For all the people commenting on making the vehicles weigh the same (last time everybody complained they didn’t…it’s impossible to please everybody), the numbers at the end of the video were offered as both laden and unladen, so you can see the timing differences there with no additional weight.

@TriNguyen-qq5ul

2 ай бұрын

You serious v8 L.C lose to a 4 cylinder mirha

@ianweal3081

2 ай бұрын

Watched this first hand in NSW on M1 incline south bound out of Orimbah. This guy in his 79 has been following me for ages, then out of the blue he rounds me up on full noise weird. Then I spotted the Mahindra rounding him up on the far right lane, followed them up seeing the Mahindra disappear over the rise well in the lead. Young fella in his 79 must have felt so demoralised, bet he doesn't share that story much. Everyone I know who has the Mahindra's love them and say how they'll not buy Toyota again. Farmers, Tradies, Station owners whom says his staff will only get Mahindra's in the future. V8 fan boys struggling when it's being clearly laid out in front of them so clearly, the V8 rumble makes them think they're quick, reality showing just how utterly useless they are so hyped up, they're a thing of the past, 4 pots will do it all better. Both the 2.8 and Mahindra prove that.

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

As much as I love your comment I'm going to be the devil's advocate and say that even though the Mahindra is definitely the pic for me. With very minor modifications you can get much bigger numbers out of the V8 and that extra power certainly makes a difference when you're in demanding situations such as climbing steep soft sand dunes loaded full of camping gear.

@404errorpagenotfound.6

2 ай бұрын

@@the_curry_cruiser I started the thread and live my Mahindra, I will say the quality control or something is seriously lacking in Mahindra. I have had a lot of warranty issues. Gonna have to get rid of it.

Hi Paul. I have a 2021 Mahindra Pik up single cab, 2wd. Completely stock standard, on factory wheels and tyres, and I think it will leave that LandCruiser 2.8 for dead. I live in Fairfield NSW and we have lots of brand-new Hilux and LandCruisers around here who are always keen for a bit of a drag race and they can never keep up with the Mahindra. As for the Toyota V8 - such a pointless car, a complete slug.

The Mahindra is punching well above its weight👍

@alanmay7929

2 ай бұрын

nope its not! just connect the 8 speed automatic on the v8 and its game over! people have been doing that conversion in australia.

@johnphillips519

2 ай бұрын

Ha ha ha And now just how expensive has that Cruiser become, You could possibly buy 5 Mahindra's for the same $ and still have half the fuel usage, Its a non contest@@alanmay7929

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Yeah but at what cost mate!😂

@joytech23

2 ай бұрын

​@@alanmay7929 the cost to do that is like half the cost of the Mahindra 😂

@alanmay7929

2 ай бұрын

@@joytech23 are you guys ok?! the mahindra is not a competition to land cruiser but to hilux, like it or hate it its garbage compare to land cruiser and yes the automatic gearbox will make a gigantic difference

It was only around ten years ago I was watching HSV vs FPV drag races. Fast forward ten years im watching a Mahindra drag a 70 series. Is this what it has come to. FML

@Wtrxprs007able

2 ай бұрын

Ten years ago you couldn't picture a yaris drag racing a bmw but that's where we are now too

Handicapping only works if you match the power to weight ratio. This means stripping weight from the Mahindra ( removing spare tyre, removing passenger seat, and the tray i guess ). You have a V8 v a straight 4, which is unfair.

Hi Paul- I’ve been enjoying your reviews on the 2.8 70. Test option 1: 79 2.8 vs SR5 Hilux both at their respective max GCM. (79 series -7010kg vs SR5 - 5650kg) Test option 2: 2.8 70 vs 4.5 79 both at max factory GCM 7010kg. Appreciate it.

Actually pleasantly surprised by the mahindra. The old mahindra tractors do last forever.

Next episode we drag race a snail and a tortoise 😂

The poor old V8 just cant win a trick... 🤣

@alanmay7929

2 ай бұрын

its the gearbox the problem here lol!!! put the 8 speed automatic in it and tell me.

@effigy42

2 ай бұрын

@@alanmay7929its just emission restricted

@jb243wp

2 ай бұрын

The v8 will win the test of time trick hands down, and that's towing 3.5t evey day of the week Sadly the 2.8 resale value with 350,000 + klms on the clock will only be worth half the price.. I'd like to see the test in 15yrs time when each vehicle has over 450,00klms on the clock. It's not rocket science to predict that future result.

@amritathakur6935

2 ай бұрын

​@@jb243wp+1

@80serieslandcruiser

2 ай бұрын

@@jb243wp bloody oath mate

The landcruiser V8 is not designed for speed. It is to handle weight

@Andrew-ep3id

2 ай бұрын

Some of the idiots driving them missed to instructions. They think V8 = supercar. 😅

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Let's see how much weight the Mahindra tows over in India. No such thing as ratings over there

@landwaterandthewild

2 ай бұрын

@@the_curry_cruiser Haha, they sure would put it to the test

@petercaldwell8674

2 ай бұрын

It's a pig of an engine from the 1960s stop making excuses for these POS Toyota fanboys are willing to pay a small fortune for. Plenty of extremely reliable V8s around that show how ancient these boat anchors are.

@landwaterandthewild

2 ай бұрын

@petercaldwell8674 What excuse? I stated a fact. Just because it is a V8, it does not mean it will go fast but one thing is for sure, they certainly can handle towing weight. I know this for a fact. I have used them in an old job where they pulled 12 tonne trucks out of bog holes on many occasions. We regularly towed a 4 tonne water trailer and could not even feel the trailer

Don’t understand why you handicapped the Mahindra with extra weight. Makes no sense.

@CarExpertAus

2 ай бұрын

Because people would then complain they didn’t weigh the same.

@johandelen1838

2 ай бұрын

Seriously...? I guess then they'd also complain about the vehicles not having the same power outputs...​@@CarExpertAus

@Ant-iu1kg

2 ай бұрын

You don't add weight with the other drag races between other cars. Why do it now?

@douger1517

2 ай бұрын

It’s because Toyota cannot lose. Sponsors etc.

@30botta

2 ай бұрын

I see the thought bubble but as well can't see the logic

That Mahindra is doing really well. I think I will buy one, certainly as good as an Land Cruiser for a fraction of the price.

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Do it mate. You won't regret it 👍🏾

If the Mahindra had a solid front axle, I’d actually consider buying one

@jamessmyth5949

2 ай бұрын

I'd also buy one if it had a decent spare parts backup, decent resale value, decent durability and decent build quality...

Why match kerb weight? Match power to weight accurate comparison

Load hauling video made no sense, a smaller lighter vehicle was loaded to its maximum versus a bigger heavier vehicle carrying the same load ...both should have been maxed.

@CarExpertAus

2 ай бұрын

But then they wouldn’t weigh the same.

@404errorpagenotfound.6

2 ай бұрын

@@CarExpertAus why would they need to, you are performance testing vehicles with different specs. Would it make sense to get a 70kg powerlifter to do his 1 rep max at overhead press then get Eddie Hall in his prime at 197kg to lift the same weight and say oh look Eddie Hall lifts the same weight better than the 70kg guy. Makes zero sense.

A cool video, although I think it's unfair loading the Mahindra. But that said I'd never buy either. Had a few 70 series in our company fleet and the only good thing is that they're reliable and have a rigid chassis. Everything else though they suck. Although they were much better than the rangers we had. 6 rangers and each one had major breakdowns. I hate rangers with a burning passion. Will never buy another one.

@amansood7601

2 ай бұрын

That’s Ford for you mate

This reminds me of the old Top Gear episode where the camera guy pans twice as fast the car were moving because they weren’t used to how slow the cars were that they were testing! 😂

I don’t think you need to match the kerb weight. It’s not like they’re the same car like 79 and the 76. I reckon you should’ve kept the weights stock cause the Mahindras lighter stock

Maybe James Wong is a talented drag racer and that is why he always wins regardless of vehicle? I went to high school with another student in my year level who also had the name 'James Wong' he was in that group of students with the best talent for sports, I don't know if he is the same James Wong who went to Doncaster Secondary College during 1992 and 1993?

hey Paul - let’s see you test the new Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD - now that a truck!

Hoping to see a Scorpio Classic(wagon) against an LC 70 in the future ?

Maybe an unladen standing start and role race before adding weight? Wounder if the Mahindra was closer to the 70 unladen?

@CarExpertAus

2 ай бұрын

Numbers are at the end of the video.

Why make them weigh the same? Makes no logical sense.

😂 gold love it. Mahindra is very underated

Both are real work trucks catering different audience there a because big price difference

Do you guys in Australia ever use rails on the back of your bakkies(trucks)? We do it in South Africa and it looks and works really well

@rsoul7282

2 ай бұрын

Define what you mean by rails? I would say that both countries have more configurations than you can poke a stick at when it comes to what is on the back of our vehicles.

@Ry43T1

2 ай бұрын

​@@rsoul7282I can't explain it. I think best would be to Google "South african land cruiser with rails" and then get back to me about it

@perpetualgrin5804

2 ай бұрын

As an ex railway man I'm confused by ' rails ' on a truck.😅

@Adam-7_7_7

2 ай бұрын

Rail's ? Lost in translation mate.

@unknownanimist2200

2 ай бұрын

Think he's probably referring to Roll bars

Good one hehe didn't think it could take a toyota though

Not fair 2door vs 4door

Hey Paul. can u do a drag race on the 2.8lc70 vs 4.0lc70(1gr)

@niccopeland4050

2 ай бұрын

We dont get the 1GR-FE 70 Series in Australia, unfortunately!

I dont hate the Mahindra, hating brands is dumb, but 70 series all day for me 👌

No, James do not jump the gun; the cruiser lost a bit of traction on the launch and spun the wheels -- watch it again 🤔

im not a car/buisness person, but i kinda think of how holden used the izusu engine in their ute. How would a company like mahindra go if they had tried something like that? where even if dealer locations are limited, you could go to an isusu and still get engine related parts.(and hopefully a bit more power to weight)

OMG, James is the special surprise?!?!

@CarExpertAus

2 ай бұрын

Meow.

@rajpawar9343

2 ай бұрын

What is meow?

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

James is meow 😂

A land cruiser with traction control and a four cylinder? The mahindra is starting to look better and better.

Please could you drag race the Isuzu d max and Toyota hilux

Would you see a drag race with a tune V8 70 series 💯👌

When comparing it needs to be how we buy them …unweighted so as to compare vehicles against vehicles. Wish Toyota was not so powerful with sponsorship/influence.

The V8 70 series manual gearbox sucked 1st was to short and 5th should have been taller. I short shift into 2nd as soon as I get rolling all the time because that's all it's good for getting it rolling.

@effigy42

2 ай бұрын

Boost up in second off the line like all manual truck drivers do….

@davidgriggs3967

2 ай бұрын

@effigy42 Too much wear on the clutch revving it up and riding it out and if you just drop the clutch it bogs .

This reminds me of those speed videos comparing iPhones to Samsung

@josh3221ify

2 ай бұрын

Iphone killer days

Are you guys really serious????. The 79 and 70 series have been a faithful workhorse for years. How dare you disrespect that lineage with a small pis.

I think James might be a better driver, that's all!

@CarExpertAus

2 ай бұрын

You spelt your name wrong, James! 😂

We always asked for the VW amarok V6 vs the VW Ford Amarok v6 and ranger

@1989cranston

2 ай бұрын

You coming to a video asking about a completely different thing lol.. wtf

@bovolino0149

2 ай бұрын

There’s no need. We know what will win. Perform the same race at 400000km though and see who will win😂😂😂😂😂

Drag race the new triton against the bi turbo ranger xlt, dmax, bt50, navara, hilux , amarok, gwm canon

Drag race an electric scooter vs loaded mahindra.... mines slow and i get the same 1/4 mile time, a friend has a much much much quicker one that'll smoke it

Straight to the workshop to get all the Toyota weak clutches replaced after that spirited driving.

ALL GOOD BUT HOW LONG IS THE MOTOR GUNNA LAST? ALL GOOD SHORT TERM.

@nicko9799

2 ай бұрын

Mahindra is known for its reliability The motor in this Ute is actually quite reliable and gives toyota a run for its money. Mahindra actually did a video with a company that has a fleet of mahindra trucks with over 500,000km on the clock and still going!

@80serieslandcruiser

2 ай бұрын

@@nicko9799 will it get over a million mate? i know cruisers will

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Well I'm pretty sure one of their utes has done over 700,000 ks so far and I'm sure it's going to do more We just have to wait a few months and see. Besides that point it has a dual timing chain and a lot of jackaroos that use them up north don't do any maintenance and they flog the crap out of them but they just don't die!

@80serieslandcruiser

2 ай бұрын

@@the_curry_cruiser ive done my fair share of station work up north mate, and i barely seen any mahindras, if any at all. everyone uses cruisers. thats cause you can flog the cruisers and still get a million kms. haha, my neighbouring cattle station has a 70 series landcruers with 860,000 km. still goin strong, orignal motor and all. i own multiple cruisers and i woulnt do anything different

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

@@80serieslandcruiser yes Cruisers are tough and reliable but so are Mahindra Pikups. If you do your research it is evident. India abuses the absolute crap out of them and they handle it. Plenty of local mines and courier business use them where I live. Keep seeing more and more of them.

To be honest mahindra is good in manual transmission compared to their automatic transmission. To be clear automatic transmission in mahindra is for a slow and steady drive not for the race or for coparrision. Those transmission is only for the peoples need comfort in india in a commercial segment

How about racing the 70 series and/or the Mahindra with the Isuzi N series since the Isuzu can be driven on a car license

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Not sure what country you're from but you can drive either of those vehicles with a standard C-Class licence here in Australia

Ute are commercial purpose vehicles in india it doesn't mean they are powerful or not but if they are not fuel efficient it means

@josh3221ify

2 ай бұрын

Indian "utes" are tuk tuks in comparisson

@Mr.Monark

2 ай бұрын

​@@josh3221ifynot exactly , r u living in a Cave or something

@devendersuhag6968

2 ай бұрын

Poor asstra... Ur country cant even makes needle,...😂😂😂😂

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Yeah he hasn't seen the Pikup pulling a mono up the hill due to being overloaded on the daily in India 😂

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

@@Mr.Monark The tub/tray dragging on the ground, the rear suspension fully compressed and the front wheels high and dry up in the air.

You don't add weight for drag racing.

With working utes...drag race is not a good comparison....it should be more 0-60 kmph...

Why would you add weight so they are the same? You guys must be sponsored by Toyota

@CarExpertAus

2 ай бұрын

lol.

@josh3221ify

2 ай бұрын

Toyota is supposed to win, because we are supposed to love it

Like to see Ford F-150 Lightning vs .......

@effigy42

2 ай бұрын

Against one Kenyan in a long distance trip

Who ask for this comparison?? A drag race? Hahahahahaha

😂we have pickup drag races

You are trying to send some people into conniptio’s

LC70 better than Pik-Up

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Sure it is kid😂

Mahindra is a great price, but parts and dealerships are a worry. Could not care less about how it performs in a drag race with a car i cant afford.

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

You hit the nail on the head. The pikup in particular is a great vehicle but parts, supplies and dealers are patchy at best

lol that V8TD is such a joke of an engine. I mean yeah its detuned from the factory but then that then makes its even more pointless to have had it in the lineup for all these years.

pause at 0:00 💀

Do these tests even matter? In Toyota we trust, what the hell is the other thing?

@hakshayak2044

2 ай бұрын

If someone offering you same things at really affordable price wouldn't u consider to look at it??. Or u becoming ignorant

@80serieslandcruiser

2 ай бұрын

Haha, yeah bloody oath mate. Toyota!

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Ignorance is bliss😂

We want to see American trucks

Ah yeah the V8 is definitely worth another 55000.00 🙄

Horses for courses. The V8 is built with a purpose and that was to fulfil the needs of industry hence the weird stuff with the axle widths and whatnot. The Mahindra on the other hand has a long heritage in agricultural background. Neither of them are performance or comfort oriented yet it's pretty plain and simple to see the value in a cheaper vehicle and a more expensive vehicle. It just depends on your needs. If I had enough money sure I would love a nice big V8 and some overpriced mods but I'm not made of money and the Mahindra fits the bill and does everything I ask of it and then some. You want to spend 80k on a Toyota Go for it I'd rather spend 40 and have money for fuel to take my family out bush and get away from people losing drag races when I'm in my Mahindra😅

Twice the price for Toyota.Naah waiting for Scorpio pickup

@alanmay7929

2 ай бұрын

nonsense!!! the toyota can tow way more, has auxiliary fuel tank as option, has front and rear solid axles..... the mahindra is crap comapred to it! now just put the automatic gearbox on the toyota and the 4 cylinder wont compete.

@effigy42

2 ай бұрын

So f250’s then

@alanmay7929

2 ай бұрын

@@effigy42 no! f450

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Just wait until the new global Pikup comes out. You can have your cake and eat it too 💩

Vs humvee

Yes I bought my 76 to drag race mahindras. Such a pointless idea. Why does everyone think the v8 is meant to be a sports car. It’s a v8 because they can make 4cyl power with half the stress and double the oil capacity to last decades not because Ferrari puts them in the cars

@WombatMilk

2 ай бұрын

Are you going to cry?

@80serieslandcruiser

2 ай бұрын

@@WombatMilk hes got a point mate

You need a v16 toyota

Toyota crybabies cant handle some indian company built reliable yet efficient ute than toyota😂😂

@80serieslandcruiser

2 ай бұрын

reliable how so. short term or long term mate

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Long term ya Toyota f-boy

The new Landcruiser 70 makes the Mahindra look like the better buy. The interior of the Mahindra at least looks like it has some options. A farm tractor interior has more options than the 70 series.

@alanmay7929

2 ай бұрын

nope its not nice try.

1st you drive Mahindra You loss 2nd you drive Toyota you loss 😂 So the problem is ___?

You failed because of premature shifting. You need to get each gear at high RPM before shifting to next gear

F-150, RAM trx 1500, Ranger Raptor, Hilux GR, VW Amarok, Silverado

@Daily15sec-lg2qs

2 ай бұрын

Score mom trucks ❎ real Work trucks✅

A Toyota is a Toyota ❤

@brendan3430

2 ай бұрын

Yes, overrated and overpriced.

@80serieslandcruiser

2 ай бұрын

@@brendan3430 bugga off mate

😂 I am surprised that Mahindra didn't blow up

@john_barnett

2 ай бұрын

Judging by how some people's V8 70 series go I could say the same

@devendersuhag6968

2 ай бұрын

Because Mahindra is largest selling tractor brand in the world.... And they have mastered in diesel engines... Poor ass..trai...😂😂😂😂😂😂

@80serieslandcruiser

2 ай бұрын

haha! 👍

They keep giving the cheaper one handicaps

Once again it shows how pathetic the Toyota's are, what a joke. Any chance they'll be modernising the V8 too some time this century, oh what a feeling Of embarrassment that is.😢

Mahindra worst Ute in Australia vrs Toyota the most overpriced ute in oz and most under delivering

@the_curry_cruiser

2 ай бұрын

Talk is cheap. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is!

Why do you make them weigh the same? If one manufacturer has engineered their vehicle lighter why go and screw with that?

Mahindra clear winner as a work horse exceptional value. As a tow tug the V8 better in the mud I suspect.

@alanmay7929

2 ай бұрын

the toyota is the clear winner in all cathegories, the manual gearbox also is much better when offroading and hill descend...... lets not forget the option of much bigger fuel tank in the toyota....... solid front and rear axles and much more.

@hakshayak2044

2 ай бұрын

Over priced machine 😂😂​@@alanmay7929

@davidwright1752

2 ай бұрын

@@alanmay7929 Price? Quite familiar with the Toyota. You described the 1960s 3 speed 6 cylinder I drove. The new ones a basically the same vehicle. With disc brakes and diesel donk. On a farm I’ll drive one only if I have to They are the most uncomfortable vehicle made. We managed to go most places in the land rovers 1950s a 1960s 70s Holden Ute and a heavy right boot could get through most mud. If in remote areas and 3rd world countries I would prefer the Toyota. But value for money and bit more comfort I’ll go for the Mahindra. It also depends on what job the vehicles are used for.

@alanmay7929

2 ай бұрын

@@davidwright1752 big lol!!!! those toyota are expensive because they are very basic and generaly older and toyota could have stopped building it years ago but the demand is still there even tho they have to pay things like the ridiculous carbon taxe to sell those! your mahindra is an uncapable vehicle comapred to itlike it or not! the 70 series also comes in pickup truck single/double cab, wagon and finally troop carrier for all kinds of applications unlike the weak mahindra.

@davidwright1752

Ай бұрын

@@alanmay7929 Its you money buy what you like or need, but the Mahindra drivers are happy with the vehicle. Buy the correct vehicle for the job. However the Landcruiser is last on my list. My opinion my money.