Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series 4-Cylinder vs V8 Comparison: Reliability, Concerns and Which is BETTER?

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What is ACTUALLY Better - the Toyota Land Cruiser 70 series 4-Cylinder or the V8?
No one is properly answering this question, because its not simple. I've now spent WEEKS driving both, and am ready to give my full opinion. What about reliability? What about daily driving? In today's review, we will answer all of these questions and more by putting the 4-cylinder (aka HiLux engine) and 8-cylinder engines HEAD TO HEAD in the LandCruiser 70 Series! Let's compare them in today's detailed comparison review!
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:00 - Performance Testing (0-100km/h)
00:01:23 - Power and Engine Specs
00:02:21 - Daily Driving, Payload and Towing
00:05:14 - Reliability
00:08:26 - Tuneability and Mods Capability
00:09:56 - Which is better? 4-Cylinder or V8?
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  • @gailmaplesden7380
    @gailmaplesden73804 ай бұрын

    They need to put a 6-speed manual transmission behind the V8, and that would correct the gearing issue.

  • @CarSauce

    @CarSauce

    4 ай бұрын

    That would be amazing, but almost certainly not happening ☹️

  • @samhassall1926

    @samhassall1926

    4 ай бұрын

    They needed to put an auto behind it

  • @nathiolifant6842

    @nathiolifant6842

    4 ай бұрын

    Yep. Its going ​@@CarSauce

  • @nathansharma87

    @nathansharma87

    4 ай бұрын

    They need to put the 3.3 TTDV6 in other models and not just the LC300. But it's Toyota so you know they won't. They'll boost up a hamster with methamphetamine under the hood instead of just putting that engine in.

  • @electrikoptik

    @electrikoptik

    4 ай бұрын

    @@nathansharma87 The 3.3 TTD V6 will surely eventually be offered although most likely in the 70-series replacement which will happen at some point.

  • @Car-crazy
    @Car-crazy4 ай бұрын

    Well I am very happy with my LC 150 2.8 diesel. Plenty of pulling power, very comfortable and will go anywhere. On the motorway at 120kph its ticking over at a leisurely 1700rpm in 6th gear, which it will stay in even going up hill. You hear people complaining that the 2.8 isnt powerful enough. They either haven't driven an lc with the 2.8 or they are expecting it to out accelerate a porsche, or they simply don't know what they are talking about. This was a great comparison video by the way.

  • @spooner0007
    @spooner00074 ай бұрын

    I'm happy to keep my 2021 SR Hilux . Half the price , same power , better comfort and less noise as well as proper coffee cup holders.

  • @aslkdfjhg

    @aslkdfjhg

    4 ай бұрын

    As well as better safety, easier to get into, cheaper insurance, better sound system...

  • @LVNITUPM8

    @LVNITUPM8

    4 ай бұрын

    And you load up a family of 4 in it and you are at gvm

  • @yazeedzaw7696

    @yazeedzaw7696

    4 ай бұрын

    Don't forget Better maintenance in the long term + lower parts prices

  • @jamesm6341

    @jamesm6341

    4 ай бұрын

    absolutely some are claiming 2.8 70s series is more comfortable than the Hilux 😂

  • @nathansharma87

    @nathansharma87

    4 ай бұрын

    I'm happy to keep my 2013 Citizen Eco Drive watch. No batteries to replace and the band is comfortable.

  • @istp1967
    @istp19674 ай бұрын

    I'll stick with the 4.0litre straight six, Thanks ...I'll stick with the 4.0litre straight six, Thanks ... because I can work on it myself!

  • @ElectraJetProp

    @ElectraJetProp

    25 күн бұрын

    Oh, the venerable HZ….!!

  • @rossawood5075
    @rossawood50754 ай бұрын

    Bring back an upgraded 7 bearing inline 6 cylinder 1HDFTE 24 valve turbo diesel modified to meet Euro 5 spec I say, most reliable diesel Toyota ever produced, stump pulling torque from 1400 rpm to 3200 rpm, easy to work on and easily capable of 700,000 klm, some have achieved a 1,000.000klm if well serviced. Even though this engine originally only had 1kw more power than the 2.8 litr (150kw)and 70nm less torque, at 430 nm, vs 500nm the spread of torque is spectacular. And a lot easier to service and replace a starter motor! Jus sayin'

  • @joshthomas2536

    @joshthomas2536

    2 ай бұрын

    Considering as of next year the grubberment want emissions on diesels cut by 65% that will never happen. Isuzu has pulled out, and Toyota already got caught cheating this year with the 2.8 to meet emissions as it is so they're bailing and possibly going hybrid. You won't see anything close to a 1HDFTE again unfortunately.

  • @MR-hu1bx

    @MR-hu1bx

    2 ай бұрын

    Mate 100% agree go the FTE

  • @gusman8195

    @gusman8195

    2 ай бұрын

    Totally agree FTE Best motor ,I have 2 of them .

  • @aw3215
    @aw32154 ай бұрын

    Love your work Matt. Your reviews are going from strength to strength: informative, engaging and huge fun. My V8 Troopy with the stock 225 95 R16 tyres (33") keeps the revs down at highway speed where I average c. 11.5 l/100km and under 2000 rpm cruising at 100km/h. On the Canning Stock Route I averaged 12.3 l/100km. This said, I don't tow and no roofrack. From a longevity and purist point of view, V8 hands down as there's no replacement for cubic centimetres.

  • @notrut
    @notrut4 ай бұрын

    It needs a Straight Six engine, not a 4 cylinder.

  • @Latsaaben
    @Latsaaben4 ай бұрын

    Nice video! I have a 2021 Hilux 2.8. Bought it brand new and strangely enough, the oil consumption was not a issue at all, no need to top up the oil, just followed the service intervals. I have driven it just over 40000km. But the DPF-regen happens often, every 200-250km. All in all, no issues with the engine. And yes, the towing capacity is great too! 3500kg heavy trailer is no problem for the engine and driveline to pull. Such a shame that we cant buy this Land Cruiser new here in Norway though :(

  • @muthukumaranc
    @muthukumaranc4 ай бұрын

    Very well done comparison with great research!

  • @CarSauce

    @CarSauce

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @R00RAL
    @R00RAL4 ай бұрын

    I'm coming up to 500k km, 20 years old in the V8. I do long distance driving, virtually no city driving. I live & work in the bush.

  • @MR-hu1bx

    @MR-hu1bx

    4 күн бұрын

    Don’t remember anyone asking you a question? Or are you just insecure about your V8

  • @craigeberhardt8692
    @craigeberhardt86924 ай бұрын

    ‘Underpowered and under stressed so it lasts for ever”. That is the point.

  • @davidruslan3533
    @davidruslan35334 ай бұрын

    I think you’ve reached a very sensible and accurate conclusion. I’ve finally received my 76 V8 after a 21 month wait. After getting used to the feel of it, I’d love to take the four pot for a test drive to feel the difference.

  • @stevenbrown2401

    @stevenbrown2401

    2 ай бұрын

    I only had to wait 4.5 months, and I love my V8

  • @panavarora5168
    @panavarora51684 ай бұрын

    Nice video!

  • @ShunguRocks
    @ShunguRocks3 ай бұрын

    Excellent work with the video lads. You literally solved all my confusion on which one to buy. I’m going for the V8 with some mods option

  • @MR-hu1bx

    @MR-hu1bx

    4 күн бұрын

    Bhahaha, did you even listen at all!

  • @ShunguRocks

    @ShunguRocks

    3 күн бұрын

    @@MR-hu1bx yeah I did, I can work with the V8 and modify + tune it to my liking better than the other one. You clearly liked the 2.8 Hilux engine? DGAF bout the warranty.

  • @TheHayabusa09
    @TheHayabusa094 ай бұрын

    Great review! Pity, we don't get the 2-Door Land Cruiser here as seen in the Middle East. It costs roughly $70k and has the 1GR-FE, V6 with a 5-speed manual...That would be awesome! Check out Mawater Arabia for a look at the 2024 model.

  • @gavinchapple825
    @gavinchapple8254 ай бұрын

    You saucy devil…I think you nailed it

  • @hasyudasituru
    @hasyudasituru4 ай бұрын

    At the company where I work (mining in Papua), they chose the 2024 version with a 4.5L V8 engine (Troop Carrier) and there are already several units arriving.

  • @stephenczislowski
    @stephenczislowski3 ай бұрын

    This is the best review so far, as the old saying goes “if you want fuel economy, don’t buy a V8”

  • @geoff1971
    @geoff19714 ай бұрын

    I prefer the V8, but I would bolt a 6 speed manual transmission to it

  • @CarSauce

    @CarSauce

    4 ай бұрын

    That’ll cost a few extra $$$

  • @australia-ukraine

    @australia-ukraine

    4 ай бұрын

    Bigger tyres solve the problem

  • @majinsaiyan8255
    @majinsaiyan82554 ай бұрын

    I absolutely LOVE the 70 series CRUISERS. I don’t give af what anyone says! People spend millions on cars so debunk the its overpriced argument. I’ve gone around Aus in my 79 V8 and plan to do it again :D

  • @WalshyAus
    @WalshyAus4 ай бұрын

    That was a really good saucy video !

  • @CarSauce

    @CarSauce

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @australia-ukraine
    @australia-ukraine4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video. After all the hustle and bustle, the V8 is the clear winner. It's nonsensical to prioritize getting from 0 to 100 km/h in an off-road truck. Why would I need an automatic gearbox in mud or sand? And how can I push start my car with an automatic gearbox? Bigger tires compensate for the lack of a 6th gear; you can legally fit 33-34" tires on this vehicle. Also, if I were looking for the luxury or comfortable style of driving, it's completely far from what the 70 series offers. But, if you're looking to build a true off-road and expedition truck for enjoying off-road and long-distance trips, a V8 is the only option for me.

  • @spudboy1328
    @spudboy13284 ай бұрын

    Sort of unrelated question: Do you have any inside info on the new 2025 Hilux? Still with the 2.8L engine? Any chance of a V6? Thanks - David

  • @imrankhan-lm9ki
    @imrankhan-lm9ki4 ай бұрын

    Great bro 👌

  • @gullf1sk
    @gullf1sk4 ай бұрын

    Ronny Dahl tested his 2013 tuned v8 vs the new 4cyl auto(not tuned), the 4cyl convincingly beat the v8 when towing a large caravan up a steep hill The v8 was on 35" tires tho so that has to be taken in to account.

  • @1pkcosmo

    @1pkcosmo

    3 ай бұрын

    And his V8 weighs substantially more than the stock 4 he bought. Gearing different, 76 vrs 79 many differences it all depends what you want it for.

  • @ingdanielluna
    @ingdanielluna4 ай бұрын

    Hello, very informative video! Question: Where do you get a new ratio, which company does that?

  • @roybatty2030
    @roybatty20304 ай бұрын

    Happy with my 2001 3.0D 4 cyl Isuzu Trooper, thanks. 33-35mpg on a run. 160,000 miles and running sweet. Have to fight off the women, it’s so kool.

  • @pdj2579
    @pdj25794 ай бұрын

    How about a head to head with the 79 4 banger and a Hilux 4 banger? Is a 79 worth the extra? Can the Hilux do everything the 79 can?

  • @dperk1757
    @dperk17574 ай бұрын

    Nice video.. although one thing that’s often missing from comparison videos is what it feels like to own and drive these vehicles. I’ve driven both and it’s true the 2.8 has great road performance in comparison to the V8 and works well off road too. BUT, the 2.8 lacks the character and feel of the VDJ, it feels like Toyota’s answer to a mass of employees with auto only licences, and if you want to drive a 4 cylinder auto Toyota buy a Prado or a Hilux.

  • @douglascarrphotography
    @douglascarrphotography4 ай бұрын

    Hi thx for the video but my question is as the new 2.8 basically has the Hilux engine how does or would the 2.8 Cruiser actually compare the the Hilux... and more to the point on fuel consumption can one put aHilux 2.4 TDi DC 4×4 2019 or 2.8 into say a 2013 Toyota Land Cruiser 76 Troopy. Why? Because I love the Troopy body but would prefer the fuel consumption of the 2.8 $$$ thx

  • @fathomtheundertaker4356
    @fathomtheundertaker43564 ай бұрын

    I've got the new V8 troopy, only done 500ks and my fuel economy is at 10.4 per 100 and that's half highway and the rest short runs down the beach or onto the salt flats and around town. I'd like to see a side by side fuel consumption between the 4 and V8, according to my result the V8 is better on fuel?

  • @user-zf2kp9ki3b
    @user-zf2kp9ki3b2 ай бұрын

    I did 800,000 kms on my old hiace 2.4lt on LPG and that's carrying half to 1 ton loads 6 days a week for 11 years. Now I have a 2.7lt LPG hiace and is 14 years old with 320,000kms, still runs like new. I am proof that Toyota makes reliable engines. If I get those kms out of a petrol/lpg engine, diesel should be even better.

  • @davidmilledge221
    @davidmilledge2214 ай бұрын

    Have they up graded the hand brake or is that still a future thing 🤔

  • @wanhedah
    @wanhedahАй бұрын

    I still love the sound of straight 6 😍🥰

  • @vorant77
    @vorant77Ай бұрын

    I wish these were available in the U.S., thanks for the info.

  • @anbu999
    @anbu9994 ай бұрын

    On the V8 you need to upgrade the clutch even on Stage-1 tune. That is more money down drain.

  • @TheAaryan88
    @TheAaryan882 ай бұрын

    Hello, this is a strange question, but I'm trying to find the headlights for this car. I tried contacting Toyota, but they require the model's vin number in order to provide new headlights. Since they are 7 inches, I want to try installing them in another vehicle because we're trying to recreate a vintage Jeep from the 1970s. Could you please help me in any way?

  • @byhsu6140
    @byhsu61404 ай бұрын

    It would have been nice if you were able to compare two vehicles with the same body style for the purpose of aerodynamics and how they would affect the fuel economy. Also the truck will be lighter than the wagon.

  • @MoiPloy
    @MoiPloy4 ай бұрын

    my innova came with the 2.8L very reliable engine after 200000km you need to clean up the EGR and still running with the original timing chain

  • @khalidmuhammad1991
    @khalidmuhammad19914 ай бұрын

    I would like the V8, with automatic transmission from the factory please 😊

  • @tjakonderokavejandja1035
    @tjakonderokavejandja10352 ай бұрын

    I am getting [buying] both of them this month because of my varying tasks from professional to personal!! Yeah! But thanks for this important updates buddy❗️🤝🏾

  • @tube-dude77
    @tube-dude772 ай бұрын

    In south africa, I've been on forums for Hilux owners, & a lot of complaints about Hilux is the shocks, side shafts & gearbox. Anything like that in Australia?

  • @Blanchy1977
    @Blanchy19774 ай бұрын

    I have the new 79 single cab utensils in 4.5ltr. I’m getting 11.4ltrs per 100kms bit highway and around town driving. Sits at 2000rpm at 100km/hr.

  • @aussiefarmer6012

    @aussiefarmer6012

    4 ай бұрын

    Thats good. The older model did 2400rpms at 100. Go any less than 2000rpm at 100 it wouldn't pull it towing or carrying a load. It doesn't need a faster 5th gear if used for purpose.

  • @Blanchy1977

    @Blanchy1977

    4 ай бұрын

    @@aussiefarmer6012 I thought so mate. I actually got it down to 11.2 yesterday but it’s back up to 11.4 now. Stock tyres etc. bull bar, side-rails and heavy duty alloy tray. Not carrying or towing anything atm so I expect the figures to dramatically change when that happens. Absolutely loving it though 👌

  • @joshthomas2536

    @joshthomas2536

    2 ай бұрын

    How much do you weigh about 2.7t? Because that's pretty good for the rpm really. My Adventra (basically an AWD SS) weighs around 2100kg, sits around 2000rpm at 110, through the slushbox 4 speed I get between 7-10L/100km.

  • @heliomartins8593
    @heliomartins85933 ай бұрын

    The v8 is so cool. Impossible to have it in Europe 😢 enjoy it...

  • @calamarininjabeast5866
    @calamarininjabeast58664 ай бұрын

    Legendary car, it’s not meant to be quiet, comfortable or refined get a hilux, prado or 300 series. Go to the harshest & most dangerous parts of the world you’ll see these cars everywhere not meant for driving to coles in

  • @jasonfields2793

    @jasonfields2793

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah and you will find they have a 1hz under the bonnet not a 1vd

  • @zestyzests

    @zestyzests

    4 ай бұрын

    Love my single cab 79, and I 100% agree people don't understand until they owned a LC then again not a lot of people can afford an LC so they just hating tbh

  • @ianweal3081

    @ianweal3081

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@zestyzestsand you'll go on loving it until you actually give in and agree it's really not a nice thing to drive on road, pathetic off road, and whilst possibly reliable, maybe not always unbreakable. Yes, I know what their actually like, as I got caught up in the hype, lashed out and purchased one. Knew from the moment I did I'd made a mistake. Yes I told everyone how great it was, only briefly but then I learned to despise the bloody thing, desperately despise it. Sold it easily, thank goodness. Should I ever be in the market and had to choose, the auto 4 banger key will hang on my wall rather than the V8's. But that's where the keys would probably stay, on the wall. I'd elect to stick to my Patrol for on & off road use. Christ, we opted back into our old 4 pot auto Jackaroo over the 76 V8. You'll one day discover likewise, it's really not that good once you elect to let yourself be guided by your true desire to have a capable vehicle and not the hype around these things.

  • @jasonfields2793
    @jasonfields27934 ай бұрын

    When a die hard v8 toyota lover like Ronny Dalh puts out a video showing the stock 2.8 trouncing his tuned v8 in a tow test you just cant argue the point the v8 can lay down some dyno numbers but its so inefficient in actually putting that torque to work.

  • @christurner68

    @christurner68

    4 ай бұрын

    Didn’t use the same size tyres so the comparison was flawed

  • @jasonfields2793

    @jasonfields2793

    4 ай бұрын

    @christurner68 flawed maybe but completely valid none the least

  • @danefrancis9191

    @danefrancis9191

    4 ай бұрын

    The v8 was fully tuned, should compensate for tyres. 2.8 is an amazing engine, Toyota claim its the best diesel engine they ever built

  • @craigice9635

    @craigice9635

    4 ай бұрын

    @@danefrancis9191 The tyres alone make a huge difference, even when tuned. If both vehicles were stock, the 4 would win anyway, as 500Nm trumps 430Nm any day, especially in a lighter vehicle that's an auto with an extra gear.

  • @Ktmfan450

    @Ktmfan450

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@christurner68Ronny Dahl has had both diffs regeared for tyre size

  • @DEPORTER_SUPPORTER
    @DEPORTER_SUPPORTER2 ай бұрын

    Iam waiting for delivery of my 300 series Sahara. The wait is agonizing.

  • @antoncarmoducchi6057
    @antoncarmoducchi60574 ай бұрын

    Toyota designers usually get it right. plenty of 1HD owners said the 1VD was crap. I have a V8 and love it. but it has its down sides.

  • @Robert13HD
    @Robert13HDАй бұрын

    Please tell me what that REDARC switch does? Thank you

  • @kgomotsontemane4033
    @kgomotsontemane40334 ай бұрын

    If I'm getting a Land Cruiser it has to be a V8 can't wait for those idles/growls of the 8pot

  • @paulklp8262

    @paulklp8262

    2 ай бұрын

    God, that is NOT why people need a LandCruiser. What the actual fuck is wrong with you.

  • @MR-hu1bx

    @MR-hu1bx

    4 күн бұрын

    This is a very stupid comment, “it has to be the V8” No mate it doesn’t, the V8 is actually the worst landcruiser engine that they’ve built. What you need is a turbo diesel inline 6

  • @blairjoyce3778
    @blairjoyce37784 ай бұрын

    Automatic gear in that landcruiser ute is a must for a better stopping system otherwise front will become overheat or gets caught on fire think twice while carrying heavy load or towing! Do your maths over 2.8lt and 4.5lt diesel . I have kept hearing news about new landcruiser every time I go on KZread and no one’s ever wanted anyone to know about something that they’ve hidden whatever you know !

  • @stevenbrown2401
    @stevenbrown24012 ай бұрын

    First gear should be short, Just received my 79 V8 and loving it

  • @kevinmurimi2176
    @kevinmurimi21764 ай бұрын

    Plz do a review of the 2gd ftv engine, the 2.8L diesel's lil brother. It's diesel reliability @ its best

  • @gabrieladamszambia
    @gabrieladamszambiaАй бұрын

    Man you're a good presenter😅🎉

  • @dimekoza
    @dimekoza4 ай бұрын

    The 4.5L V8 actually made about 286HP and 650Nm in the Land Cruiser 200. I'm guessing Toyota toned it down because of the lower quality fuel in AUS, or, the manual transmission which surelly can't take the 650Nm of torque...

  • @Agent.K.

    @Agent.K.

    4 ай бұрын

    Slightly different engine. LC200 had a twin turbo version. The 70 has a single turbo. The name code is a bit different I'm too tired to look it up right now.

  • @dimekoza

    @dimekoza

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Agent.K. it's the same engine dude... the peripherals, like the turbo and other auxilary components are different. Same block, same head, same internals, make it the same engine. Just like any other manufacturer that has an engine in many different power levels and configurations...

  • @markkuman4673
    @markkuman46733 ай бұрын

    Say what you want. V8 sheer bullet proof reliability. Love from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬

  • @dilshankoenig8798
    @dilshankoenig87984 ай бұрын

    V8 🔥❤

  • @devo7428
    @devo74284 ай бұрын

    Yep the 2.8 is the sensible choice. Lifes all about being sensible.......

  • @morten_hannesbo
    @morten_hannesbo3 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately we do not get these in Europe. Would like to own one with the 4-cyl engine.

  • @KiwiPokerPlayer
    @KiwiPokerPlayer4 ай бұрын

    Are you talking about the 2nd hand market? I don't think it's going to be possible to buy a new V8 at this point. New orders have stopped, the only V8 2024s are going to people who have been on the waiting list for 2 years and they are given the option of the V8 or 2.8. For someone walking in off the street to a Toyota dealer today, the only option is the 2.8.

  • @davidmilledge221
    @davidmilledge2214 ай бұрын

    Makes me want to put a 2.8 small pot in my 80series so I can be a V8 killer 4 once 😅

  • @rollyb5061
    @rollyb50614 ай бұрын

    Hi Matt, just wondering how long will these autos last in the 2-8?

  • @unwoke1652

    @unwoke1652

    4 ай бұрын

    It is afaik, the same Aisin unit as in Hilux/Prado/DMAX/MU-X/BT-50/Pajero Sport.

  • @benlondon8467

    @benlondon8467

    4 ай бұрын

    I service & repair for a living, we / I service many Hilux s , we have a customer with a 2018 2.8 that’s done 586000km, service about every 2/3 weeks.. we have changed brake pads/ rotors/ filters, serviced all diffs / Auto/ transfer case etc etc, on time it entire life. Runs like a clock, Auto great, engine etc etc. We will see, I recon the owner will probably get a Million K at this rate 👌. Honestly I see lots of Hilux 3.0/2.8 , Auto / Manual, looked after, they will do big KM. 👌

  • @rollyb5061

    @rollyb5061

    3 ай бұрын

    @@benlondon8467 Hi, do these autos need a cooler?👌

  • @benlondon8467

    @benlondon8467

    3 ай бұрын

    @@rollyb5061 no, they have a standard cooler, but if you are towing a big trailer/Caravan or lots of beach work, a second cooler would probably be advisable.

  • @moosa9850
    @moosa98502 күн бұрын

    I'm surprised they didn't put the 3litre D4d engine rather than the 2.8

  • @alialali6563
    @alialali65633 ай бұрын

    The turbo device is not suitable for hot countries. People love simple, uncomplicated engines. Whenever the engine becomes more complicated, it becomes a prisoner of the workshops.

  • @drkhalidadventurer1721
    @drkhalidadventurer17214 ай бұрын

    I am having sr5 hilux 2023, everybit is satisfying, though i made mistake of upgrading tyre to 265 65 r18 bfg (31.6) from stock 265 60 r 18 (30.5), though their is almost no power loss i observed, but on stock tyre i am easily getting b 7l/100km not its taking aroun 8.5l/100km. (P.s. most of Indian roads have speed limit under 100kmph only).

  • @emilerossouw8837
    @emilerossouw88372 ай бұрын

    I think realistically, using the land cruiser like most of its customers which is banging around on a farm and gravel roads, then the 2.8 just makes so much more sense. Take tuning out of the equation, because most farmers don't consider it, just as most of them won't watch this.

  • @AquaMarine1000
    @AquaMarine10004 ай бұрын

    Maximum power and torque are factors auto journalists always want to talk about most. A Land Cruiser is more than that. This legendary status was not aquired for it's power or torque but for it reliability, low cost and ease of maintenance. From 2007, Toyota Land Cruiser has moved properly into the era of electronic, only time will tell if this bread of Land Cruiser will match the durability and duration of the legend. Land Cruise inline six cylinder diesel engines are part and parcel of this legend. The reason the four cylinder engine has limited tuning upgrades is it is stressed to the max from the factory, where as the V8 is built for longevity. If you use all the four cylinder has to offer the service life will fall short of expectation. A good rule of thumb for anything machinical use only 70% of it capacity and it will serve you well. Of forty-eight years of Land Cruiser ownership it would be a hard sell to down grade into this generation. Cheers

  • @busso125

    @busso125

    4 ай бұрын

    Spot on

  • @unwoke1652

    @unwoke1652

    4 ай бұрын

    Interesting dictionary, indeed.

  • @redgatecrt
    @redgatecrt3 ай бұрын

    Reminds me when the 4 cylinder turbo Ford Seria came on the scene against Aussie V8’s. Who cares!!!!! We want our V8 grunt!!!

  • @adelarsen9776
    @adelarsen97764 ай бұрын

    As a farmer I want a 4 cylinder manual.

  • @punk46664
    @punk466644 ай бұрын

    Soooo did they narrow the front diff back down given they only widened it to fit the v8?

  • @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing

    @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing

    4 ай бұрын

    no

  • @reginald6045
    @reginald60454 ай бұрын

    This feels a lot like the Nissan RD28ETI-ZD30 VS TD42Ti engine debacle? Virtually all of the rural blokes buy cruisers to get away from that 2.8 engine, man I hope that Toyota did a few upgrades to the fuel filtration system, timing chain, air box…..& DPF. I don’t think that the current 2.8 comes close to being considered reliable hence the class action? What about resale value?

  • @cafeLumes
    @cafeLumes4 ай бұрын

    Could anyone tell me what is the back cargo length of the 76 after the back seats has been pushed forward

  • @deanabrozki286

    @deanabrozki286

    4 ай бұрын

    1800

  • @deanabrozki286

    @deanabrozki286

    4 ай бұрын

    Actually seats removed from back makes it 1800

  • @cafeLumes

    @cafeLumes

    4 ай бұрын

    @@deanabrozki286 fully removed or pushed forward my man

  • @gride5153
    @gride515328 күн бұрын

    What would you pay for a 5 year old 4cyl with 150,000 Km, vs a 5 year old V8 version with 150,000 Kms?

  • @thetigerheart15
    @thetigerheart153 ай бұрын

    I think toyota should have put the v6 f33a-ftv engine that comes in the land cruise 300 series instead of the 2.8 v4. I wonder why they didnt do that?

  • @rossawood5075
    @rossawood50754 ай бұрын

    If you bump up the V8's power, count on an HD clutch replacement, and trust the gearbox holds together. And put some wheel spacers on the rear axle to match the front axles track. Manual window winders, very average seating for 2 and lack of space in cab of utility, maybe 3 at a pinch if the middle passenger straddles the gearbox hump and gear lever, very uncomfortable, ask me how I know. And pay the excessive "Toyota tax" for the priviledge. A Cummins 6 cylinder 6.7 in a Dodge 2500 has 276 KW and 1152 nm standard, 4.5 L Cruiser 151KW 430nm standard. I wonder which one pulls a load better?

  • @gladlyfischer2208
    @gladlyfischer22084 ай бұрын

    Why don't you try the 2.8 against the lc 200

  • @OzYeti
    @OzYeti4 ай бұрын

    V8 with auto would be my pick

  • @samhassall1926

    @samhassall1926

    4 ай бұрын

    Better have some coin

  • @_shreyash_anand

    @_shreyash_anand

    4 ай бұрын

    The 200 series exists

  • @lindsaystaier3193
    @lindsaystaier31934 ай бұрын

    Tried towing with Prado 4cyl blew no.3 piston $16000 new engine. Use 8 cyl

  • @mrkring1526

    @mrkring1526

    4 ай бұрын

    I bet it was the older 1KD which is shit

  • @CarSauce

    @CarSauce

    4 ай бұрын

    Damn that’s a lot of money 😭

  • @jasonfields2793

    @jasonfields2793

    4 ай бұрын

    That would be a 1kd it blew up because it's a 1kd not because it's a 4cyl

  • @heinzketchup4558

    @heinzketchup4558

    4 ай бұрын

    Here in europe all the Toyotas sre the 4cyl 2.4 oder 2.8 And everybody‘s usually really happy with their engines. They‘re even used in some militaries as utilities vehicles.

  • @ianweal3081

    @ianweal3081

    4 ай бұрын

    Interesting how owners of V8 that have elected to replace with 2.8 are so bloody impressed by the 2.8. They are towing their existing work/tradie trailers, caravans much easier, retaining speed and not guzzling fuel. Only V8 die hard warriors are slamming the 2.8 but those who update are quickly converted to 2.8's true ability.

  • @WazimbaTravel
    @WazimbaTravel2 ай бұрын

    Why they change from the 1HZ straight 6 i will never understand, it beats these 2 in reliability and longevity

  • @PaulEglinton
    @PaulEglinton4 ай бұрын

    The heavier motor has a greater utility factor. When max loaded with trailer, driving down hill on an off chamber track. Or top heavy loads in the same scenario. Each model. More bling less utility.

  • @georgeowurani8733
    @georgeowurani8733Ай бұрын

    It is Toyota, and u can never go wrong

  • @nhraandnascarfanatic5907
    @nhraandnascarfanatic59074 ай бұрын

    IMO I can’t see it selling all that well.. having said that though i didn’t think the new ranger raptor would do that well either with no diesel option. But you see plenty of them around so I could be wrong 🤷

  • @uatjiuamujeu5370
    @uatjiuamujeu53704 ай бұрын

    Why the Four cylinder is not manual. I think you must compare manual to manual.

  • @Ali.s_garage
    @Ali.s_garage4 ай бұрын

    1HD fte for life

  • @user-kn5kw1tr6d
    @user-kn5kw1tr6d4 ай бұрын

    No replacement for displacement on the long term

  • @graemearmstead9237
    @graemearmstead92374 ай бұрын

    14 seconds for a 1/4 mile. It's almost unbelievably slow. Would it beat a Morris Minor?

  • @maltainu3621
    @maltainu36214 ай бұрын

    The 4cylinder is great, but i like the v8. You can tell anyone how much better something is but i like the thing more youre telling me its better than regardless

  • @rickdunbar2319
    @rickdunbar2319Ай бұрын

    The 4cyl is running 27psi of boost and the 8cyl is only 8 psi. A redesign of the 8cyl would blow the 4cyl out of the water. I will still take the 4.5 in line 6.

  • @mandlakhumalo8426

    @mandlakhumalo8426

    Ай бұрын

    hie the big engine would def outlast that GD6 ,is that what you saying

  • @MitchPlays254
    @MitchPlays2544 ай бұрын

    Ill keep my 75 series

  • @josuelitos
    @josuelitos4 ай бұрын

    I wish we had these in America😢

  • @mohammeds5458

    @mohammeds5458

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 cry more American you don't deserve the land cruiser at all

  • @johngenoni1927
    @johngenoni1927Ай бұрын

    Just ordered v8

  • @seanwilken6979
    @seanwilken69792 ай бұрын

    The 4 cillinder was tuned to give a very high performance for the engine size. If you tune the v8 you would get much better performance than the 4 cillinder. Compare apples with apples, not apples to a rock

  • @art-is-lazy4509
    @art-is-lazy45094 ай бұрын

    Yeah I have the v8 with everythin so its not plus 10k its plus 150k and it makes 1000nm with an 360degree built gearbox so while its still a truck gearbox it cruises at 1.8Krpm at 100kmph, which places it right in the guts of that massive torque. Sure its slow AF but if I want fast I drive my fancy red 4sec sporty for that. I love my 70 and will never sell it, especially now you can only order one with that 4cyl bitch motor. In fact I have a brand new crate motor, injector pump, injectors and fitting kit sitting in my garage, just incase I ever need it. Yes, I know you can buy a nice car for what that cost but I already have three cars and I work to support my passion for fourbies. No different to how an Oxford Street hairdresser might work to support their passion for porches, four cylinder 70ies, or other things?

  • @adoreslaurel

    @adoreslaurel

    4 ай бұрын

    Does the V8 have a cam belt or chain? some did, may be older models? very expensive tear down if its a belt.

  • @martinpotgieter4606
    @martinpotgieter46062 ай бұрын

    The new 2.8 cruiser is a looming nightmare in South Africa, it will be the ultimate criminal attraction for theft and hijacking.

  • @trevorbayfield4731
    @trevorbayfield473118 күн бұрын

    This 4 cylinder over grown Hi-lux, has any of them done a 1,000,000 km????? When it has then compare it to the V8

  • @2157AF
    @2157AF4 ай бұрын

    Since you cant order a new 4.5 l, does it really matter. With Euro 6 Emmissions rules in 2025, the V8 is probably gone.

  • @LAMethWitch

    @LAMethWitch

    4 ай бұрын

    u can order v8

  • @2157AF

    @2157AF

    4 ай бұрын

    @@LAMethWitch Toyota Australia has paused order-taking for the LandCruiser 70 4.5L turbo-diesel V8 as a customer-focused measure, due to supply and demand factors that have resulted in extended wait times for customers.

  • @chrisbergin8084
    @chrisbergin80844 ай бұрын

    The question is whether the 4cyl is just another hand grenade like all the other manufacturers have good on paper but not for a long time for some strange reasons a couple of manufacturers have gone to v6 engines i wonder why lol

  • @MrWerd910

    @MrWerd910

    4 ай бұрын

    Why would the 4cyl be a hand grenade? The only engine was the Patrol 3.0 but that had nothing to do with the engine reliability and everything to do with an overboosting issue. Many 3.0 Patrols running around with no issues.

  • @DJTrumpMAGA

    @DJTrumpMAGA

    4 ай бұрын

    The only hand grenade is Rangers 2.0 shitbox engine with stupid 10speed auto

  • @chrisbergin8084

    @chrisbergin8084

    4 ай бұрын

    @MrWerd910 i actually had a 3lt pootrol as a company car at one stage every 6 months needed a new turbo. Most small 4 cylinder diesel engines under 4.5 litres displacement generally have some sort of issues when you start pushing them either with high load. The previous 2.4 and 3lt hilux and hiace would crack pistons Ford ranger and Nissan navara have bottom end problems probably why ford has gone to a v6 Isuzu break the injector pumps off the block

  • @chrisbergin8084

    @chrisbergin8084

    4 ай бұрын

    @J_Biden from what I know it's not limited to the 2.0 the 3.2 isnt much better id say that is why they have gone to a v6 in the next models

  • @unwoke1652

    @unwoke1652

    4 ай бұрын

    Where I live, which is not under a rock, that 2.8 has proven itself many times over in Hilux and Prado. Only the engine bay is different here, engine is the same. Why should it not last in a different engine bay?

  • @user-iw4wm2dl3y
    @user-iw4wm2dl3y4 ай бұрын

    You say to buy a V8, you cannot order a V8 in any model so we are all stuck with the 4 cylinder at this stage.

  • @bobnonomen9244
    @bobnonomen92443 ай бұрын

    I would be soooo happy if I could afford myself any of these😢 The smallest and weekest engine and stick manual transmission, 2/3 door.... literally any equipment, just as it is a new Toyota LC 70. We have those things about 40yo driving around here in Croatia, if not wrecked they got anually tech and registration checked :) If I could today buy it as a new one ...? I guarantee I'll never have to buy another car ever again. I am making so about most 10.000km a year. For a Toyota thats 40 years happy life 😂 If I see to live 40 more 😂😂😂😂

  • @balmoresegovia8853
    @balmoresegovia88534 ай бұрын

    I don’t like balancing shaft in the 4 cilinders

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