Marvel Respond To Nerdrotic & "Toxic" Fans - But It Backfires
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Disney Marvel have once again attempted some damage control and have stated their plan to improve their movies and reduce the amount of content they've been producing. Especially in regards to the MCU. However Nerdrotic recently exposed the hypocrisy of these comments in his latest video, where he shows all the times Bob Iger has made this exact promise and failed to deliver. So will Disney and Marvel stay true to their word here or fail once again?
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South park said already why Disney is failing " PUT A CHICK IN IT AND MAKE IT GAY "
@impactsuit9871
14 күн бұрын
And LAME!
@jorgebarriosmur
12 күн бұрын
Hey! I don`t mind if the protagonist is a lady, a gay, trans, gender-fluid, or whatever IF IT MAKES SENSE, and the writing, actors, and directors are coherent. But just pushing down your throat that the hero is a strong and independent non-binary, non-male, non-cis and non white person, and pretend to base the succes of your movie on this fact, is a recipie for disaster......
@JackNapier420
12 күн бұрын
@@jorgebarriosmur couldn't agree more
They're oozing with "we hear you, we don't care" energy.
@thejessegrant
14 күн бұрын
Ahahaha
@spud69g
14 күн бұрын
Because the goal is destruction of everything. Chaos needs no other reaaon.
@ryanmoore6259
14 күн бұрын
Nor should they. People complaining about wokeness are the kind of people who want blacks to be slaves, women to be chattel, and muslims herded into gas chambers. Frankly Nerdrotic and his ilk need to fuck off
@supermodestmouse
14 күн бұрын
Yup. "Slowing down" content creation doesn't mean anything when it's still trash.
@user-mh4tx8zl4s
14 күн бұрын
Its corporate speak....until they feel enough pain in the pocket, things will not change.
I find it so entertaining that Disney once considered KZreadrs to be nothing, but now, they’re actually scared of them and blame them whenever a project fails.
@NoshikiYT
14 күн бұрын
It’s kinda true but idk
@GiblixStudio
14 күн бұрын
all the companies had to do was keep creating quality content and there would be a market. but when they actively insult and chase the customers away... then other platforms will become a threat. they only have themselves to blame for their failures.
@tripler2833
14 күн бұрын
@@NoshikiYT Not really. These KZreadrs express their disappointment of what the MCU has become, and all the blameshifting that Marvel and Disney is doing. But shifting the blame on someone else does not make anything better.
@jkleylein
14 күн бұрын
They are a handy scapegoat to provide cover for their incompetence.
@kicknowledgesmith8608
14 күн бұрын
I doubt they are scared of youtubers. They just found someone to blame their failures on.
The TRUTH is that the MCU is DEAD and Disney killed it.
@jonstark7106
14 күн бұрын
Disney is dead too
@paulbohnert685
14 күн бұрын
They also destroyed Star Wars as well!
@Michael-id9bw
14 күн бұрын
That being said, from the responses to the trailers and the first two movies, Deadpool Wolverine will likely kill it at the box office worldwide.
@ultraclunt9667
14 күн бұрын
They kill everything. Apparently they’re targeting anime now.
@WeebMeister37
14 күн бұрын
How is MCU dead when it still has the mass amount of viewers? It’s starting to get better after they’ve admitted that it’s been bad for the past few movies (with some exceptions)
I love how it works now. Viewers say “this movie wasn’t any good.” The response is “you’re just toxic.”
@zach11241
14 күн бұрын
We shouldn’t give them the dignity of a response. Call the movie trash and walk on because that’s what trash deserves. Thrown away and never thought of again.
@stillgrieves1015
13 күн бұрын
This is why I convinced they were organized. Because they used Schopenhauer's debates theory.
@moonshoes11
13 күн бұрын
Most of them are toxic.
@arlopear7136
13 күн бұрын
they're not talking about the "this movie wasn't any good" fan & I'm pretty sure you know that. Or maybe you don't, which is scary that you could possibly be that dense. They're talking about all these clowns that act like their movie is an assault on White men & American families (Yes I have heard both of these things from idiot fans). Fans who's whole personality is about crying Woke when you see a lead that isn't a White Male & cries "Agenda" & even parrots the racist "Great Replacement Theory" (Yes it is racist, go debate a brickwall) If they cast a minority in a role that had a White actor. No countering with, "Well then they should cast a White guy to Black Panther" isn't being clever at all, it just makes you look stupid.
@steviejunior9692
13 күн бұрын
@@moonshoes11 not really. Not liking a movie isn’t toxic. Not liking how characters are changed for no reason at all isn’t toxic. And it’s funny. Most of the recent marvel movies have failed regardless of who the main character was. Male or female. The movies aren’t good. Yet it’s toxic to say that.
I am a brown male and I feel the MCU is not for me.
@justinschnoor9459
14 күн бұрын
I wonder who it is for anymore.
@TheIndianaGeoff
14 күн бұрын
@justinschnoor9459 Writers and producers... of diverse something something.
@jackblack375
14 күн бұрын
@@TheIndianaGeoffExactly
@johnrussell5592
14 күн бұрын
Well, there's your problem, Goku, like Donna said, you're "male-presenting". It ISN'T for you. Or me. Even less for me, I suppose, as I'm of Scottish extraction, making me fish-belly pale. I have two strikes against me.
@johnbernhardtsen3008
13 күн бұрын
My lil bro and his family thought that The Marvels was made for kids, when I mentioned how much it cost to produce, reshooot and what not, he laughed! "it surely couldnt have cost more than an actual Avenger assembled movie he asked!"
If you tell me you don't want my money, don't get ticked off when I don't give it to you.
@Lennox1224
14 күн бұрын
They're more angry that we're not buying into their propaganda
@RoseBaggins
14 күн бұрын
Yeah, I was going to say, haven't they done this multiple times now? What makes them think the outcome would be any different from the past several times?
@mr.doctorcaptain1124
14 күн бұрын
That’s the weirdest part for me. If it’s not made for me, why the fuck do you expect me to support it???? So weird.
@frednone
14 күн бұрын
@@RoseBaggins You know what Einstein said about people doing things multiple times and expecting different results?
@antonkovalenko364
14 күн бұрын
@@frednone #VaasWasRight
Notes to disney(and any modern writer/producer/director)... People have more depth than their sexuality. And the way to write strong female characters isn't to make the men weak while also making the women some unhinged version of toxic masculinity. Stop with the messaging.
@thejessegrant
14 күн бұрын
100% agree
@justiceforusall7038
14 күн бұрын
this right here bro. we have countless examples of strong women over the past 20 -30 years. follow those examples. Xena, Draper from expanse, hell, plucking power rangers 🤣🤣
@Wearywastrel
14 күн бұрын
@@justiceforusall7038and they can't be afraid to give female characters human flaws to learn how to adapt to! No more, "the secret was that I was perfect all along."
@akuhappy3246
14 күн бұрын
💯
@spacegordonramsay2486
14 күн бұрын
@@justiceforusall7038I agree but in drapers defense, in the books she was a 6'5 behemoth marine who went 1v1 with a Battleship and actually won and more impressively, kicked Amoses butt and that's just what she did in her 50s earlier in the books she was somehow even more unhinged. I feel that she was actually toned down a bit in the show down a bit in the shows
When you cater to 10% of your audience while demonizing 60% or more of your audience, well, you don't have to be a genius to open your eyes. These companies can jump.
@gearguy603
14 күн бұрын
10%, you are being generous! 😂😂😂
@johnrussell5592
14 күн бұрын
@@gearguy603 WAY too generous!
@budthechud9795
14 күн бұрын
The true percentage is about 0.5%
@raynaldboucher5722
13 күн бұрын
They are jumping lmao
Sorry about all the sh!t sandwiches. To make up for it, here's a sh!t sandwich with cheese.
@MephiticMiasma
14 күн бұрын
....for those of you who are lactose intolerant...
@NextWheneration
14 күн бұрын
And when I say "cheese", I mean "liquid shit".
@MundaneThingsBackwards
14 күн бұрын
We're only going to feed you 4 of them too instead of the standard 5. =)
@darthlaurel
14 күн бұрын
You and all the responses...I'm dying!
@ShaneDouglas713
14 күн бұрын
In a nutshell
I think it's functionally impossible. They can't write good stories because they don't start with the story, they start with a DEI list of requirements and then someone tries to fit all of those things into a story. They need to change priorities or it's hopeless.
10 years worth of hard work to build up a cinematic universe, and the woke killed it in less than half that time.
@budgiecat9039
14 күн бұрын
Very telling that this all started to happen as soon as Ike Perlmutter was no longer in charge and Stan Lee died....
@akuhappy3246
14 күн бұрын
💯
@DennisSlungard
14 күн бұрын
Phase 1 to 3 brought in almost $30 billion and they just threw it all away.
@shadowednight1600
14 күн бұрын
Always takes less time to destroy than build
@fordguy2836
14 күн бұрын
Endgame was the last movie I actually enjoyed
Disney is the abusive spouse who promises to reform to get the other to stay, but then never does.
I honestly think it's time we embrace the "toxic" label. Ok, we're toxic. We're also the vast majority of your audience. You want our toxic money, so make us toxic movies. Quick, who's the most toxic female actress you can think of? Cara Dune? Ok cool, she gets a spin off series. Show us all the battles she fought in, and how she got the tear. Make it toxic af. Next.... Who's not toxic at all? Male and female... Ok, you're fired. Just make toxic movies again. Give us some of the original Alien and Aliens toxicity. Give us Ironman and Capt America toxicity. Terminator, holy hell, give us that toxic Linda Hamilton. But untoxic boss babe snow white? Nope, gone. Utterly wholesome zero toxic she hulk with the twerking, nope. Medicinal "black girl magic" lady, nope, it needs much more toxicity. We only want toxic movies, and that's all that's going to get our money.
@SubZero-hs9xc
14 күн бұрын
Is amazing how you all belle e everything Jesse Grant says like good little sheeps
@noneyabizz8337
14 күн бұрын
@@SubZero-hs9xc it's weird you don't see what's obvious to literally millions of people
@peterixxx
14 күн бұрын
Re-tox the freak in me.
@macmcleod1188
14 күн бұрын
I think you should embrace the "customer" label when they try to call you a "fan". Using "fan" makes them feel entitled to your time and money.
@damianketcham
14 күн бұрын
Based!!
Its mind boggling that they continue to attack fans even after they're losing billions because of it. They clearly don't want to make money.
@Lennox1224
14 күн бұрын
Not really, they get ESG money, thats why they dont have to care about fans anymore, its all about pushing "The Message"
@grumpysloth7928
14 күн бұрын
Its not about the money its about pushing the agenda to change society. The WEF already said they fully intend to force society to change its behavior. They will do this by making every place people have tried to escape full of their ideology. This is meant to target the youth and change them. Once they corrupt a single generation then society is lost and they gain full control. Its strait out of the Mao playbook. We are in a communist/marxist coup and people refuse to admit it yet.
@johnrussell5592
14 күн бұрын
@@Lennox1224 There's a limit to how low the ratings can go before the funding gets pulled, though. If "The Message" isn't getting out ...
@anthonymorenosorto2743
13 күн бұрын
How gullible can you be to at you actually believe this
@johnrussell5592
13 күн бұрын
@@anthonymorenosorto2743 Are you the pimple-faced pre-adult on your account page, or are you the groomer sponsoring him? Either way, don't talk to us about gullible, scooter.
"cracking down on quality". In the same way the video game industry "listens" to their community.
@NoshikiYT
14 күн бұрын
Yeah fr
@nengifiedgamer7576
14 күн бұрын
Not being able to fully own your games is criminal work, isn't it
@jeremyallen5974
14 күн бұрын
Fromsoft: If you don't shower us in blind praise them you're nothing but an incel!
@lupomena
14 күн бұрын
A lot of games do listen to their community. We do have shitty ones like halo and cod who ignore their fans but other games really try to make them fans happy
@TheGreySage0
14 күн бұрын
They cracking down on High Quality not low Quality 🤣
Marvel is for EVERYONE, not just people of different color.
@watergirl929
14 күн бұрын
lol I’d say it’s for no one right now.
@lumbagoboi1649
14 күн бұрын
@@watergirl929that's true lol
@RichSmithson
13 күн бұрын
Women but they don't give a damn about super hero movies. @@watergirl929
I didn't watch the Cpt Marvel films because the leading lady said "I'm not making these films for men." I couldn't tell you if they sucked or not because I voted with my dollars and watched something the creators wanted me to watch. I'm not spending a dollar on a film that isn't made to interest me at all. Disney needs to realize that while films are art, they're also producing a product for sale (to recover the cost of producing it and turn a profit) that someone has to want to buy into. I'm not going to buy a ticket for a film that I've been made to feel that I'm unwelcome to watch. I should point out that I don't care if the Protagonist is a woman, but the "Girls get it done!" (I'm pretty sure they were mocking the scene in "The Boys" during the filming of "Dawn of the Seven".) moment in Endgame really showed the MCU was going to fail. The woke movement chafes at "male domination" in the films and then do the same thing with women rather than showing strong male and female characters working together like the comics used to show when I was a kid (several decades ago). Inverting the effect of a problem doesn't fix the problem. It only changes who gets hurt.
I'm not that bothered anymore I've just stopped paying their subscriptions and stopped going to the cinema to watch the films that they produce
Some of us are Black as the ace of Spades boi! And we still don't rock with this post Endgame Marvel.
@budgiecat9039
14 күн бұрын
Nobody likes shitty content
@williampotter3369
14 күн бұрын
if one is not a "fan" one cannot be a "toxic fan". disney must be running out of toxic fans to annoy and no one is left to consume their slop
@TheGhostofMrArthurs
14 күн бұрын
endgame was already stupid trash. Thankfully the 3 spiderman movies were great. But the MCU peaked at infinity war. Endgame was a letdown
@2kx62
14 күн бұрын
@@TheGhostofMrArthursend game was great, u just didn’t watch it right, it’s not really a movie, it’s more of a celebration that relies heavily on the previous movies building up to that moment.
@TheGhostofMrArthurs
14 күн бұрын
@@2kx62 endgame was trash, simple as that, and i went to see every MCU movie in theaters fro mthe jump, and endgame was a letdown. from the introduction of time travel, to the wall of vaginas saving spiderman, it was all just boring trash
Imagine if a multi-billion dollar company said the same thing about literally any other race and how many discrimination lawsuits would ve filed against them
@MiqelDotCom
14 күн бұрын
Well, if you watched the video you'd know they never actually said that, it's just a clickbait thumbnail.
Forget about disney! This isn't no longer a entertainment company. But just a platform of Ideological fanaticism
@Galfrid
14 күн бұрын
Well said! 🥂
Disney says it will focus on quality over politics. They've only said that SIX TIMES IN A ROW now.
@kicknowledgesmith8608
14 күн бұрын
They said the word politics?! That be silly because most comic book stories involve politics. Captain America films are all about politics, same with the Iron man films. The word politics is so confusing these days, do you mean social messages?! X-men has plenty messages, good writing can make things look better. Spider- verse did it, X-men 97 is doing it. Is it poor writing or politics that's the issue?!
It’s not quantity it’s pushing way too much politics and too much agenda. After endgame I could not be more excited for all the massive amount of content but it was all the same all woke bs.
@warrencapaldi9544
14 күн бұрын
It’s shit writing
@NoshikiYT
14 күн бұрын
@@warrencapaldi9544exactly
@budgiecat9039
14 күн бұрын
@@NoshikiYTthey'll never admit this
@kicknowledgesmith8608
14 күн бұрын
the actors, directors talking politics or the movies?! what politics are in these movies?! or is the quality of writing just poor?! Iron Man 1 and 2 had politics. All the Captain America movies had politics, etc. or is it politics you don't like?! trying to understand because the word politics these days is confusing. Most comics are political.
@thetabletopskirmisher
14 күн бұрын
Exactly. I was SO looking forward to Stage 4. Now I don't care. Meh.
The problem is that they are still in BlackRock's pocket, so nothing will change.
@williampotter3369
14 күн бұрын
but, one white male, the bossman, has decided that you will like this stuff so it must be true. hahhhaahahaha
@MundaneThingsBackwards
14 күн бұрын
Blackrock cant justify throwing money down a hole ad infinitum to its investors. Cut the black pill shit. Things are ALREADY changing. They've dramatically lessened the number of projects they're working on just to give an obvious example. Then there's all the reshoots for the recent movies (still flops) that apparently diluted the most overt politics and IP sabotage. Even the actors are deleting politically charged tweets and shutting the hell up about anything but the projects they're supposed to be promoting. Look at the Oscars. The industry and Disney in particular are in a panic and are doing everything to correct course besides drop the political bias and casting priorities completely.
They’re trying so hard to pander to people who aren’t even interested in the genre and ruining it for the original fans
@williampotter3369
14 күн бұрын
but, if one is not a "fan" one is not "toxic" and therefor not part of the problem over at disney. ...as a non-fan, does that mean they're pandering to me now? i dont know; sure does not feel like it. i know some human females, and/or feminists, and they didn't seem to like any of that stuff either; hated indiana jones, willow, she-hulk, etc etc etc.... are the movies and shows for them, perhaps? maybe, it's for the second wave feminists from the 60s and 70s. you know, literal "boomers"; mostly karens these days. hahaha yes! these movies are for elderly karens and no one else
@Goaway95
14 күн бұрын
@@williampotter3369 idk who theyre for but they aren’t for me anymore
@RichSmithson
13 күн бұрын
ITs once again "Our product is for everyone" actually means "Our product is for no one except this tiny group of people we like"
Wasn’t MOST of the Avengers cast “straight white men”?
@FreighttrainDaniel1225
14 күн бұрын
I doubt they’ll stay that way with how characters are pandering
@dudeguy8686
14 күн бұрын
Just wait til you see their "young avengers"
@jaep2495
14 күн бұрын
@@FreighttrainDaniel1225 just depends on who's pandering to you and how agreeable/acceptable it is. you wouldn't have problems with a youtube channel pandering to you about disney pandering
@jonathanlewis1981
14 күн бұрын
Except for Captain America yeah all straight white men and women
@ralphtaylor7448
14 күн бұрын
Exactly we don’t need more
Every person on earth with an IQ >89 knows quantity can be harmful to quality. He said it like it was some sort of wisdom.
Disney took "Endgame" literally and havent made anything good since beside No Way Home and Guardians 3. Who is going to fight Galactus? The female c tier squad and the fantastic 4? Stfu Disney no one cares anymore
@gianthand8130
14 күн бұрын
I wasn’t crazy on No Way Home.
if you dont listen to your customers they are NOT GONNA PAY!
Disney needs to stop hating the nuclear family and return to their humble roots.
@kicknowledgesmith8608
14 күн бұрын
I hear you but Hawkeye has a nuclear family, Tony Stark had one and so did Black Panther. He had a mom dad and a sister. Thor had a nuclear family. Wasp also has a nuclear family that extends to Scott and Cassie. Disney is trash, but what you are saying is false.
@TaskMaster5
14 күн бұрын
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 And then you look at the recent Ant Man movie and see how their vision of a 'nuclear family' is a fucking clown show. And Hawkeye's family feels like lip service but they never allow that side of him to properly be explored.
@kicknowledgesmith8608
14 күн бұрын
@@TaskMaster5 Antman 3 was garbage for sure, but family wasn't the issue there. Poor writing, plain and simple. Antman started out as a joke, so him being a clown in part 3, was nothing new. Hawkeye family was explored fine. He was married, taught his daughter how to shoot arrows, his wife played her role and supported his avenging, he went on a killing spree because he lost hope, when they snapped away. what more you want from that story?! Hawkeye show wasn't great by any means, but certainly not the worst. Kate Bishop was at least likeable, and it made sense as to why she looked up to Clint, unlike Ms. Marvel being a fan girl of Captain Marvel, it makes 0 sense in the MCU. She was on earth for like 5 minutes.
@Kalbuir66
14 күн бұрын
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 I think you don't understand the OP's point. You give a couple very minor and weak examples of things that happen in a couple shows while ignoring the fact that many higher ups in the Disney corporation have been caught out saying they are pushing their queer agenda. You can't push a queer agenda and also be an advocate for the nuclear family. Disney's overall ideology is about breaking down the family.
@Bopperann
14 күн бұрын
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 Tony's gone. Black Panther replaced. Is Hawkeye still around? Who cares about Wasp? Didn't they retire Thor? (Love and Thunder was trash regardless.) Ant Man is constantly undermined by his daughter in 3. What has been shown recently? Men are jokes or non-threat villains. None of it is wholesome.
this open counter racism is really getting outta hand
@noneyabizz8337
14 күн бұрын
Racism is racism.
@mnbrn6623
14 күн бұрын
There is no such thing as "counter racism", only racism.
@ArcaneExThrashAW
14 күн бұрын
@@mnbrn6623no, you are thinking about Reverse Racism. They are using a proper term, they are attempting counter racism… against a bunch of people not being racist… but racism is never the solution.
@FunnyTummyART
14 күн бұрын
But no one said marvel isn't for white people
@NoshikiYT
14 күн бұрын
@@FunnyTummyARTexactly nobody did it’s for everyone of any race any ethnicity etc
The problem with fixing characters like Echo, She Hulk and similar characters is that it is hard to do. Since their first shows were terrible, they need to be actually great to get redemption with the fans. A new character will start from a better position and anything above mediocre is enough to get to the same place. I don't think Marvel have any great people left and in that case, it is better to just bring in someone else from the source material. Complaining that Nerdrotic points out that Iger have been saying the same thing for a long while now without actually doing much besides moving some projects back is not a great idea, it only makes them look like they are not doing what they are saying and get mad whenever someone points that out. They are also risking another Streisand effect so it would have been better to not say anything at all.
I guess that includes Asian we were told we are white adjacent thank you marvel the less money to spend.
@2kx62
14 күн бұрын
Ik Asians in America that considers there selfs white.
@Rovr0
12 күн бұрын
I can totally see Bob Iger and Disney leadership calling Asians “white adjacent.” I’m also sure that statement came after all the mirrors in the building were removed lol.
They don’t know how woke they are. That’s the problem.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
14 күн бұрын
Every M-SHE-U is extremely woke, yet Disney fails to realize making woke products doesn't sell well.
@SubZero-hs9xc
14 күн бұрын
"Woooke"
@Wipeout186
14 күн бұрын
They do know how woke they are it is all done on purpose.
Disney ruins everything they touch. They bought Marvel, replacing the popular/edgy/cool content with DEI rubbish. Ditto Star Wars. Ditto Hulu.
Deadpool doesn’t need to save the MCU! Deadpool needs to destroy the MCU and replace it with the Fox Universe!
@aldunlop4622
8 күн бұрын
Deadpool can do whatever he likes, I won't be giving any of my money to Disney...
@ParkerCS2
8 күн бұрын
@@aldunlop4622 I’m not giving my money to Disney either. Because even if Deadpool is good I don’t want to give Disney my hard earned cash.
heres how to solve this issue: make 2 versions of every movie. 1 woke version and 1 normal version. see which one does better in theaters and brings in more money in a years time. guaranteed the woke version falls hard.
@ralphtaylor7448
14 күн бұрын
Exactly the normal version needs to have mentions of Jesus Christ and the bible in order to work
@TheJimmyClip
14 күн бұрын
Bot
@williampotter3369
14 күн бұрын
sounds expensive. disney spent almost a billion dollars making indiana jones and the dung-heap of destiny. i don't think they'd be able to afford making two movies at the same time; especially, if one of htose movies would actually return on the investment.
@John-fk2ky
14 күн бұрын
@@williampotter3369 well, they definitely can’t afford making just movies with a poor ROI.
@SubZero-hs9xc
14 күн бұрын
@@ralphtaylor7448Pffff hahaha
We didn't like "The Marvels" because we're sexist and yet "Charlie's Angel" was the 12th highest grossing film in 2000 and "Wonder Woman" was one of the best blockbuster of 2017, Ok.
@bhart3321
14 күн бұрын
That's because Charlie's Angels & Wonder Woman weren't sexist mary sue tropes. Well WW84 was, god they did Diana dirty in that movie, she literally SA a guy ffs! The Angels got beat up, blown up, & they we're constantly fumbling their relationships, which made them human. Xena whole show was her redemption arc. They establish her as a hardcore psychotic villain in Hercules to where she actually has to face someone just like her that her actions created in that first season. That's how you write good female characters.
@2kx62
14 күн бұрын
Wonder Woman was mid, the third act messed it up.
@blacksnk
14 күн бұрын
@@bhart3321 WW84 was crap. Joss Whedon really knew how to write good female characters. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly and The Avengers is a good example.
@bhart3321
14 күн бұрын
@@blacksnk Yup 84 really did her dirty. Joss was a great writer but he was also a phenomenal pos, an abusive control freak, & lech that used his position to create constant casting couch situation. On Buffy there was a hard rule on set amongst cast and crew that Michelle Trachtenberg was never to be alone with Joss at any time ever. Joss dug his own grave by thinking he was untouchable.
@blacksnk
14 күн бұрын
@@bhart3321 I did hear he was a huge douche to work with. Real shame.
Its sad Disney realizes the only way people look at any form of content from them its through KZread so now there trying to shut down anyone who hates there crap
The MCU's failures, after Endgame, is squarely due to Kevin Feige's incompetence and mismanagement. HE is the one who is in charge of Marvel Studios, HE is the one who was in charge of keeping focus, HE is responsible for overall quality control, HE is responsible for stopping showrunners/directors from ignoring the "overall universe plan" while doing their own thing for each installment and HE was the one in charge of continuity between films. It's also partly Iger and the Disney board's fault for not correcting Feige when the MCU started to fail massively under-performing in Phase 4 (same with not stopping Kathleen Kennedy ruining Star Wars and Lucasfilm).
@macmcleod1188
14 күн бұрын
You have it backwards. It's Eiger and the Disney board that *ORDERED* Feige to do this. He was faced with the choice to comply or leave his job earning millions of dollars per year. Some of it is coming from "Charlee Corra, a member of the Disney family, came out publicly as transgender" in 2022.
There's rich CEO's who hired people who have no idea what to do with the vast Marvel toybox given to them. All they had to do was make good movies for fans and their ego's prevent them from doing that and making a profit. There's a rich history of Marvel comics and these "producers" decide to take stories and characters from the lowest selling books. Comics sales have been down for decades and it's not just because of video games. Reprints and back issues sell fine. Good luck with the female Silver Surfer. I know I won't be attending that party.
In regards to quality, we'll believe it when we see it. Even then, we still have to be suspicious of how long sensible decisions last.
As someone who read Marvel books my entire childhood, it was a pleasure watching the first Iron Man during my senior skip day, then having the best cinematic experiences watching Infinity War and EndGame. We were spoiled with good content that decade. That's why I'm not so upset that Disney dropped the ball and might not recover
It isn't for your primary and largest audience? Ok...
but you see, making good movie doesnt get DEI points for Disney... as Bob said, DEI is more importance than making money..
I think if they just wrote good stories WITHOUT being afraid of the backlash from the vocal minority, grossly made up of non fans just looking for attention and "paper thin power", and wrote to the real fans requests, Marvel could live again.
Saying "Marvel isn't for men" is like saying "Barbie isn't for girls"... It makes no sense.
@RichSmithson
13 күн бұрын
Man all those girls in the 1990s sitting around their playstations playing Xmen vs Street Fighter!.
I feel like Marvel has forgotten what made movies like Black Panther so successful. It's perfectly possible to have a diverse cast, lovable protagonists, compelling antagonists, and a coherent plot if enough time- and, more importantly, care- is put into a movie.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
14 күн бұрын
I liked Blade, Spawn, Hancock, and Luke Cage more than Black Panther, but yes the audience members wants badass black characters and not straight white man bad characters.
@noneyabizz8337
14 күн бұрын
As w colonizer, I didnt much care for black panther. Their horse was too high for me to care
@macmcleod1188
14 күн бұрын
To be frank, they rushed Black Panther out with some *really bad* CGI in the fight scene. They should have held it a few more months to redo them at higher quality.
@macmcleod1188
14 күн бұрын
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Most people wen to see the celebration of african culture and the amazing technicolor clothing they wore along with various tribal markings. And not just a single strong black male but the entire cast of amazing black actors. Now.. imagine if Black Panther had gotten the DEI treatment and had asians, hispanics, several lgbtq characters limiting black characters to at most 25% of the cast and the writing team and the production staff were required to follow DEI hiring practices instead of hiring the most qualified people available. We would have missed a masterpiece.
At what point do shareholders personally sue the company?
Marvel responds to "toxic fans": *Backfired* Me: Mission failed successfully 😂
@thejessegrant
14 күн бұрын
Bahahaha
It all comes down to attitude. As a former programmer, I realised that I made mistakes and I wrote some real honkers. What did I do? Blame the users? Blame the operators? NO, I took the code, rewrote it so that it did what it was supposed to do and THEN I dealt with the fallout. That's all that Disney needs to do, and I don't mean reshoot every damn thing. The idea needs to be analysed, the script needs to be evaluated and the production needs to be planned properly. None of this working from a notebook, a reduction of poorly shot green screens and, primarily, good stories that people want to see rather than endless rounds of identity preaching.
@anonygent
14 күн бұрын
They need to SCRAP every damn thing and find a writer who can write.
@michaelstrachan1185
14 күн бұрын
I kinda cite the sonic movie on how the studios should act. They put out the design everyone said that was shit They then redesigned to be more accurate. Whether that was entirely set up I don't know but it carries favour with the fans
@anonygent
14 күн бұрын
@@michaelstrachan1185 Even back then, the wokies complained that Sony shouldn't have listened to the fans.
@MundaneThingsBackwards
14 күн бұрын
None of the mistakes you made were because of your ideology. That's the problem with Disney and the other failing studios. "Fixing" the kinds of mistakes that led Disney down this road would mean rejecting all the morality they ascribed to themselves while admitting the "Notsee" sexists and racists were right all along. Not going to happen. LOL
Whatever happened to that Disney Marvel that said female led superhero movies are not financially successful? Can we have them back?
@drewx3199
14 күн бұрын
I have no problem seeing female superhero movies. I just have a problem with movies where they mess up the characters and/or the story.
@metall7331
14 күн бұрын
@@drewx3199 Same, but unfortunately the ones that have been (and will be) made are terrible because for some reason they keep hiring female directors to make female-led superhero movies. Women can't make good superhero movies, at least ones that are targeted towards majority of the fan base, men. It's sounds harsh but it true.
@drewx3199
14 күн бұрын
@@metall7331 I disagree. There are some good female directors out there. But instead of hiring accomplished female directors they hire directors of low budget activist films.
@metall7331
14 күн бұрын
@@drewx3199 A very talented female director who understands the genre and audience might be able to, but a female-led superhero has way more chance of success, critically and financially if they just let a guy do it.
Is there much difference between CEOs and politicians? They just tell you what you want to hear, and then do whatever they want without consequences anyways.
The Fantastic 4 could have really lit the fire again but they screwed it up already
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
14 күн бұрын
They killed off a badass white actor to replace him with a Jewish actor no one wants to watch and see, so yes wokeness is what is truly killing Disney as a company.
I have to say that Feminists and Simps are absolutely powerful together. One keeps on taking and one keeps on giving. Happily living in a delusional world. Exactly what's going on with MCU atm.
@godslayer2797
14 күн бұрын
@@williampotter3369 More like woke fans
If their not making it for (certain) fans and those (certain) fans choose not to pay big money to watch the movies....... whats the problem ?
So it’s not for people with most of the money then? No wonder so many of their projects bomb.
Gonna have to clean house. Get rid of ALL the DEI hires. But the infection has settled deep in the body of Disney, so it’s not gonna be easy.
I agree with Elon, 🖕”Hey, Bob”
Bob Iger is starting to sound like a weatherman rather than a CEO.... oh wait...
@aldunlop4622
8 күн бұрын
He's a spineless simp only out for a paycheck.
Nerdrotic,CD,Disparu,etc are my go to movie review channels !
Disney the same company that changed She-Hulks origin story and deconstruct Hulk due to sexism then allow Tatiana to come out and complain about sexism being the reason nobody liked the show.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
14 күн бұрын
The twerking scene also would've only been arousing if Disney showed the ass cheeks of Magan the Stallion's ass cheeks and She-Hulk ass cheeks fully nude and uncensored.
It isn't for the black man, either. Lol
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
14 күн бұрын
@@williampotter3369 , even if I were a black man I'd still like characters like Simon from Durarara, Mr.1 from One Piece, and the Ninjas in Naruto more than characters like race swapped Captain America, Miles Morales, and Black Panther.
Quantity IS NOT their problem. Their lack of creative ability is. Plain and simple. Constant reshoots because they don't know what they are doing when it comes to making a compelling, competent movie or tv show is why they have problems. If they knew how to make quality from the start, their quantity would be fine. This is what happens when you only hire activists.
I'm latina, female, and marvel isn't for me either. Who is their target??? Invisible people, apparently. I'm only watching X-men 97' because it was a pleasant surprise, you can tell it was made by true fans of the comics: the respect they show for characters (shapes and backgrounds), the twists they chose from the comics, etc. As a fan of the comics and characters that's what you expect, not creative thieves appropriating them to use their facade to fill them with souls that are not theirs. "Female empowerment" is crap if you use it only to piss off "the patriarchy". Stories need empathy and souls, they are not empty pamphlets or propaganda to "attack" your supposed "enemies".
@b.a.carroll2735
8 күн бұрын
X-men '97 was indeed a pleasant surprise. It's a shame when you're watching one of this company's products, at this point, and think: "Oh my God, this is actually good! How did that happen?"
1- Stop hiring activists and start hiring writers, directors, and actors who appreciate the source material and the fans of said material. 2- Stop hiring anyone based on their race, gender, or sexual orientation then see #1.
Jesse, you did a good job describing the situation. My theory is that Disney has already had their corporate purge. There may be a handful of reality-based hold-outs left, but they are not large enough to make an impact. The bi-polar messaging from Disney's propaganda department has more to do with them not wanting to take ownership of their mistakes. Claiming the problem has to do with 'quantity over quality,' while simultaneously refusing to change what they are doing to delete 'agenda-driven' messaging in story and production, indicates they are trying to claim 'we have changed' while not changing the substance of what they are doing at all. In short, the media promotion claiming fans are toxic is what the current Disney employees feel; the articles claiming they are going to decrease output to increase quality is just PR to try and save face. They will reduce output. They have no choice financially. But they will not change the political narratives driving their content. Less political content does not mean 'better' political content. And the audience already knows this...
Traditionally in TVs and Movies , popular supporting characters would get a spin off. Take Frasier for example. He was a popular character in Cheers, and eventually got his own show. On the other hand, take marvel. Oh yeah Echo was in Hawkeye, and she's a bad ass deaf chick. Let's just green light her because she's a woman. This could be a whole video btw.
Ok. Bye Disney. Hope your new intended audience will actually put their money into your coffers in place of all the fans you lost.
@ParkerCS2
14 күн бұрын
Exactly because I’m not gonna give them my money either. I’m not even gonna support Deadpool even if it turns out to be good because Disney owns it!
@SubZero-hs9xc
14 күн бұрын
Lol you guys believe anything Jesse Grant Puy on a thumbnail
Disney Marvel honestly thought that they could do no wrong. Sadly it appears that all they can do is wrong, and it's not just the Marvel arm of Disney, Star Wars, Pixar, Disney Animated, Disney Live Action. So many of their last releases have failed to make a profit
They have to fire the people that are bigoted against men. Everything they make is filled with rage and contempt. It's creepy.
I assumed it was made for tiktok kids who were confused they wouldn't swipe to the next video after 30 seconds and checked out. So their target criwd was gone, and thd old crowd wasn't interested.
Well, the MCU isnt for anyone at this point 😂😂
Movies are for everybody. There are target audiences for films, but if you are a movie fan, you'll watch anything.
Its an age of participation award writing. They want to make a movie, say they tried really hard, and get praised for it. But the movie sucks, they get made fun of, and then try to cry for mommy. It's everyone else's fault.
Only way to disney makes me trust them is to I hear that they fired all lesbians in their workforce
@noneyabizz8337
14 күн бұрын
The men aren't any better. The problem is Hollywood as a whole.
@FretNoMore
14 күн бұрын
I think LGB are mostly OK, it's the other crazy letters that have to go and take their pronouns with them out the door.
@SubZero-hs9xc
14 күн бұрын
Wow, why im not surprised this isnt the range of people this channel attracts
They constantly state that they are making movies for the "Modern Audience". The game "The Suiside Squad Killed The Justice League" has them all. All 150 odd. Lol!
Always remember, they hate you.
When I was a child, Disney was where dreams were made. Now as an adult, Disney is where dreams go to die.
@thejessegrant
14 күн бұрын
Ahahahah jeez
I agree...so they wont need my money then.
It's all down to one word: compromise. Most reasonable people are prepared to compromise. But the social justice warriors are not prepared to compromise because they, self righteously, believe they are so right that anyone who disagrees with them on any point is not just wrong, but evil. So I'm sure there are people within Disney who just want to tell good stories, but they are being hamstrung by people who want to prioritise social justice activism over stories. When you produce a 3rd rate film with a very diverse cast and your claim is that, 'this film is literally saving lives', then you've completely lost the plot and and revealing yourself as both arrogant and narcissistic.
@anonygent
14 күн бұрын
Unlikely. Disney purged all the old white men long ago. There's no one left at Disney with any talent.
@SubZero-hs9xc
14 күн бұрын
Lool, you guys have to Reval tutte yourself, you are t sone soldier or anything
As a toxic marvel fanboi, bring it. You need us, more then we need you.
We don't have super hero movie fatigue. We have bad super hero movie fatigue. We'll still happily re-watch the early ones, which is not the case if we had super hero movie fatigue.
I dont see how they dont get this. If I make a batch of cookies that everyone likes, then 2 people come up and say they dont like it and I have to change it. So I do and now these 2 people like it but I lost all my old customers that like the old way. Then the 2 that did leave because its not the trend anymore. Who loses the most?
@Kalbuir66
14 күн бұрын
Hey....stop using logic...someone's bound to get hurt! lol
@johnnymidnight2982
14 күн бұрын
Ah! But here's the kicker: You change the recipe to cater to the 2 whiny people, and they STILL don't like it - now, no one likes your cookies.
First thank U for not backing down 🤜
@thejessegrant
14 күн бұрын
Ahahaha
@SubZero-hs9xc
14 күн бұрын
Thank you for making the 5009 video on a topic he al ready made, with a lying thumb nail? Lol
First rule of content, computers and entertainment: crap in crap out. If all you offer is bs, no one is going to like it. Go woke, go broke. Grizzle Grizzle.
It's so weird how us racist, toxic fanbois all universally loved Samual L Jackson (before he called us Incels). I guess we have selective racism or something.
I’m not gonna return to the MCU aka MSHEU! And not even going to watch Deadpool because Disney owns it and even if it’s good I don’t want to give them my money!
"Volume is detrimental to quality." Notice that he didn't say that subverting fan favorite IPs, bad writing, and lecturing the audience is detrimental to box office receipts. By insulting the audience, they've turned disappointed fans into dedicated enemies.
Movies should be for the fans and not a studio or producers platform to preach whatever social nonsense is popular that week.
It’s sad how he’s 54 acting like this besides I’m more mature than that 54 year old incel
@DVT-lp9rz
14 күн бұрын
Nerdrotic is a loser he literally used to sell meth to kids (look it up its true)
@DVT-lp9rz
14 күн бұрын
Nerdrotic is a former meth dealer who sold it to kids
@paoloscavalcacinghie428
14 күн бұрын
Ahahahah! Cry harder and seethe even more! And nice coping, by the way 🤣🤣
@NoshikiYT
14 күн бұрын
@@paoloscavalcacinghie428racist comments you’ve made
@ian-flanagan
14 күн бұрын
A married "incel"? You need to ask if you're using words logically, or just insulting tribalistically. "Incel" now means: "a word I can call someone I disagree with to remove their humanity, so I don't need to treat them with basic human respect" You can do that, I guess, but don't then pretent to be "liberal" or a good, open-minded person
Guardians 3 barely broke even. It wasn’t a big hit at $845 million. Only Barbie, Mario Bros broke $1 Billion. Oppenheimer beat Guardians by $100 million and the return was much higher because the budget is much less.
People who obsess about superficial race and gender can't make great content with depth, the two objectives are antithetical to eachother.
The biggest mistake by Disney/Marvel it's believing that they created an unconditional audience, the vast majority are people that only goes for the entertain value, they are not interested in getting deep into the mythos or knew everything about it, the references and so on. They were blinded by the success and not realizing that Endgame was a break point and whatever was coming after that will not maintain the momentum that they think they reach, Endgame was the last nail on the coffin, they didn't know and I believe they still haven't realized it. They needed to take a break and reorganize.
@macmcleod1188
14 күн бұрын
After endgame, they should have returned to making lower budget movies and taken 5 years to build up the new cast of characters. And they shouldn't have talked about genderbending the male characters and the "New Phase is Female" crap. They wanted to start on third base with the new films when they were really started a new game and had to start all over again.
I believe this is what you call “self sabotage”. It seems very affective.
Yk what I love and think is ridiculous…they think they can just jam this shit up our throats and expect us to like it…but when we hate it…we get called toxic…it’s fucking hilarious
The CEO is saying this because its finally hitting his wallet. IF it get better and fans come back to Disney, i can gurantee it will happen again.
How the comics with limited words and imagery can tell stories 1000x better is a mystery apparently to Marvel Disney. Johnathan Hickman needs to approve every movie going forward
Im done with Disney and like elon musk said about Bob Igor " F him".