Disney Debate Critical Drinker On Piers Morgan & Get Nuked
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In a shocking turn of events The Critical Drinker joined a news panel debate on Piers Morgan's show where he along with Nerdrotic debated a Disney representative on why Disney is failing as a company and the Critical Drinker made so many bulletproof arguments against the recent Disney movies that it is only right I react to this video as it really sums up every way Disney has failed as a studio, a business and as filmmakers, from the MCU to Star Wars, all of their franchises have been absolutely nuked.
**Disclaimer I wasn't sure if the man they debated works for Disney or just supports Disney, due to the title of the video I react to it seemed like he worked for Disney however I am not sure personally.
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Disney used to touch our hearts, now they touch us inappropriately.
@DemBigOlEyes
Ай бұрын
True. My wallet and I feel molested everytime a new Disney movie comes out.
@davfree9732
Ай бұрын
This comment is viral... And that's telling how much Disney has ticked off the audience.
@user-vd5uq4uc9b
Ай бұрын
Lol! Touchin my last nerv, too!
@watergirl929
Ай бұрын
I’m seeing this comment in every video I watch
@RandomWandrer
Ай бұрын
I wouldn't go that far. But I do have to pre watch Disney films before showing them to my kids. It's not just "woke" or whatever. They also encourage awful mindsets. There's believing in yourself (generally good) and then there's being born perfect and smart and strong, with no effort or failing or mistakes, and having to force the world to acknowledge that you're already totally developed and don't need no man/parents/teachers/other perspectives. I dont like this messaging. I dont like Disney telling my daughter that she doesn't need to work on herself, and I dont like Disney telling my son that he's a clown, and he may not tell girls when they are wrong because = mansplaining = bad.
The fact that The Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic were able to debate about why disney has been failing on Piers Morgan's show. Really goes to show how much of a legend those two are! 😃
@thejessegrant
Ай бұрын
The Drinker really is doing big things
@StandardName562
Ай бұрын
@@thejessegrant Absolutely, I agree. He is really making a difference I believe.
@davfree9732
Ай бұрын
Time and holding the line against cancel culture has allowed these two, to bring the consumer perspective to the mainstream. Activists have been working to sever the connection between industry and consumer. This is a welcome first step, but it needs to be maintained and grown so that reason and logic... Not to mention honest opinions of consumers rule what drives industry again.
@andreeacrisan8233
Ай бұрын
Legends… yeah 👍 don’t get me wrong, they are absolutely right in their statements, but ever asked yourself why they get that much attention, viewers and fame? Because “hate pays more than love”… Jessie here on the other hand was nothing but constructive critical of both form and substance, of art, cinematography, storytelling etc…. 😢 Yet the legend is Drinker because he enrages the “modern audiences”
@temperedglass1130
Ай бұрын
Or becoming mainstream useful puppets
To be fair, Disney seems familiar with these critics. They probably only wanted to get one Disney representative embarrassed rather than multiple.
@thejessegrant
Ай бұрын
Ahahaha
Diversity is not the problem in a movie. Diversity AS THE STORY is the problem with “diverse” movies.
@Flugs0
Ай бұрын
Yes, it's not the fact that movies include diversity and inclusion that's the issue, it's the fact that the writers don't focus on anything else but that.
@OtterloopB
Ай бұрын
Diversity can be a problem when you go too far with it. Perversion and depravity don't need representation.
@ShaneDouglas713
Ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@Ambusher1st
Ай бұрын
Well, the same people pushing for "diversity" are the same people that harp on about "racism," constantly. They say it's bad to treat someone a specific way or give them certain things because of their race, except whites of course, but will push for people of specific skin colors to be in certain things and be given certain things simply because of that skin color. Once you realize that these people's ideology is nothing more than a hilarious set of contradictions, then it makes it much easier to deal with them. They are not good people, 9 times out of ten.
@nyelevett1697
Ай бұрын
Very well summarised 👏🏻
Ernest is a perfect "spokesperson" for Disney...Gay, untalented and defensive. He's a microcosm of Disney.
@CollaredConsulting
Ай бұрын
Buying a ticket to any Disney put money in that idiots pocket. How can any normal person do that?
@TWDub
Ай бұрын
You destroyed your own point by putting "gay" in there. There's nothing wrong with being gay or any other member of the LGBTQ+ community. Sir Ian McKellan who plays Gandalf in LOTR and the Hobbit Trilogy is one of the most beloved actors in Hollywood, and he's gay. Is he untalented and defensive? If you've seen him talk about his homosexuality you'll know the answer is "no." Stay in your lane about the LGBTQ+ community, Vagolfer.
@shevankaseneviratne1724
Ай бұрын
@@TWDub Based. I agree with critical drinker on everything abt forced diversity espescially in folklore and historical films but theres alot of right wing bigots in the same room as CD.
@porakiyadraekojin3390
Ай бұрын
@@TWDubto counter your argument, Ian wasn't hired because he was gay, while Ernest most likely was hired because he was gay
@GuyWithZen459
Ай бұрын
Is Being Gay supposed to be a bad thing now?? Your point is already moot
So, during this debate, the first strategy of the Disney spokesperson is to throw-down the Race Card? Brilliant.
@stormcutter59
Ай бұрын
Were you expecting any other way?
@aitoluxd
Ай бұрын
@@stormcutter59 damn 😂
@landenroberts6710
Ай бұрын
@@stormcutter59true 😅 it’s like their whole marketing strategy
@Drak976
Ай бұрын
Of course. At this point if they send out a diverse person I assume they're like the sacrificial lamb bringing bad news and then if you don't like the news yes you must not like that person because reasons. It's very transparent.
@Shin_FTW
5 күн бұрын
Good to show which side they lean. "To the left to the left"
It's not about being racist It's about good storytelling and passion.
@BarefootPeasant
Ай бұрын
Funny how they nitpick the little surface details, but completely miss the heart of it.
@stormcutter59
Ай бұрын
They named the rigged rules of what is racist to begin with. Its called setting up someone to fail and so it was never been about the thing they claim it to be, its about beating you with guilt and gaslighting you. Its another way to bully someone. It only works if you consider it legit and take it seriously
@Radbiker33357
Ай бұрын
Literally. Thor 1 did alright in the box office but I thought 3 did far better than both 1 and 2. Until 4. Then there’s dune 2. Blew the pants off the first one by a long shot, both in story and box office, and it shows. The difference between these is good, engaging story telling, rather than bs politics.
How ironic that he has a book titled "The case for cancel culture" behind him because I personally have canceled Disney!
@thejessegrant
Ай бұрын
Ahahahahaha
@BarefootPeasant
Ай бұрын
@timdavis6913 Even more that he wrote the book himself, and has it there to promote it. Hey Karma, if you're out there...
@1stAmendmentorDie1776
Ай бұрын
He is also clearly gay.
This Ernest guy is way out of his depth. He's saying the same mainstream talking points that have been getting shot down for years.
@BarefootPeasant
Ай бұрын
Probably no coincidence that his posture and mannerisms remind me of a ventriloquist's dummy.
@archabe
Ай бұрын
@@BarefootPeasant So he has a parrot up his ass.
@huricanethreeonesix
Ай бұрын
Nothing earnest about his arguments! Budum tss...
@Albtraumgirl
Ай бұрын
And his expressions were so rude 😅 always rolling his eyes 🙊
@gathasofpersia6432
Ай бұрын
He is black. He is entitled. He is paid to be a black racist and a groomer.
Disney is trying to sell New Coke and is unwilling to go back to the original recipe. Imagine the Coca-Cola company in the 80's trying to shame their customers into buying a product they don't like instead of going back to what was popular? That would have been a disaster, but that does seem to be Disney's business strategy.
@nasherowdey2618
Ай бұрын
Cause it's not about entertainment. It is the deliberate and controlled demolition of our collective escapism.
@CorruptDemocratsJ6
Ай бұрын
coke has always been trash anyway. stop drinking high fructose corn syrup poison and ultra processed garbage. eat healthy, work out, fight leftoids, activists and corpos
@rickbase833
Ай бұрын
So much this. Back then, companies handled a failure such as new Coca-Cola by addressing the issue quickly and decisively. I was once a salesman at a department store and the company promoted this thing above all else......Customer Service......even to the point that the store would take back merch that had been used thoroughly for years....and refund the money. It wasn't something that happened often, but it created a fiercely loyal base of shoppers and great word of mouth.
This Disney representative really had a condescending attitude. His scoffing reactions are a thorn in my sight.
@Blak_Gurl_Magik
Ай бұрын
"side"
@higado2
Ай бұрын
And of course, he is likely geh too, judging by his voice!
@user-kz5gw7xe4o
Ай бұрын
Back in the 80's, Coca-Cola made New Coke, and it was a failure, so the company admitted its mistake and went back to the old recipe. Disney isn't willing to admit they've gone astray. They think they can shame people into buying their New Coke even though people don't like it. Won't work.
@ShaneDouglas713
Ай бұрын
He's a Bob Iger Yes Man
@hansmemling2311
Ай бұрын
@@Blak_Gurl_Magikthanks, english isn't my first language. I had no idea it was side.
This is huge, the fact that even Morgan identifies that Disney is dog ass on a LIVE WIDELY-VIEWED piece of media. We went from youtubers broadcasting to a youtube audience to a WORLD WIDE audience. But will this open Disney's eyes?? I'll bet both my nuts that no, it wont.
@DemBigOlEyes
Ай бұрын
I would bet your nuts on it too.
@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese
Ай бұрын
NAHHHHH
@silverfoalan9045
Ай бұрын
If they do end up opening their eyes, (Which I doubt) I'm taking both those nuts
@kokuutou92
Ай бұрын
Yeah I think you get to keep your nuts too
@mikeguilmette776
Ай бұрын
The stockholders - who are sick of losing money - will force Disney's eyes open.
It is funny because right after this happens Disney announces a female led Silver Surfer Fantastic Four movie. Another massive flop.
@Mainframev76
Ай бұрын
Put a female in the lead & make her gay!!!
@gaetanhillion8342
Ай бұрын
At least it's not a bait and switch this time ^^.
@KKarama1
Ай бұрын
i mean female in silver spandex... im not complaining
@Drak976
Ай бұрын
@@KKarama1 The last silver surfer movie was so boring and it even had Jessica Alba and she couldn't save it. Fantastic Bore more like see what I did there.
@wrongtime9097
3 күн бұрын
This genuinely makes no sense. The Fantastic Four movies fucking SUCK. Why, after revisiting the franchise, would they make such a needless & controversial change?
As always, its the story. The orginal Star Trek used spray painted coffie cup lids as part of their set dressing. But its the stories that keep people watching after 50 years.
@insertnamehere5809
Ай бұрын
You only have to look at some of the fight choreography in the original STAR TREK (especially the one where Kirk fought a monster in the desert 😅).
@quantumvideoscz2052
Ай бұрын
@@insertnamehere5809 Yeah, the legendary Gorn fight. It looks like absolute garbage today, but the story itself holds up better than anything in the She-Hulk show.
@Drak976
Ай бұрын
@@insertnamehere5809 I love that scene. It's a famous park in Cally Wally now you can pay the man in the lizard costume for what they call a "Hot Carl" and it's only $5.
She Hulk had flaws in the comics, luckily a superhero and lawyer, but unlucky in love. At one time, she was an alcoholic. That said, Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic are the new Siskel and Ebert. Thanks guys. We need you, and you Jesse Grant.
@DarthP1kachu
Ай бұрын
she also had a reputation for being a bit of a sl*t (sk*nk, easy or whatever you wanna call it).
When you are sycophantic towards 10% of the population, how do you expect your "message" to be universally identifiable? When a film has so little you can relate to, the perpetual proselytizing turns it into two hours of Charlie Brown's parents talking to you - "Wa wa...,wa wa wa."
@ShaneDouglas713
Ай бұрын
EXACTLY
I think that their “Disney Representative” has been seen when he “debated” on the Netflix “Cleopatra documentary” against an Egyptian/expert in archeology for his own culture. He wrote the book behind him (not advertising, I’m sure..🙄) He’s the weakest person to make an argument about anything. But he’s a real representation of Disney’s state of mind XD
WE ARE NOT HERE BECAUSE OF SHE-HULK! She is simply the face of your failure, Disney. *John Wick: Chapter 4 reference*
@alexman378
Ай бұрын
“The declining box office, is merely an echo of our remaining patience”
@ShaneDouglas713
Ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
A well known British Director once confided in me that when he went looking for financial backing, he crunched the numbers and asked for a reasonable sum of money from backers. The backers wouldn't give him the time of day. When he inflated it 10x times, only then they would talk to him. Madness. And this is reason why you don't get 10x $10M films, but instead 1x $100M film.
@meeko1026
Ай бұрын
Christopher Nolan?
@____uncompetative
4 күн бұрын
Gareth Edwards, who went to my Art College.
The studios have to have budgets that high because there is no other way they can cover up their money laundering schemes without it.
This "Disney" rep literally is advertising a book titled "The Case For Cancel Culture" 🤦🏻♂️ Hard to take anything he has to say as genuine and insightful.
I do have to pre watch Disney films before showing them to my kids. It's not just "woke" or whatever. They also encourage awful mindsets. There's believing in yourself (generally good) and then there's being born perfect and smart and strong, with no effort or failing or mistakes, and having to force the world to acknowledge that you're already totally developed and don't need no man/parents/teachers/other perspectives. I dont like this messaging. I dont like Disney telling my daughter that she doesn't need to work on herself, and I dont like Disney telling my son that he's a clown, and he may not tell girls when they are wrong because = mansplaining = bad.
I watched The Critical Drinker talking to Piers Morgan.
@thejworks07
Ай бұрын
He was the most respectful of the bunch
So Disney put forward a clearly gay individual, who rolls his f eyes when others talk? And I'm 3 mins in ...
@BigChungus-gz9vw
Ай бұрын
Fr that dude was a joke
@TheRenofox
Ай бұрын
They must have thought him being black and gay would nullify all criticism outside Disney like it does inside.
@epgamer1145
Күн бұрын
He even looks gay. It’s just so odd that that you can just tell before he speaks.
Critical Drinker is a genuinely smart man that can make these points without resorting to catch phrases. It should have been 3 Disney reps against him.
Of course Disney picks a representative the checks all their boxes a gay black man seriously
@soulreaper1977
Ай бұрын
Well he needed to have no legs and that would check all those "boxes"
@myterryflap8126
Ай бұрын
@@soulreaper1977 you lost me 🤷
@soulreaper1977
Ай бұрын
@@myterryflap8126 let's take for exemple Echo, she wasn't black or gay, was handicapped and deaf so those checked. What I meant is that the grocery list of them is much more filled than black or gay, much much more shit there 😂
@soulreaper1977
Ай бұрын
@@myterryflap8126 hope that helps you understand whet i was going for sorry 😅
They sent in a catty gay black man? So disney
For me, this represents a huge shift in media, top to bottom communication being replaced by peer2peer communication. Out with the mainstream, in with the indie. Proud of these guys for sticking to their guns even if I don't agree with everything they say.
If they were good stories there wouldn’t be fatigue. No one has ever stated “ There too many great stories”
@Drak976
Ай бұрын
I did in the 1990s. I wanted to see every good movie but it was literally impossible because so many good movies came out so fast.
Jesse Grant often simplifies the issues. He says: "Diversity doesn´t make a film bad or good it´s the quality of the story that matters." Yes but if an actor is chosen merely because she is a woman or black then the quality of the acting probably isn´t as good as it could have been. And it´s the same for the writers, the directors, and so on. So when diversity is your main goal and you have a good story the result is probably shitty.
Plot twist: That guy never worked for Disney. He was just some random dude they got off the street.
Mad props for CRIT DRINKER and NERDDROTIC!! It really shows how far they’ve gone by being in Piers Morgan’s show!! And yeah, THERE 100% RIGHT!! Disney has become a woke puppet that’s destroying themselves in their madness!
@BAM5636
Ай бұрын
It's "their" not "there" lol. Also, no one who matters actually cares about YT rage click videos like these two clowns. Hence why they appear with the likes of Morgan.
They very likely know that their views and approach simply don't hold up to scrutiny
Disney has no comeback as profits, subs and audiences all show the facts. Mr Disney Diversity sits there rolling his eyes and grimacing at every point. He is a Disney idealogue typical of the Disney corp.
That Ernest is way out of it. Its clear hes so deluded in his woke mind.
@BarefootPeasant
Ай бұрын
By the looks of things, the possibility of being a "useful idiot" has clearly never occurred to him.
Seeing CDs eyes after years of sunglasses is…unsettling
This analysis is inadvertently touching on Critical Drinker's biggest problem: he refuses to attribute the failure of modern media directly to leftism. His implication is always that there's a correct way to propagandize the audience; if leftist activists were only more clever, more subtle, and more capable, then he would take no issue with their messaging. In reality, it is the leftist worldview itself that is directly at odds with quality storytelling. Feminism has given us the girl boss characters who shatter our suspension of disbelief and flatten our character arcs. Critical Theory brought us the anti-Western values of moral relativism, which has manifested as widespread subversion in media. Racial identity politics have injected tokenism and strife everywhere you look. These KZread critics continue to characterize the decline of entertainment media as predictable product of incompetence, but that's simply not the case. Leftist ideology is fundamentally incompatible with quality narrative design. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can go about fixing it.
@SlushyGem
Ай бұрын
While I agree, they probably couldn't say "Leftist Ideology." In a video without getting canceled by Twitter
Lol - dudes hand the disney guy the bullet point list of things to fix to get their content watchable again and he just sits there rolling his eyes like a defiant child.
Idk understand what there is to even debate about. Whats upsetting is seeing disney trying to deflect instead of taking accountability for bad storytelling but of course disney wont
I remember being exited for she hulk show, liked her in comics and animated shows Hulk, Avengers even spiderman then they make woke trash far from the literal strong female character she once was
they are trying to thread the moving target needle of DEI algorithms and it's ends up like the diversity video at work
Love that these guys get to reach out to the rest of the world, beyond YT that is.
@thejessegrant
Ай бұрын
100%
Into the spider verse is, theoretically, the most diverse marvel product to ever come out bcs theres not only multiple spidermen, but they all also could bebdifferent skin colors, different races, and different religions. But again, the story was the main point of it, which made it successful So it's so weird how they keep failing when there's multiple bases for them to go off from
Walt disney will be turning in his grave, cuz of wat those fools have done to his company. Its shamefull. We all loved disney stuff as kids. But it got to corporate and too political for its own good. Shouda stayed in its lane!!
But, but, Black Panther! Same old shyt.
they handled themselves very well. They are the new the leaders of new media on youtube right now.
Disney execs basically sent a human sacrifice out there so they could shrug off it off, say it's not an inportant interview, and not have anyone with a recognizable name get owned in a way people will make a bigger deal about it.
I enjoy the Critical Drinker and I used to enjoy Nerdrotic. Most importantly I really enjoy your insight. Good job pointing out their good points as well as your own.
@thejessegrant
Ай бұрын
Thank you! I try to be as fair and honest as possible! No political side just on the side of good movies
@Duendito
Ай бұрын
@@thejessegrant yes, and that’s how it should be. Keep it up.
It's nice (to me) to see one of the faces of evil....one of the demons that work behind the scenes at Disney.
Anybody noticed the book in the background "The Case for Cancel Culture"?...😀
Why do the movies have to be so frigging long? There are so many movies that you spend more time looking at your watch than the screen.
The Disney simp has the book "The Case for Cancel Culture" on full display. Opinion discarded.
The Disney rep reminds me of a black Otho(Beetlejuice)
Its been clear for a long time that these (stories) never been about the charachter at all. Its all about the revenge on popular franchises dissguised as equaliy presented as beloved fandom.
Look at the 'Disney Rep's book case- a book called "the Case For Cancel Culture' deliberately displayed very prominently
Identity Criteria vs Competency Criteria is something I have been considering. If the movie business is focused in Identity Criteria then they cannot focus on Competency Criteria. Two completely separate tracks of focus. Cannot serve two masters and all that kind of stuff.
Guys, this Disney representative has a book PROMINENTLY displayed behind him that says "The Case for Cancel Culture." That is all you need to know about that guy, and Disney.
Imagine hiring someone with “The Case for Cancel Culture” prominently displayed in their office to represent you in the press.
Awesome some actual reasonable voices given a megaphone
They just need to get the gay shit and over Powered girls out the movies, stay as true as possible to the comics.
@wrongtime9097
3 күн бұрын
They'll never do that. How else would they get the funding from BlackRock to keep up with their $30 bajillion budgets?
The guy from Disney gave just the kind of brain-dead excuse that we could expect 🙄
Here is the flaw with a lot of this thinking... No, ideology is not the ONLY aspect involved in story-telling, but it is a very important one. It would not matter from an audience's POV if the ideology were horrendously offensive and unacceptable if the story were "otherwise" well crafted: no one who objects to the ideology would watch it to be entertained. It's like saying, "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?" Ideology matters. You can't stick lipstick on a pig and fool the audience into believing that the pig is a super-model. The problem with modern storytelling since, say, 2019-ish is, yes, the fact that the stories themselves aren't engaging. The characters are poorly crafted, their actions and consequences don't always seem to harmonize, the dialogue tends to be unengaging, and so on. But even if they were Shakespearean-level quality, if wouldn't overshadow the clear "woke" ideology that modern movie-makers are still trying to foist on the audience.
Id like to see the original debate. Jesse can you post the link?
@phoenix211245
Ай бұрын
Its on the piers morgan's channel, quite recent so should be at the top
they sent the black gay man and prob the only one they had that could put two sensible words together...
lol the guy with the cancel culture book highlighted on his shelf. lmao
@alexman378
Ай бұрын
He looks and sounds exactly like someone who would be eating the hell out of that book
These 2 are the real heroes...
At this point I AM judging a movie when the trailers, interviews and reveals focus on diversity and inclusion. I didn't for the first twenty odd stinkers, but even an old dog can learn a few new tricks if he's been led by the nose long enough. Pointing out that diverse movies were box office successes says nothing because they weren't necessarily successful BECAUSE of diversity (nor despite of it, in all fairness). As in all products, its a mix of features that make a great movie and for too long Hollywood thought they could get away with substituting almost all of the award winning ingredients with more diversity and coast on by. I'm sick and tired of it so if a movie is advertising in this way I'm no longer willing to fork over money for a movie ticket in the vain hope that this time will be different. I'll wait for news that they mended their ways. Maybe then I can go to the cinema again and be confident I won't feel disappointed in myself for supporting the business.
Clearly that Disney guy is clueless about what's going on. No surprise, competent staff all left Disney.
When I watched the cast, I was choked with laughter! Why, you say? The Disney person, every time any of the other 3, said anything, he would roll his eyes, like some 12 year old child tired of hearing Mom say to eat your vegetables! AND as a bonus, at the end of the cast, 3 of 4 say 'goodbye's' and 'thank you's' ... the Disney guy shoves his book into the camera! That says it all ....
I can't see how the "Representative from Disney" can defend the indefensible? Disney is continuing to bleed money on worthless projects, yet still blames the Critics and the Movie-Going Public for the crap (putting it very politely) that they're pumping out. Right now, I'm willing to bet that Walt Disney is spinning in his grave.
Lol Black panther took a dump on itself at the end 😂
Did you know that most of the chi artist that make most of the movies are severely underpaid?
@thejessegrant
Ай бұрын
I’m aware and that’s Disneys problem and that for sure results in the CGI sucking because they overwork and underpay their effects staff it’s terrible
The Disney apologist having a book deliberately turned-out cover first on their bookshelf called "The Case for Cancel Culture" tells you everything about them.
If the people at Disney are so righteous, why did they lock away Song of the South? Its black folklore and Walt made that movie specifically for that black actor who played Uncle Remus, James Franklin Baskett, which made him the first black actor in a leading role. The fact that they act like its racist shows how bigoted they actually are, and are completely un-self-aware.
That guy defending Disney, isn't that the same guy defending the Cleopatra doucumentary a few months ago?
Maybe if they stopped making vehicles for politics & telling everyone who doesn't like it to pound sand, maybe Disney would finally make a profit
Stronger together 😊
Disney knows full well what they're doing and they prove it almost on a daily base at this point.
I remember Dr Strange and everything everywhere all at once came out around the same time. The movie with the dramatically lower budget knew what it was doing
I saw A New Hope at the Drive in when I was six. Oh what a great time. Now Disney has found a way to ruin my childhood after I've grown up.
Disney will change nothing. They've already hired an actress to play Silver Surfer. A female Silver Surfer exists, but that's not the issue. Because of how female characters are presented in the MCU recently, you just know this will be woke, preachy, and unwatachable.
He says the movies aren't doing well because they are sequels. He must forget that endgame was originally called infinity war pt 2. Also, most sequels in the mcu did better than their precadesor pre endgame.
The way the Disney representative just shakes his head and smirks the whole time the others are talking points out what the real problem is. The people inside the bubble don't want to debate. They think they're better than everyone else and can just deflect any criticisms. That works on MSNBC when your audience is also in the echo chamber and don't want to hear contradictory opinions. But it just comes off as condescending and elitist everywhere else. And these people are running Disney. So even if some people in Disney like say the CEO or some shareholders are willing to concede that things are going in the wrong direction, these people swoop in and try to get them cancelled. I mean, the guy literally has a book behind him praising cancel culture. And you know he has it there so that the Disney producers and executives he's on a zoom call with will see it and get intimidated. That's the point we're at now. The woke consultants are running Hollywood.
There wouldn't be superhero fatigue with great stories. Inconsistent characters, plot holes and bad writing is just frustrating to deal with.
4:05 - The title of the book behind this 'mystery-meat' says it all.
It all starts with the woke agenda. Fan fatigue is just a symptom of the real problem. Lucasfilm and Marvel Studios should be powerhouses in the entertainment industry. On par with MGM, Dreamworks, etc. Saying that the space is over populated is denying the existence of the fan base of the comics themselves. Every character, every spin off, every franchise has established characters and tells established stories. For the most part. Does this mean that the comics industry is over saturated too? If so, where's the fan fatigue there? I would personally say no. The problem in the comics industry, just like Hollywood, is the woke agenda. Something that I believe is being well mitigated by the rise of independent and crowd funded self publishing as well as the fan backlash against these insufferable wokeists.
Hey Disney don't send a black guy to represent you in a debate
So, Jesse, when are you gonna ask to join Will or Gary's podcasts?
300 million w no ad buget included?! What are they dpending that money on? Not cg, not actors or crew. Their stockholders need to compel an audit. That total is more padded than kitten mittens! They must be wearing suits of cash that make Lizzo seem petite when they travel!
@Berstalin
Ай бұрын
Reshoots are common now at disney and bringing back actors to do reshoots cost a lot. And US films have way to many people behind the scenes doing nothing but standing there thinking they are important/needed. Assistant of this and that. The assistant of the assistant of the assistant etc. And CGI is in so high demand that prices go up and yet quality is going down due overworked CGI companies and talent that moves out of the industry or gets axed for some DEI Bs. Yes Esg/Dei has entered the chat at CGi companies aswell. And then everybody is suprised the CGI quality is going down when boxticking is becoming normalised.
@user-vd5uq4uc9b
Ай бұрын
@@Berstalin Thank you for the clarity. I appreciate the detail. Its profoundly depressing but insightful.
I didn't like black panther. i think people just say it was good because it is politically correct. It wasn't as woke as later films but i just found it boring, unbelievable and with bad cgi. I didn't even finish the film because i was so bored.
The identity politics in Black panther wasn't as bad because it fit the geographical and pseudo-historical setting. Unlike many other projects where the inclusion of black people don't fit and becomes a distraction and breaks immersion (like beauty and the beast in a puritan village of 1500s france).
The Critical Drinker not only calls out the crap that doesn't work in movies, he also offers suggestions for change as well. It's what makes his criticism constructive rather than reductive.
It's hard to fight using great logic, like Critical Drinker's opening statements, when the opposition stubbornly believes that their woke centric writing is good writing.
The last Disney fare I saw in the cinema was The Last Jedi. After that, I was done.
@XxDeZZoRxX
Ай бұрын
Same, that movie was such an insult to the franchise and intelligence of its viewer, I don’t actually think I’ve spent a penny towards Disney since
1) One should ask professional victims if they believe to be hated by the majority of people (they will say Yes) then ask them why are they making characters similar to them and still think they're gonna be successful, if they're that hated. 2) that 'activist' implied that Black Panther was successful because it had black people in it. Is he suggesting a race component in every other successful film?...'cause that argument is in favor of white people, by FAR. In quality and number of films that were successful! By his logic white people have won 1000 : 1 !!! He's so focused on being r4cist against whites that he doesn't even see he's horribly r4cist to blacks!!
There are too many interruptions. You should have just let the debate play.
@monsterislandtales5788
4 күн бұрын
It’s a Piers Morgan interview. There would have been hundreds of interruptions anyway.
@rolandrush5172
2 күн бұрын
I think you are lost
Very nice video.. very perfectly mentioned the issues. Thanks
Movie industry has been corporatize. A movie is an art form and need to be made by an artists.
Seeing the book "The Case For Cancel Culture" prominently displayed on the Disney rep's shelf and the first words out of his mouth, I immediately had an "oof" moment.
Super hero fatigue is an excuse for bringing modern politics to a BILLION dollar franchise. They knocked out their heavy hitters, which is fine...if you replace them with stories and a new developing cannon that nods to the comic book nerds but creates a great succession of Marvel adventures. Nope, Disney made a stand on their movie themes and they're not learning the lessons of other major franchises that owned their mistakes and corrected course.