"Doomsday is attacking a theater showing Batman v Superman!" "It's uninhabited!"

@mertarican5456

2 жыл бұрын

So no one survives there without tools right??

@VuNguyen-bo2cm

2 жыл бұрын

this needs more likes

@edgarallenpo8330

2 жыл бұрын

Its like the vegeta vs goku meme, "lets fight somewhere empty" *fights in a theater showing BvS*

@smoorbb

8 ай бұрын

yeah strewpid bc the ultimate edition wasn’t released it theatres 🤦‍♂️

“The spear, Alfred the spear... it’s pure green apple Jolly Rancher”

@bbriggs7409

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@OTOBIOhazord

3 жыл бұрын

"My God Mr. Bruce.... Eat dat shit!"

@pumpernickelrye9736

3 жыл бұрын

Jolly Ranchers were so beloved on Krypton they mined their planet for their pure goodness to the point Krypton exploded. As a result, Clark enjoyed several years of life on a farm as a jolly (although somewhat moody) rancher. Across the stars, some things never change.

@austin9568AuraMasterDX

3 жыл бұрын

Apple Green=Best Flavor

@elephantpowerproductions

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer Alfred SPHERE If you don’t get that reference, look up Microwave Society’s Veggietales videos

Woman one: "he killed my terrorist husband!" Woman two: "he killed my terrorist husband too!" Woman three: "it could have been worse at least only one man died"

@yoursteak5215

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh he was busy

@Soapy-chan_old

3 жыл бұрын

Hah!

@Ramsey276one

3 жыл бұрын

LOVE THIS XD

@childhoodisthatyou9869

3 жыл бұрын

*The case could be made that Mauler is the worst movie reviewer on KZread and I dont say that lighty.*

@dodojesus4529

3 жыл бұрын

@@childhoodisthatyou9869 copy paste

...oh my god I realized why Batman made it a spear. When Christ died, his side was pierced by the _Spear_ of Longinus. *It's another fucking Christ reference.*

@eyezack2778

3 жыл бұрын

Zack Snyder can't seem to make anything about his movies subtle

@coreyschultz7245

3 жыл бұрын

Longinus?? That can't be a coincidence. So MauLer has killed creativity AND Jesus?! /s

@kasperwozowicz

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreyschultz7245 xDD this is pure gold xD

@dragonknightleader1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Also, when Jesse Eisenberg was trying to quote the Omnipotence paradox, he got it wrong. What he said was, "If God is all powerful, He cannot be all good. If He is all good, he cannot be all powerful." The actual paradox is "If God is all powerful, can he make a rock that He himself cannot lift?" Omnipotence was a measure of how God can have infinite powers, not whether he is infinite in His morality. The implication was His morality or lack thereof was based on His strength. What Jesse Eisenberg is saying in his lines is establishing a link between morality and power that he himself doesn't believe and the two aren't even connected in this movie anyways. The core theme of this entire movie is wrong because of Jesse Eisenberg's reddit atheism. This movie doesn't even get their strawman of religion right!

@davidmeloche3563

3 жыл бұрын

Superman was created with specifically the intention of using Christ and Moses as analogies. This isn't Snyder, it's the created of Superman, Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster.

"There's a lot of drinking." "How else do you put up with everything in this universe?" That is some Muppets-level commentary. In a good way.

@NeSeeger

3 жыл бұрын

so if we ever end up in the DCEU start a brewery of some sort. You will make mint if you survive.

@BaldorfBreakdowns

3 жыл бұрын

Insert the cranky old puppets laughing

@blizzardregulus

3 жыл бұрын

@@NeSeeger Just stay away from Superman and you should be fine.

@kianrodriguez4455

2 жыл бұрын

*Critical Drinker laughs in the background*

@Mcaark

7 ай бұрын

EFAP is the embodiment of Statler and Waldorf.

It pisses me off that Zack Snyder thinks Batman and Superman can’t talk to each other because they wear their costumes.

@mrshmuga9

3 жыл бұрын

Just remember he thinks that’s ridiculous, yet Superman can hear Lois from miles away while she’s *underwater.*

@federicoarmada8775

3 жыл бұрын

*Cries in Daredevil Season 2*

@kingbash6466

3 жыл бұрын

Civil War: BRUH.

@WORSTSUBBER

3 жыл бұрын

This from the guy who directed Watchmen

@TheMemeRepository

3 жыл бұрын

Yet screaming their mother's first name at the top of their lungs in said costumes, totally cool.

I remember a quote from a podcast that said "Every DC movie is a train wreck, but it's a different kind of train wreck each time". I think that's why the movies can be so hard to rank, they are all terrible but in a different way.

@rascoehunter3608

3 жыл бұрын

It really depends on what bothers the viewer the most. Some people think an annoying movie is worse and some people think that a boring movie is worse. For me an annoying movie will always be more bad than a boring movie. A movie being boring could just be a person not getting invested into the movie. A movie being annoying is the greatest sin for cinema because you go to watch a movie for entertainment but instead you get angry and annoyed doing the complete opposite of what movies should do.

@DeepEye1994

3 жыл бұрын

@@rascoehunter3608 I agree with you, boring movies may bore me but then I just move on, whereas annoying films with god awful writing and infuriating character actions just ruin my day and haunt me for a while for how insulting they are. It's like they're going out of their way to be obnoxious and get on your nerves.

@SirIron23

3 жыл бұрын

@@rascoehunter3608 what about a boring and annoying movie

@R34G4N

3 жыл бұрын

god this is so true

@MegaDarkness5000

2 жыл бұрын

@@SirIron23 So Zack Snider's Justice League. (Also I know this old post still wanna give a example)

DC announces J J Abrams for new Superman movie. The fans: Why did you say that name?!!!

@yourarchnemesis8453

3 жыл бұрын

with Ta Nehisi "9/11 first responders are menaces" Coates writing. Yeah not excited about this at all.

@mrshmuga9

3 жыл бұрын

@@yourarchnemesis8453 Just... HOW? How could anyone possibly say that? Do they have a vested interest in those people dying?

@yourarchnemesis8453

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrshmuga9 cuz America racist or something along the lines of that.

@smorre4004

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrshmuga9 Yes. Hollywood was always red.

@mrshmuga9

3 жыл бұрын

@@smorre4004 What's weird is, I'm pretty sure it wasn't home to just one business, but multiple businesses. So it's not like it was specifically taking out people they don't like (not that's better). They're just random people.

Fun Fact: Despite being the main character, Superman has less lines then Lex Luthor and Lois Lane in this film. He's practically a minor character when you account for his screen time too.

@yourarchnemesis8453

3 жыл бұрын

Man Poor Henry Cavill. Imagine getting the role of Superman, and being the one to start this new cinematic universe only to be shafted to the side 2nd movie in.

@jonsimpson6240

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, thats not a bad way of doing a superman story. They do something similar in One Punch Man, and that works pretty well.

@kingbash6466

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonsimpson6240 The difference is that Saitama is actually a well written character.

@thereviewersblock7459

3 жыл бұрын

He’s not even a character, he’s a fucking prop. He has no agency, no motivation, no character, and is used how the plot and other characters want him to be.

@MikeTall88

3 жыл бұрын

@@thereviewersblock7459 He wants to be a hero for fun. He's desperately looking for a challenge. He cares about people. He really cares about sales.

So if combining human DNA with kryptonian DNA makes Doomsday, does that mean if Clark gets Lois pregnant she’ll give birth to another Doomsday?

@zachryder3150

3 жыл бұрын

"SHE'S THE KEY!!!"

@SantosAl

3 жыл бұрын

@@zachryder3150 Holy sheeeeeeet, it all makes sense, the BVS fanboys where right all along.

@canaldecasta

3 жыл бұрын

@@zachryder3150 Oh my god... Imagine the baby doomsday tearing her appart alien-like

@SantosAl

3 жыл бұрын

@@canaldecasta well... Lois had her chance lol

@Onmur

3 жыл бұрын

@@SantosAl Pics of Flash time travelling to tell them they were right all along or it didn't happen.

"The worst part about having a jolly rancher is people expect you to behave as if you don't."

@PViolety

3 жыл бұрын

It’s 🍒

Where did you learn that name? _ON A FARM?!_

@aidanaidan8662

3 жыл бұрын

Martha had her chance!

@rascoehunter3608

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder why is it that DC properties keep spawning new memes for EFAP.

@rascoehunter3608

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite is Whatcha bring me? And a desert eagle can shoot through anything.

@YourPrivateNightmare

3 жыл бұрын

ON A JOLLY RANCH?

@canaldecasta

3 жыл бұрын

@@YourPrivateNightmare they're green now? They' green now

As said by the great Rich Evans, this movie is basically Murder Man vs Captain Hypocrite.

@silent6648

3 жыл бұрын

On top of that, responded back to afterwards by the great Mike Stoklasa, “which one is which?”

@CMCAdvanced

3 жыл бұрын

If we talk about him enough, he might notice EFAP

@puppysect

3 жыл бұрын

Dawn of AIIIIIIDSSS!!

@lucascoval828

3 жыл бұрын

@@CMCAdvanced Cringe.

@CMCAdvanced

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucascoval828 EFAP is a fantastic podcast, very substantial. Mike and Rich would be glad to have them. Jay would be kicked

Gal Gadot/Diana in BvS -- They literally make her Catwoman. From the overly mysterious nature, to her theft and outsmarting/inconveniencing Bruce, to the way she talks to him with all the quips, to the dance, to the "Don't worry, I was just messing with you, I'm on the good side," to the "I'll come help you defeat the bad guys in the end." The whole character is Anne Hathaway from Nolan's TDKR. The only difference is Diana isn't a thief/cat-burglar.

@bob1422

2 жыл бұрын

I learned everything I needed to know about WW from Lynda Carter.

@azh698

2 жыл бұрын

But as we all know, the only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Merryweather, or Ertha Kitt. And I didn't need moulded plastic to improve my physique! Pure. West.

@nananamamana3591

2 жыл бұрын

@@azh698 Haley Berry

@SumDumGy

Жыл бұрын

Sure, she is. That’s the first we see of her, right? She’s there to steal something. Or steal something back.

@SumDumGy

Жыл бұрын

@@nananamamana3591 Something is wrong with your keyboard.

Batman in BvS: if there's one percent chance Superman is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certain... Batman in JL: Let's make zombie Superman, what's the worst that could happen...?

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

It's even funnier since if he knows how Doomsday was made there would be like a 50% chance they just make Doomsday 2 electric boogaloo and he just rolls the dice and hopes for the best.

@johnathonjohnston1598

3 жыл бұрын

He made a lucky call on high or low to his DM

@pdzombie1906

3 жыл бұрын

@@greatclubsandwich5612 People complain on X-Men's movie consistancy, but the DCEU makes far more egregious mistakes on fewer movies... It's definitely Tommy Wiseau kinda funny!!

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

@@pdzombie1906 yeah if he had a star studded cast and millions of dollars to blow on meme worthy nonsense...

@XxVendetaxX1

3 жыл бұрын

Um...BvS and Joss wheadons JL are written and directed by completely different people. You know this right?

Zack Synder- “They couldn't talk it out because of their suits” (???)

@Onmur

3 жыл бұрын

Of course, they're grown men wearing costumes, which is inherently silly, which means nothing has to make sense. That's what they teach in writing logic 101, I think.

@DeusExMau5

3 жыл бұрын

You just don't understand the vision of this genius, he's beyond logic.

@pumpernickelrye9736

3 жыл бұрын

At the same time he has Lex Luther exist and the deepest philosophy he has is turning a painting upside down. I am so curious how this man perceives conversation and intellect to have written this film.

@unpopularopinions7407

3 жыл бұрын

@Patricio That was such a bizarre thing to hear from him. Snyder may be a hack, but he clearly _is_ passionate about his films, so it’s baffling that he’d want to devalue it like that. I almost wonder if there’s more to the quote.

@Knoloaify

3 жыл бұрын

@@pumpernickelrye9736 I'm getting increasingly convinced that Snyder simply has the maturity of an edgy teenager. So dark=mature, costumes=silly, crazy&quirky=cool, overdoing it on the christian imagery=deep, etc.

"Krypton had it's chance" So did fucking earth, apparently

@user-xx6vy9ri8p

3 жыл бұрын

Em...what?

@arkhamwarden1205

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Superman decided that, because Krypton was destroyed, he should destroy it some more via Zod's ship. He treats Earth largely the same.

@user-xx6vy9ri8p

3 жыл бұрын

@@arkhamwarden1205 Em...what? So Superman saving people from cryptonians and other shit doesn't count? You really think he think Earth is not worthy to live?

@arkhamwarden1205

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p He certainly doesn't treat Earth as if he gives a shit about it. In both Man of Steel and BvS, he keeps the fight around a civilian area.The only exception being Doomsday, but even then he only tries throwing him into space once, succeeds, then the Military fuck it up and he never attempts it again.

@dimas3829

3 жыл бұрын

@@arkhamwarden1205 military had it's chance.

Rags' reaction to Wonder Woman appearing is my favorite. "Oh no it's you..."

I don't think any other version of Lex Luther would go straight to blowing up the court. He would use his money to get an all star legal team against Superman and bring in other witnesses like the guy in wheelchair as well as others who probably blame Superman for what happened in Metropolis. Even if Louis managed to show those Africans were killed using Lexcorp bullets, I imagine Lex Luther could claim ignorance or shift the blame. Plus there is still an argument that there are other instances in which Superman's actions have lead to the deaths or injury of others. An actual court case of Superman playing out in this movie could have been interesting to see.

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

Hell he could have brought Bruce Wayne in as a witness, he was there, wouldn't that have been an interesting scene, Batman's alter ego testifying against Sups... A way he could have orchestrated the fight would be to do all that but then pay off the judge to let superman go, pushing Batman to enact his own form of justice where the "proper" routes had failed in his eyes. Boom 2 min, we just wrote a better script than BvS... What Garbijoge.

@canaldecasta

3 жыл бұрын

@@greatclubsandwich5612 Dude that sounds really good. _Reality is often disappointing_

@joaovitorstein4024

3 жыл бұрын

Snyder seems to like journalism too much to ever imply that a corporate suit could manipulate public opnion through the press. How he reconciles his persistent pessimism with this type of idealism is beyond me.

@Onmur

3 жыл бұрын

"Do you think I would be so stupid as to commit a crime using bullets that could be traced back to me, and only to me?"

@allowableman2

3 жыл бұрын

Or hell Lex could be his own lawyer

I just cant stand the fact that Clark and Diana had JUST MET But she calls him by his alien name like she's known him her whole life

@mrshmuga9

3 жыл бұрын

How would she even know his alien name? He’s only referred to as Superman publicly, as far as I recall. And even if it was out there, it doesn’t really make sense to use it over his alias when everyone calls him that.

@joanjorge566

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrshmuga9 I think Zod said his name during his announcement that he’s was hiding among them

@valentinegonsalves7322

3 жыл бұрын

I mean...we hear and see behind the scenes that these studios do have think-tanks and lore experts that help build a story in the writers' room and on set. Star Wars, MCU, WB/DCEU, James Bond, Game of Thrones, name it. But its like they're all on drugs, or work in their sleep or something... I mean then again, we've heard of reshoots and rewrites and studio meddling, and Zack Snyder personally admits he can't take men in costumes seriously, so f*ck it, I'll take ten things I like from ten comics at random and force it all into one movie. And then there's that hilarious clip of JJ Abrams wiping the floor with the lore guys by saying, "Yeah, but its not cool enough. I'm just not feeling it." And Rian Johnson's "Yeah, but people expect that. So I'm just gonna do the opposite, for drama and subversion." Again, no, I don't want a shot for shot recreation, but there's fan-service and rule of cool and your own vision and take; and then there's desecrating the source material like its the bane of creativity, and compromising on quality by forcing things to make sense with contrived rubbish and ret-conning.

@j-psavoie8173

3 жыл бұрын

@@valentinegonsalves7322 Lindybeige made a video about that. He actually met a guy who was a historical consultant on Kingdom of Heavens. At one point he was asked how a standard would have been carried and answered that it was a cavalry standard and that it therefore would not have been in the hands of a footman, but then the people who had asked him shrugged and did not take what he said into consideration. Basically, they have experts so that they can have their names in the credits and pretend that they care about what they have to say; so that they can have an air of credibility and legitimacy.

@fl4shblade

3 жыл бұрын

​@@joanjorge566 exactly, i don't know why ppl are struggling with this. zod announced his kryptonian name to the whole world in his "we have arrived" speech.

Clearly the solution here was to have Rey heal Doomsday's wounded arm, then he would become friendly.

@Ramsey276one

2 жыл бұрын

XD

@johnathonjohnston1598

Жыл бұрын

You know what… when you put it like that, I think you have an actual point here

One of the worst sins of BvS is that it is almost a greatest hits of ruining potential. It fucks up batman vs superman by removing all the context of the fight. In the comics Batman and Superman were friends for years before their fight, in this they are strangers. It ruins Doomsday, one of the few villians that can fight the entire Justice League. It ruins the death of Superman, since the Justice League doesn't even exist yet we don't get to see them mourn his death. It ruins Lex Luthor by making on the most calculating and dangerous villians a wacky pseudo riddler-esque villian.

@Wlof25

3 жыл бұрын

You do realize that there are many versions of the Batman and Superman fights? In some they don't know each other. Why is your appeal to some comics even relevant?

@m.hunterstevie2081

Жыл бұрын

That’s the one thing about fictional characters. You can say that Batman is the world’s greatest detective or that Lex Luthor is the most intelligent and ruthless man on the planet, but ultimately both of them will only be as smart as the writer of the story… and we do know that Zack Snyder is fascinated by shiny and jingly things. He reveres Alan Moore’s Watchmen because there’s a lot of blood and superheroes are having sex… 😒

@the_absurd_hero

10 ай бұрын

Hey, now.. don’t besmirch The Riddler. BvS Lex Luther is Daffy Duck or some other ridiculous cartoon character

You know it's a Man of Steel sequel when the "hero" leads the bad guy into a populated area when they had clear and safer options.

Jesus, Alfred, count the dead. Thousands of people. What's next: _one point two B I L L I O N?_

@TheLevitatingFleem

3 жыл бұрын

i just shat myself reading this dawg

@wheeliebin18

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, now the song's in my head again

19:00 The Ultimate Cut actually adds a plot hole to the already asinine intro by having the CIA monitoring the entire event of Lex's goons killing all the Africans. Yet the CIA never brings that up later in the film.

@Ramsey276one

3 жыл бұрын

WOW THEY ACTUALLY MADE IT WORSE! XD

@eyezack2778

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ramsey276one lmao

@papershadow

3 жыл бұрын

I'm still stuck on how Lois isn't being questioned as a Witness in the incident. Weren't there people who could put her at the scene while not having a vested interest in covering up the story (I would assume the wives of the people killed want their husband's killer caught, whether or not it's specifically Superman)? Does the general public (since the government already has more context as you mentioned) know Superman has anything to do with Lois Lane specifically to like suggest a conflict of interest or something? What if she testifies "these people were killed with fire arms and conventional weapons"? Even if they can't find the Lex bullets, the people would still have bullet wounds, and they could demonstrate that Superman's eye lasers cut through rather than ignite to explain the body burnings.

@EvanSol919

3 жыл бұрын

How about the CIA withholds that information to turn the public against Superman, like in the Cadmus arc of Justice League Unlimited.

@cryojudgement2376

3 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to watch this as I go to sleep and of course I see this and now I have to rethink the entire plot line.

This movie tried so hard to be a huge franchise. And then the 2017 Mummy reboot ended up doing the exact same thing, and look how well that turned out. Moral of the story: Establish a well contained and standalone narrative before going through the franchise route.

@Galvatronover

3 жыл бұрын

The wasted most of their material with bvs I count 3 or 4 storylines including flashpoint, DKR , Death of Superman some justice league tie ins and Wonder Woman

@matthewmuir8884

3 жыл бұрын

And then Amazing Spider-Man tried to do the exact same thing with the exact same writers as the 2017 Mummy reboot, and look how that turned out. How do these studios keep making the exact same mistakes over and over again?!

@Galvatronover

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewmuir8884 because they are stupid and greedy and most of the tiem they think the know better than teh writer

@mattc2306

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewmuir8884 Probably just to ride on the coattails of Marvel's success. Much like how every YA novel adaptation tried to copy what made Twilight successful. Or when The Emoji Movie happened to cash in on the Lego Movie craze...

@matthewmuir8884

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattc2306 I get that, but to the point of hiring writers that already tried it before and failed? Who made that decision?!

I have never heard people mention Wonder Woman's sword could actually cut Doomsday and I am confused why I never do. This is a massive plot oversight by everyone who worked on the movie and I can say 100% Superman died for nothing. Not gonna weep for someone who simps for a woman so hard he would betray humanity and join literally the evilest person in the universe to cause immeasurable suffering on planet if she died though.

@onnixcarmichele3911

3 жыл бұрын

Simperman

@Phoenix0F8

3 жыл бұрын

@@onnixcarmichele3911 Man of Simp

@mickbright8299

3 жыл бұрын

BvS Batman vs. Simp

@unpopularopinions7407

3 жыл бұрын

Someone in the chat said that WW’s sword wouldn’t be able to kill him because he’d instantly heal from any non-Kryptonite-inflicted wound. I have no idea how valid that is but food for thought ig

@andrew_ak2485

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure how relevant it is to the movie, but in the comics Doomsday has ‘reactive adaptation’. Meaning he becomes immune or mutates reactively to the last form of damage he takes. If they really wanted to they could have shown that his cut from WW’s sword Insta-heals and further cuts aren’t possible. But this movie.... you know.

Superman: "Saaave Maaarthaaa" Batman: "WhY Did yoU SaY dAt Naaame?" Lois: "Martha is his mommy name" Batman: "Well that's a weird coincidence... AAARRRG *strikes spear in Superman*" Thanks RLM...

Clancy Brown Luthor: smooth, calculating, cunning Eisenberg Luthor: cringe personified

@samwallaceart288

3 жыл бұрын

Wait JLU Luthor is voiced by Clancy?

@TheMemeRepository

3 жыл бұрын

@@samwallaceart288 He's basically the definitive voice of Lex stretching back to S:TAS. He's also done some animated films and the Lego games.

@samwallaceart288

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMemeRepository I feel similar to how I felt when I realized Mark Hamill’s voice is EVERYWHERE

@valentinegonsalves7322

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah, also Lex isn't a superpowered bad guy. And yet, he's interesting and unfazed, unafraid and unthreatened by Alien God Superman because he knows Clark's "weakness" is his faith in humanity, which is what he exploits. Just that dynamic alone is interesting to look at. Meanwhile current DCEU is, "Heath Ledger Joker was craaaazzzzy and people looooovvved that so lets make evvvvvvery single villain in evvvvery single DC movie just craaazzzzy".

@justinlawliet2136

3 жыл бұрын

I love Clancy Brown's Luthor, he is my favorite Lex Luthor of all time.

I remember a comic where Bruce got Superman's powers, and he was saving people and stopping criminals almost 24/7.

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can see that, but see that's the thing... He actually tries.

@jorgamund07

3 жыл бұрын

Bruce is obsessed with the mission, that makes sense. Superman is actively trying to be a normal human. It's a good character contrast, and there's lots of room to explore the differences between the two heroes' philosophy and humanity. All you need to do is put them in a movie together so you can... oh. Right.

@Zorant0Zero

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but that is because Batman was going crazy becuase it was a monkey's paw type thing that gave him the powers. Just like it made Clark normal but extremely prone to death.

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zorant0Zero I feel like Bruce wouldn't be very different without the monkey paw stuff... Like if you gave him the flashes powers Gotham would be under his total watch 24/7... It's just how his personality is.

@Zorant0Zero

3 жыл бұрын

@@greatclubsandwich5612 The problem was he was doing it sub-optimally along with fighting his own people.

You know what the oldest lie in America is, Senator? It’s that jolly ranchers can be innocent!

@nathanjora7627

3 жыл бұрын

+Innocence doesn’t exist, there are only degrees of culpability+

@kylo-benshapiro687

3 жыл бұрын

It's that ewoks can be Innocent

@canaldecasta

3 жыл бұрын

Ranchers had their chance

@Party_Almsivi

3 жыл бұрын

@@canaldecasta NO! IF YOU THROW DOOMSDAY THROUGH MY CANDY SHOP, YOU DESTROY JOLLY RANCHERS!

@PaxJurassicus

3 жыл бұрын

Jolly ranchers had their chance!

Papa kent did leave kansas. The twister took him to the land of Oz.

@johannesseyfried7933

3 жыл бұрын

Glynda the good Fairy: "You let yourself really go over the years, didn't you, Dorothy?"

@cakepie3484

3 жыл бұрын

I would like this comment, but the fact that it has 69 likes just adds to the shitpost

@Willowy13

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏

I wanna give a ton of credit to the Meme Repository for his MASSIVE work on this long man video and the research he did for us in order to make sense of the crazy stuff happening in this movie. You are the most toxic of the brood, my Ewok.

@denistannenberg

2 жыл бұрын

Truly the best of rats

@denistannenberg

2 жыл бұрын

Truly the best of rats

@amandahuginkys7878

2 жыл бұрын

The spiders have foretold his cooming

What’s funny is that on the Blu-ray cover of the extended cut Wonder Woman is actually in front of Batman and Superman. It makes her look like the star of the movie vs the two titular characters of the movie.

@cryojudgement2376

3 жыл бұрын

I remember buying the blu ray extended cut in 2016 at Walmart for $11 and I've never seen it after like viewing it twice.

@ProjectRedfoot

Жыл бұрын

It looks like Batman and Superman fight over her

Capital-O might be right about it being one of the worst. The central conflict being resolved by Superman saying "Martha" and Batman immediately stops trying to kill him despite having so much motivation up to that point. And not to mention Lex thinks that superman is too dangerous to be kept alive so he somehow creates a mindless unstoppable supermonster, directly contradicting his own motivation in the hardest way conceivable. Was there anything *that* bad in the others?

@Alec11_43

3 жыл бұрын

Regardless, this was supposed to be the big selling point for the dceu as a whole, so failing at this point is pretty consequential.

@defeqel6537

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed. While WW has its share of problems, I do think, up until Ares suits up, it's the better film. (edit: and even after, it has still has decent scenes with Chris Pine)

@Bilbosilius_Zwackelbaggins

3 жыл бұрын

Speaking of "hardest way conceivable": Not only does Batman stop trying to kill Superman, he tells his mum he is a FRIEND of his less than an hour later. On second thought it wasn't the hardest turnaround possible... Batman could have kissed Superman and then told his mother he is a "special" friend of his.

@pumpernickelrye9736

3 жыл бұрын

"Come on. These two having a super serious conversation while wearing silly costumes? It's unrealistic and silly." "Martha!" "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?" But as for motivation it is very weird you have the opening where Bruce sees all the destruction Superman accidently caused and it is never brought up again. Not during the trial and not during their fight where they actually exchange some words.

@panonymousbloom5405

Жыл бұрын

@@Bilbosilius_Zwackelbaggins i would have *loved* that plot though. Hilarious. "*beats the living crap out of Superman* WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!" "It's his mother's name!" "... *Leans down and kisses his still bleeding and bruised face*"

Honestly with the title “Batman V Superman” I would have actually loved it if the movie was more like a court case where Batman challenges Superman on his ideologies, and while he doesn’t agree with everything he stands for, he learns that Superman is an honest person who believes in the best of humanity. I mean it would be a more interesting and unique story than whatever we got now.

@puppysect

3 жыл бұрын

12 angry men, with Bruce Wayne as one of the jurors.

@HSuper_Lee

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but you see, superhero fans only character about violent and over the top action scenes and don't have the patience to sit through character development or serious character driven conflict. Duh.

@isaiahgarraway5568

3 жыл бұрын

It's funny you mention that because DC and Marvel had scenarios where a superhero is fighting a legal battle rather than physical andnits up to the friends to save them. Hell an episode of justice league had a combo of both eith Jon Stewart being framed for blowing up a planet.

@kingbash6466

3 жыл бұрын

@@isaiahgarraway5568 One of my favorite episodes of Batman TAS is “Trial.” The concept of Batman’s villains arguing against him in court sounds kinda silly on paper, but the episode executes it brilliantly, and the ending sticks with me to this very day.

@isaiahgarraway5568

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingbash6466 Its ridiculous that dc has the framework from the animated shows to create an effective DCEU and they just keep fucking it up or disregarding it.

*They thought they were ready.* *They thought they'd already seen the worst.* *They had no idea.*

@annatardlordofderps9181

3 жыл бұрын

And an even more startling thing is even worse is coming down the tunnel. I can see it now and it has the silhouette of a 'J' and 'L'.

@Galvatronover

3 жыл бұрын

@@annatardlordofderps9181 JL ongebone? 😂

I remember in 2 animated series of how Bruce knows Clark's identity. First is he place a small tracker on the cape when they met in a night club by misdirecting Supe's attention . Second is Batman tracking Supe's supersonic speed center of path which is the Daily Planet. And n this version, he does not do any detective research of Clark's identity.

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

You'd think Batman would do the most basic of research into this... Not Zacks batman though, too busy blowing guys the fuck away with Bat Grenades to detect anything.

@MistbornTaylor

3 жыл бұрын

You see that was a cartoon and this is super serious manly man movie where you can’t have two people in costumes talking because that’s just silly.

@williamcronshaw5262

2 жыл бұрын

World's Finest did their first meeting SO much better, it's kind of sad.

@KangarooMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamcronshaw5262 I wasn't a big fan of Lois in it, she herself was fine but the love triangle between her, Batman and Superman was annoying and sounds like something I'm making up.

@williamcronshaw5262

2 жыл бұрын

@@KangarooMonkey Eh, it didn't really bother me that much but I can see why it would bother some people.

44:30 Actually Prisoners have zero tolerance for pedos and child abusers and will actively target those types among their ranks. That type of crime is seen as the worst even for murderers. And there are some instances of prisoners marking pedos to identify them for easy picking. Though Batman branding bad guys is absolutely against character and not even Punisher has pulled a stunt like that before.

@jonsimpson6240

3 жыл бұрын

No point for the punisher to do something like that really...

@rascoehunter3608

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonsimpson6240 because all of his targets dead anyways.

@jonsimpson6240

3 жыл бұрын

@@rascoehunter3608 pretty much.

@petriew2018

3 жыл бұрын

@@rascoehunter3608 which, honestly, is less... morally troubling in a lot of ways. The Punisher takes full responsibility for what he does, agree with it or not he owns what he is. branding someone to let someone else do the actual dirty work is basically refusing to take responsibility for your actions.

@rascoehunter3608

3 жыл бұрын

@@petriew2018 if a criminal survived a Punisher attack he would probably get a lot of street cred now that I think about.

It’s refreshing to hear these major criticisms after the reverence so many have had recently for Snyder’s vision.

Wonder woman’s sword is made out of desert eagles they can shoot through anything Edit: Holy Moly that's a lot of likes. Thanks everyone!

@rascoehunter3608

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder where did she get her new sword from anyway?

@papershadow

3 жыл бұрын

@@rascoehunter3608 perhaps from a FARM?!

@CruelestChris

3 жыл бұрын

@RebootMania Lies everyone knows they are made by Deagle Arms Inc.

Perry White: Why are you talking about Batman? The _baseball game_ is coming out.

@insulttothehumanrace3807

3 жыл бұрын

BASEBALL!!

@williamcronshaw5262

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the movie makes it pretty clear that Batman actually gets plenty of coverage from the newspapers so Clark actually comes off as pretty dumb when he says "why is nobody covering this story."

This just occurred to me... *CLANCY BROWN SHOULDVE PLAYED LEX!!!* He's a physically imposing actor, and has MASSIVE screen presence. Also, in every animated clip they've shown, he was the voice. He should've reprised the role on screen...

@KangarooMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

That would’ve been amazing.

@mateuszmarciniak2828

9 ай бұрын

In a different film with a different writer

@teslawolverine7009

6 ай бұрын

I would have hated that so much

@emmajanepowell3227

2 ай бұрын

I agree however lets keep that idea for a more competent writer.

1:33:45 That's actually kind of close. Lex Luthor feels threatened by Superman. Lex came from nothing and came to own Metropolis. Hell, Lex built most of Metropolis. In the comics, Lex is an unparalleled genuis, wealthy beyond reason, and wields unquestionable authority and respect in every aspect of civilized life in the United States. Then this meathead (compared to him, anyway) Superman comes out of nowhere and suddenly the crowd has a new favorite. Superman saves Metropolis, the world even, all the time, and for all the hard work, the scheming, the wealth, the power, Superman can match Lex's impact by just showing up. Just existing. It drives Lex mad to think about it, and he's an unparalleled genuis, so he's always thinking. Lex's driving force is his egotism and the desire to see Superman humbled before his magnificence. This movie's Lex? Fuck if I know, I think he's got a bit of that but it mainly seems like daddy issues and childhood neglect.

@teo-pc8yx

3 жыл бұрын

Neglect ? Really ? His father was a drunk who beat him that's abuse not neglect also in the movie he's not afraid of him exactly but he just hates him because he is the representation of god in his eyes and he wants to prove that he is better than god and he also wants provi that if god is all powerful then he can't be all good

@GigaChadh976

3 жыл бұрын

@@teo-pc8yx That’s really fucking stupid of a motivation.

Like earth, BvS is uninhabitable.

@Ramsey276one

2 жыл бұрын

69 likes confirmed XD

You know, throughout these reaction videos, I've slowly gotten the idea that Fringy might not the biggest fan of the way Superman has been adapted in the DCEU.

@SouthpawLP

3 жыл бұрын

You think?

@TheRealJabbergeist

3 жыл бұрын

@SunBoxesSky Alois he's mentioned it in passing a few thousand times.

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

DCEU Superman: *Breathes Fringy: * *Noughs in Dingo Wall*

@Destino2493

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not that big a fan of Superman and even I was fucking annoyed at how Snyder portrayed him, Superman is essentially Captain America with super powers he’s not some apathetic, brooding borderline sociopath. And as a huge Batman fan I was and still am fucking furious at what Snyder did to him

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

@@Destino2493 "Show us on the action figure where the bad Snyder touched you Bruce..."

1:40:53 There was nothing to explain to each other in Civil War, all the cards were on the table. Tony understandably didn'd give a shit because BUCKY KILLED HIS MOM. Tony literally responds to Caps pleas that it wasnt bucky with: 'I dont't care, he killed my mom.'

@Hades1100

2 жыл бұрын

It was totally in character for Tony to attack Bucky and in character for Steve to defend Bucky in that instance. Way better character motivation in comparison to this movie

@HeirofDacia

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, back when Marvel movies had at least some quality writing in them.

"So what did you like about the DCEU?" _"I think the Jolly Rancher themes were a great addition but it's disappointing the movies aren't recognized enough for them. 😔"_

@aidanaidan8662

3 жыл бұрын

"Where did you train on a farm?" "A jolly ranch actually"

@yourarchnemesis8453

3 жыл бұрын

we live in a jolly ranch.

@peanutgallery4

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think i've ever seen an italic emoji before.

“What am I doing in Africa?” - Superman

@manyshekkel

3 жыл бұрын

why, did i read this in green goblin voice

@matthiuskoenig3378

3 жыл бұрын

@@manyshekkel what am i doing Africa, Spiderman?

@charlie1234500

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure everyone asks themselves that question at some point in their life.

@lordofthepizzapie9319

3 жыл бұрын

Too bless the rain, obviously.

@haillobster7154

3 жыл бұрын

Looking to commit a hate crime.

DING DING DING THE EFAP'S ARE COMING!

When he was fighting Doomsday, Superman should've said, "where did you train? In an egg?" I wanna watch Civil War again...

A thought occurs: assuming that Doomsday has around the mass of an elephant at most, and that Superman is left floating in low-Gs after the explosion, wouldn't a nuclear explosion at that angle send them both soaring further away from Earth, banishing Doomsday at least into space for the foreseeable future? Whether by Clark or by nuke, he's gone, and the rest of the story didn't need to happen. Instead, Doomsday somehow plummets back to Earth without Clark, barely hurt after a moment to shed his skin. But no, Zack's a great writer, guys. The Snyder cut will redeem this entire "universe".

@parzavaal5335

8 ай бұрын

HAAHAHAHAHAHAH SNYDER CUT WILL REDEEM THIS YEAH BAHAHAH

I love how DCEU shyed away from civilian casualties while the MCU went "a lot of people probably died during these movies. Maybe we can acknowledge this and make it into a story."

@lightofthenightsky13

3 жыл бұрын

"And the dust cleared, and the screaming stopped. It took me two days until I found their bodies. My father still holding my wife and son in his arms... And the Avengers? They went home."

@machine1685

3 жыл бұрын

@@lightofthenightsky13 Zemo was such a good villain

@matthewmuir8884

3 жыл бұрын

@@machine1685 Indeed, he was. Everything DC did wrong with Luthor, Marvel did right with Zemo. Understandable motive, clear goals and a plan that's actually clever, one non-powered man finding a clever way to bring down powered heroes via resourcefulness, etc.

@XxVendetaxX1

3 жыл бұрын

So, superman being blamed for all the lives lost in MOS is just brushed under the rug? Do people actually watch the movies?

@machine1685

3 жыл бұрын

@@XxVendetaxX1 Besides Batman, who blames him? Because they built a monument dedicated to him after MoS, which would be weird to do if people are blaming him for murder. Also I'm talking about how BvS goes out of their way to say where they're fighting is uninhabited.

I like this episode of batwoman but i do miss my Jacob, also how did the black woman become a white male? maybe they'll answer it next episode

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

Man I can't believe they found a worse actor to play Alice... And since when is Luke in the military... At least they got a better theme.

@aaronmueller1560

3 жыл бұрын

Must have been like a season ending special or something, it felt pretty long. Sad to see that another season has likely come to an end. At least they did something with the Kryptonite subplot, though I’m still waiting to see what the hell happened to Kate. Maybe next season?

@yetanotherspuart3993

3 жыл бұрын

@@greatclubsandwich5612 And why at the end is Alice bald? I'm all for ladies doing what they want with their hair, but it was a weird call on the directors part. Oh well.

@MistbornTaylor

3 жыл бұрын

I do appreciate the dramatic increase in the soundtrack.

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

@@yetanotherspuart3993 * *SLAM* "Why'd you shave me!"

God damnit I remember the Jolly Rancher... seriously, what were they thinking?

@arklaw8306

3 жыл бұрын

You just don't understand the theme of control. Lex controls him now, so he accepts the Jolly Rancher. It's like poetry, it rhymes.

@TheLevitatingFleem

3 жыл бұрын

the jolly ranchers control minds bro learn the DCEU lore gosh

@yourarchnemesis8453

3 жыл бұрын

He is simply asserting his dominance.

@tuskinradar8688

3 жыл бұрын

Like, even w Daniel Day Lewis' "i drink your milkshake!" In There Will Be Blood its at least him taking someone else's food. The jolly rancher bit is just bizarre.

"A really half-assed version of Jim Cary's The Riddler..." EXACTLY Southpaw, he should've never been cast as Lex Luther but as the Riddler

@JekPorkbricks

3 жыл бұрын

That's funny, I watched this movie with my dad and he thought Lex was supposed to be The Riddler at first.

@hjalmarwallen443

Жыл бұрын

Wasnt he supposed to be Jimmy Olsen but Zack though he would be a great Lex?

if batman allowed himself to use lethal force, then there's no reason for him not to use guns exactly like a cop or regular vigilante, other than it's cool looking for him to do karate shit. it's necessary to his character to be against lethal force, unless you change his gear to include lethal weapons and turn him into a punisher type dude. otherwise his gear is a contradiction to his character.

@matthewmuir8884

3 жыл бұрын

Not just that but, if Batman is now willing to kill, then what prevented The Joker from being his first victim?

@jarlbalgruuf7701

3 жыл бұрын

And if you make Batman a killer then there’s literally no reason why his villians like the joker are still alive in this universe.

@nont18411

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine how PISSED Jason Todd in the DCEU would be. In the normal DC universe, he might be angry at Bruce because Bruce decided not to kill the Joker but it makes sense because that’s Bruce’s no-killing rule. In this universe, Bruce kills people so Jason Todd would hate Bruce to the core once he finds out that Bruce spared the Joker while being ok with killing the other criminals.

@williamcronshaw5262

2 жыл бұрын

There's another problem with that. A Batman that's fine with killing people and using guns is basically The Punisher in a cowl.

@matthewmuir8884

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamcronshaw5262 There's another problem: there is a name for an older Batman that's willing to use guns and kill people, and that name is *_Thomas_* Wayne. A key part of the Flashpoint storyline was that, in the ruined timeline, Bruce died in the alley while Thomas and Martha lived, resulting in Thomas becoming a broken version of Batman and Martha becoming The Joker. The DCEU was already planning a Flashpoint film around the time of BvS (and they're still trying to make it), and Snyder chose to make his Bruce Wayne indistinguishable from Thomas Wayne.

44:30 So I'm gonna push back a little bit on the idea of criminals killing other, worse criminals being dumb. In real life, it's actually a documented, if somewhat lesser know, phenomenon where criminals convicted of particularly heinous crimes (rape, spree killing, hate crimes, human trafficking), especially against "vulnerable" persons, are treated much more harshly, by both prison staff and other inmates. It's important to remember, and I am by no means a criminal sympathizer here, that not everybody in prison is morally bankrupt. Lots of people make bad decisions out of desperation, and/or while under negative social influences (and drugs), and others turn over a new leaf while imprisoned. The short version is, SOME inmates have moral standards, and they have, in the past, organized the murders of other inmates they consider to be worse than themselves.

@Hades1100

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

The day has come my massives! The spiders fortold the day when the longman and his trusty doggo would face off against Bortman and Soupurmon! Let us watch this clash of titans!

@nillynush4899

3 жыл бұрын

"Tell me, do you bleed?" Only from the eyes and ears, and only during Snyder-verse movies.

@NoPantsBaby

3 жыл бұрын

@@nillynush4899 also when I don't eat enough fiber. It hurts when I push.

@woodwyrm

3 жыл бұрын

TWO TITANS! AS IT WAS WRITTEN!

@BaldorfBreakdowns

3 жыл бұрын

Soupurmon digivolve toooo... Stewpormon!

@rascoehunter3608

3 жыл бұрын

Rich Evans: Captain Hippocrate vs Murder Man. Jay Batman: which ones which?

Zach Snyder doesn't take super heroes seriously, but he is head of the DCEU ...

@capthavic

3 жыл бұрын

That would explain why Marvel is still the winner by a wide margin even at its worst.

@valentinegonsalves7322

3 жыл бұрын

Mate, Snyder literally said that he couldn't take "grown men dressed in costumes" seriously. That's why he has more Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent instead of Batman and Superman even though that's the name of the bloody movie. Also, "I can't take grown men in costumes seriously". Meanwhile, you've got X-Men movies, Deadpool movies, Kick-ass movies, Hellboy movies, V for Vendetta... Even Nolan found a way to negate that (for the most part). Meanwhile Snyder is the guy who made Watchmen, no problem. Wtf?!

@kylefrank638

3 жыл бұрын

I love that bit of audio included here, where he's talking about how Batman and Superman obviously can't talk too much while in costume, or we'll see how ridiculous it is for them to be so serious... so the best alternative, to make us take them seriously, is to just have them beat each other up. So much more mature.

@ShiningSpecks

3 жыл бұрын

Which is funny because he directed 300 where all the Spartans wore no armor and we're super oiled up.

@capthavic

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShiningSpecks Maybe Snyder is more interested in muscular, oiled men...just saying ;3

Before this even starts let us start with the most important line quote of the entirety of the batman cannon "MARTHA!!!!!!!"

@lordofthepizzapie9319

3 жыл бұрын

"WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!!!"

@johnathonjohnston1598

3 жыл бұрын

Then Louis flies in on a helicopter, “THAT’S HIS MOMMY’S NAME!”

@childhoodisthatyou9869

3 жыл бұрын

*The case could be made that Mauler is the worst movie reviewer on KZread and I dont say that lighty.*

@dodojesus4529

3 жыл бұрын

@@childhoodisthatyou9869 copy paste

What’s really sad is Jesse Eisenberg played the perfect Lex Luthor...only problem was he did it in The Social Network and not in this garbage fire.

@Ramsey276one

2 жыл бұрын

Might have to watch that one now... XD

I once pushed a sweet into someone's mouth like that. I still have no idea why?

@eldon9735

3 жыл бұрын

Name checks out

@thunderhammer7

3 жыл бұрын

It was a little boy, wasn't it, Joe?

@mickbright8299

3 жыл бұрын

This comment made my day Mr. President :)

@yourarchnemesis8453

3 жыл бұрын

Quit bombing Syria.

@greymatrix.

3 жыл бұрын

Oh so it's called a "sweet" now is it?

Honestly the movie starts with the dumbest justification. Him lasering terrorists (ALLEGEDLY) is way better than blasting Metropolis with several 911s of damage and death... Ridiculous.

@pdzombie1906

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, casualities after drone attacks on terrorists is like tuesday for the real POTUS....

@childhoodisthatyou9869

3 жыл бұрын

*The case could be made that Mauler is the worst movie reviewer on KZread and I dont say that lighty.*

@dodojesus4529

3 жыл бұрын

@@childhoodisthatyou9869 copy paste

@williamcronshaw5262

2 жыл бұрын

It is kind of dumb, and the Ultimate Edition introduces a bit of a plot hole since the CIA was monitoring the entire situation.

The editor has an amazing voice. We need him in an Efap episode about the dceu eventually.

@etrnl_t

2 жыл бұрын

Well I have a video for you!

I see Batman went to the Jon Snow school of hiding behind rocks as something blasts all the other rocks around them.

As a Christian, I will speak on behalf of my people when I say “This movies “Christian” themes are stupid as hell”. The movie is clearly making fun of Christianity, so the fact that it uses Christian iconography and pretends to hold all this reverence is disgusting. People who aren’t religious will find it hamfisted and dumb, and people who are will find it insulting and dumb. Also as a fan of Superman this movie is the single biggest waste of potential since... well this came out before the squeal trilogy or GOT season 8, so it was just the biggest waste of potential period. The Superman v. Batman comics that inspired this movie was written by a man who hated Superman, the death of Superman and Doomsday were the penultimate Comics to ever exist and it’s just wasted on a third act of this shlock! Next movie they waste the return of Superman and so we have spent the best story line in the DC as a footnote in two of the worst superhero movies of all time!

@asandflavoredpoptart9151

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, as one who also ascribes to the Christian faith, I didn’t think I could roll my eyes any harder during their allusions. Absolutely ridiculous.

@samwallaceart288

3 жыл бұрын

The Christian imagery is bullshit in this.

@petriew2018

3 жыл бұрын

ironically Snyder's a pretty openly religious dude, so i don't think he's intentionally mocking it, this is just what happens when a devout Christian stays 12 years old forever and is then given a bottomless budget to make an action movie...

@conradmills4977

3 жыл бұрын

@@petriew2018 Do I smell a heretic?!?!?! Time to light the pyres.

@nathanjora7627

3 жыл бұрын

Just to get the short version : what’s the eye rolling iconography in BvS ?

Have any of you ever heard of the film _Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole?_ Zach Snyder somehow managed to make an animated kids' film about owls dark, gloomy and incoherent. Why do some people still think he's a good director?!

@ManiacalForeigner

3 жыл бұрын

I remember Wolf talking about how much he despises that movie. Excuse me, there's something in my eye...

@matthewmuir8884

3 жыл бұрын

@@ManiacalForeigner My younger sister read all the books and she loves them; she could not figure out which books Snyder was even adapting (book 1 --> ?) as it strayed that far from the source material, and she kept pointing out the problems that would make it impossible for a sequel to keep adapting the books.

@nont18411

3 жыл бұрын

Because they thought that beautiful visuals = good storytelling

@matthewmuir8884

3 жыл бұрын

@@nont18411 Perhaps the worst part about that is, because it's a Snyder film, you can't even *see* the beautiful visuals half the time (that's what I mean when I say he managed to make a kids' film dark). I bet that I could put some random people in front of a TV that's turned off for 2-and-a-half hours, play some loud noises in the background, and convince them that I just showed them a Snyder movie.

@Alec11_43

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, that was made by him?!

let's gooo Hopefully no copyright issues

@chesterbonaparte6787

3 жыл бұрын

Watch it as soon as, because you know there will be :p

@marcthomas5949

3 жыл бұрын

WB: I WILL FIND THEM !!!!!!

@ballmuncher-hn1fq

3 жыл бұрын

If they take this down we riot

@archstanton9073

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcthomas5949 WB: EFAP HAD ITS CHANCE!

Press F for Jimmy Olsen, forgotten like a wet fart.

"I bet your parents taught you that you mean something " seems like all the defenders of the Martha scene forget that line when they start saying Batman realizes Superman has a mother lol

@Dutch_man20

2 жыл бұрын

Damn, I never even thought about that myself. Now it makes even less sense

I always thought " Why is Batman chasing the truck? He has a tracker on it. He knows where it's going. So why chase after it?"

@ProjectRedfoot

Ай бұрын

So they KNOW they are being followed

Thumbs up for the Prem crew.

@newtondood

3 жыл бұрын

Prem crew gaming

Hats off to Meme Repository for the editing! 👏🏼 Looks great!

So you see, Batman lives in Gothic New york, and Superman lives in Art-deco New york. It's about as bad as trying to reconcile the 30 heroes that live in NYC on the marvel universe.

@Galvatronover

3 жыл бұрын

Let me count them for you Spider-Man the fantastic four daredevil heroes for hire, punisher, moon knight dr strange, avengers , defenders Jessica Jones

So WB wanted a shared universe like the MCU, but didn’t want to put in the time. The irony is that if they had of put the work in they would have caught up with Marvel by now and probably have a better product. Don’t do shortcuts kids.

1:03:40 "seriously, elastagirl, i cant get her out of my head" same.

Lex's line about God is based on Epicurus' Trilemma. _If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful._ _If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good._ _If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?_ It's an interesting thought, but, Zack Snyder ended up making Lex sound like an edgy redditor.

@Party_Almsivi

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, Whence cometh Evil...takes me back about a decade when I was subbed to the The Amazing Atheist and he did a vid all about it...yep...high school...simpler times.

@libertyprime6932

3 жыл бұрын

The problem of evil is internet atheism day one. It's always a cringe thing to say out loud outside of a religious debate.

@Party_Almsivi

3 жыл бұрын

@@libertyprime6932 Yes it is. Which is why it appeals to so many teenagers. They are drawn to cringe.

@Umcarasemvideo

3 жыл бұрын

@@libertyprime6932 Honestly it's kind of cringe in religious debate too. It's the Atheist "Pascal Wager".

@kinglyknight

3 жыл бұрын

...but why Superman... why conflate God an all powerful being who created the universe with the punching alien...

The Chat was the best thing I have experienced about this movie, Martha stuff was just gold, thanks everyone and Meme Repository killed it again with edits.

I have been a fan of DC Comics and Marvel Comics for over 20 years, and these movies are horrific perversions of my childhood heroes!

You know that bad argument of, "And you think you could've done any better?" that gets thrown in response to criticism? I don't know about Batman vs Superman as a whole, but for the fight scene at least, this would be one of the few times I'd respond to that with, "Yeah! Give me the director's chair and I'll give you a better Batman vs Superman fight!" Also, for Batman being the one to rescue Martha, it might've made sense if they had it that Batman or Lois pointed out that Batman can actually break into the place *_stealthily_* and thus avoid them killing her, since Superman is a lot of things but stealthy isn't one of them, but that would also require *Batman then breaking in stealthily,* and instead they went with him brute-forcing his way in because of course they did.

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

Can't alert the guards if there are no guards to alert... * *Cocks Bat Shotgun*

@childhoodisthatyou9869

3 жыл бұрын

*The case could be made that Mauler is the worst movie reviewer on KZread and I dont say that lighty.*

@matthewmuir8884

3 жыл бұрын

@@childhoodisthatyou9869 Two things: 1. What does that have to do with my comment? That is completely unrelated to either I or the previous reply said, so why are you saying that as a reply rather than a separate comment? 2. The case would be wrong. Regardless of your opinion on MauLer as a movie reviewer, there are definitely far worse ones on KZread. That first response is definitely the far more important one to answer, so please don't just respond to the second one.

@petriew2018

3 жыл бұрын

@@childhoodisthatyou9869 I mean, if the case can be made, why didn’t you? But as to the original post : when the answer to ‘could you have done better’ is a resounding yes pretty much no matter whom you’re talking to... yeah, it’s not really a defense, is it?

@matthewmuir8884

3 жыл бұрын

@@petriew2018 Pretty much. I mean, "Could you have done any better?" is almost never a good defense anyways, and it's obviously just meant to accuse the criticizer of being arrogant and not worth listening to, but yeah; it's an especially bad defense when the answer is the answer is a resounding "yes."

If she didn't turn around the jar would the bomb not go off? Would Lex have to run in, pop the jolly ranch, turn the jar, and get out quick smart?

I’m honestly surprised that none of them even pointed out how insane Lex’s plan was. That is one of the worst elements in the entire DCEU

When DC did it better animated...twice.

1:59:05 OK... if Turkish Airlines starts their drink service BEFORE the doors to the plane are even closed... I need to start booking my flights on Turkish Airlines more often...

I feel like Batman is better when not killing to show he goes farther and does more work because he can't take the easy way out. Batman has enough gear to fight people with guns and the skills to win in the end and as soon as he starts killing he will lose public support if we were realistic. The problem isn't just he is killing its that he's just a murderer in many of these and doesn't care if they were hired security or etc etc when moving them down. He can't clean up thr city through taking easy ways out. Batman isn't doing this because legally he can for Christ's sake he's killing people because he's indifferent and that makes him worthless unless we see him get to the point. If he's forced to kill who cares but if he's not then he's really not the hero. Even when its tough not to and when he honestly wants to, he also knows he won't be able to come back when he makes the choice (not being forced to like you guys had a whole debate about which was just stupid Batman is also the greatest detective so if anyone could get out I believe he could) to do so (also not like Batwomen potrayed it). If he kills he loses his V card. Vigilante I mean but there's also the fact about how not only will he slip but ... If batman goes full killing he should be using guns like his edgy dad in Flashpoint but this batman is lame because not only can he not choose between either, he is also really violent when he doesn't have to be. On a meta level he also slips away from being a character worth respecting and being the character people like in the first place. Being rich might even play a part in how he had the opportunity to use his resources to not have to kill when others who lost and didn't have his situation might have gone down a dark path and ended up as criminals. And if someone starts killing people because Batman does it that just creates chaos and vigilantes with hero complexes getting hurt or getting others hurt. I think it also sends a message he could always kill them if he wanted but he can take on fully armed men with just his fists leading more to the fear element and imply the rest yourself, but it just works better than boring dumbass murderer batman.

@user-sd4le2tk1j

3 жыл бұрын

Well I understand, but it's showing that something happened so dramatically to him and I think that was the point of this version and based off of TDKR. I'm not disagreeing completely and I respect your opinion, but that's just my twke

@cameronroy2129

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-sd4le2tk1j more dramatic then the life shaking event that instilled into him his virtues of not killing? You know Batman didn't even kill Joker after he crippled Batgirl and tortured Jason Todd right? ... and also not killing people who don't seem to be criminals? If Batman gave up killed out of anger (probably the Joker) he would retire if anything. The way Batman is as we know him would be on his knees broken and saying he isn't fit before some kind of redemption arc or passing on the cape. If something happened it still doesn't make sense in this movie or in character. None of these characters work ... we have asshole God complex superman, war crime rapist Woman, and old grumpy and defeated batman who has lost pretty much everything interesting or smart about him.

@papershadow

3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronroy2129 Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there an "Old Man Batman" story (I feel like it relates to TDK Returns but I have not read much myself) or several that establish Batman would hang up his cape (or at least pass to a successor) if he reached a point where he could not maintain his code? This as compared to Batman becoming ambivalent to the idea of making decisions that consciously result in death (so I count the "branding" as much as a life taken with his tools/fighting) I think the example given was Batman's health deteriorating to the point that he nearly has a heart attack or something on the job and has to use a gun to avoid dying. I forget if the scenario actually ended with a kill, but the fact that he even had to entertain the notion essentially convinced him "I'm not able to do this 'right' anymore".

@cameronroy2129

3 жыл бұрын

@@papershadow I can't say for sure because I haven't read that but even if it's flawed that's still the ideology that makes Batman ... well .... Batman. You can find it at the core of many of his stories like even if "son of batman" is meh in places I think there's this line that goes "it's not about what's easy, it's about doing whats right because it's right and that's the only reason you need" or something when he has to explain to the poorly potrayed son character in that movie. They of course could contradict this still because he murders some man bats with explosives later not because Batman would do that but because the writing isn't great or else the story would pick up on it. So again Batman wouldn't really get to the murder everyone while they don't pose that much if a threat kind of deal and superman wouldn't be an asshole with a God complex who believes might makes right. Yes sometimes these ideologies can be childish but thats the only thing really making DC characters different than the rest is their complex morality and how heroes need to go above and beyond to do what's right. There's also the Red Hood talk that shows not only is Batman able to go beyond normal humans in a fight even a former Robin (so he doesn't need to use guns to win a fight) and he still won't kill Joker no matter how much it hurts him and others. There's shitty parts of Batman comics as well like how they try to set up all Batmans romantic ventures with his sidekicks because they run out of ideas and its really gross. Batman totally has superpowers if we are honest just not like the other meta humans, he has the peak of what a human mind and body can reach and mastery over so many different fields. To the point compared to a normal human he might as well be super but he achieved it through human means so he's still human.

@ihatecrowbars3572

3 жыл бұрын

No surprise that Batman would just stop caring for killing those people. 20 years of no sign of lower crime rate. Any guy would just give up, especially after most of those around him dying to criminals. And Batman was never supposed to be the hero in this movie, in case you actually thought that lol

How dare you accurately point out Civil War is the superior movie

@Rei_Tatekei

10 ай бұрын

Civil Bore sucks BvS is superior

@grayski3324

9 ай бұрын

@@Rei_Tatekei What? Did you even watch this video? Or even the first 5 minutes?

Me during the whole movie: Superman tell him what’s wrong. Superman don’t threaten him. Batman just talk to him. Superman don’t break his car. Batman use your words. NOT THOSE WORDS! Superman just tell him lex has your mo- Oh Well that was dumb

@GigaChadh976

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I remember commenting on the KZread video “Goddamnit, what the hell is stopping Clark from saying: Bruce, lex has my mother, please help me.

@ihatecrowbars3572

3 жыл бұрын

Superman does try to urge Bruce that there’s no time and it just goes in one bat ear and out the other. And is constantly just using gadgets left and right to try and wear him down. It’s obvious that he won’t listen and doesn’t have time to play the waiting game and decides to show him that it wasn’t a battle worth going through by flying him into a building and saying he’d be dead if he wanted him dead. Plus it’s his mother on the line. At least that’s how I see it

@williamcronshaw5262

2 жыл бұрын

My wife and I both could not stop laughing after the Martha thing.

Am I the only one that think Zack's Batmans blatant disregard for other people's life is MUCH worse than the negligence with Superman fighting Zod? Plus it seemed like DC should have had more films to build up and establish the world. They leaped right near Age of Ultron/Civil War without establishing any of the characters or world.

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

Addressing the second point first, absolutely, blowing your universes "whole party team up to fight big bad comic villain and superman fucking dies" on the SECOND film in the series is retarded. Ruins the whole thing. As for the first point, no I think Batman being a psychopath is not worse than super 911 2: electric boogaloo, the revengence. At most assuming like a thousand people died every night by Batman's hands for 20 years, he wouldn't even come close to Superman's death count in one day. If you want to talk about fucking up his character then sure, I think best Batman is murder-less Batman. But the idea that Batman willfully doing something wrong to criminals (Punisher style) being worse then Superman willfully allowing the greatest disaster in human history to happen out of pure negligence doesn't sit right with me. It's like a person pushing an old lady down the stairs vs watching and allowing 100,000 old ladies fall in front of a train and doing nothing despite being able to save them. Its about scale. I feel like there is a critical mass of collateral damage that a character can accrue before just "sorry I didn't mean for it to happen like this... :(" Just doesn't cut it. Yeah BM is a piece of shit in this movie, but God Damn does SM have blood on his hands. Like Batman believes that he is making the world a better place by killing these guys in an 'Ends justify the Means' kind of way, but superman has just such a flagrant disregard for people's lives in Man of Stism that if he was actually charged, Manslaughter would not begin to describe it.

@ihatecrowbars3572

3 жыл бұрын

@@greatclubsandwich5612 I get why that wouldn’t sit well with you, but Batman isn’t supposed to be the hero of the movie. It’s heavily implied that even he doesn’t agree with himself but keeps pushing that mentality of the lives of criminals mean little to nothing in the grand scheme of things. And for the man of steal I can agree that Zack got lost in the fighting but if he really did try to prevent them from going into big cities, Zod would just come back. It’s clear that he’s just trying to push superman to doing it and will stop at nothing, killing as many civilians as possible. And superman isn’t necessarily fine with getting those people killed as he tries atoning for it in the court room (at least that’s what I picked up from it, please correct me if I’m wrong) and has his opportunity quite literally blown out of his reach.

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

@@ihatecrowbars3572 So firstly I never tried to insinuate Batman as a hero in BVS. As I said he is a murderous piece of shit in BVS working on a consequentialist 'Punisher' style of vigilantism. I don't like how he is portrayed in the film. I think his methods are too brutal and his actions disqualify him as a "Hero". The problem is I think the exact same thing can be said for Superman in the Snyderverse, only worse than Batman. You see Batman at least purposely sets out to do terrible things in the name of some sense of greater good. This makes him more of an anti hero, not good, but also not unredeemably evil. Batman has always walked the line between good and evil... even when he doesn't kill he still severely maims and injures people without any authority or consequence. Therefore the step from hero to antihero is not that large. Superman on the other hand purposely sets out to do good things but due to his gross negligence and incompetency ends up committing the greatest act in negligent manslaughter history has ever seen! His actions lead to the direct deaths of millions of people and yet he faces no consequences and feels no guilt for it. Like I said, Batman at his worse killing 1000 people nightly for 20 years wouldn't even reach Superman's death toll in one day. Now I'm not sure when the last time you saw MoS was but Clark could easily have taken the aliens out of populated areas. the whole "They would just come back" is just straight wrong. The aliens were after Clark specifically, they followed him wherever he went and only engaged with humans when provoked (soldiers, planes, tanks etc...). They didn't just rush head long into the city and start wiping out people at random, they were after Clark, and had Clark simply flown to an open field, they would have followed. Even Zod in the final fight could have been taken to a civilian free zone (The harbor for example) had Clark literally done anything beside rush straight at him. Superman also doesn't go to the court in BVS to 'atone' for anything. He only goes to defend himself from the accusations of immolating some terrorists. He didn't show any signs of guilt from what happened in in MoS in BVS, and in MoS he shows no guilt or shame for the destruction he wrought on Metropolis... He kissed Louis in the midst of a graveyard filled with bodies and death, showed no effort in helping to find survivors or clean up, and by the end showed no guilt when the military wanted to keep tabs on him, self confident in his own righteousness, not even a 'sorry' utters from his lips. Not that any amount of 'Sorry's would make up for the millions of people he got killed, but still. So not only is this such a far removed position from where Superman's character normally sits, its scale is much MUCH more destructive to the actual world (literally) than Batman's. So my stance will not change. I don't care if Batman went from a vigilante hero kneecapping criminals, to a vigilante antihero killing criminals... its not worse than Superman going from a respectable paragon of virtue and heroism, who always does his best, sees the good in people, and cares deeply about his actions and their effects on peoples lives, to an apathetic symbol of destruction and incompetency who brings danger to civilians haphazardly, and whos blunderous mistakes will casually wipe out entire cities, yet will feel no remorse nor guilt so long as he gets some of that Louis poon tang. MoS is garbage.

Where did you get those jolly ranchers? ON A FARM?!

So I like how the movie just glosses over the CIA having aerial thermal footage of their man being shot before they planned to bomb that village so they should also have had footage of Lex’s Mercenaries killing the other people and driving off as they don’t launch the missiles until after that. Also that the movie suggests the problem wasn’t that the terrorists died but it was instead that Superman might have done the killing and that the CIA didn’t get to bomb them and potential witnesses. This movie’s inciting incident is so dumb, they should’ve just had revenge for the Metropolis Apocalypse Incident be it.

That image that went around before sums it all up perfectly MCU: Carefully planning the phases as a team DCU: Throw shit in a blender, turn it on high, turn the lights off

@Wlof25

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call that carefully. Some stand alone movies were either redundant or just made no sense when you think about it, like there were no Avengers when shit hit the fan in Iron Man 3 and Tony Stark was declared dead or missing, neither there were Avengers when shit hit the fan in the Winter Soldier. Captain America was declared as a fugitive and no Tony Stark with his dues ex machina tech to track him down and help? Spiderman was shoehorned in. No establishment of the character, neither we saw that Stark was keeping an eye on him. He was....just there. And if we include Agents of SHIELD into equation (because they are part of the universe) Stark is not knowing anout them, somehow, and they have superheroes of their own which are combat ready and would have been much better choice than some teen who didn't even see real combat. We have movies like Ragnarok which are there just to take Thor's hammer and place him at the certain place. We have movies like age of Ultron which were poorly executed and it was just rushed to move forward....just like that scene with Thor and that cave, which came out of nowhere. And now we have WandaVision been so redundant and unnecessary that burned 225 millions of dollars for the budget....WB spent 300 for shooting a film which is now known as Snydercut, plus the reshooting like 80% of the movie. So on and on.

@Aybrix

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wlof25 That wasn't to say it's all a masterpiece, I was just referring to a funny picture. Point being, MCU has their shit together way better than DC.

I broke my ankle about a month before BvS came out, and seeing BvS in the theater was my first time leaving the house (outside of doctor visits and surgery -- I had to get seven screws in my foot) since the injury... I slapped my forehead so many times during this screening that I worried I would give myself a concussion... Needless to say... a couple more months later (May I think...) Civil War came out and I went and saw it (down to only one crutch at that point) and I remember being SO happy seeing a good superhero film finally!

@Wahba.

3 жыл бұрын

I hope your ankle is fine now

@michaelbarnard3636

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wahba. Thanks! Other than some lasting arthritis issues due to the scar tissue, I'm able to walk, run, and jump again. It's certainly in better shape than the DCEU!!

@papershadow

Ай бұрын

I thought this would be a joke about how BvS taught you to walk again by making you exit the theater. In seriousness though good to hear you enjoyed a better film and have recovered from that injury

Guys, remember when DC fans mocked Marvel fans saying that they couldnt beat BvS with Civil War, that they were fighting a loss battle since the movies would come out close to each other? Hahahaha, good times.

@yarc9

3 жыл бұрын

Civil war sucks

@CarlosThadeu

3 жыл бұрын

@@yarc9 Oh hey, a DC Fanboy hahaha

@yarc9

3 жыл бұрын

@@CarlosThadeu they are both bad movies to begin with i like to watch the Snyder cut Because I’m curious it okay to enjoy bad movies anyways cause people enjoy bad things all the time pretend they enjoy good things

@CarlosThadeu

3 жыл бұрын

@@yarc9 Yeah but the thing is, civil war is not bad LOL Its ok to like bad movies, but Civil War isnt a bad movie...

@yarc9

3 жыл бұрын

@@CarlosThadeu Tom Holland dammit is the worst version of spider man

Yet again, the security on kryptonian ships are atrocious. The AI doesn't just murder Lex for trespassing, it accepts a human as captain because, sure why not lulz. Then, allows him to perform OUTLAWED genetic mutation procedures. The fact you can override it, is bonkers.

Affleck and Irons as Bruce/Batman and Alfred is perfect

@jonsimpson6240

3 жыл бұрын

*could be perfect

@TheSSBBfan666

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonsimpson6240 i'd pay to see a solo movie for their batman and alfred

@tuskinradar8688

3 жыл бұрын

Its so tragic, the casting for Batman and Superman is spot on, but goodness the movies theyre in are garbagio

So let me get this straight, lexs whole plan hinges on using Martha as bait to get Superman to fight but when Superman goes back to lex he calls, hoping to hear Martha was killed while Supermans next to him? As soon as Supes hears his moms dead that’s feee reign to attack lex. What was the plan there?

All the memes that have come from the DCEU arc are definitely top tier

@jaredkalergi5498

3 жыл бұрын

where did you learn those memes? ON A FARM?!

Also, to my knowledge, the reason doomsday is supposed to be so strong is that he can regenerate back from death and his body is adaptive, making him effectively immune to whatever killed him. So shouldn't the zodby have just stood up like a week or so later with partial immunity to kryptonite and immunity to sharp pointy objects? Might have wanted to dump him into space again before ya impaled him just to make sure.

@Hades1100

2 жыл бұрын

He essentially can't be "killed" by the same thing twice because of how quickly he evolved

Tyro moonhopper, if you’re reading this: your comment in the premiere was that WW’s sword can cut, but not kill him. Tell me, if it can “cut” off Doomsday’s arm off, why can it not “cut” off Doomsday’s head? And please dear god don’t say that [the Ogre’s] neck muscles could withstand WW’s sword

@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Now! DD has been Daredevil's nickname since 1967! Call Doomsday something else, like... OCG. "Overblown Computer generation".

@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt

3 жыл бұрын

LOL, thank you! That was a super-edit! (pardon the pun). Well done! 👏

@greatclubsandwich5612

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you train your neck muscles..? ON A FARM?