Whats shocking is the UAE land cruiser 70 series have bigger screens, leather interior reversing cameras, while Australia and South Africa spec get those poverty spec small screen 😢

@SydneyEV

4 ай бұрын

Dont worry, with the new Emissions rules coming, we will finally get the better versions

@hi9580

4 ай бұрын

Less stuff to break

@hipetwa

4 ай бұрын

@hi9580 but it's a Toyota and you know how hot the UAE is

@alialobad3812

4 ай бұрын

It is the UAE’s dealer not Toyota and all these options are made in china

@aslkdfjhg

4 ай бұрын

Left hand drive only design. From memory you guys get the tub version as well

I used to think Australia’s speed limits were too low. Then I drove a Hilux.

@rsoul7282

4 ай бұрын

What year though? They aren’t as gutless after the 2020 model.

@mickloney9826

4 ай бұрын

@@rsoul7282 oh no, it wasn’t that it was gutless, it was that it handled like a shopping trolley on crack and had brakes like a bar of soap on wet tiles. Dynamically a bag of shit was was superior. Just a dangerous rig. 2.8l of pure bullshit. Who buys that crap? Everyone apparently!

@JBHIFI-fo4lb

4 ай бұрын

True I drove a 2023 base model hilux and it was the worst car I’ve driven. Suspension was rough and had 0 traction in the paddocks

@666dualsport

4 ай бұрын

yes they are hard to get to the speed limit as underpowered crap

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

😂

The real surprise is not that the V8 is slow, it’s that the 4-cylinders are so dam fast! Plus, I would imagine that the V8 is pretty heavy on the fuel consumption.

@caseyhopkins6299

4 ай бұрын

There’s no much difference with a load I use about 17l/100 on 79/200 and Hilux

@FoLlOwThEwHiTeRaBbIt1

4 ай бұрын

What’s more concerning is are they just pushing more out of the 2.8 L and is the V8 very detuned?

@mitchell5064

4 ай бұрын

@@FoLlOwThEwHiTeRaBbIt1v8 is extremely outdated so it’s detuned to pass emissions.

@nickgood8166

4 ай бұрын

There's more headspace on the V8 for upping the power, with Unichip and remap, bigger intercooler etcetera. That said, my 2013 D4-D Hilux achieved a 44% power increase with just a Unichip and DPF delete. It transformed the vehicle. Either way, if you do a Unichip + remap, put in an Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor and guage.

@oldbloke204

4 ай бұрын

@@nickgood8166 DPF delete? Are you sure you want to be advertising that and does a 13 Hilux even have a DPF?

should do Hilux, Prado, Fortuner and the new 79 as they all have the same motor now

@jamesm375

4 ай бұрын

plus hiace😆

@Tedkelvin

4 ай бұрын

Fortuner wins

The only drag race I've ever been interested in. Well done.

Thanks for taking the time to make this happen Great video for us 2.8 owners 😂

Paul, it may be a joke, but it was a lot of fun to watch. Great idea Paul .

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching…and laughing! 😂

@craigsampson3386

4 ай бұрын

​@@CarExpertAus hey Paul I'd be interested to see a comparison with a modified/tuned V8, to see how much quicker it actually makes it in the real world instead of just dyno sheet numbers haha

@Fuk_of

4 ай бұрын

@@CarExpertAus I think it’s a big scam the more gears you have in a toe rig the better so why put a 5 speed in a v8 toeing vehicle I find that stupid and if the v8 had a proper gearbox or say a zf trans the 2.8 6 speed would be behind the v8 6speed

Still take the V8 any day. Mosty for the beautiful sound they can produce.

@Bigsoot7393

4 ай бұрын

Yeah they are great for turning fuel into noise and heat, nothing else

@boxmat182ify

4 ай бұрын

Anyone who thinks the v8 sounds good has rocks in their head. What an absoloute slug. Loud doesn't mean good.

@martinsimwaka4895

3 ай бұрын

Me too love the sound

This is a great way to show torque and it’s advantage because they all have the same HP.

Well done Paul, great video. You certainly know what ppl want and you think outside the square which places you above everyone else! Well done mate.

You nailed it Paul...c'mon c'mon. Well done.

Man That V8 is just fucking Turd of an engine bloody hell.

@barcrusher

4 ай бұрын

You have no idea what you’re talking about.Put an auto in the v8 to make it an even playing field.

@ashdell4493

4 ай бұрын

@@barcrusherthose engines are still rubbish they are so over rated

@aslkdfjhg

4 ай бұрын

Haha if they see a puddle off😂 in the distance the alternator shits itself.

@FoLlOwThEwHiTeRaBbIt1

4 ай бұрын

@@ashdell4493 I agree the engines are very slow but calling the engine rubbing you have know idea what your talking about. If you want right, reliability toyota is the only way to go.

@ashdell4493

4 ай бұрын

@@FoLlOwThEwHiTeRaBbIt1 yeah ok 😂😂 they are RUBBISHHHHH

Well to be fair Paul, these days more people drag race and speed in utes rather than people in sports cars, so this is why it’s now common and popular to have ute drag races on many KZread channels, you’re right these vehicles aren’t designed to be speed demons but people will still flog them off the lights and gun it down the freeway anyway.

@jdventer1954

4 ай бұрын

Especially in South Africa. We have “bakkie” (UTE’s) drag racing events on private farms. There is one I’m attending in April with my N70 (hybrid turbo and mapping)

@russell3436

4 ай бұрын

@@jdventer1954 in Australia these vehicles were very common for tradies, but nowadays many consumers buy them, they have become a very popular and common theme here, it’s almost impossible now not to see some guy in a Toyota HiLux or Ford Ranger etc… zigzagging through traffic and flooring the crap out of it, funny thing is these guys in utes would race anyone on the road thinking they can outpace a sports car in a 2 ton 4cyl diesel, I do race them (when it is safe to do so in a straight line highway road) just to settle their ego’s down a notch.

@jdventer1954

4 ай бұрын

@@russell3436 same here in SA. Was originally meant for the "working man" or for farmers but that's no longer the case. I know I don't have a sportscar and that's why when I race it's against other utes I rarely try it with any other smaller/faster vehicles.

I think what most people forget is when I was growing up our light truck was a 2.8 naturally aspirated diesel with glow plugs that had to be heated to start. Gearing and a well built motor go a long way to handling weight and the demands of towing.

I still love the v8

@Renegade040

4 ай бұрын

Hahahahaha, that thing is so bad, that 0-100 time was terrible in the 60's and 1/4 mile time is laughable. Look, if Toyota had the 200 LC V8 with the auto, now you are talking, but this setup is a joke.

@anthonykhalil70

4 ай бұрын

@Renegade040 yep it a sound thing. Also alot of room to modify. I have a 200. I can't understand why thy didn't use that set up.

@Renegade040

4 ай бұрын

@@anthonykhalil70 agree, they do sound great, would be even better with the 200 LC setup. Their is still too many parts that need replacing with the 70 series LC's, stick with your 200.

@anthonykhalil70

4 ай бұрын

Remember a corvette in 1982 had only 220hp. My wife's outback has about the same as a 4 cylinder. I know which one I prefer.

Remember the Hilux has better aerodynamics than the 70 series. Drag coefficient of the hilux is roughly 40% greater also the downforce from the windscreen. Hence there's more turbulence attack on the 70 series frame(both). Same kurb weight but aerodynamics speaks louder in this test. Keep it up brother Paul. Cheers all the way from Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea

@oggyoggy1299

4 ай бұрын

Just stop.

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

🙌

Thank you

I often dropped that v8 at the traffic light with my donkey 3.2 everest. Donkey power since day one in my opinion.

Users knew well that Hilux was better than the landcruiser v8 .It's good Toyota listens and improved it with the inline 4cyclinder

Finally a screenshot that accurately portrays the size of Paul's head!

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

😂 big brains, bro!

V8 has a broader torque curve. The 4 cylinders have more peak power and torque. So from stand start the 4 cylinder rev out 1st and drop into its peak power band going into 2nd and so on. Plus the 4 cylinders are automatic so no time lost during shift.

@arunps7719

4 ай бұрын

I'd argue the time lost is kinda same as this Toyota 6 speed slush box is extra slushy and soft and doesn't lock the converter fast

@mclongkock6678

4 ай бұрын

@arunps7719 back in the 80s and 90s auto is only 4sp so manual wins. Nowadays the crappiest 6sp auto will still win.

@nickgood8166

4 ай бұрын

​@@mclongkock6678My Dad's early 80s top spec Ford Granada auto had 3 forward ratios.

@d15z1sux

4 ай бұрын

The V8 is down on torque too.

@mclongkock6678

4 ай бұрын

@d15z1sux it comes in sooner. For example the v8 has 450nm from 1200rpm to 3000rpm, The 2.8 has 500nm from 2000rpm to 3500rpm. The v8 has more torque at lower rpm and peak at 450nm for longer range. The 2.8 only has more torque only from 2000rpm on wards. The 2.8 has to rev and be in its power band to beat the v8. Peak number on power and torque is one thing the other is where it's at and how long it last. Diesel normally don't like to rev high so really that v8 will tow all day at 2000rpm all day long. It's in it peak torque at that rev. Like my 200 series, shell seat at 2000rpm towing up hill all day long sometimes 2600rpm n that's going 110km up a hill pulling a boat.

3 snails with whiplash

@markpacker6951

4 ай бұрын

Lol, I'm still trying to even see the point of dragging 3 deisels. They are not made for drag racing full stop. The guy who made this video should have loaded 4.5 ton on trailers to tow and see which 1 is fastest. This bloke obviously lives in the city and wants to get to work quick on pathed roads

@markpacker6951

4 ай бұрын

The funny part is I won't even waste time watching this video. The title turned me right off cause there's so many vids on the same subject

@craigsampson3386

4 ай бұрын

​@@markpacker6951 they've already made a video previously doing weight/towing comparison tests. This video was just for fun and some people are curious for the results.

@lsj6721

4 ай бұрын

@@craigsampson3386 he is just hurt because these are TOYs

@DEPORTER_SUPPORTER

3 ай бұрын

​@@markpacker6951*diesel

Can someone do a comparison on the manual Hilux sr vs a Land Cruiser 70 v8 they are more similar in torque and power. And it will be more apple to apple to see if displacement really comes into play in real world situation. As there’s a saying there’s no replacement for displacement.

"I'm really not that far behind..."

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

😂

The next test should be on what is the arch nemesis of all three of these trucks....a gentle curve.

First time a lux has won anything

@garrygraham7901

4 ай бұрын

Apart from being the most popular vehicle in Australia for about 11 or 12 out the last 15 years...😎

@mickeynismocat

4 ай бұрын

@@garrygraham7901 Popular doesn't mean good!

@craigdavid6668

4 ай бұрын

@@garrygraham7901😂👍

@42cuba

4 ай бұрын

@@mickeynismocat compared to what?

@mickeynismocat

4 ай бұрын

@@42cuba Popular SUV's, are you blind?!

Are these new 4 cylinder land cruisers going to tun into similar problems that the 2ltr bi turbo ranger has/had. Loaded up that little motor is going to work so much harder and on a high strung engine with weight will it lead to premature failure. Id love to see the 4 cylinder 79 with a round hay bail in the back of it over 12 months in some what hilly terrain. Is the transmission upto it will it hunt gears like the 2ltr ranger?

@shreckm6470

Ай бұрын

The Ranger is a 10 speed that's why it chases gears you drive it in sport when under load. The 4 cylinder hilux motor has always had issues anyway but I think it will be fine in the Cruiser. It's the luck of the draw with all diesels now.

Hey Nice comparisson , hey folks a question: do you think better hilux aerodynamics it´s an important factor to get better times (0-100km/h) and (1/4 mile)? We think that the weight difference between Hilux and LC79 must be unsprung weight (the front live axle) vs IFS of the Hilux that is more lighter another question: Do you Think 50Kg unsprung weight makes the difference to the hilux get better times? Hey Folks Thaks for your attention, please be in touch.

Were all cars on the exact same tyre?

When Aus was still making cars this test would not have happened😅.

@Bigsoot7393

4 ай бұрын

Why not? Were we taking falcon and commodore utes 4wding then?

HAHA love this! Fun to see non-race cars racing haha

Questions would be. What is the final drive and transfer high range gearing on the V8 vs the 4 pots? Also does the V8 use any kind of torque limiting in lower gears. Lots of vehicles do, in 1st/2nd it might be making 50hp less. Which would explain the poor performance off the line, but able to match speeds from a 3rd gear roll. Last question would be aimed at Toyota. What development haven't they done to the V8 to have such a poor power output compared to the 4 pot engines?

How about towing 3ton drag race?

@johndingey8110

2 ай бұрын

a guy dod that on another channel-The V8 got smoked.

Why don’t you use more of the rev range in the v8 especially in 1st? I know from my 79 the v8 drops off a bit at about 3600 - 3700 but I have found best acceleration when going to about 4200 -4300 in 1st.

Soccer mums (who only use these vehicles for city driving) will be interested in these results 🤷

Would be interesting to see the new 79 4 pot using haul mode!

I would love to see a stock Jimny in the mix here 😂

@curlcurllocal

4 ай бұрын

Jimny has 100hp and 0nm of torque. Poor little Jim, he is so cool though I still love them

@S9RUT

4 ай бұрын

@@curlcurllocal and would still beat that V8 cruiser to 100.......

@curlcurllocal

4 ай бұрын

@@S9RUT We have a Jimny, there’s absolutely no way it’s beating anything to 100.

@S9RUT

4 ай бұрын

@@curlcurllocal me too, 13 seconds to 100.

Those lock into 3rd roll races are a waste of time when there are different engines and gearing

Would love to see this again with a modified v8 added to the mix given it’s so undertuned, and the 4 bangers are highly tuned. I’ve owned both so always curious.. also the v8 used less fuel for me.

Give the v8 more revs when launching in second will help with the lag

I think the v8 was faster in the rolling race because the 76 mades more power down low and the 2.8 has to rev more? Or maybe its the gearing?

These guys do great reviews, however, all this stuff on the LC70 is simply a comparison between an automatic and manual transmission.

Just need to run an imported 70 series with the 1grfe V6 petrol

Can u try the 1/4 mile again cause a 1/4 mile is only just over 400 metres

For the hilux, older model, you can used 4H to launch then once you hit 50km, you switch to 2H

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

That would create more inefficiency.

This is even more proof that the 4 cylinder 70 is so usless man why would you ever buy it

Given a reasonable curve/delivery, 500Nm should always be faster than 430Nm all else equal. Toyota's truly amazing achievement isn't that the 4 cylinder if faster. It is the mind bending ability to get so little power and torque out of such a large engine. Kinda reminds me of sub 200hp large capacity American pushrod V8s shortly after emission controls came in.

You made the absolute most crucial comment. A totally unstressed V8. The v8 will kill the 4 cylinder for life span. Tume the V8 of give the same minimum specs of the 200 or 300 series, then give it a drag race

Torque converter can help with up to double the torque on full slip. It would be good to see the 2.8 with the old manual that the 70 series has that would be a fair test. We all know an auto is better in drags. If they have the torque limiting removed that’s as about as fair as you can get. Not bias as I don’t have one but do drive a n80 for work and have driven the others and there’s more to it than just a drag.

@petercoombs4213

4 ай бұрын

Autos are utter shit off-road loaded. Constant gear changing and no ability to bump start. We use the 79 loaded to nearly 4t as fire units off-road. God help them if HO inflict those buzzy engines and poo jabber box on us in the future

What about the amount of fuel? That concerns the overall weight. Does not it?

You should do the same test but towing a 2000kg van.

Be great to see a 79 V8 with an auto and then seeth

@stealthslayer4406

4 ай бұрын

Same result

@Sh1tstir

4 ай бұрын

Be better if they all went to a diesel tuning shop and got a tune put through them would the results vary.... and why was he's taking the V8 past its power curve before changing gears, its a turbo diesel there is no power in the top end you can't expect it to pull if you change gears at the redline.

I wish they had Isuzu Dimax to compare the difference in acceleration.

Is that Oil Temp or Oil Pressure on the Dash? I see the 4-cylinder is quite higher when compared to the V8.

@seqroughwaterrides9845

4 ай бұрын

It’s oil pressure

Add the time to wind the windows up too

I would still prefer the old 79 series. Reliability and durability in Papua New, Guinea

Man, listening to that V8 during the drag race is torture... shame, it's not made for racing.

Love to see the same race with 3t hooked to the back...

@oldbloke204

4 ай бұрын

One of our 4wders did just that with his V8 modified for towing and the 4 cyl still ate it. Look up Ronny Dahl on here if you're interested.

@mitchell5064

4 ай бұрын

V8 would be even further behind the rest

@Rabsallawah

4 ай бұрын

Watch the longer video they did with these three vehicles. The V8 gets flogged every single test they do. Pig of a thing.

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

We did that in our last video.

@benjim_

4 ай бұрын

4 cylinder smashes it

Can't beat the Australian lingo jack up the back all good to go let's get cracking 😂✌️

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

😂

Any chance you do a drag race of them under load with like a 2 tonne trailer or something like that

@Bigsoot7393

4 ай бұрын

Did you not watch the video haha

@Sooty_VDJ79

4 ай бұрын

@@Bigsoot7393 Yes but they didn’t do a side by side video comparison which would have been nice

Anyone else notice how high that oil temp was on the 79 ute

After 10 yrs & 300,000km I’d be happy in the land cruiser

Why don't you test the Hilux 4.0 V6?

I don't get it. The white LC is a V8? It looks the exactly the same as the 2024. Has the front been changed?

@UrbanJeepster

4 ай бұрын

The 2024 facelift has the V8 option

@Bigsoot7393

4 ай бұрын

You can choose v8 or 4 cyl now, why anyone would pick the v8 is beyond me haha

The problem is the 70 series should have been redesigned years ago with the drive train of the 200 series, then your 4 cylinders would be miles behind

Paul, as a lol can we have every 1GD 2.8L powered Toyota in a drag race? HiLux, Fortuner, Prado, LC70, Coaster (don’t forget Coaster!) etc. That would be hilarious

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

😂 now that would be funny!

Paul, next time, try the hilux, prado , cruiser and the fortuner who all have the same engine, i think the fortuner is quicker

@amirulizzad6122

4 ай бұрын

Based on the 0-100 test on their individual video review, the SUV is always slower than the ute it's based on.

@shaungranger2166

4 ай бұрын

And hiace coasters and Hino

Battle of the diesel slugs😆😆😆

Tune the V8 with a G350 and do it again!! 300 rwhp and 900nm for $10k! The V8 is underpowered, it has a shit load more potential Sick of these reviews stock vs stock, we get it

are these 1990 models, or 2023 models?

@orangejuicepony6881

4 ай бұрын

2024

@sjfifita6223

4 ай бұрын

2027 models

@stevowyeth

4 ай бұрын

2024 models designed in 1990.

@daviddixon9458

4 ай бұрын

Is there any difference between the 1990 and the 2023 models? 😅😅😅😅

@midnighteightsix6919

4 ай бұрын

1981 models

Why would you bother buying the 70 series ute now that it has the Hilux engine. The Hilux has more tech and comfort to the dinosaur 70 series.

Diff ratios in the cruiser vs the hilux will play a huge part in how the power and torque is put to the ground. So it’s still an uneven match.

Toyota manufacturers are just making a mockery with those 2.8 diesel engines those are too expensive in maintenance and they have made a vast majorities of the 2.8 - 4 cylinders to believe that they have changed the world 🌎 to buy that engines- years ago the land cruiser lc 70&79 didn't easily carry the same engines as other various models Toyota vehicles..

I don't understand the meaning behind drag racing these ute. Aren't these ute bought for work horses

@ppppw2

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but the whole argument at the moment with these cars is the introduction of the 4 cyl. All the V8 pompous idiots think the V8 is the best thing since sliced bread and immediatly started shit talking the 4cyl, but the V8 has 1 more hp , but the 4cyl has way more torque. This is why this video had to be made!

@richardnguyen5321

4 ай бұрын

@@ppppw2 I understand that but let's see what will still be running after half a million kms Is what the test should be. If you want to drag race buy a skyline or a supra. These things a built for longevity not for a 400mtr race. You got to be nuts to compare these car for a race car

@richardnguyen5321

4 ай бұрын

People aren't in the right head space if you are comparing these car for a quarter mile.

@oldbloke204

4 ай бұрын

@@richardnguyen5321 Seen what happens if you dust the V8?

@aus_life

4 ай бұрын

Carwow inspired, they race everything.

Come back after half a million km and let still which one still standing. Drag racing a 4wd is the dumbest thing I have seen. Never thought people buy 4wd for drag racing

@CarExpertAus

4 ай бұрын

lol. Who said they did? Plenty of Hiluxes with over 500k on the clock. No need to apologise for the V8 anchor 😂

Toyota should fit side and curtain airbags in the Land Cruiser 76 wagon.

Never in my life have I seen a 4 cylinder land cruiser.... 😂

Paul your gear changes tho lol

Wow whats the point? Like to see which truck can pull a heavyer load

if the V8 was an automatic that would have been a hell of a race.. The problem with V8 is gear conversion ratio, automatic is faster when it comes to gear conversion ratio. The Hilux is lighter in weight compared to its counter part, the 4 cylinder Landcruiser.

Toyota not taking orders on V8 70 series and never will again. My dealer gave me news yesterday.

It's hilarious how slow the V8's are I often have them pull out behind me when in a roadtrain and they are towing its very slow process.

Wow !! Having 4 more cylinders didn’t help at all 😂😂😂

Racing pick up with wagon is actually unfair on the wagon.

When they do these tests i just dont understand why they never use the same variation of vehicle. You've got a 4 door ute, a 2 door ute and a wagon!

What's the point in buying the 2.8 cruiser at this point? Why not just buy the hilux if it has the same motor and is cheaper?

@Butcherbird503

4 ай бұрын

Landcruiser 70 are still made in Japan , have a solid front axle ,bigger payload and 130L fuel tank

Between hilux and lj70 is ALL about AERODYNAMICS as anybody knows, but in roll, "your" car had more torque and power OFF BOOST, which lj70 did not have, because smaller engine.

Where is de nissan navara

I think the three of them is 4 cylinder Paul your driving a 4 cylinder 😊 sorry if I'm wrong maybe try and check 😊

The Hilux driver was on the throttle early in every run.

I think Paul just has heavier and bigger balls than the other 2.

Sooo what’s the point in the 4 cylinder 70 series?

@Bigsoot7393

4 ай бұрын

Because it’s better than the v8 in every single way?

@RICHYSUNCLE

4 ай бұрын

@@Bigsoot7393 buy a hilux

The V8 would last longer if towing 3.5 tonne often. big 4 cylinder motors are cheaper to build than 3-4 liter straight 6's but they are better if ya have to tow.

My V8 Cruiser 79 makes 288 kW of power and 930 Nm torque on the Dyno....

Non of them would pull the skin off a rice pudding.

👍👍👍

Why don't they update the v8 and then do the test

The 4 cylinder is basically a parado motor

Toyotas are known for slow v8s, Toyota soarer comes to mind also.

The B L O O D Y H I L U X ftw 🏆