic mods are you looking at? Btw upgrading the HPFP, especially the Sonata N-line 2.5T isn't going to be noticed by a tech unless they are UBER TECH😇

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

I totally understand brother but they say even for stock application its still a weak point lol 😆 I like to have a bit more power in my car just for fun and little bit of racing and I want to make sure Im good on the fuel side just in case 😉 I know you like to install some nice cosmetic stuff and that great too 💪 90$ is reasonable I remember when we used to pay 100$ but no more 🙁

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

I was looking for that 2.5T fuel pump and I couldn’t find the part number so I can check the price for that one

@N-Krazy1976

4 ай бұрын

@@klasseact6663 I know the upgraded pump looks like the stock one and is in the stock location but at the end of the day your running the pump because you have tuned your car and that 's where your warranty will end if you have something catastrophic happen with your drivetrain Not hating on tuning just saying for me it's not worth it.

@NBABY-J

4 ай бұрын

Lol.. I totally disagree with you. It's lots of fun and no more octane learning. I see you barely drive your car, lol. Why are you making payments on a car that you barely drive? The power and performance you get for minor mods is freaking amazing. I've heard 😅

1000$ in Colorado unless you’re a disabled veteran. Then 0

Why is it half brown

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

Unfinished wrap haha 😆

@user-bj9yb1ym2s

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt ohhh was gonna say that’s odd

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@user-bj9yb1ym2s haha no worries, Im in the process of wrapping it myself but I was really busy for past 2 month plus its winter, plus I have to fix my bumper and rewrap it cause some mora hit my car, it just been a lot of shenanigans lately haha

@user-bj9yb1ym2s

4 ай бұрын

@@PolishBullitt I feel you man! Happens to us all! At the end of the day you have a beautiful car and hey that wrap will be done some day and look exactly how you want it to :)) cheers to you and the beautiful car

@PolishBullitt

4 ай бұрын

@user-bj9yb1ym2s thanks brother appreciate those kind words haha it will be done eventually I can promise you that haha