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If your drone weighs 251 grams and you fly without registration and remote id, the govt and public freaks out. Yet, a 18 year old kid can go out and get his drivers license and then that very day buy a 3000+lb car that does 0-60 in 3 seconds and goes 170+ mph and nobody bats an eye....
@CodElectroYT
Ай бұрын
Actually 250g and up
@MrDecessus
Ай бұрын
No one says humans are rational creatures. Far from it.
This is what bureaucrats do. They spend their sorry lives making the lives of normal people miserable.
@averagefpv9449
Жыл бұрын
You said it correctly!
Unless you're doing part 107 operations, don't register any of your drones. Do not comply with hobby killing regulations
It may be considered a marketing ploy in the US, but it isn't in other parts of the world. We can fly over people and cars, and in controlled airspace with a sub-250 g drone in Canada, as long as we are not wreckless. No need to register a sub-250 g drone and no pilot certificate needed. Also, Transport Canada doesn't differenciate between commercial and recreational flying. Flying is flying, and the airspace authority doesn't make rules outside of its jurisdiction. Drone companies don't build drones just for the US market. Many other countries have very relaxed rules for micro Drone.
@jackmacdonald8499
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification for Canadian rules.
@ogpennywise
11 ай бұрын
He cares not about stuff that counters what he says. What he says is law. Respect it. /s
Removed the FAA registration # and my phone # from all my drones (which are all above 250g). I fly safely and monitor traffic in the airspace around me every time I fly, which is mostly over unpopulated fields, woods and lakes. The FAA can go pound sand.
@scottykardos
Жыл бұрын
Yea I have been flying rc for decades and have hundreds of hours on drones also.....don't have any fcc numbers on my stuff....what are they gonna do throw me in jail ......no they are gonna go do more Important shit. Just stupid.
@silbay
Жыл бұрын
@@scottykardos BTW the FCC rules apply to RC aircraft also not just drones Skippy. SuAS doesn't mean drone!!!
@1Esteband
Жыл бұрын
@@silbay lol you think they don’t know.
@baldskier5530
Жыл бұрын
@@scottykardos I mean, you guys can keep on f-ing around and find out. The likelihood is that nothing will happen but it's like a seat belt, in a way. I'd rather pay a $5 registration and put an ugly sticker on my drone than risk 3 yrs. in jail and $30K-$250K in fines. But, I mean, you do you.... What can they do, right??
Outside the USA, a sub 250g drone does have its advantages. For example, I can fly over uninvolved people and cars! But I can’t fly over crowds. Here in the UK that “marketing” is based on real laws.
I feel sorry for all the young kids flying there birthday toys and getting arrested cause they have no license.
@KenHeron
11 ай бұрын
It's a great way for them to learn how to make prison toilet wine.
250g DOES MATTER. Does not matter when it comes to flying over people, that's true, no matter what the weight. IT DOES MATTER when it comes to remote ID. If it's not necessary to register the drone because of the weight then remote ID is not required. Very significant reason why weight DOES MATTER.
@buckdashe2571
Жыл бұрын
THIS is a good point. If your Mini 2 or 3 is registered, you’ll be required to load it up with a remote idee transmitter, probably bringing it over 250g anyway. Thanks, I’ll reserve registration of my Mini 2. It’s strictly a toy. Now if I go into business, I’ll get the 107 and register THE HEAVY.
@henryjraymondiii961
Жыл бұрын
CORRECT.
@bradleywhais7779
Жыл бұрын
Little 3d printed clip with my ID on it. Take it off my mini 2 when I dont have any attachments XD
@jeremymerrix6236
Жыл бұрын
Faa approved flying over people. Just not flying over in large quantities in crowded places. Same as flying over cars it does not specify trucks or busses nor whether they are parked or traveling. One would assume that substaned assembly of people would be a gathering or group defined as 2 or more within a 10ft radius. Not people walking down a sidewalk 10 or more feet apart. What about flying over house unknowingly with 30+ people inside. Where does this BS stop? I myself am restricting all air operations over my land and will be charging all planes helicopters and birds with trespassing. Oh all flying bugs too. Do I charge the neighbors for their bugs trespassing? Air space is everyone's space not to be regulated over a damn toy . I'll keep my toy under 400ft from launch point and away from airports and stadiums and such and FAA can fuck off. Because I don't see the NFL following FAA guidelines for the football that's flying over large groups of people 🙄
250g is actually only a restriction if you choose to allow it to be one. Another option is to choose to fly responsibly & safely, without registration and without remote ID.
@machinegundroner9411
Жыл бұрын
I agree😁
@Wrang15
Жыл бұрын
And with where I am it's a 3 hour drive one way to the FAA test center. So 6 hours plus fees to fly over remote swamps and woods. It's 2 hours if you call for state police they can't even keep unregistered motor vehicles off roads. Took them 3 months to find a guy that shot 2 state troopers in the woods.
@kf4293
Жыл бұрын
I'm near a busy GA airport, but fly safely and stay outta their way, and nobody cares. The FAA just _had_ to overcomplicate things. I honestly doubt that even 5% of them have a single hour of logged time.
@onebadwolf9123
Жыл бұрын
I obey the Regs. as they are written here. Accordingly, my Phantom, has a takeoff weight of less than 250 grams. The landing weight, is considerably higher though. In a 4 foot hover, after takeoff, I snip the string that attaches the large helium balloon. A video of the scale/snip documents the launch. They can go pound sand. I'm a pilot, I can fly thousands of pounds of metal, over a city, at night, with thousands of sleeping people below, with human passengers, and they are going to tell me I'm not qualified to fly my Phantom? The UAV related fines here, are insane. up to 5K for first offence. There was an idiot a few years back, who recklessly flew his commercially registered Eurocopter, which was overdue on several inspections, legally not airworthy, over an assembly of people @ less than 200 feet AGL, while allegedly impaired. (not proven) For all those violations, he got a 1 month suspension of his licence, and a $750 fine. These UAV Regs, are not about safety. They will continue to enact more stringent laws, requiring less and less capable hardware, that will legally require more and more expense. Like Mode C, on a UAV of less than 250 grams or some crap. They want to kill it as a hobby. They will issue exemptions, if they feel like it, like they do for the police. And the fees. They will go up. CBS will be able to afford it, but the hobbyist wont. I'm just happy the people writing these regs, have no imagination. So many stupid regs. Unlawful to exit, or attempt to exit an aircraft in flight, except for making a parachute descent, or not mounting weapons designed, or adapted for use in warfare to a civil aircraft. A Remington semi auto hunting rifle in each wing would not violate the Regs, as written. They can't help themselves. A licencing inspector onve tried to violate someone, for opening uo their canopy, and tossing out a toilet paper roll, and trying to cut it with the prop as many times as altitude allowed, in uncontrolled, sparsely populated airspace/terrain. When he could not find a suitable reg, he tried to make a littering charge stick. It disappears after the first rain. He failed to make anything stick, but succeeded in making a bit of harmless fun, into something miserable. That's what drives them The idea of anybody getting away with having fun, is just unthinkable.
If you're worried about a flyaway write your name/number on the drone and tell the government to pound sand.
In Canada you DO NOT have to register sub 250 gram drones
register a toy? remote id's? sub 250g? land of the free? nah ill pass
@maphyous228
Жыл бұрын
I’ll get my a license for a sub 250g. When the birds get theirs.
@jnick6
Жыл бұрын
@@maphyous228 hella right.
@jakeyfpv
Жыл бұрын
😂🦅🦅🦅
@loganhouse6984
Жыл бұрын
Amen
“250g is a marketing ploy” - in the US. In the U.K. and europe the rules for drones under 250g are very different
If you don't register them they won't know who to arrest.
Under recreational rules, you don't register every uas. You register once, and that number goes on each.
From what I’ve read, you also don’t need to have remote ID for sub 250g drones as long as you’re flying recreationally. So you get two benefits for sub 250g drone pilots who are doing this as a hobby
Two things that should be clarified. Just because a 107 cert pilot is operating a drone it does not necessarily mean that that drone must be registered - it only depends on the type of operation it's being used for (recreational or commercial). Also, If a sub 250 drone (the Mini 2) is not going to be used for commercial purposes I do not recommend registering it. Once you register your Mini 2 or or Autel Nano+ it will need to RID compliant. If it's not registered it does not need to RID compliant. The Mini 3 Pro (and Mini 3) is on the FAA DEC list (and it has built-in RID already turned on) is because it can potentially be over 250g with the extended battery.
@jayhache5609
Жыл бұрын
So, the Mini 3 Pro will automatically transmit Remote ID info straight out of the box, because of the “potential” to be over 250g? This is the first I’ve heard of this.
That city was hoping that guy didn’t have a license so they could fine him. It’s all about money.
@redhawkdrone3403
11 ай бұрын
That is not the case, the city does not have jurisdiction over airspace and therefore could not fine him.
@davidlejeune4774
10 ай бұрын
I think CT government workers just have nothing better to do lol
@1stAmendmentDrone
10 ай бұрын
@@redhawkdrone3403i like this argument. I’m eventually going to have an issue with a neighbor or another rando calling the cops saying i tried to attack them or their dog or was looking at someone in their window. It’s crucial to have recording always. I have 1.5 hour of flight time. I’m very new here.
someone correct me if i'm wrong, but in the UK at least, and possibly europe, the importance of sub 250 is that you can fly in a lot more places- In the US afaik you just need to register if over 250g, but the areas you can fly are the same for a mini as they are for a matrice
That shiny headed guy sounds like a rule follower that used to get beat up in junior high
The problem with registration, is that by doing that, you're giving away your ownership of your drone. None of you reading this understand this.
@gu9838
Жыл бұрын
true that. and with the digital id thingy the sub 250 gram drone WILL be a good thing lol plus its just smaller!
@thisoldboat7393
10 ай бұрын
It's just like "registering" your vehicle with the state... gives them automatic jurisdiction over you as an "operator".
@NomadicNight
10 ай бұрын
@@thisoldboat7393 Ok, well YOU understand it, but most people don't.
I'm not going to register anything
@jetsetjourneysofficial
Жыл бұрын
you could lose your drone
@dingalarm
Жыл бұрын
Good! 👍👌 I wish you the best of luck in your fight against injustice and over-regulation 👏👏
I fly fixed wing rc; on a fixed location; no fpv equipment on board; line of sight all of the time; wtf do I need a sectional chart for? I'm not going cross country if any pilot thinks of it!
Total gov overreach.
In Serbia sub 250g is not regulated in any way so technically you can fly it anywhere (secton 1 . paragraf 1 of regulation).
There is a big difference in rules for
The sub 250 thing he was referring to is not about having to register, but about qualifying as a category 1 (described under 107.110), which means you can fly directly over people (provided you meet the other requirements). I don't know why people getting this mixed up.
@NomadicNight
10 ай бұрын
People get things mixed up, because the Police here in the UK think they're the only ones who know the law, even when they don't, or misquote it, and so there's confusion from them, as well as the general confusion regarding drones.
I am a Commercial Pilot and Flight Instructor, and Instrument Flight Instructor, and Advanced Ground Instructor. I just received my Part 107 certificate. I am of the understanding that a Part 107 pilot can transition overhead traffic or pedestrians. If overflying pedestrians I believe the prop guards must be in place to overfly people. The "trick questions" are not "tricks", but are rather questions designed to measure one's "understanding" of the subject of the question. Yep... they do require a little more study.
"Your not being tracked" LOL dream on little dreamer.
Over people also means directly over them. The only way you would know is if your camera were pointed directly down all the time. If the camera is pointed out at any angle, and a person is seen, you arent over them. People see a drone in the air, anywhere, and they swear you were 'over' them.
@frankmoreau8847
Жыл бұрын
When a drone is at 50+ feet the illusion gets even worse. I put a drone directly over myself visually, and then panned the camera down to find that I was off by considerable distance. Visually anything within about 5 degrees of vertical appeared to be directly overhead.
I have just been on the FAA Drone Zone to do as you stated, to register my 249g Drone. The website itself states this at the "add device" page: "Recreational flyers must add manufacturer and model information for all UAS over 0.55 pounds that they own and operate." This is 249g which means that the Mavic Mini 1 or 2 does not need to be registered for recreational use.
@buddyadkins2432
Жыл бұрын
That is the way I understand it, however, the flights must not be anything that the FAA would consider to be a Part 107 activity, then it does. So, if you abide by all the other rules, no entity gets any benefit, and you don't use or post the video, then you should be OK. By the way, money doe NOT have to be involved. Even posting a video on KZread promotes one's personal business (their esteem or rating or whatever). This has already been indicated by FAA representatives.
@NomadicNight
10 ай бұрын
@@buddyadkins2432 Yes, we know that, but there's a clear distinction between 'flying for commercial use' and a drone operator flying for a hobby. 'Commercial use' is usually interpreted in the UK to mean as a business for financial gain.
@buddyadkins2432
10 ай бұрын
@@NomadicNight In the USA, the FAA defines commercial use as "In the furtherance of a business". In this case furtherance means any benefit, ANY of any kind even charity, even personal. And business is interpreted to be ANY entity whether a formal business or not. Each person has their own "personal business". Think not, ever hear anyone say "stay out of my business". Posting on YT is in the furtherance (benefit) of the poster's business (promoting one's self). Anything other than just flying for FUN and not posting the video is considered a Part 107 activity. We might not think that it is not right, but it is certainly Real.
@NomadicNight
10 ай бұрын
@@buddyadkins2432 I was only referring to our UK laws, not USA. We have a different flight regulator here, called the CAA, so different rules apply here.
I'm beginning to rethink wanting to get involved with drones. Too much government licenses that can be taken away for BS reasons (and fines too). Also, there seem to be Karens all over the place threatening to narc on anyone flying drones (even legally) around every corner!
@KenHeron
4 ай бұрын
Nah, it's not that bad. Hop in the drone pool... The water is fine!
I mean...sub 250 does exempt the drone from remote ID...so...I'd say that counts as a big deal. Right?
@thomashardy9994
Жыл бұрын
Like politicians, they’ve made that statement and now can’t back away from it.
@CDRaff
Жыл бұрын
Unless you are a Part 107. Then it has to have Remote ID. How my
@glenwhatley7366
Жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous to create legislation when the technology for remote id doesn't even exist. These laws are insane!
@senseisecurityschool9337
Жыл бұрын
@@glenwhatley7366 One the one hand, it sounds ridiculous the way you worded it. On the other hand, Bluetooth dongles and GPS receivers aren't exactly exotic tech. Grab a Bluetooth TTL dongle from Sparkfun for $3, and a GPS from the same site, plug them together and there ya go. Hardly anyone is going to snap those two things together and put them on a drone until after the law is passed. I also appreciate that the rule leaves open other ways to comply - you can do it any way that makes sense for your application, provided the FAA agrees that it meets the requirements. Vs requiring everyone to buy and use one specific product.
I just took the FAA Part 107 (two days ago). In my opinion, they were not "trick" questions but questions to determine if you know truly know the concepts and can extrapolate based on that knowledge. Passed with 'flying colors' but had to work for every point.
The more people comply, the harder the crack down will be.
Rolls eyes on draconian rules that don't actually make people safer.
@jeffs7915
Жыл бұрын
What makes people fly safer?
Yes yes...just register everything ...the government SURELY won't use the information to affect you negatively. Oh no no no. Just comply...it'll alllllll be fine 👀
@ImwillingtakeittothedeathU
Жыл бұрын
😂 you def paying attention Ty 😂😂
@wmnsriteslol
Жыл бұрын
@@TTime685 not me man...regardless of where you stood on the virus...watching how the government moved over the last 3 years shows me exactly what they would do if the shit really hits the fan. Yall can comply. I'm going to do what I always have. Enjoy my hobby responsibly. Stay away from people. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
FFS, all the people that bent over backwards for the government over a hobby/toys. If I have a Cessna flying sub 400 AGL around my area there are bigger issues.
The law enforcement here in Placerville CA have way more important things to do. Sheriff's deputies have pulled up on me flying over construction sites and never gave me any shit ...very polite ...never asked me for ID. They wondered why I was just standing there ....then they figured it out .....politely waited for me to land and we started bullshited about the drones they use. Cool to hang and talk about drone stuff. Nice
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
You're very lucky.
@WavesandFalls
Жыл бұрын
I’m from Placerville. Ponderosa 1990.
Correct me if I am wrong please.....but if you are sub 250, you have to follow all flight rules and restrictions, but do not have to be registered or 107 licensed if flying for fun, correct? That seems like a very important factor to me.
@KenHeron
4 ай бұрын
Correct
@curtisc7846
3 ай бұрын
It's only $5 to register, then you can fly over 250 under recreational
@Aerindelprime
3 ай бұрын
Sure. Once you are licensed.....pretty big hurdle for most people. Not to mention the extreme distaste most people have for 'registering' anything.
The confusion probably comes from the fact that some countries such as mine UK do allow sub 250g drones more freedoms such as flying over uninvolved people etc. Flying over crowds is strictly prohibited here though even for sub 250g drones. I do think sub 250g drones should be encouraged as now the mini 3 is out they strike what i think is a fair compromise between safety and functionality.
@harrisongould9460
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think you’re right. I watch a lot of KZread videos that do come out of Europe and then it even mention that they’re flying over people. That’s why I thought it was relaxed in the states. After I wrote that I went right to the FAA laws, and there it was, no flying over people less you have a category one drone which is only technically available in Japan.
@NightRunner417
Жыл бұрын
I really think they should widen the regulations based on weight class. If I'm gonna get bonked in the head by a drone then I'd damn sure rather it be a Mini 3 (yay, free drone!) than say an Inspire or a Matrice. 🤣
No. I will not register all my drones.
Great vid! Saved for reference later. I totally avoided flying over cars and people but this transit exception will be handy.
That’s crazy. I put videos on KZread of my town’s library and the county judge executive hired me to do a topographic map of a county property Where they are building a new park. I think a lot of it just depends on the concentration of assholes in any particular area.
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
True. The cool people to asshole quotient is a skew in this country. 🤓
@trapperjohn6089
Жыл бұрын
If you go to my channel looking for the one of the Library it’s called safety day I think. The property at the county had me do a topographical survey on coincidentally is the same property from the video on my channel called housefire
@trapperjohn6089
Жыл бұрын
@@KenHeron My county is really nice. It’s Webster county Kentucky, you probably know it. It’s the Walmart dead zone in between Madisonville and Henderson. Come to think of it, I think the reason why my county is so good is because we don’t have a Walmart.
@unmannedaerialoperations9003
Жыл бұрын
@@trapperjohn6089 What does a local government pay for a topo map?
The sub 250g drone thing is real, and makes a big difference in most of the world. In the US, there's no practical benefit to using a sub 250g drone, but that's more due to over-zealousness on the part of FAA regulators, and not a scam by the drone industry. There's a reason that the DJI mini 3 is only now becoming available in the US, when it's been out for months in other countries where it makes a difference.
Under 250g in the United States right now for recreational flyers really doesn’t matter much, BUT once Remote ID comes to pass it definitely will. Remote ID is not required for sub-250g recreational flights. Sub 250 mini drone owners will not need to worry about retrofitting their quad for that purpose in the near future.
@marcoreviews
Жыл бұрын
The 250 grams and part 107 thing are a scam to stop people with learning disabilities to pass the test and make an honest living. Basically it is another tax system that puts more money in the usual peoples pockets. Sad world we live in.
@ae1582
Жыл бұрын
If your worry is about retrofitting a remote-ID hardware module, then sure, sub-250 recreational fliers will be clear. If your worry is about privacy, and the information sharing, I suspect many existing drones will be complying via firmware updates, which will have them sending out Remote-ID data packets all the time, giving away the remote pilot's location, registered or not, regardless of weight.
@marcoreviews
Жыл бұрын
@@ae1582 yes exactly you should always upgrade to the latest and greatest privacy killer update lol 😂! I wish you could just fly with the default software like in the old days. Can’t stand the constant forced updates
@marcoreviews
Жыл бұрын
@@ae1582 yes exactly you should always upgrade to the latest and greatest privacy killer update lol 😂! I wish you could just fly with the default software like in the old days. Can’t stand the constant forced updates !
@JohnCuppi
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I am strongly against the FAA's proposed implementation of Remote ID for those reasons and others. For recreational flyers who don't want to deal with any of that, and care about staying legal or choosing a new drone that doesn't have it installed, under 250g is about to become a huge deal in roughly a year from now. It remains to be seen if DJI or other companies will force FAA-compliant Remote ID via firmware update on their sub-250g drones or not. I don't think they will, but then again, they have AeroScope as it is... Either way, there will be plenty of sub-250g manufacturers who will have zero FAA-Remote ID implementations to pick from.
To be fair Sub 250g matters more in Europe - especially in the UK - which is likely where the myth comes from
So my question is in reference to the upcoming Remote ID requirement. On the FAA's web page for recreational drone flight there's a list of 9 criteria you must follow, number 8 has a note that states that all drones that are required to be registered will also be required to have remote ID. My question is; does that mean if I register my sub-250g drone, will I be required to get remote ID as well?
I just got my first drone (DJI Mini 3) and started familiarizing myself with Transport Canada's drone rules. I was surprised to find that in Canada, from what I can tell so far, you don't need the equivalent of the FAA's part 107 license to use a sub-250g drone for commercial purposes. Honestly, I'm a bit shocked by the number of rules for drones but Canada's rules seem relatively more straightforward than the US'. I'm probably going to end up having to register the Mini 3 and get a RPAS basic operations license since I'd like to use the DJI plus battery for extended flight time and possibly a strobe for night flights or to assist with extending daytime VLOS. Speaking of being prepared, I got the drone on the weekend and still haven't flown the damn thing. I'm sadly one of those read the manual thoroughly, do a bit of research, and plan things out sort of guys lol; I couldn't bring myself to just rush in an fly it. Unfortunately, now it's going to rain for the next couple of days with 60km/h wind gusts. Bah!
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
You're smart to educate yourself thoroughly before flying it. 🇨🇦👍
@rctrix9063
Жыл бұрын
Nobody is going to weigh your drone. Government bodies are predators and you should never obey or be obvious.
@Digitalfiendscom
Жыл бұрын
@@TTime685 Huh? Why would I buy something that doesn't have the feature set I want just because it's my first drone? Maybe if I was 10 it'd be a concern but I'm not and my Mini 3 is still working great and zero crashes so far. Thanks. 👍
So what the FAA says is not the law, this is why we have 3 branches of government, The FAA is trying to make rules and in many cases these are violating a lot of existing laws. So risk vs danger, a 250 gram drone is not the same as a Cessna 172 that weighs 1,669 lbs. saying you did something risky without any injuries, fatalities or property damage is going to be hard sale to any judge or jury. Plenty of drone haters at all levels of the government. Opinions and hysteria are not a good reason to make laws or rules. The data shows drones under 600 grams are extremely safe. We have zero reports of a drone weighing under 600 grams in the USA ever taking down a manned aircraft and zero fatalities as result of an accident between a micro toy drone and real aircraft. So why all the buzz? Greed the federal government wants to cash in and sell your backyard to amazon and google drone delivery. They need remote id to do this because if amazon and google delivery drones start crashing over your kids playing in the back yard they will get shut down very quickly.
@burtpanzer
Жыл бұрын
They already have billions. It's more about restricting our ability to use high altitude surveillance, but yes, nobody asked them to do anything about drones because there's zero need to regulate the hobby.
Gov'ts always try to do this. Remember the "clipper chip" they wanted in all cell phones and computers back in the 90s?
@KenHeron
4 ай бұрын
Oh yeah!
no need to register
I have a question, will lighter than air UAS (less than 250g), like foreign countries like the China’s “weather balloon”, require remote ID?
It’s not a marketing scheme for drones under 250g. It literally says you can be exempt from 107, if you are under specific guidelines.
Yay!!! in the UK we can fly sub 250g over people, traffic and built up areas etc. - just not a "crowd".
Actually in Europe sub 250 is very useful, besides the no license requirement, we are allowed to fly over roads and uninvolved people of courts not groups of people tho
Hey. I was wondering why my mini battery was dropping faster than usual lately. It’s been hot the last while in NJ. I ended up getting another battery. It definitely explains it. Thanks for the content and hard work.
I own several drones now. I just purchased a mini 3 pro and already had to mod it to get rid of that stupid remote id crap. As of right now I only have one drone registered My original Mavic. I don't even fly it anymore. I also have 3 others above the 250g weight I will NOT register them due to the fact of this remote id crap. It's no bodies business knowing where I am at or any other information about me or my drone.
@derp195
Жыл бұрын
Could you please point me in the direction of doing this myself? I’m technologically (software and hardware) capable, yet I’ve been completely unable to find any resources on how this might be done. I’m getting a mini 3 pro in the next few days, but only if I know I can ensure that remote id isn’t forced on me.
I’ve got all my pilots licenses including an ATP. The so-called trick questions were carefully designed to make you fully understand the material instead of just filling the squares for passing the test. Study the material and understand it, instead of studying to pass the test.
That rule only applies to the USA. In some parts of the world, under 250 drones have different flight rules than the larger drones and not just registration.
@mw87
Жыл бұрын
Yes in the Uk CAA rules allow us to fly drones less than 250g over people (not crowds of people) and in urban areas close to buildings with no restriction except restricted airspace such as prisons/airports etc. All you need is a flyer ID marked marked on the drone which requires a fee and passing a simple quiz on the law relating to drones. However, the caveat is that the operator is required to always minimise risks to people and property so you can still be found guilty of flying recklessly if you don’t take account of conditions and modify your flying accordingly.
@FPVenius
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, but they had just previously mentioned something about the FAA, so I thought it was clear in retrospect. Good call out though, in case anyone in another country missed it.
@fastdamo
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that in the UK (and Europe?) 250g was allowed to fly over people. We live in a global information space these days and people seem prone to confusing US and UK laws as many videos, if you do not watch content from that channel often, does not always make clear the country its content refers to. Social media is usually a very unreliable source for facts as opinion is often sold as fact without any reference to where rules and regulations can be found. People like Ken are in short supply as many others will tell you things that are just going to get you in trouble
@koalatails5711
Жыл бұрын
In Australia a hobby flier does not have to be registered, or at a CASA approved field, to use a sub 250g aircraft. They must maintain LOS, & stay (horizontally) 30m away from people, cars, & buildings.
You guys have good chemistry together and I really like this video format!
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Some of the regulations are bullshit and make no sense unless you work for a corporation doing drone deliver or work for NASA or some DoD contractor or something. In the case of most "amateur photographer" types, some of the rules don't make sense, particularly for light sub-250g drones (a ball at the park can have way more force behind it if it accidently hits someone in many circumstances...); its basically a glorified, over engineered tripod. As far as privacy goes, are they going to start auto blurring phone cameras that can now zoom up to 100x, getting a reasonably clear photo of someone up to a mile or more away, like some dystopian Black Mirror episode? Drones are noisy; you won't even know my camera phone was there. That being said, stricter regulations in a densely populated urban area do make sense, and requiring some basic education and training in general is good to filter out some types, but the knee-jerk laws and regulations from some butthurt official are usually just never helpful to anyone except a few people's egos.
Not knowing the FAA rules I post the European rules saying that flying above crowds is prohibited. A "crowd" is a mass of people unable to run away due to the surrounding people. Of course getting close, zooming in and identifying people is prohibited. Filming buildings under construction is no problem. It's rather popular!
I will never register any of my drones and ive been flying since 2017
Its probably someone on city council who just got into drones and their being drone police because they became acquainted with the rules and think they know everything.
Sub 250g is a big deal in other countries like in Canada. Sub 250g is only bound to CAR 900.06 in section IX or the CARs. No registration, no certification, no specific restriction for controlled airspace (though not recommended). NOTAMs, class F restricted still apply though.
@thomashardy9994
Жыл бұрын
It’s a big deal in the USA also with Remote ID around the corner. A few of these guys have been saying sub 250 is no big deal and cannot back away from that statement.
Watching from Canada the amount of freedom and 0 restrictions with our sub 250g drones is crazy. We are so lucky to have the freedom we have. Able to fly over people, cars, roads, and no height or VLOS restrictions. Use common sense and dont be dumb are the only must for sub 250g drones here. I have had my mini for 2 weeks and have been up to 500m 3kms out more then these Americans have for years of owning because they cant well not legally.
@canadiangemstones7636
17 күн бұрын
America regulates featherweight drones... but not machine guns. Madness. 😮😢😮
I'm amazed the city took the time to repeatedly demand proof of his license when they had his first and last name.. Did they really think it was easier to keep asking rather than look up his license themselves on the faa site? LOL
Sectional charts, approach plates, etc. are pretty easy to learn. As an avid flight simmer and member of a virtual airline I learned them on my own .
These towns are out of control. All the government is unfortunately.
I think the FAA testing procedures are totally out of touch with reality. I earned a sport pilot’s license many years ago that was understood to be for my powered parachute. On it was questions about how to land and position a tail dragger airplane correctly for the wind. Another was how airliners vertically space themselves at 25-30 thousand feet, depending on their compass heading. Many such more. That’s like putting questions on a plumbers test concerning what the boiling point of water on Jupiter is. FAA is totally out of touch with reality and too lazy and cheap to hire proper test designers.
I’m so sick and tired of everything being over-regulated. I’ve flown Giant scale RC aircraft for decades. We “policed” ourselves in an effort to prevent these regs from infringing on the hobby. But with all things there are always bad actors that ruin it for everyone else. That famous Shakespeare quote about lawyers comes to mind 🤔
So if you're part 107 you have to register the drone. And if you have to register it, you need remoteID. How do you handle it with a drone like the DJI Mini 2 SE that doesn't support RemoteID? Adding the module costs half again as much as the whole drone.
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@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
I'm in the US.
@zeyadbassiouny8898
Жыл бұрын
@@KenHeron lol same
He would have just better if you just would have not responded to the letters. As soon as you start dealing with idiots you end up with idiot hoop jumping.
This is just another example of government overreach on something they don't like. Afterall, it is Conneticut(SP)
@robertfpv7733
Жыл бұрын
Ha I live it Connecticut lol this is why I don’t post much drone stuff bc Connecticut if full of Karens
Not once did you state the actual benefit of registering. If I lose a drone and want it back, I can just put my phone number on it. Outside of that, you gave zero reasons why it is a benefit to me.
@sollith7482
Жыл бұрын
They did mention it; said something about if they have a flyaway and "if some well intentioned" person wanted to return the drone they found, etc.
@GoatZilla
Жыл бұрын
@@sollith7482 "outside of that"
@dingalarm
Жыл бұрын
@@GoatZilla Indeed, placing a phone number on free flight and RC models was standard practice years ago, way before this silly registration system was introduced.
@MtnManJack
4 ай бұрын
Not benefit of registering. The dude who said “just register everything” is a moron, a government bootlicker.
Any person that uses a drone without knowing the law is basically illegally flying just like it is illegal to drive without your license which it implies you learned the law for driving. The marketing for under 250 grams has nothing to do with illegal flying. All those commercials and descriptions for those drones only say you don't have to register the drone in most countries. That is it. And that idea of registering all drones, I disagree. If you register your drone that is under 250 grams, you will need to follow the remote ID mandate. No thanks
Just register. Compliant people are destined to be ruled by tyrants. Never do anything voluntarily when the government is asking.
@dingalarm
Жыл бұрын
Err... don't you mean "Just *don't* register" ? 🤔🙄
Drones that weigh less than 250 grams and are being used recreationally do not need to comply with Remote ID. All drones that weigh above the threshold and are being used recreationally, however, still need to comply. Drones used by the Federal government are exempted from Remote ID requirements.Aug 29, 2022 (Is this true???) Please confirm.
@rkdbaj
Жыл бұрын
So remote id for us but not them!
Thanks for the info.
I think I got my audio fixed! I think it was a skype problem with it trying to do noise cancellation on its own.
Sub 250 category helps with the ignorance argument in court. I honestly know nothing about the FAA or their rules. I bought my drone on Amazon. Doesn't the faa regulate aircraft? The ones with doors and wheels falling off. Boom no punishment. Unless you fly into an area you shouldn't or disturb aircraft.
the world don't have enough manpower or resources to solve all the murders and catch and properly punish real crime, but sure let's go after some flying toys, "do not comply" i believe is a moral stance against overreach of power, as long as you aren't endangering people or property it shouldn't be a big deal
A year later... And i still cant figure out why a 5k-$500k car requires a 36$ fee for a license... But a 200-1200$ drone license costs 175$ for the equivalent of permission to upload footage by a third party no less😂😂😂 And even then you can still get charged or "fee'd" for something trivial.
@KenHeron
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
Might be correct for US, but not for us in Europe. Here it's an absolute gamechanger regulationwise !
@qb4hkm
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, in EU sub 250 needs only that operator is registered and then operator number is put on a drone. You can fly above cars, people(not crowds) etc.
@alanreid250
Жыл бұрын
@@qb4hkm UK....You do not need to register if the drone or model aircraft you'll fly is one of the following: a toy below 250g or in C0 class. C0 class with no camera, whether it's a toy or not. below 250g with no camera and no class mark, whether it's a toy or not.
The best thing about the sub 250gram drones.... it's good to take out of the country. Many countries will allow you to fly these Mini Drones in there country if under Sub 250 because it bypases the registration of that country. Mexico and Greece have been the two that has helped me.
$5 isn't my hangup on registering a drone. Its Remote ID. My question is if I register my sub 250 gram drone and non part 107, then dosent that set me up for having to add remote id to my sub 250 Drone??
@joehobo2189
2 ай бұрын
I'm a firm believer in doing the min the law requires.
Great show Ken. Thanks for it.
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
You bet.
Great info guys.
I tried registering my parakeet just for fun. They weigh more than most of the drones I fly and have much better range. Haha! Too bad they don't have serial numbers to be registered.
In the UK and the CAA we can fly lower than 50m with people. However we can’t fly over crowds that aren’t able to move out the way of something goes wrong. We do need to register the drone because its got a camera. However the only thing in the UK is they don’t give a minimum distance, so I can imagine the law using that for its advantage.
@jamesemery1
Жыл бұрын
there is no separation distance with less than 250g in the uk, as long as you're not flying it like a dick it's not a problem
Thank you for this extremely helpful dialect! Keep up the great work guys🛸
@KenHeron
11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
interesting stuff, im new to drone flying just picked up a mini pro 3 dji and im loving it. thanks for the conversation guys cheers!
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
If you register a drone, are you then required to broadcast RID on that drone? With the Mini 4 Pro, the drone does not transmit RID if using the standard battery but does if you use the Mini 3 Pro or extended battery. If registering the drone makes RID transmission a requirement, then it will cost me the price of either new batteries or a module in addition to the $5 registration fee. This is the reason mine isn't registered as I only fly recreationally and I only own the standard batteries for my drone.
@KenHeron
2 ай бұрын
Well, nobody ever said the government uses logic when implementing policy.
@tom1986ca
2 ай бұрын
@@KenHeron no, but we're still required to adhere to current laws. If registering a drone then requires that drone to broadcast RID, and you're drone currently doesn't require RID and doesn't broadcast it (such as the mini 4 pro), that would be a good reason not to register it.
As a hobbyist why on Earth would I want to register my under 250g fixed wing? I’m sure bad actors are looking to register and comply with all this nonsense.
Thanks for this important information...
@KenHeron
Жыл бұрын
You bet.
I read Cat 1 drones under 250 grams with propeller guards to prevent laceration fall under the allow over people. Did I mis-read that information?
The City has ZERO authority over airspace; the FAA does. I wonder why he did not say that he was flying under 49 USC 44809 (Recreational) instead of 14 CFR 107. 1) He was flying for the pure joy of flying 2) He was following a CBO's safety guidelines 3) Flying within visual line of sight. If FPV, he had a VO. 4) He was not interfering with aircraft 5) He was not in Class A, B, C, D or E airspace 5) He was flying in Class G airspace, under 400 ft AGL, 6) He did not say he had an FAA Trust certificate 6) and under recreational rules, he does not need a registration for drones under 250g. 7) He did not indicate that he had propeller guards.
@garymathe9863
Жыл бұрын
Cities don't have authority over airspace BUT more and more are passing ordinances that prohibit launching/landing on city property, essentially outlawing drones entirely.
@WA4OSH
Жыл бұрын
@@garymathe9863 The same wokesters want electri air taxies and drone delivery. Go figure
In France 🇫🇷 we don’t have to register less 250g drones
@maryjane136
Жыл бұрын
That is not true. You have to follow the rules of the FCAA and EASA. Who should register: UAS that have a mass of 250 g or more; UAS that have a mass of less than 250 g but: are able to operate at speeds greater than 90km / h are equipped with a camera or a microphone, if these UAS are NOT toys *