Disney Investors Attack Bob Iger For Female Pandering
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Disney is continuing to be destroyed all over the internet by fans and moviegoers, however to make things worse for Disney, it's own investors and shareholders are getting angry with Disney constantly focusing on messages and not entertaining fans as that is resulting in Disney movie losing money. With no better example right now than Star Wars and in particular the Rey Star Wars movies, are they are making another one despite fans complaining.
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Star Wars died when Lucas sold it
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
Sadly true
@darthvaper4776
2 ай бұрын
That was long ago in galaxy far away
@markedfodeath
2 ай бұрын
Stars Wars died when the Phantom Menace came out.
@yaaninja
2 ай бұрын
some good points like rogue one Vader Hallway scene or Baby yoda and mando, but yeah overall dying
@Always-Hustle
2 ай бұрын
Been dead since the prequel trilogies.
Apparently they spent 300 million on Acolyte and will spend another 200 million on marketing this turd. Watching Disney lose money is the only thing I care about.
@dcmastermindfirst9418
2 ай бұрын
That's crazy. 500 million for a tv show!! Disney are run by idiots
@kleinerfarmer1
2 ай бұрын
darn, they should just have sent the money to me. same 500mil down the drain but less damage to the reputation. win-win i think^^
@DarthVader1273
2 ай бұрын
A freaking AI would make a better Star Wars show. I would rather watch a mediocre show all made by AI than a garbage show made by humans
@effortless8130
2 ай бұрын
I swear they spent only 80 million for Obi-Wan to make it look so bad. They deliberately wanted to annoy the core fans by adding a no-name character and spending less money even though this should be THE show the fans wanted
@darkalligator
2 ай бұрын
No woke bull.....in Japan, they really want your money.
The trailer looks like more of the same stuff: activist misandrists using Star Wars as a skin suit.
@Disinterested1
2 ай бұрын
Amen
@tomcoop9750
2 ай бұрын
When it said “it’s about power and who can use it,” I bet they were complaining about the “patriarchy” and how supposedly only men can be Jedi 🙄
@AcidCult
2 ай бұрын
I’m glad people are calling it out for what it is. This whole victimhood narrative needs to end, modern women have unfair advantages over men in almost every aspect of life now, we have officially past equality, now they want special privileges, it’s time to say no more
@993mike
2 ай бұрын
It’s shocking when you continuously see the trailers for new content like The Acolyte and realize quickly that no, they still don’t understand the fandom and won’t change even though it’s now so unprofitable
@toadman5184
2 ай бұрын
@@993mike I think it comes down to motivation - they are not motivated by the idea of making a good film because they are not filmmakers, so appealing to the fandom is largely, irrelevant. Profit also is irrelevant, hence why they keep persisting with the same stuff. Their motivation is to display their virtue to the people that they want approval from. So, it's an ego display to a fractional and possibly non-existent audience. Star Wars is merely a vehicle.
So sick of Hollywood ignorance at all levels!
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
Crazy!
@danielporter3922
2 ай бұрын
They aren’t ignorant, they know EXACTLY what they are trying to do: traumatize and anger generations of fans in one big pay-op. Duck Fisney.
@davfree9732
2 ай бұрын
@@danielporter3922 They abandoned their customers in favor of following the advice of activist consultants who fed them the line 'Here's lots of money! If you go with DEI and ESG, you'll have cheaper debts AND the audience's money.' So industry got into bed with ESG and DEI. And when the audience left, the activist consultants said... "Pffft, guess we're all you've got now. Just like we planned. Now put a diverse female chick in it and make it gay and lame." When it comes to ESG reliant companies, if they can't back out of the situation they got themselves into then it's time to go full Wrath of Kirk - "Let them die."
@MatthewMoreau
2 ай бұрын
So sick of Disney disasters.
I hope they spend 350million making that Rey movie so I can laugh harder when it fails.
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
Ahahaha then needs 600 million to break even ajaha
@moonlambo5229
2 ай бұрын
@@thejessegrant They need a worldwide box office GROSS of 850million to break even. You have to account for marketing spend.
@Doofwarrior88
2 ай бұрын
Even good successful movies today are barely reaching 700 million. Any movie that needs to break a billion to be profitable is just a bad business model. Look at the Movie the Creator. Cost around 95 million to make. You have a chance to recoupe the money with a 300 million dollar box office.
@thegreypath1777
2 ай бұрын
Rey Palpatine doesn't need another movie. She has already had three: Episodes 7, 8, and 9.
If I was a billionaire, I'd buy Star Wars, erase Disney's cannon, go back to Legends, ser the saga centuries ahead, hire folks who truly love the series. Tell me if I'm wrong.
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
That’s the best way to continue the franchise but in my opinion it’s smarter to just start creating new work leave the great franchises alone. I think people forget Star Wars was once a new story ahaha
@markmunroe-hz8rf
2 ай бұрын
@@thejessegrant I was thinking of starting a sci-fi series set in the future, where humans, fed up with earth's decadence, took to the stars, settle on a new planet and expand, with new alien races, each, like humans, had different caste, tribes, tongues, spiritual beliefs and customs. A mix of military sci-fi, space western, science fantasy and adventure. What'd think?
@158Cypher
2 ай бұрын
Such a move would be epic, and would actually be entertaining, unlike the Rey trilogy.
@Khultan
2 ай бұрын
Return to *GEORGE LUCAS*
@rickynorwood7229
2 ай бұрын
Definitely erase all the crap from cannon, and start after return of the Jedi with Luke becoming a master even more powerful than yoda trying to rebuild the Jedi order, you only need to see the mandalorian response to Luke to know it would smash box office records I don’t know how they got it all so wrong.
At this point, I think they could put a 5 year old in charge of Disney and the movies would start getting better.
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
Bahahahaahaha
@edrosa3485
2 ай бұрын
You are not wrong. Look up Axe Cop and tell me that nearly anything Disney is better.
@cobaltfog
2 ай бұрын
They bought Disney and Marvel, two massive machines that could put out billion-dollar opening movies, then decided they didn't want to do that anymore.
@shadf7902
2 ай бұрын
An orangutan could outclass these activist parading as writers.
Its no longer Star wars, its Lesbo wars.
@UnitSe7en
2 ай бұрын
Starfish Wars
@tomtomdishman4029
2 ай бұрын
i so agree.
@thegreypath1777
2 ай бұрын
Boycott.
@kipolem53
2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure that appeals to women in general though. Pretty sure the comments I've seen freaking out that Inside OUt 2 might involve Riley discovering she's attracted to girls were mostly posted by women.
Rey Palpatine. NOT Skywalker!
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
Ahahahaha
I hope Disney will lose the Star Wars rights
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
Yeah for sure however damn that Star Wars ride was fun at Disneyland ahaha
@WhiteDireWolf_217
2 ай бұрын
They own the rights ...
@stormcutter59
2 ай бұрын
You and i can hope all we want, i dont think its gonna happen that way.
@christiansparacino8773
2 ай бұрын
Or sell it to someone who respects the source material and is a storyteller who wants to add to the lore and not a political activist.
@orthodox-mp6hv
2 ай бұрын
@@christiansparacino8773 Unlikely, they would rather destroy and bury it instead of letting someone else have it.
If all roads lead to Rey Palpatine, we won’t return to Star Wars.
Investors are only now saying something? Where the hell were they the last 10 years?
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
Ahahaha to be fair disney in my opinion we’re putting out some really good films up until 2021
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
2 ай бұрын
@@thejessegrant I’m struggling to name any mate
@CordellPotts
2 ай бұрын
The money has become more important than "The Message" now that they've lost billions of dollars.
@CordellPotts
2 ай бұрын
Like.....?
@stormcutter59
2 ай бұрын
@@thejessegrantLike what? Marvel cant be named becuase that has been a mess for a really long time. Successful doesnt equate to greatness
Hiring the best people for the role? They don’t, they sacrifices talent and quality to hire substandard people just so they can check the DEI check box.
No one not even us women asked for this. And that’s because thsi was never about Star Wars from the beginning! It was about them trying to change society thinking that if they take popular brands and remake them in their woke view that fans will diverse to their ways. It was never about the franchises themselves! Star Wars was a tool. Nothing more.
@Brianbravo2000
2 ай бұрын
Honestly I love your comment this is so true it’s even embarrassing that even women don’t want this
@watergirl929
2 ай бұрын
Yup@@Brianbravo2000
The beauty of this is that the arrogance of Disney execs will never allow them to admit wrong, so they will continue to drive Disney into the ground. They truly believe they know what the consumer wants better than the consumer themselves.
People are just tired of being lectured to all the time from every direction in life. It just becomes white noise after 10+ years of this crap.
@TheBigPresident
2 ай бұрын
seriously, as a regular person that goes about life non vitriolic and not a fanatic, i just dont care about any of this, and its getting shoved in our faces constantly.
NO, But as the JOKER SAYS: It's NOT About the Money, It's About SENDING A MESSAGE!
@flankspeed007
2 ай бұрын
"The Message!" as The Critical Drinker says
"Don't shoot! let them burn!" (Random soldier from Saving Private Ryan)
Disney definitely needs new leadership; ones who won't concentrate on check-boxing
B. Iger is the biggest activist - he can not create himself just destroy what others have created before him
@cobaltfog
2 ай бұрын
The way he's spending money to try to cling to his position, he's a better Palpatine than Rey Skywalker.
@crazyralph6386
2 ай бұрын
He screwed himself when he rejected George’s ideas for the sequels. There was coming back after that eff up
I’m out. Disney Star Wars is Legends and I’m going back to the EU as cannon. It’s just better and they’re not destroying the legacy of what I love. They built on it and expanded it but honored it t and didn’t destroy it like Disney did. They don’t like me and I don’t like them. It’s gone beyond just not liking their movies. They’ve insulted me for not liking what they did and called me all sorts of names when I just didn’t like what they’re doing. They didn’t respect the legacy characters. At all. So I’m out. MCU, SW. all of it. I need a genuine apology or a change in management. These people condescend and then wanted me to buy their stuff. Bye. The destruction of legacy media and entertainment can’t come soon enough.
@shadf7902
2 ай бұрын
A simple change in management wont be enough, Disney is riddled with cancer from top to bottom at every level. The only hope for star wars or marvel is if disney collapses and sells off its IPs.
Star Wars and Star Trek has fell into this same pandering.
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
So sad to see
@magical_pixie_horse7346
2 ай бұрын
I heard that Picard season 3 was good, but that you have to get through the sludge that is the first 2 seasons to understand the story.
@docbrown6550
2 ай бұрын
@@magical_pixie_horse7346 I watched the series, Picard was belittled the entire series, it was like they wanted him degraded.
@magical_pixie_horse7346
2 ай бұрын
@@docbrown6550 so I heard wrong about season 3? That was from the critical drinker.
@docbrown6550
2 ай бұрын
@@magical_pixie_horse7346 The Star Trek franchise is doing the same as Disney, they are trying to get rid of the strong m--a---l---eee charactors and in Picard is is to the extreme making Picard an irrelevant character along with belittling him.
The main problem with diversity is that it isn't about equality, it's about promoting minority interest group and pandering to activists who don't buy the product. You can have diversity or social cohesion, they are mutually exclusive. What is so sad is that these grifters don't see how racist, sexist, and divisive they really are. I've about given up on most new films and tv shows and gone back to reading old books.
@Mahhhdeee
2 ай бұрын
I feel this, however there are gems theatre still coming out; Oppenheimer, the Batman, dune part 1 & 2, hereditary, parasyte, Godzilla minus one, poor things, and others. They’re all worth the time to watch and show love and care to the craft, not “the message”
@stormcutter59
2 ай бұрын
Even more than that its about "power" as is outlined from this trailer. They want to raise up the minority over the "majority" so to speak. They dont even believe in this trash either, its just to get what they want out of it. I totally agree with you
We been telling them but they didn't want to hear now its time they feel..feel it in their pockets.
Nice to hear the investors finally speaking up. Disney would rather hire shills than writers. I hope Iger, Kennedy, Filoni, and Feige are all ousted. Then fire all the DEI pushers. Nothing will change until that happens. Disney didn't even try and all their hires were only about messaging rather than creating entertainment. Decades from now this will be the most embarrassing collection of failure movies in Disney's history.
So it comes down to basic Supply & Demand? Shares in $DIS have been selling faster than their cinema tickets.
To me, this is what happens when you let a girl in an "Treehouse All-Boys Club". For me, boys like man stuff and in their treehouse, they have comic books, action movies, spaceships, manly heroes with action figures, etc in it. And then one day, you invite a girl in. At first, she's kind of cool, she likes the same thing as the boys do. It's fine at first. And then, she invites another girl friend and more. But you later notice how they are slowly putting in things in their treehouse, like curtains, a tea set, dolls, pink stuff etc, and the next thing you know, the girls are playing tea party with the boys manly action figures. And that's when the boys walk out. They took their favorite boy treehouse and turn it into a girl treehouse with all their stuff in it and they can;t take it out. Sometimes, they come back to see when the girls gave up and go away, but sometimes, they never do. The girls mock the boys by playing their manly action figures and are like "These are girls toys now". That's how I see Star Wars and Marvel now.
@svetlanaandrasova6086
2 ай бұрын
True. And then these girls accuse those boys of hating action figures.
I'd say they're pandering/manufacturing girl boss lesbians. The problem is that 0.00001% of the population isn't enough to uphold a franchise.
If you are asked "are you in the business of politics or entertainment" and your answer is anything other than Entertainment, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. DISNEY.
If Rey died, Ben Solo would've become the next Jedi master.... Would've been a better movie... That would not have fit the political narrative.....
Everything after 'Return of the Jedi' is utter garbage. But 'The Acolyte' is a unique kind of cinematic crap ! 🤦🏽🤢🤮
@sarkastodon30
2 ай бұрын
Exactly. I like most of Rogue One, parts of Solo, parts of Mandalorian and parts of Andor. But I'd trade it all if Disney sold Lucasfilm and the new company decanonized all Disney SW. Let's call it square on the prequels and keep them in 😅 but I see your point.
@thegreypath1777
2 ай бұрын
Rogue One was good.
The Force Awakens $2 billion, Last Jedi $1.3 billiom, Rise of Skywalker $1 billion. All garbage, but people still went to them (with diminishing returns). More then likely they will pull close to a billion out of this movie if it gets a wide release.
It is absolutely all about DEI. Everything and everyone running Disney has to check boxes on their DEI checklist. And ALL these DEI hires are turning out crap!!
@crazyralph6386
2 ай бұрын
Exactly. They’re simply untalented hacktivists, with massive chips on their shoulders, and they project that onto the screen.
I was interested in acolyte but then I heard about it being a gay story and I just lost interest for it
@vertigo2894
2 ай бұрын
So the characters being gay is a problem for you?
@bliglum
2 ай бұрын
@@vertigo2894 It's all about "representation" right? A gay leading character is not very representative of most people... But, for the handful of die-hard Star Wars fans, who are also gay, it's going to be marvelous, I'm sure.
@sambeckett2428
2 ай бұрын
@@vertigo2894 that's going to be the entire 'story', though, isn't? Woo, great, gay people. It's 2024. Nobody fucking cares. Homosexuality is not an entire character in its own right.
@BlueSoulGamer
2 ай бұрын
@@vertigo2894 no. It’s not the issue itself, it’s the red flag for the issue. The issue is that Disney will focus on real world social politics over good writing or characters, so whenever they lead with something like “strong female lead” or “gay storyline” it’s basically them declaring the story is guaranteed to be a disaster.
@vertigo2894
2 ай бұрын
@@bliglum So you think characters are about rcl, and sxl represenation? Then you are the same as the "woke:.
All we're left with now is Andor...and I've a feeling they're currently busy ruining that as I type this. It seems to be intentional, as if they know they are destroying this brand and franchise forever - with glee. Their misandry knows no bounds.
I wonder if the casting couch at Disney is draped with a rainbow flag.
A Star Wars trailer with no fighting scenes at all, can't be called a Star Wars trailer. Disney final nail on SW coffin.
@Geeklectica
2 ай бұрын
well there's kung fu :) (but yeah there's a reason it's called Knights of the Old Republic, not Ninjas...)
You have a moral obligation to gatekeep your hobbies
DEI - Drivel, Excruciating and Incompetent
I was out after The Last Jedi. After that, I did watch 2 seasons of the Mandalorian (mainly because I love Battlestar Galactica's Katee Sackhoff and Gina Carano as well). The end scene with Luke gave me hope for good Star Wars again. Then they fired Gina Carano and I realized that a broken clock is right twice a day. I have no interest in Star Wars anymore, other than to laugh at it. Disney is a company I can't stand and will never give money to again. THEY are the evil empire.
I would be very wary of investing in Disney, Iger directly lied in his briefing with the push for the Acolyte
episode 10 should go pure nostalgia. Introduce a film version of the World between Worlds. Have Ray actually see Luke's best moments including from the books. See him using force lightning, see Starkiller pull down a Super Star Destroyed with his bare hands (and yes, get Sam to cameo in the role) use the WbW as a way to retcon 7 - 9 or hell, use it to save Luke from dying. Bring back Grand Master Luke Skywalker as an OP force user to do proper training with Finn.
My first Disney Land experience was in Tokyo just a month ago with my gf. I wasn't expecting much tbh, but man, it was worth it. I truly enjoyed myself and was having a great time.
I say "just let them have their Star Wars chick flick". If it sucks (which is likely), no one will watch it and they will be digging their own grave.Then things will have to change, and they will eventually hire the right people. (It's unlikely but possible)
Reminds me of the killing line in Tomorrow Never Dies “You forgot the first rule of mass media Eliot! GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!”
Disney fortunately doesn’t have the rights to Spider-Man, Sony does.
I’m all for Carrie Ann Moss being in a proper Star Wars movie, but Disney doesn’t make proper Star Wars movies.
If they had a diverse cast in good stories that are well-written and respected the source material, nobody would mind in the slightest bit and they’d be accepted as they are. The problem is they only wanna tick boxes and have no interest in putting in any effort after that.
@christianmock7068
2 ай бұрын
Hell, even THE MESSAGE wouldn’t be a problem if it was conveyed, again, with a well-written story that conveys the ideas through good writing instead of self-righteous preaching and treating huge segments of the population with disrespect.
Disney needs to make numerous subsidiary companies to hide their future low-budget movies the way they did with Touchstone films.
Bob Iger believe he is still living in the age of the Women's movement of the 70'es, blissfully unaware of what they turned into in the meantime, even though he is working right next to the radicals on a daily basis. Some men just can't get past the chivalrous stage in life, even though the women that once deserved that treatment are exceedingly rare, if not all gone by now.
Instead of actually making something good that people want to see. The media and Hollywood would rather blame and bash men. When men still make up the majority of who is seeing the films.
The main reason Disney Tokyo is the best is because it’s not managed by Disney, but rather Oriental Land Group.
Disney MUST stop making movie with committees.
Bob Iger and those of the same cloth are the architects of the death of my childhood. Witnessing his failure brings me joy.
Firefly was an excellent TV show. It told good stories, with good scripts, and good acting. It had a diverse cast... no one ever mentioned this, because it didn't matter.
They resurrect the Star Wars Corpse and make a movie or a TV show then they have to bury the corpse again because something that is dead will never live again.
Still want to know what happened to Jar Jar .. did they just forget about him?
'Anyone in their right mind' there's your answer right there, my dear.
Key to understanding them is "in their right mind" they are not making it for people in their right minds pure and simple
The rot keeps getting deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper
So South Park knew about this before investors did? Then they deserve to lose money.
I heard they broke Bob's eye socket and knocked out a bunch of his teeth...
We've heard it from them, it's about ACTIVISM!
Elon Musk should buy Lucasfilm. Then, dump all Disney’s trash.
“Put a fork in it it’s done.”
What would Walt say if he were alive?
Not sure how anyone could look at original/prequel Star Wars and say it was sexist…. Just ridiculous with so many incredibly prominent and popular female characters.
That's the whole problem. You want to SEE. They want to MAKE. That's why they will always prevail.
I always say that when Disney gives up Star Wars, it could have a chance to redeem itself but it may end WITH Disney, Marvel and Star Wars falling to rubble.
I’m completely done with Disney, im not the kind of person they want to watch it apparently
They finally hit their limit?
I think it should be "Star Wars, the Fans and the Furious".
Good to here!
Really good. Than you.
Use AI, Deep Fake, and body doubles to remake Episodes 7-9 with Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford in scenes together, all 3 of them interacting in the same plot at the same time. Delete the current movies completely and no “Rey Skywalker-Palpatine”.
Walt would have kicked the current crop of Disney Executives in their horse's patootie.
When you get 8 million views and less than 1 million "engagement" votes, something doesn't add up.
The only thing that makes me smile is the thought that they are gonna lose money😂😊
Jesse, you say that Disneyland Japan doesn't push the message. Try going to Disneyland California where they have men with beards dressed as princesses
The fact you flew to Disney land Tokyo. Damn! That is dedication, I mean 僕もまた日本に行きたいですがディズニーランド行きたくないと思います。(translation, I also want to go to Japan againt but I don't think I want to go to disney land). Regardless, if you enjoyed your time then at least you were able to show to anyone working at Disney that you are coming from a good place. Keep it up, change will happen so long as we keep telling them that they need to make entertaining and timeless movies like they used to.
Please disney go back to old disney 😢
I don’t really care anymore if they’re going to stop sending the messages and start to make good movies. Other people will make it eventually, and my money will go there instead.
Disney plus .................. lol what a fuc...........ing Joke they are !
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
Abahaha
Did you notice they put musical sequence with dancing and singing into The Marvels,a movie for women which features women,and not into Dr strange or Antman? As if they are deep down thinking this is only for girls,aka;sexist point of view?
This is literally the first time I have heard of "The Acolyte"
@thejessegrant
2 ай бұрын
😂😂
Just got full ham...make an all gay cast for every movie and finish off the company once and for all.
I'm really afraid for TRON 3. It's the last IP they haven't destroyed, and it's in production with a last minute rewrite. Not a good sign.
Star Wars died in 1978 with the holiday special.
Didn't Disney not learn their lesson after bashing the Snow White source material as sexist and outdated? As objectively false as the claim is, all this will do will turn more people against Star Wars, even if they were still on the fence
I'd rather have a brain tumour than watch anything made by Disney at this point.
Disney investors attack Bob Iger, blah, blah, blah. If the investors were really that pissed off about the state of Disney, they wouldn't keep giving them money.
The bean counters will win
the fall of disney will be studied in media studies A level in some years to come i can guaruaantee
D E I wars: Episode 69 electric clusterfuck
No I would argue that diversity is the problem because it's what matters more nowadays rather than the story and as long as dei and black rock are still around and pushing this crap we will still get this crap in our movies and it won't stop till dei is stopped so yes dei is the problem because it wasn't a problem several years ago
I wish they would go back to entertaining instead of reassuring audiences that they were no longer sexist or racist.
The South Park panderverse was 🤣
The great thing is that the original movies exist and are awsome...it's easy just to ignore all this "new" crap and still enjoy the real one's.
It's not just Disney now. Netflix and HBO shows are trending towards female pandering. It's not universal, but it's definitely an industry trend.
I agree with you on everything you said on the video except that Black Panther was a great movie: I found it extremely boring (and I love the character in the classic comics), so boring that it is one of the few pre-Endgame MCU movies I do not own a physical copy of (the other ones being Thor Ragnarok and Captain Marvel).