Dominions 5 Nation Guide: MA Arco - Plus Patreon Announcement.

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Another night, another guide, but first, an announcement that I am now actually on Patreon: / perunau
I mostly made the step because a few people have asked to commission videos on particular topics and this seemed like a good way to do it. Plus, I've gotten more comfortable with an upload schedule of at least two videos a week now, so I feel more comfortable offering people a chance to contribute.
Enough self promotion, let's talk Arco.
Arco is a nation of hopli...wait no it's not, it's a human communion nation, no bells, no whistles, just a versatile communion mage with great research. Then there's the fantastic combo of having a recruitable mind hunter and just about the best supply of true healers of every nation out there.
Ultimately, the hoplites of Arco exist to provide a buffer between your communion mages and the enemy, and with that role in mind, they're perfectly functional.
Consider rush protection (with some magic diversity and scales such as magic and some production) or a delayed diversity pick, to help you broaden out later in the game. Death for example would be a good pickup.

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  • @josearnaldo9242
    @josearnaldo92423 жыл бұрын

    Your audio is Great, we can hear you clearly.

  • @PerunAU
    @PerunAU3 жыл бұрын

    On reflection I may be a little harsh on the hoplites (and the sacreds) this video, as line holders they're perfectly viable and aren't the worst way to get decent value out of some production scales, just remember that against anything with armour you'll want your mages there to do the actual killing. With a little strength though, heart companions will actually anchor the heart of a line well enough. Patreon is live at: www.patreon.com/PerunAU

  • @Shapemyst

    @Shapemyst

    3 жыл бұрын

    you are a little soft (for the new mic thing)

  • @Doombot221

    @Doombot221

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, was thinking heart companions would be great for a strength/magic weapons bless to give them utility against heavier targets and ethereal units. A bit of higher E/S/B on a pretender without killing scales also gives them some flexibility in late game strategy

  • @Lettilovesyou

    @Lettilovesyou

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Doombot221 I've had luck in early/mid game with them with a bless that helps their repel. They have good attack density, decent prot, and a really long pointy stick. You can totally make that work. Also, since Arco gets healers your line troops suffer less attrition which means more experience which means better stabby bois. Obviously late game they need help to stay relevant but that long pointy stick can't be overlooked, imo.

  • @STzim
    @STzim3 жыл бұрын

    Lore [Stagnation] Units 8:25 [Small Roster, big Complexity] Mages: 18:18 [Diversity, Communions and the Healer] Summons and Heroes 27:00 [ok Death Summons, Lampads, hidden path] Grand Strategy 40:00 [Strategos says trampler expansion, rush protection (pretender), communion midgame (evocation/summons) - 45:20 for some options (mindhunt), lategame 52:00] Think I'll try and win against the KI with nothing but flaming trash (slinger + flaming arrow). Thanks for the guide. ^^'

  • @toldi719
    @toldi7193 жыл бұрын

    I had decent success with using elephants for expansion with Arco (around 18-20 provinces by year one in an all skills MP game). A nice tid bit about Arco (in all ages) is that if you are the pretender in a disciples team, your whole dominion gets the scry effect. This can greatly help in initial expansion (as your dominion spreads between your disciples, if you have clustered start) and will help 'see' what your enemies have on your borders. Cheap labs and 500 wall strength forts means that you build forts for your disciples who don't get cheap labs/high wall strength forts (like Pan etc.)

  • @Kris_Lighthawk
    @Kris_Lighthawk3 жыл бұрын

    Since skeletons are pierce resistant, flaming slingers are possibly even better than flaming pygmies against Sceleria, and with matrices you can also do some pretty powerful holy communions. You can also mind burn/soul slay the commanders, if they are not fielding human troops.

  • @TheMelnTeam
    @TheMelnTeam3 жыл бұрын

    One thing that's really nice about this nation trying to diversify is that your S4 cap mages can get to S6 natively (skullcap/crystal coin), one of only a few nations that has native access to rings of sorcery and wizardry w/o empowering. Should have good trade implications, but also makes it easy to get/boost death (one troll shaman is enough, give it sorcery ring, have it forge skull staff and you're D3 with ability to boost to D5 via mound fiend, so even with a drakon or something you can do lichcraft/well of misery/etc as the game goes on). 3rd booster also lets liches cast Tartarian gate if you want. Thanks to wizardry, you can also get to flame spirits/flame helmet and use the double-boost on F2 W1 mage to get to F4. Two water boosters then get you to F4 W4 for staff of elemental mastery. If you site search well this puts all elemental royalty in range due to the boosters, and also means you can pull off the big remote attacks too. With all that in mind, I would broadly agree that your main goal is to survive/do well early, because you have national access to boosting pretty much everything. Heck, you can even gift of reason Ker, give it ring of sorc + wizardry, hand it a skull staff, and summon vampires if you really want that blood economy. Probably not worth it unless you get early slave market + lots of slaves from events, but the flexibility for a nation with native access to the sorcery/everything boosters is pretty high as long as you a) live and b) get enough land/gem income to fuel it. Getting the pearls for those boosters is key, but other people will want boosters too so you can probably trade into more pearls at a premium of pearls to get access faster.

  • @carlpult5235
    @carlpult52353 жыл бұрын

    YES!!!! PRAISE THE PANTOCRATOR!!! (really happy you fixed your audio)

  • @blaf55
    @blaf553 жыл бұрын

    the panktorian blessed us with soo many nation analasys . great times to be alive

  • @pirateray
    @pirateray3 жыл бұрын

    One cool fact about the Heart Companions is they have Formation Fighter 4; the highest of any standard-recruit troop in the game! Because they like being so close to each other you can get 5 in a square as opposed to to usual 4 for a Hoplite, they're almost Goblin-tier in terms of attack density.

  • @ivan-to2zy
    @ivan-to2zy4 ай бұрын

    With dominions 6 out it would be great to have you come back to the community some time!

  • @bellduke6417
    @bellduke64173 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see your take on Ind, such an interesting and confusing nation.

  • @EgorIvlev
    @EgorIvlev3 жыл бұрын

    MA Ulm pls next, and would be interesting to see Nation guide for DE, like DE MA Ulm.

  • @phillipjiang1593

    @phillipjiang1593

    3 жыл бұрын

    DE definitely, not many dominion youtubers talk about DE despite it being extremely popular and in desperate need of guides

  • @Brutik5
    @Brutik53 жыл бұрын

    Most importantly imo audio volume is now just right

  • @karezza1089

    @karezza1089

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, much better.

  • @Kris_Lighthawk
    @Kris_Lighthawk3 жыл бұрын

    Gift of reason is only 20N gems, so you can basically get a Lampad mage for 21 gems, easily worth it I think

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, well worth at 21.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sidenote, do you know if inspired researcher actually stacks? Haer thought it might not, in which case you'd need to spread your Muses across multiple research labs if you were playing with worthy heroes on?

  • @Kris_Lighthawk

    @Kris_Lighthawk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU I seem to remember that it don't stack, but I am not entirely sure, it is a long time since I have had more than one inspired researcher in a game.

  • @MrBeastiemon

    @MrBeastiemon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU im pretty sure they dont stack, i think i remember trying this when i played arco at some point and seem to remember it didnt work. maybe different values of inspiring researcher stack? probably would just take the highest value though

  • @flamedeluge1332

    @flamedeluge1332

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU Inspired researcher does not stack among commanders, it's a maximum function. I know in Isphenople they get items that give bonus inspiring research and that stacks on top of the base unit value.

  • @mergele1000
    @mergele10003 жыл бұрын

    A ker is not just a blood hunter. It's a communiable death mage. That is stealthy and flying and can be brought in where they aren't expected. And also a reinvigorater for your slaves.

  • @sr71silver
    @sr71silver3 жыл бұрын

    The audio's back to phone and ear piece levels. Well done.

  • @throeawae2130
    @throeawae21303 жыл бұрын

    Perun's galaxy brain coming in loud and clear

  • @Doombot221
    @Doombot2213 жыл бұрын

    Audio is great!

  • @tornielsen2888
    @tornielsen28883 жыл бұрын

    Kinda funny. I have personally more observed that SC's starts to die out towards the late game. As Enslave Mind and equivalent crap grows more and more common. Well i guess there is a "hell" phase afterwards. Where everyone is covering in forts behind reinforced wards, as ritual spellcasting tear the world apart. I generally make it a goal to end the game before it turns to hell.

  • @CantusTropus

    @CantusTropus

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what Cataclysm game setting exists for lol

  • @raffelon9508
    @raffelon95083 жыл бұрын

    29:53 yes, but I like to see national overviews as standalone things that I could use when I'm about to play/build a god for a specific nation and don't want to search the whole channel for the video that contains that one information, so I'd really prefer if you go over something you deem relevant to a nation every time again, even if that means that it's the same information ten times in a row (I mean if this was the first of your videos that I'd have watched, then I wouldn't know which video talks about it and would have to watch them all from start to finish... btw. I have watched the video where you talk about it because I essentially soak up every national overview that I can find on KZread... wanting to learn doesn't make one good at playing tough)

  • @thifmaster1466
    @thifmaster146627 күн бұрын

    The Audio really hasn't changed over the years (;

  • @brinkbleash
    @brinkbleash3 жыл бұрын

    mic sounds great

  • @throeawae2130
    @throeawae21303 жыл бұрын

    I have a question. Does ma arco's dominion scrying see stealth and glamoured units?

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's just an accurate scout report unfortunately.

  • @raffelon9508
    @raffelon95083 жыл бұрын

    0:09 definitely easier hearable audio, the new microphone does its job

  • @cjwauer4730
    @cjwauer47303 жыл бұрын

    Pretty good video, but you did forget to talk about scales. I like luck quite a bit because of the hero lineup, but turmoil seems real bad.

  • @professoremeryeetus5292
    @professoremeryeetus52923 жыл бұрын

    The funny thing is, Hoplites are usually associated with Arco but it actually takes them to the Middle age to develop them. It's even weirder when indie hoplites are EA exclusive.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    Therodos seems to have been the actual source of the hoplite tradition. They clearly had them before they fell, and that tradition lives on in the EA.

  • @alluvium1465
    @alluvium14653 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget that the 2 commander heroes have hero weapons as well. Him, a burning pearl, and like 10 militia will murder basically any size 3+ thug out there.

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy97993 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @belgarat101
    @belgarat1013 жыл бұрын

    bunch of pegasi chilling around arco, such trolls

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Yeah man, we're totally extinct, sucks right?"

  • @Chikanuk
    @Chikanuk3 жыл бұрын

    Definately better. Its literally impossible for me to watch your Oceania videos cuz its very hard to hear even with 100% audio on my PC. This video i watch on 35% and i can hear everything. About Patreon - plz take care, i seen too many really good people, who become complete assholes after they start making money from all this public stuff. Arco is another "power of mediocrity" nation, but this really, really want good indie units. For example good knight province can turn around whole early game for arco. And ofc amazons. Especially crystal ones, since arco really need big air spells. Well, and air elementals is always userful. Okay, but kinda boring nation. Can really enjoy some unit diversity at least. Not for balance, but for nation flavour. About mindhunt - fuck mindhunt and fuck RNG. Every fuckin game i throw dozens of mindhunts from mages with every mag pen item possible and at beast 1 of 12 hunts kill something. Even vs 14 mr targets. RNGesus really hates me.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good to know the audio is fixed, new microphone was absolutely worth it even if I won't be here long. I support the 'power of mediocrity' view. It's a basic human communion package with a stock standard Helenic troop lineup. I do think it tends towards being a rush target due to early weakness without some extra God power though. And don't worry about me and Patreon, I got a fairly good head on my shoulders I think, and I'm grateful for whatever comes. Finally, mindhunt giveth and it taketh away. In one game I played you might remember I popped a pretender god that was immortal and holding up a pair of globals with a concentrated mind-hunt barrage. That makes up for almost every failure i've ever had with the spell.

  • @Chikanuk

    @Chikanuk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU Maybe later you can made subtitles for Oceania video? I bet many ppl have some problem with it as me.

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