DroneTag - First FAA approved Remote ID Device
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DroneTag Mini is the first FAA Approved device for Remote ID in the United States. It has also been approved for use in the UK.
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If these RID units get down to $10 in price, I’ll buy a dozen and put one on my car, my mailman’s truck, my neighbor’s dog collar, a tree behind our local police station, several shopping carts and the roof of at least 3 or 4 hotel elevators. 😎
@kelvinamalbert5060
Жыл бұрын
Good idea........🤔
@SupremeVerminAirsoft
Жыл бұрын
I’m going to tape a bunch to some pigeons and scare them off 😂
@slapdat.byteme
Жыл бұрын
@@SupremeVerminAirsoft Great minds think alike
@kf4293
Жыл бұрын
@@SupremeVerminAirsoft I was thinking Canadian Geese, with a little solar panel "backpack" to recharge it and a timer.
@AD-lr2ww
Жыл бұрын
I love this malicious compliance
People understand the whole remote id is dependent on compliance we the people have the right to not comply with this and the whole thing will crash.
@josephhacker6508
Жыл бұрын
@The Untraveled Path good point!
@ChristopherF_1971
Жыл бұрын
Fact
@ChristopherF_1971
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately though there is WAY more money involved behind the scenes with this whole debogle. They will push for even stricter regulations down the road like regulating components and how and who those components can be sold too.
@michaelburke1310
Жыл бұрын
"do not comply" is a moral stance against unreasonable overreach of power and invasion of privacy
There is no requirement for RID in the UK so that approval seems a bit silly. Also, since broadcast RID *modules* aren't legally required on drones in the USA until September 2023 I can't understand why ANYONE would waste their money on one of these things right now. Besides which, all drone operators should remember that the FAA's rules are "regulation by consent" and if I was in the USA, I would withhold my consent for RID because it serves no purpose other than to endanger drone flyers in the era of Karens.
@inspiredartphotos
Жыл бұрын
The FAA fines and violations are not by consent. They operate with Regulation Authority!😡
@xjet
Жыл бұрын
@@inspiredartphotos Unless they have enforcement officers on every street corner then compliance *is* by consent.
This will fail so terribly. No fpv pilots are gonna put this on their drones, especially the pilots that fly mostly on their own property.
@syntaera
Жыл бұрын
Oh it'll be on my drone, one black box with three pretty lights, a battery and some ports in the box holes. Can't promise the circuit board will make it though. Gotta save that weight lol.
@sparrowrr
Жыл бұрын
@@syntaera 😂 we over here in Germany are Taking notes 🌚
We should just troll the FAA, buy a ton of these and leave them all over the place
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
3 big kids flying drones in an airport, driving a police car and talking about Karens tracking drones? Instant classic
@DDsAerialViews
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we really are just big kids. So true!
I think Karens should have remote ID. We could pull up the app and see how many and where they are.
I will NEVER put this on any of my models. And if someone has the audacity to confront me about it, they'll regret it.
@ChristopherF_1971
Жыл бұрын
Same. I fly on our farm and I certainly wouldn't suggest any uninvited guest to show up.
You're totally right. Its NOT our fault. Its pilots like you that forced this. Hovering over kids playing in their bathing suits, posting videos YOU KNOW are against faa p107 guidelines yet you still do, influencing other pilots with ideas to do the same. People like you Ken are the reason. Thanks so much.
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
Most people don't think about children the way you apparently do. Get some counseling.
this was so well made. thank you ken!
Remote ID is only a kick in the nuts to pilots who comply.
@ChristopherF_1971
Жыл бұрын
It's to EVERYONE bud...
@slapdat.byteme
Жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherF_1971 Nope. For the pilots like myself who will fly responsibly without RID-compliant firmware or without a RID module installed, it’s a total non-event.
It is simple people do not comply especially at 300.00 for a GPS...if everyone does not follow these stupid rules there will be no issue.
@slick4922
Жыл бұрын
this is just another way the far left found to exstort more money from hobbiest following the rules
lol the mini3 doesn't need the separate module, dji was overly happy to slap remote ID into firmware, they ran to work that morning
I think the real meaning of this video is to show the FAA just how ridiculous there regulations are.
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
Yuuuuuuup.
Well even if the "hobby" version is more than $10.00 I will be looking for the Government form to fill out where they can cover the cost of the unit. If the government can afford to provide crack pipes and drug use kits they can surely provide remote I.d. for the safety of the airspace.
@ChristopherF_1971
Жыл бұрын
That's a legendary idea!!! Best comment yet!!!!!
Thanks Ken, You made a slow Saturday evening better:)
Aren't the newer DJI drones remote id compliant? I thought they already had remote id built in just need to be activated via update.
Excellent Video. Very Interesting! Thank You Ken, Keith, and Barkley.
This is solid gold! I was laughing the entire time. Informative and also a eye opener on how this tech is developing. Subscribed!
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🤓
Can't wait till someone hacks it and puts gibberish into the stream.
i will never tag my drone
@josephhacker6508
Жыл бұрын
same here
I think the solution to the Karens is to invent the “Invisible Remote Control” then we can sit there and act clueless when the Karen walks over! 😂😂😂
@DroneSyndrome
Жыл бұрын
I’d buy that for a dollar! 👏🏻
@simonelliott5956
Жыл бұрын
Mind control!
@DIY-Morti
Жыл бұрын
Speed it up, Elon! Neuralink when?
@mattdeese298
Жыл бұрын
Genius 😂
Anyone using one of the drone tags should also look into a conceal carry class , a know how to use a pistol, ive been in weird spots without the drone tag , I think it'll get bad , don't give up that info without a way to protect yourself. We're lucky in Tennessee we can now constitutional carry. But many some states aren't as lucky but u recommend the gun safety class regardless
@tompeppint.v.3803
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeezyFPV well , faa claims from the top of a blade of grass to the sky. Unless underr a over pass or in a mall something with. Roof. Faa views then as a unmanned aircraft
@SkyCoreLLC
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeezyFPV I knew I should've put a gun on my drone. I like the way you think.
@SkyCoreLLC
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeezyFPV NY has made everything illegal to the point that they have zero compliance. Them banning of something will probably make people start doing it. And why ban something if no one has ever done it? I'm also not worried about so called felons with guns as much as low IQ gov types with guns.
@cathodd2442
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeezyFPV you know I'd thought about that before. If less than 400 feet is in unregulated airspace, then what happens there doesn't really even fall under the FAA regulatory scope.
So when the FAA gets sued for damages after the first pilot gets put in the hospital or worse. Do you think they will turn off the ground station location? Or will everyone be carrying CCW?
@SkyCoreLLC
Жыл бұрын
We believe that it's so highly likely that one of our drone pilots will be attacked and almost killed because of remote tracking next September that we are already drawing up the lawsuit to follow just in case.
@jeffparisse4202
Жыл бұрын
The drone pilots that use this are tacitly accepting the risk. Don’t us it AT ALL.
@michaelpakadronermike8146
Жыл бұрын
@@SkyCoreLLC I agree. It's just a matter of time.
@clickbaitpolice1750
Жыл бұрын
guys where can I buy a Karen detector @UFO Commander FPV
Thanks for sharing this information.
Great work!!!!!
Does it broadcast a message that says "shooot me"? Might as well.
Does this mean that old aircraft with out electrician systems will also be required to have systems like this?
I'm sure every cop in the area will be sitting there tuned in looking for who's flying a quad, what a pile of garbage, who is going to monitor and enforce this? they're 300 euros........I'll wait and see if I get a fine
@ChristopherF_1971
Жыл бұрын
Fines from what I've heard are pretty steep. I'm not compliant either and never will be. Been flying since the 70's without one incident and will continue doing so. I've worked to hard throughout my life and wrecked my body in the process and ive gotten literally nothing in return except the pennies I get from S.S which can't feed a squirrel. RC piloting has kept my sanity for all those years and I will NEVER give that up just like my rights on the 2nd!!
If you attach this to a mini or mini 2 you have gone over the 249gram limit and have to register drone with the FAA.
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
That's correct.
@embededfabrication4482
Жыл бұрын
no, there is allowance for this extra weight
@adwenb
Жыл бұрын
@@embededfabrication4482 possible but I doubt the FAA is going to raise the weight requirements for sub250 drones.
If the FAA "enforcement" is anything like the FCC, you'd have to really really consistently annoy the wrong person to ever even get any actual attention.
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
True.
OMG KEN, the karen bit is some of your best work yet I swear!!!!
Listen, all the DJI drones are already Remote ID compatible. In fact, instead of relegating us to FRIAs, this could possibly enable BVLOS flights and there even been talk at DJI of eliminating or at least reducing NFZs once Remote ID is implemented. That's gotta count for something...
@slapdat.byteme
Жыл бұрын
It could also geofence you or prevent launch in areas you feel are clearly safe to fly…
I was on Artco’s livestream and was told when I finished with that, Jeff Sills told me I had to watch this video
Does it show up on an ADS-B in receiver like the one in my plane?
That will be great. I can't wait to get speeding tickets from the FAA.
So is remote ID required even on the Mini 3 pro? I've lost track of all the new FAA rules since I have been flying mine.
Yeah I'm not doing this. The FAA I'd completely unhinged these days. Just look how they treated Trent Palmer recently. I think they've been taking lessons from ATF. Just fly safely and covertly
12:33 THIS IS WHY WE LOVE KEN RIGHT ON BROTHER
Eventually only movie studios and networks will be able to fly. All these rules have taken all of my joy. Sold my mavic last year and don’t miss it.
I fly out in BFE Utah where there's no cell service. How would this app/device work in those situations??
Gov over reach!! To much control! Love what u do! We nned to save our hobby!
Thank you, Ken. Great video and excellent facetious look at this new way to screw up a hobby.
Ken I have been looking for information on where I can place lights for night flights on my mini 3 pro. Do you have a video on this or could you make one?
i missed how the app can track the controller, is there gps inside the controller?
Please verify this info Ken. It comes from Drone DJ. “FAA asserts that Remote ID will help law enforcement and other federal agencies find the control station when a drone appears to be flying in an unsafe manner or where it is not allowed to fly. Remote ID will also lay the foundation of the safety and security groundwork needed for more complex drone operations such as Beyond Visual Line of Sight (BVLOS) missions and package deliveries. In addition to the three drones listed above, the seven other DJI drones that have been approved for Remote ID mandate are: DJI Mini 3 Pro DJI Avata DJI Air 2S DJI Mavic 3 DJI Mavic 3 Cine DJI Matrice 30 (M30) DJI Matrice 30 Thermal (M30T) The drone maker says it will provide firmware updates before September 16, 2023, to get most of its modern aircraft ready for Remote ID compliance. However, some older drone models may require a separate, add-on Remote ID module.” It would be great if this was limited to those with a legitimate need to know. We need a group with some teeth to protect our rights. We need a group “Like Gun Owners of America” to sue their asses off!
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
That looks about right.
We will NOT comply! And we have every right to dislike the manufacturers who play the game. As they are only serving to empower the FAA’s ridiculous regulations. All in the name of capitalizing on an available opportunity to make a little money. They are actively hurting the hobby, not helping it!
@FASTFREDDIE-R.C.
Жыл бұрын
👆this
$300 for the module? Id rather pay the fine.
will drone manufactures void your warranty if there is a crash with something like this taped/ attached to your quad ?
Thank you all the information you share. You used Mini 3 Pro for the rext, isn't mini 3 already compliance with remote ID without any attachment?
@mikehays6526
Жыл бұрын
Yes
I just love how Ken makes videos about bad sh*t fun to watch.
Great video. I want to fly with you guys. This was fun!!
Well, at least it keeps our legacy drones alive. Thanks. And with a bit of humor as always.
The one guy was such a good Karen I hated him the rest of the video haha
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
What does the FAA say is the reasoning behind this intrusion?
😂😂freaking Barkley man. Great video Ken 👊🏻👍🏻
The professional operations thing sounds like BS since as I read RID required part107 operators to each have their own unique id and report live the location of the operator and aircraft. This device does not meet the requirements for professional operators I don't think? Please correct me if I am wrong.
That's still huge
I'll put it this way - people better be VERY careful if they decide to approach and confront me in the wild. I don't do very well with Karens.
@harrybainjr7118
Жыл бұрын
Me either
@ChristopherF_1971
Жыл бұрын
Me either. Why I STRICTLY only fly on our farm nowadays. I am not someone who takes likely to my space being invaded. Totally get you.
For those saying it brings the Mini3 Pro over 249g, while yes, you are correct, you do not need the drone tag for it because the Mini 3 Pro is already RemoteID compliant.
@Tangent360
Жыл бұрын
That's fine for the Mini 3 but it still sucks for my Mini 2...
@phoenix3717
Жыл бұрын
@@Tangent360 it's going to suck for anyone that has older outdated stuff or home made.
What camera are you using to film this?
They expect us to pay $300 bucks for that?!?!
@SkyPathProductions
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeezyFPV the rid module is $300.
The only way I would consider this is if there was some give and take. We can legally fly out of LOS if we abide by the monitor, things like that. For the record, I wont be partaking.
@Clickmaster5k
Жыл бұрын
That would be nice. I dont see much give and take in any other similarly banned thing. Looks at firearms? Do any states that require a license allow licensed owners to then purchase machine guns or suppressors? Nope just take take take.
im confused about one thing.... what if you fly indoors? For example, what if you take off indoors of a small business and land indoors and then use that footage for a commercial? do you then fall under all this regulation?
12:19 you said it. Loved the ending. I pop a strobe on my Hubsan Zino Mini SE. When are the FIMI X8 SE's going to be certified?
Question, how you used it, can you explain step by step?
Jobs for the boys.. lets make a harmless hobby with next to no issues have to wear a radio tag like a criminal!!
I need to keep the app open to receive the Drone Tag signal to self-report my flight? It's hard enough keeping DJI's app from crashing after closing all phone apps. This may force us to get another phone.
@DronePsyche
Жыл бұрын
Don’t comply.
I haven't seen you do a video with the Inspire 2 for ages ,have you lost interest in it .
Only $300. My legal drone flights will soon end.
those pin locations are likely the location of the smartphones running the app.
Do we have to get that thing caller ID for your drone now or wait till later can I'm missing Ken don't ID you have to get it now or wait till later
Can you do a breakdown video of the transmission systems per controller? RC N1.. RC SMART CONTROLLER.. RC.... RC PRO... Asking for clarification cause I know the Mavic 3 is Ocusync 3+ but if you use it with an RC N1 it's only Ocusync 2??? Wut Da Hek??? And also the performance difference between the O2, O3 & O3+
Make it bigger and heavier. And make it neon-pink so you can help find it when it creates RF noise that hoses your link.
How do you charge drone tag do u need special charger pleas respond
My skydio 2+ has standard ID builded in. Went to register on FAA site but they will not take serial number oh well did my job lololol guess I don't register it. 🙃
That long number that you see in the Karen app as your device the FAA website does not accept as the drones RI number. Or ID licence plate. Where do you get that number? In the Drone Tag app? It is not the drones actual serial number is it?
Nice, so now my model has a extra $300 piece of electronics to break in a crash
They couldn’t pay me to use this.
Hey Ken, how well does it work if you wrap it up in foam, put it in an antistatic bag, and then wrap _that_ in some gold foil to keep it safe from solar flare damage? Inquiring for a friend.
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@AD-lr2ww
Жыл бұрын
If it is a DJI off-the-shelf drone it will produce a RID error and refuse to take off.
Ken, can you point us to videos showing how to reflash DJI firmware with one of the NoLimitDrones style firmware packages? Thanks! I’d love to see some alt firmware product showdowns so people can make informed decisions.
So.. you could write messages to Karens with the little blue tracky line... or shapes? Like a Etch-A-Sketch?
@NETkid5880
Жыл бұрын
The Toy Story Etch-A-Sketch on steroids!
The great thing about this as opposed to airtags, I can track a person flying a drone so I know they got money I'll be able to steal along with their gear.
@DDsAerialViews
Жыл бұрын
Come on Portal FPV everyone knows drone pilots have no money! They have drones. LOL!
@bugsy742
Жыл бұрын
@@DDsAerialViews 😆🤣🤝😅
@jeffparisse4202
Жыл бұрын
Especially if they are flying FPV alone… One good cross jaw sucker punch and all that gear is yours for the taking.
@bugsy742
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffparisse4202 check Out Jeff flexing 💪🏼👊 😅 I’ll give my exact location mate, I fly fpv alone all the time, come at me bro! 😃🤣
@jeffparisse4202
Жыл бұрын
@@bugsy742 I’ve been assaulted twice. We’re on the same side mate!
I currently use a iPad Mini 5 as my monitor with no cell service because I just don’t need cell connectivity. Will I need to be cell-connected to the internet for a remote ID device to work properly?
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
No. You will not need cellular connection.
I will never put on of those on my drones, in fact I am looking at software to make my drone more stealth!
@josephhacker6508
Жыл бұрын
me too
@ChristopherF_1971
Жыл бұрын
So are lots of others. So please keep this talk to ourselves.
What he said, only after you unboxed it; that's huge! And heavy!
time to start filming from a moving vehicle :)
@jeffparisse4202
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing that for 20 years plus. Harder than it sounds because of eye/ear discordance but a very satisfying and useful skill to develop. I encourage every FPV’er to give it a try.
@wonderbread6100
Жыл бұрын
"oh noooooo sorry sir! my module musta fell off when I was crushing this sick bando!"
I have a Phantom 4 and a mavic air now I have to spend $300 for a stupid remote ID to stick on it. I hate the government!
@davidveatch5145
Жыл бұрын
Phantom 4s dont have any place to put something like this. Even lights mess with the GPS. I had to put them on the legs. Itll have to go under it somehow.
@justinsane7832
Жыл бұрын
Thank ken herron and other youtube idiots for putting a rush on this thing. They have literally posted videos of why the government took actions. Dude is a pedo.
@j.christy8449
Жыл бұрын
@@justinsane7832 Pedo? What's wrong with you. That's a GQP/tRumpanzee line. Why start that here, brah?
@justinsane7832
Жыл бұрын
@@j.christy8449 typical lefty spouting off when they have no clue what they're talking about. Go watch him hover over water, creepily watching kids in bathing suits swimming in a lake at a camp site...brahhhh
Surprised how good this damn video is hahaha😂
I would get mad at the shoe company if they decided to cash in by making a new pair of shoes just to kick you in the nuts.
Why can't they make it like a regular plane transponder? Can karens dial in on airplanes? The whole idea here is to keep the sky safe. That is the bottom line and should be. Weather drones should be put to the same standards as regular planes, the answer is yes. For the safety of all. Not the little toy drones you play with in your back yard at less then 100 feet but for the drones that can go six to eight miles, the ones that can go up well past 400 feet. I am a strong believer in VLOS always. I know that being beyond VLOS is needed and used today and that's ok. Just remember the whole idea was and is to keep everyone safe. Keep up the good work Ken. Your input and knowledge in our hobby and sport is greatly valued and loved. Thank you.
@mikebergman1817
Жыл бұрын
It's not really to keep the sky safe.. It's because they can, and there is revenue in regulating things. If it was really for safety, they would do a non biased, non political study on multirotors and dig into the squeaky clean safety standing that we have. Also, they would be able to see that not everything above 250g is alike. We should not be regulated anywhere close to a commercial workhorse type of multirotor. If they spent the effort to understand that we take the safety side of this far more seriously than they assume, they would find out that it behooves us to be thorough and fly responsibly. Any given time we have $600-1000 in the air, potentially never to be seen again, not to mention the places we like to frequent, to fly. Just my thoughts.
Hey Ken Well I found the first problem is. I have 15 different frames I fly, but only 2 of them will be able to fit this module on to and still be able to fly. Thanks a lot FAA, thanks for KILLING THE HOBBY !
@bugsy742
Жыл бұрын
Bro just fly and forget about all this nonsense 👍🤝😎
@johnwinnard5589
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
Well if it does not show you location but the drones, maybe we need a quick release for the unit, when you see a Karin you fly by the outhouse and let it go. Come find me Karin !
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
💩
That's my go to fly spot.
Damn I guess I’ll have to put drone tag on my Estes rocket armed jets smh 😂
How many crashes can that module take?
The FAA should stick those up…
@Mywhtjp
Жыл бұрын
where the sun DON'T shine.
Why’s everyone getting upset about it? 😅 why are you even bothered about RID? 🤦🏻♂️🤷♂️ just don’t do it!
Ken, I am very confused by this whole Remote id deal. Maybe you can help! I have a Mavic Air 2 and have seen lists that state DJI will issue a Software updated to make this drone remote-id compliant. On the other hand, DJI says that they will not issue an update. Before I send $199.00 on the Drone Tage mini, I would like to hear what you have to say. Thanks.
@KenHeron
11 ай бұрын
DJI RID compatibility: forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=293343&mobile=2
The reason why it is jumping around is because it has a simple GPS antenna that doesn't block multipath (you put it on the bottom to) and has no more accuracy then your phone, 15 to 20 feet, also using Bluetooth as a way to send the location of the device to a nearby cell phone could also effect the accuracy. Another fail by a company trying to do the impossible. Everyone thinks GPS GNSS technology is something that sends a signal back to the satellites, when in fact it is merely a receiver that uses the information sent to it by the satellites and then calculates an autonomous position internally with it's onboard computer. I am a land surveyor and know that in order to get a precise measurement using GPS technology it takes TWO GPS receivers and a modem link between them to know precisely where anything is i.e. RTK. this involves having a powerful UHF Radio or a cell phone connection to link the two, similarly, like the 2400mhz 5800mhz of the Drone to the controller, however there is no GPS receiver in the controller! It is highly unlikely that any company is going to go to that kind of extreme. The device would be to large and to expensive. it is also doubtful that the FCC will ever allow Bluetooth to be more powerful then it is now given the number of Bluetooth devices already being used. I think the way to go is to have a flight controller that has a GPS receiver and either a cell phone sim card or Wi-Fi connection, then the location of the drone and pilot could be sent to the internet and known by others. I look for a smart controller in the future that will solve this issue. I thought it was kinda funny when Ken jumped in the car and started driving down the runway..... um there is no GPS in the controller duh
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.