This guy senior member of WP? I thought it’s uncle at the coffeeshop.

His Calibre of understanding a question is shocking

@bell-xk5dd

2 жыл бұрын

And he’s being paid $16,000 per month for all that stammering...

@brandenongkp

2 жыл бұрын

@@bell-xk5dd 😯 wow he’s definitely not worth every penny.

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

Quite natural lah facing a panel of inquisitors, lawyers and an officious panel in a grand austere setting. Most will kalang kalbut!

@chengtan6690

2 жыл бұрын

Yes...understandably 1 person facing the panel. He wants to make sure he said the right thing to avoid complications

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

@@chengtan6690 Very evasive. He admitted that his actions were illogical. He was waiting for Judgement Call of Pritam How lame can this be?

Cannot believe Faisal is a senior member of WP and a MOP. Sounded more like a secretary working for WP

@shanisha4211

2 жыл бұрын

😅😅😅

@t.c9081

2 жыл бұрын

I cannot believe he is Singaporean

@ketilenger7319

2 жыл бұрын

Good answer!

@ketilenger7319

2 жыл бұрын

@@t.c9081 it doesn't seem his a Singaporean, but that has nothing to do with anything. He's talking around and around this case. Damn bullshit!

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

Not even fit to be a secretary

Such caliber can collect $16k plus a month. Lucky man 👏

@skysky1977

2 жыл бұрын

He dare to stand out and its a fact that people elected him. if you can do better, why dont you stand out also and see if you will be elected also? :P

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

Get this type and the country go to the longkang

@victorlim6620

2 жыл бұрын

@@skysky1977 don’t reveal your ignorance publicly. You can too if you can sneak into a strong grc bus.

If Singapore is governed by quality leaders like him, we will be gone case. He is an MP, yet seems not very educated, intelligent and competent at all.

@MrLEECHINSOON

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the present Singapore voters prefer an alternative voice then competency, uncorrupted and capable politicians.

@rolandhng9322

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrLEECHINSOON Have to be careful in case it turn out to be noise instead of voice.

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Integrity is essential in key personnel's holding such high positions. Goodness .he doesn't want to answer the questions despite being asked to so many times . He cannot even speak eloquently

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@Seow Ling Wee You are spot on. We would be doomed

Mr Edwin Tong is indeed a very sharp lawyer. Keep it up!

@dfwnick5309

2 жыл бұрын

I really admire Mr Edwin Tong's line of questioning and patience. He is a real pro ..

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

He is very fair and polite. The questions are fair and are needed to establish the case

@diorlovemeii1305

2 жыл бұрын

Susan Tan** Yes!! Mr Edwin is very good in patience & "SOLID"!!! Really did a good 👍 !! Can tell that stupid " ZERO-SENIOR WP DP" no way to" run" keep on lies even worse than RK !! 💣

Please take necessary action on him seriously if found any fault or incorporative or try to lie during this meeting! Really waste of tax payers money here. Pls investigate further on him !

FaizalM did not realise he could not answer "I refuse to answer that'. He had no idea about the objective of a COP hearing. The Chairman told him he could be charged with contempt of court...but it seemed to hv been lost on him.

@colinleongchenghong3991

2 жыл бұрын

What court? The COP should be there to establish facts not opinions.

@cathhl2440

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe he doesn't understand the word 'contempt'.

@jasmineteo9883

2 жыл бұрын

@@cathhl2440 May be he didn't understand the word. Give him the benefit of the doubt. But by claiming he kept quiet and didn't query Singh about why no action for three mths because he trusted Singh completely to do the right thing regarding RKhan's lie, he painted a picture of himself as a free rider in the WP leadership.

@rustropy_gaming

2 жыл бұрын

Serious. Even though Pritam Singh is good at defending himself, he cannot defend others.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasmineteo9883 Well said👍

It's so strange that Faisal refused to answer a simple and fair question!! Sounds as if he had something to hide!

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

I think so too

@magnusthor6259

Жыл бұрын

Do you know what Edwin Tong has in his pockets? Please answer me else you have a lot of things to hide hahaha absolutely stupid

He always evades questions, and never answered to the point.

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

Weak case. Not truthful. Usually will fail and get caught

@seowlingwee4693

2 жыл бұрын

@@pansylim6254 Simple Yes or No also can't answer. He isn't that simple or innocent at all. Just because he think he has a support base he can behave dishonesty and cunningly.

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@seowlingwee4693 totally agree. Yah frequently denying and pushing and shirking their responsibilities

@september9646

2 жыл бұрын

@@seowlingwee4693 A wise person understands the question, and a stupid person answers the question.

@september9646

2 жыл бұрын

A wise person understands the question, and a stupid person answers the question.

Faisal is getting WP into trouble. He have trouble understanding the direct questions. He just push everything to RK that she will ask questions. It is the onus of him as a mentor to find out too.

@vancekang

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t understand how he came to be WP senior Member

@Jack-hy2ki

2 жыл бұрын

@@vancekang cos he is senior? Lol

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

Pity him lah. First time experience - virginal. The questions were direct only when the panel wanted to nail him. Other than that, the questions were often meandering, twisting and turning and repetitive either to confound him or to catch him unwittingly saying something different - in the interest of clarity or unambiguity. Of course, he has to be reminded now and then that he is speaking under oath and it's an offence and punishable for not telling the truth. That will surely put fear into anyone facing the panel. Let's wait for the Singh to appear and see how he perform - surely the panel will leave it as the grand finale - the ultimate nail.

@greenteamax

2 жыл бұрын

How on earth that 2-3 hrs meeting, by just checking the dates?

@Jack-hy2ki

2 жыл бұрын

@@greenteamax very strong point there.

How can this standard get to paid 16k a month to be a MP. My goodness ! His ability to understand English questions is astounding

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

The whole proceeding cost millions - not just 16k! Can use that amount to buy more Covid vaccine! Proceeding should conclude long ago in the quickest possible time! What's happened to Singapore's well-known efficiency?

@woffydo

2 жыл бұрын

So if you can’t speak English you don’t deserve 16k ? Language is a measure of intelligence? You need to look and reflect on your intellect first.

@rolandhng9322

2 жыл бұрын

@@westwoodly Sure is a good question to be posted to WP. If PS /WP having this knowledge in August and decided to take proper action earlier, it would not have come to this.

@gparamaeswary7276

2 жыл бұрын

Cotton comes from sheep. Education minister. How much is he paid???! Cannot even say monitor. Always says morningtor.... Why education minister like this LOR

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolandhng9322 That's a convenient afterthought like "I told you so!" (Sorry me no WP supporter.). What's proper can be interpreted as "improper" by others at different time, different setting!

This mr Faisal really needs an interpreter.

Can't believe our first world government is spend these amount of resources into this issue ~.RK lied and its a fact and she resigned. need to go into she told who and who about her lies and did her party leader advice her correctly and prompt her to speak up the truth in the very first instance? She is an adult, not a kid ~Besides, 7-8 MPs sitting inside the COP for 3 hours+ cost how much taxpayers money? ~

Difficulties in recalling the simplest of events and simple questions - Faisal Manap was working the night off trying to memorise scripted answers and sequence of events. Edwin tong masterfully tore through his scripts. It all concluded with Edwin getting Faisal to agree, that he was behaving illogically as a senior leadership by not stepping up to right a wrong despite being completely aware of it. And that Faisal Manap have had privy knowledge to Khan’s lie from the onset, but he alleged that he did not discuss/comment/advise/communicate on ANYTHING to ANYONE for a good 3+ months, and nothing commented/discussed when he further heard that Khan continued to lie on Oct parliamentary.

@espreedupree

2 жыл бұрын

manap is his father. his name is Faisal

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

You think Edwin and Desmond are twin brothers?

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

The proceeding appears to divert to be just nailing the WP and the leadership. Politically it can be costly either way!

@bell-xk5dd

2 жыл бұрын

@@westwoodly It appears to be so because Faisal is substandard and had trouble following Edwin’s questions. Let’s wait for Sylvia Lim and Pritam Singh. SL will be on equal footing with Edwin, she’s a lawyer too but she tends to rush thru her words and appears impatient at times. It would be interesting to see how PS is going to take questions from the panel, especially from Edwin 😂

@rolandhng9322

2 жыл бұрын

That is the purpose of this COP. To find out why as a MP, having known a fact that the integrity of SPF, for which he is supposed to uphold, is keeping quiet and allowed the allegation to go on for 3 months. Even a commoner who knows a fact to a crime could also blow the whistle, let alone as a MP. Sympathy could be granted to RK for her ordeal but time MUST be set for her to come clean and definitely NOT 3 months which is dragging the integrity of SPF. I do not think anyone from SPF would appreciate this. Try explaining to SPF. This is a gross mis-management of the whole episode.

1. Mr Faisal role as MP - he should be acting as an MP not a social worker. Country’s interests should be first priority (logically and not logically LOL). So betraying RK’s trust is not okay but failing Singapore and SPF is okay? 2. I really wanna ask what’s his role as an VP. Everything also trust PS, dont know anything… Poor judgment. 3. But I feel like he’s still a genuinely nice person :( Damn.

@vancekang

2 жыл бұрын

He should just change his job to social worker not mp... That would suit him more

Oh my.....so painful watching him answering.....more painful for the committee to listen to him stuttering throughout and can't even answer to the simple yes/no q...seriously.....an mp material??

So much time and effort spent on this matter. Is this what is meant by " having to spend more time to fix them when more opposition MPs are voted into Parliament" instead of spending more time on governing, and in this present time, managing the pandemic?

Seems like the man was too stunned to speak during the meeting at Pritam Singh’s house

Just by listening to him,really vomit blood,wondering where Mr Faiser graduated from.....unbelievable.......???????

The way he speaks, can it be trusted like the trust he has on Mr Singh??

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

Mete excuse and he admitted that its illogical but that's him.haha

Shocking level of understanding and respond. Seems like hiding information and answering coordinated response.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

Should be

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

I think he is hiding information. Basically dumb. But he is the vice chairman of WP

@rolandhng9322

2 жыл бұрын

@@brmin7312 If you take it at face value, he is trying so hard to behave like a clown that it is hard not to believe him😅 But the strategy is so obvious that to leave it to all PS to answer in case they contradict each other.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolandhng9322 You are absolutely right. It was so obvious that there was a plan to say that he left it to Pritam. They knew that if he speaks, there will be a lot of contradictions and inconsistencies to address. Very obvious.He also acted blur and like a clown. WP leaders are deceptive.

@cherrycreations1297

2 жыл бұрын

Edwin is asking stupid repetition madly even a wise will get confused.

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Wow, this kind of incompetent senior member of WP is a worry sign! How can he represent the people of his community in Parliament. It's waste of tax payers monies.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed .The hardcore don't mind This will sink Spore if they are allowed to rule Spore

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly precisely. Worst still he doesn't want to answer the questions despite repeatedly asked to do so. Goodness he cannot even speak eloquently stammering in his speech

A layman reader's observation and thoughts : Lawyers or inquisitors seem to be trained to repeat questions or same thing again and again, and yet again, in different words or nuances in quick succession --- in other words to beat about the bush or opportunistic trolling - so that something may turn up eventually or opportunistically! And of course to paraphase or reword what has been said to the inquisitor's satisfaction (you mean, it was not pure white but a little off-white, isn't it?). It can easily confound the witness or interviewee - and most exasperating to the most patient audience watching in the court gallery, or the CoP in this case. The witness can easily get tired or "caught" unwittingly swaying into something different. A shrewd lawyer easily latch on it, and keeping hammering on it. So other than asking "when did you stop beating your wife?" rather than "did you beat your wife?'. It may go something like this : Did you drink the water? (No!). Did you at any time sip the water? (No!) Did you see some liquid in the glass? (Can't remember). Was there any thoughts in your mind to drink the water, any at all ? (can't remember). Was the glass transparent? (Yes). Was the glass clean or dirty? .... An alert and unnervous witness is best to ask questions in return to make the inquisitors just as exasperated : Can you repeat your question? (sure...), Can you speaker louder (or softer, less aggressive?) Can you make your questions easier for understanding? Can you be more direct in your questioning? (sure...), Can you speak in simpler terms or in English (or in Malay, Tamil, Mandarin, etc)... If all things fail, just make a simple request: "I wish to go to the toilet! It's urgent!" : )

@cathhl2440

2 жыл бұрын

An alert and unnervous witness.. Oh!!! Like Pritam! Understood.

@user-ijh7tl5ie3

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 your humor livens up this 3 hrs of endless to and fro.

Fairly obvious that Faisal has difficult time following Desmond's line of questioning. His listening comprehension simply cmi. The weakest link by far. GG, COP.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

Don't say lah.He is Vice Chairman of Workers Party.You will break many hearts .

How can Singaporeans elect people like Mr Fasiah in the government?

@zxzx4015

2 жыл бұрын

and that is precisely the problem with the GRC concept. you have to take the entire package even if u dislike certain elements in the package

@seowlingwee4693

2 жыл бұрын

If we have such brain running our country, what will we become? I shudder at the thought of it. Malaysia???

Can this calibre of people represent Spore? His understanding of questions are so poor. Opposition for the sake of Opposition is not good for Spore. What kind of CEC is that? They didn't even disclose the information of the key witnesses plus the omitted the facts that the senior leaders were informed of the lie by RK.

@sugarly69

2 жыл бұрын

Dont forget he is now going to be advisor of sengkang grc

@brandenongkp

2 жыл бұрын

@@sugarly69 he is definitely incompetent.

@socketheadscrew707

2 жыл бұрын

It’s very disappointing knowing that this is the calibre of the opposition. I really hope they as a whole can do better, especially WP. With this kind of leadership, I have serious doubt on their ability to lead and manage SG. Opposition members’ integrity and character leaves a lot to be desired though.

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

Scary after watching. No accountability. Only trust. " that's me"🤣

@sugarly69

2 жыл бұрын

@@justfair7399 true true, must the reason behind ahtc saga too.

I think he now wants to save himself first and foremost.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

He is a part of the conspiracy

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

U r right . He wants to save himself first . He ,sylvialim and PS unreasonsbly put their own political and self interests above residents' well being. As resident of aljunied grc under his constituency i am experiencing all of his denials ,excuses and not doing the daily essential maintenance as proven in my f.b posts

@peternelson583

2 жыл бұрын

@@pansylim6254 Sorry to hear that Ms. Lim. You just reminded us that for an MP day to day work must come before political survival.

Mr Edwin tong is so very patient

He say he is v concern on her on 8th Aug . But then he did not ask her from 8th Aug to Oct knowing the seriousness of the lies and consequences

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

Strange isn't it?

Apparently he regretted revealing to Mr Tong he had blindly going all out to keep her. Now has to act blur and say Mr Singh has better relationship with her.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

Weak arguments

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely .Acting blur which they often do

Trust is earned when actions meet words.. Honesty is the top uppermost best policy.. Pure white in Integrity..is a MUST for the dignity of our country.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree with you. What is judgement call and he left it to the leader, Pritam. I trust him is the reasoning he gave. And he didn't even bother to ask RK or Pritam. Very strange way of justifying and he agrees that it's illogical. What a nightmare we are witnessing

@chrislee4229

2 жыл бұрын

We are glad that he is not representing us in world stage. Will be embarrassing not able to comprehend questions by other world leaders..

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

You are looking for angels. No matter how clean the rug is, there is always some dust underneath - more or less...!! It's human.

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly precisely.agree integrity is essential in key personnels holding such high positions. Goodness. He is also not going to answer the questions and being reminded many times he is required to do so.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@westwoodly You accept sub standards leaders? Can't even understand questions.

Edwin Tong is damn brilliant in questioning..he simply know what he wants to know. Awesome lawyer..No play play with Shumuggam , Indranee Rajah n Edwin Tong

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't he the one who represented the City Harvest dishonesty (CBT) case, which many people believed the accused got off lightly?

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

@@westwoodly Every lawyer will represent good and bad people. Nothing wrong with it. Even the baddest person deserves highest justice. Subbhas did the same Is he a bad person to defend Adrian Lim the murderer or Took or one eyed dragon? They are lawyers

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

@@coshinc5941 Sure, they always justify that it's their profession, their job. One wonders whether they feel good or proud getting a murderer of a child or a drug trafficker off the hook. I'm just wondering!

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

@@JC-zy4sm End of the day : criminal and lawyers share the spoils?

Can tell Faisal Manap doesn't have much say in WP, he is just pushing everything to everyone else... Pritam la Raeesah la His taiji game so strong

@margaretchong1450

2 жыл бұрын

That must have been their collaborated and rehearsed strategy.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@margaretchong1450 100% corroborated amongst the 3

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@margaretchong1450 definitely there is some collaboration and pre discussions among themselves.

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@margaretchong1450 ur right. Their collaboration among sl and ps are obvious and well plan ahead

He is just going to ask questions non stop until he says WP told her to lie and continue to lie. Nobody is going to eat or rest or go toilet or go home until he he agrees with him. Omg! Such patience and endurance they have. 😵 I would have gone like you have asked me that question already. Please stop asking me the same questions over and over again! I have answered that already!!! Already!!!

@sugarly69

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think you understand how the legal system works.... heard of the LSAT (law school admissions test)? Lawyers are trained in logical reasoning, critical thinking, objective questioning etc... Despite the frustratingly painful to listen to performance of MP faisal, edwin is merely questioning faisal to establishing the plausibilities and possibilities of the surrounding situation behind WP's knowledge of the matter and their subsequent course of action or inaction around RK's lie to determine reasonable culpibility. Its just like how frustrating it is when reading WP supporters' commments online after you get past the blatant fake profiles and fake names, and deciding if the entity on the other end of the keyboard is a troll or is it the brain, reasoning ability, and general knowledge of how govt works, is weak. Im always biased to the latter.

WP MP: Ask WP leadership Faisal Manap: Ask my boss Pritam Singh : Ask my voters WP voters: Ask WP MP

When I see this , I feel so sad. This Faizal is really very evasive and couldn't even answer very simple questions. And he is the vice chairman of WP. Can he represent us in world stage?

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

He definitely cannot represent us

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

@@pansylim6254 Disgraceful. It will sink our Spore

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@rslin4888 totally agree with u. Worsening of my blk as they do not maintain my blk while they are serving and focus on 226 serangoon ave 4 and they have truly been biased against my blk and not giving equal service whereby keeping the floor there clear while black patches at my blk floor tiles uncleared for years and providing hand sanitiser only for 226 residents. In addition ahtc call centre had been evading my calls. Absolutely terrible service and shocking indeed that discrimination against residents happen in SG.As proven in my FB posts .pls look at my posts.

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@rslin4888 They are getting worst and more defiant and have been biased and discriminate against 227 serangoon residents

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

@@pansylim6254 Let's hope the 2 jokers end up in jail. Spore has no place for crooked politicians

The way Manap responded brings shame to WP. His incompetence to speak, reason and understand is appalling. WP shd just dissolve. Waste tax payers money.

@sanjay8854

2 жыл бұрын

He's embarrassing! A benchwarmer at best

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

Illogical explanations. Won't make sense but he insisted that it's him

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Integrity is essential in key personnel's holding such high positions. He does not even want to answer the questions being asked despite being reminded many times. Goodness cannot even speak eloquently

@wilfredtankhoonpheow2605

2 жыл бұрын

@@pansylim6254 he only wants to answer religious affairs

What you think doesn't equate to what I think. Similarly, what you think is a problem may not be a problem to me. Period.

The comments are so far mild, his cognitive appreciation of this process is darn SHALLOW, I would not hesitate to say he also has weak command of English, using phrasal words but unable to apply it conjunctively, so failing his understanding of many of the words, contextually.. It's not our prerogative to say how the WP selects or appoints its leaders, however, it must never be empty of the understanding that it must do due diligence, in establishing some system of criteria for roles and to hold office positions, to assure the constituents it can function and professionally discharge all the responsibilities it purports to serve its constituents. In light of this, its leaders must therefore be more than able to articulate or proposition needs and concerns of its constituents in Parliament, if not only to further the legitimacy of an Opposition presence in Singapore's Parliament. This so-called "wayang" has been coined by many of the informed public, but from the testimonies of other WP members, which now has been proven that it wasn't vindictive, as many people has made it out to be. Edwin's adept questioning has brought out relevancy and some complicity of the WP leadership has in the impugned integrity as a Parliamentarian, which now includes several WP leadership members, and their direct roles in maintaining and ultimately lead to an extended tenure of Raeesah's lie to Parliament. Shamefully, it is now veering into a clownish expose, or should I say moronic "I will not answer that question" show of lack of qualified substance in the WP stable.. Not wayang anymore, the fish is out of water and flapping... Mr Faisal shouldn't be re-instated as a Parliamentarian , enough drama.

This calibre of MP is more befitting of our neighbouring countries. Taxpayers paying him $16k a month.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

You are right

@beejoooh5216

2 жыл бұрын

This ET is making more than $$42K a month. ESM said his new salary of Est $500K a year is not enough for him to take care of wife and in-law. After giving out a $2M a year income. SINGAPORE - Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong has sounded a warning that Cabinet ministers are not paid enough and that down the road, Singapore will be confronted with the problem of getting competent people to join the Government. Speaking at a dialogue with South East District residents last week, he disclosed that MP Edwin Tong, a lawyer, took a 75 per cent pay cut when he became a senior minister of state on July 1. Mr Tong had previously earned more than $2 million a year as a senior counsel and now makes about $500,000, Mr Goh said.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

WP agreed to the salary Go and ask Prtam Singh why he agreed

Co Drivers getting slapped. Turns out they have no driver's licence after all.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

Or fake license 🤣

As a Malay only one word to describe this... HANCUR. Well no need to guess the weak link in this saga. This video clearly shows the reality. Politic aside can I leave Singapore fate to this type of calibre ?

Mr. Faisal should get an interpreter.

@t.c9081

2 жыл бұрын

And speech therapy

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. Have not heard of any mp that need an intepreter

All i can conclude is, he is not bothered, irresponsible and has short term memory problems.... my gosh

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

Painful to know we have such leaders. Vice Chairman of WP. It tells a lot about the party. And worst of all, the 3 seniors didn't even communicate. Very strange

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@rslin4888 well said

Charge him for contempt of parliament. This is a simple question, highly relevant about whether they colluded to cover up telling RK to take it to the grave. The fact he is refusing to cooperate on such a simple matter is a huge red flag.

Edwin Tong is simply fantastic...he could make Faisal so nervous 😂 and stammering all the while 😂

@vancekang

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh he din have to do much … Faisal is just bad at taking questions … never a gd speaker …. Should never have been an elected member

He looks stupider than me yet he is an MP making more than $10000 a month.

Just say la, they have documents with them but I don’t know what documents it’s all about. I only know what documents I bring

@jasmineteo9883

2 жыл бұрын

He should have given that answer and ETong would have moved on to another question.

@rolandhng9322

2 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏Your caliber definitely above MP level or his level is below commoner like us 😅😅😅

@sitiaminahchannel215

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasmineteo9883 yes I’m sure E Tong will ask him again, are you sure, you are not sure what documents they have it with them? And Faisal should answer, yes I am absolutely sure and if you have doubt, you can ask them 😂

@sitiaminahchannel215

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolandhng9322 thank you and I take them as a compliment. Seriously bro! I’m annoyed at that part. The defensive mode should apply appropriately.

@rolandhng9322

2 жыл бұрын

@@sitiaminahchannel215 Frankly speaking, can’t believe his words. He acknowledged it is a serious problem and as one of a senior leader, does not even ask anything over a such a long period of time and only trust PS would solve.

Wah they ask until damm detailed lol, it's like judge asking where the lawyer find it's sources.

If WP doesn't field a different candidate in GE2025 for aljunied GRC, idk what to say eh this guy can't understand basic questions, can't explain his thoughts?

Can we just move forward ? This line of questioning is horrendous. Don't assume and don't suggest things that you think because you don't know anything. Focus on the person that lied and stop the drama.

He looks like a leader from a THIRD WORLD COUNTY!!

@kwangang960

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Edwin Tong ?

This guy is not cooperative. Why is he refusing to be led ?

Clearly , opposition for the sake of opposition and evasiveness of the highest order. Seriously, the WP, and for that matter any credible political party, should exercise QC and judgement in its choice of leadership and not just pick any bloke who is more aggressive and articulate in their opinions. The failure would have dire consequence for the party , and , no less, the Country.

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Ur right to say they oppose for the sake of opposing. Unwise of them indeed

Although the questioning maybe be confusing and leading at times , but I’m more disappointed on Faisal’s level of comprehension . Sorry to say even I understood the questions right away when it is asked the first time , I’m not sure if it is done on purpose to stall or is he really having that much difficulty in understanding the questions. And why does he keep asking ‘ in related to ? ‘ after every question.It’s about the Lie , all questions are about the LIE ! Not the muslim issues or RK’s personal trauma .This was difficult to watch

@cathhl2440

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Indeed. Indeed.

It is really worrying whenever I see members of the parliament having so much difficulty in speaking. Not just Faisal but Don Wee too. But that aside, Faisal agreed on all logical and reasonableness the series of things that should have occurred but didn’t because he trusted Pritam. He has more concern over the comments they received on a parliamentary speech that affected the Muslim community than a lie that affected the police and sexual assault victims. And as a leader, he has trouble seeing the conflict of interest and how not disclosing the leader’s involvement since Aug has a significant impact in the outcome. It’s even more worrying that that his logic is warped.

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

To put witnesses at ease, the panelists shouldn't be seated higher than the witness. That already has a psychological impact on the proceeding as who has a higher authority or greater power. It belittles the witness, like a small animal in a corner ready to be told off or whacked. Imagine going into a classroom, and the teacher stands on a platform looming over her students.

@guoweiliang4010

2 жыл бұрын

D

@adamkhan7102

2 жыл бұрын

@@westwoodly You are right.

1:35:00 were disappointing in WP leadership. Pushing away all the blames...

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

They are good at pushing all blames and denyings

He is insignificant among the three leaders of WP. Just for a show that there is a Malay representative!! He is so nervous!!

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

If honest, no worries. Look and judge

He is trying to save his skin!!

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

The other 2 will be in trouble.

Faisal Manap Vice Chairman $16K pm x12 =$200K pa. He's MP since 2011 till now, 11 years. So far, $200K x 11 years =$2.2 Million!! Does Vice Chairman gets a higher pay? What is the role of a WP Vice Chairman?

He won't answer because if he said Yes, he would be in trouble!!

@leowtaimeng811

2 жыл бұрын

Parties of lies ?

@september9646

2 жыл бұрын

Smart people understand questions, only stupid people answer questions.

What is his resume and how long has he been at the job

Wayang king...good luck to WP Sengkang ..Sink khan. You kave this kind of shady character/s.

Why is there a Miss Khan n a Miss Han? R they the same person? Is it bcos some prefer not to pronounce the “k” which may sound crude or is that the proper way to pronounce?

I really respect Mr Edwin Tong's patience with this man. I've already lost my patience so many times by the 2hrs mark.

@ephesianwomanofgod1411

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Mr Edwin Tong is so patient with him. Integrity is essential in key personnel's holding such high positions. Goodness he doesn't even want to answer the questions despite being asked to do so repeatedly. He cannot even speak eloquently stuttering over his speech

@brendanlim3630

2 жыл бұрын

I find it very painful to watch FM trying to defend worker party. He is so weak and I find him really unsuitable to be a senior member of the Worker Party!

@mikekohsh

2 жыл бұрын

I also , think one punch to this stupied WP guy, cannot be 3 person sitting in 1 table , cannot don't take anything , how big is Pritam dinning table ?

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

Can't even answer questions. Bad optics .Sad sight

1min 35sec onwards you can already tell that he hiding something. The meeting/discussion probably didn't take place. How can someone (vice-chair of a political party) have problems recalling an event that happened as early as 1-2 days ago? Can't believe Singaporeans are paying this guy $15000 a month.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

He was not a truthful witness. He acted blur. He couldn't be having such bad memory to recall events 2 days ago.

Each WP MP gets $16K pm x 12 = $200,000 pa. WP Leader Pritam gets double, $32K pm x12=$400,000 pa.

Edwin Tong surely brilliant in a way he asked question.

I congratulate everyone who has patiently watched both videos lasting 2h 47 h and 3 h 20min, respectively. Even my young daughter feedback to me that she and her friends find the videos from COP entertaining. Haha. How to make Singaporeans esp the young not to be so apathetic? I am going to to the video on PS now! Have fun everyone!

Oh man this is hard to watch

@bell-xk5dd

2 жыл бұрын

After sitting thru the whole thing for 3 hrs, I can finally conclude that Faisal is not a very bright fella 😂 ..he had to have questions repeated many times to him before he could mumble a yes or no....salute to Edwin Tong for his patience and skills in handling the whole session...

@user-qp2cw3po4h

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed indeed indeed....

What is his job code book

Guys, best part is 52:45 - 52:59.

Such a fair panel.....🙄

You know what karma is? Believe it in your own belief. Perception is truth? If so, everything is nothing but the lie. I wondering what's kind of service/role we expect from the mayor/president/etc to further helping the future generation?

RE: HELP ! sorry guys side tracked abit. how to go johor now ? VTL lane is what ar?

Ok, so fair enough that all three of you were so overwhelmed by her admission of having been sexually assaulted in the past, that it didn't occur to any of you to talk to her about her next step with regards to her lie about the anecdote she told in Parliament. Wow.....if all three of you can at the same time, in the presence of each other, be overwhelm beyond your senses by such a revelation, then how can we the people expect any of you guys to be able to lead, to deal with the daily pressures and challenge of managing Singapore, and think on your feet, and speak intellectually on behalf of Singapore when dealing with other world leaders?

@ephesianwomanofgod1411

2 жыл бұрын

That was what I’m saying.

In summary, no logic, we run based on trust😂 Generally, it does feel like he’s not able to answer questions as a form of avoidance theory. It’s obvious he does not have the answers because he only has to stick to one narrative “I trust Pritam” 🙄 . Jeez He’s a senior party leader of WP, putting aside how illogical this is, it’s frustrating listening to this.

@ketilenger7319

2 жыл бұрын

It's very frustrating to listen to him/this. Is he a lawyer?

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

It's a plan by the them .Don't let him speak.Anyway he can't speak and will cause problems to the other 2

It will interesting to hear from Pritam Singh and Sylvia Lim when called as witness (particularly PS since he knew it before Sylvia and Faisal).

this WP vice chairman . dont xia suey . is he qualified to be an MP , sell roti prata lar .

Not answering a simple question is an admission of guilt.

@appl2597

2 жыл бұрын

It's a ridiculous question! How is Mr Faisal supposed to know what are all the documents Sylvia and Pritam brought to the meeting?

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

"First of all, she a young lady... (She is not young!) .... Repeat, she is a young lady'.... She is not young; she is 28 years old, and a mother of two.' 'I don't think we should get into this discussion (by the person who first raise the issue!)' - in other words, except the fact that she is a young lady (the kids in primary and secondary school think she is not young!) Seems there are lot of false questions. Lawyers' favourite "simple questions" or false questions (other than law school Course 101 - when did you beat your wife rather than did you beat your wife!) go something like this : "Did you drink the water?" (No!) "Did you sip the water?' (No!) Was there any odour in the water? (I didn't smell!) Did you think or dream about wanting to sip the water? (No!) "Ok, you remember the white container that holds the liquid is made of glass? (I think so!) Was the glass transparent? (Don't know!) Was the glass dirty or clean (Didn't notice!) "Do you agree that it was not white, but a shade of grey? (Arrrrh!) Can you tell me what the witness's "perspective" is? How can I know her perspective? Can you tell me why the witness lie? (how could I know). Ok, can you think of a good reason why she lie? (I can't think about it !) Ok then, you can think now! (Arrrh! I need to go toilet! It's urgent!)

@kafkacommercialstudios4124

2 жыл бұрын

@@appl2597 In that case he could have just said "I don't know". It makes no sense for him to decline to answer such a question.

@appl2597

2 жыл бұрын

@@kafkacommercialstudios4124 , The chairman should have intervened and stopped that line of questioning. TCJ is not doing his job... This is how you end up with a 5-hour long hearing with a lot of irrelevant questions.

@jj96432

2 жыл бұрын

@@appl2597 the COP already mention so many times "to the best of your knowledge", "in your perspective". The COP is not asking the absolute truth but what he observed. And like the previous comment say, he could have just answered "i dont know" you can simply compare his actions to that of loh peying and nathan. Both of them are younger and less experience in public speaking than faisal, yet they show more maturity and logical thinking than him

Does this man atleast pass his PSLE english! Embarrassment of Singapore Educational Institution! Does he thinks he is entering Malaysian community?

Is the meeting related to his job

Am surprise that he is a Workers Party senior leader,looks more like a P.A to the Party leaders than himself!His English is totally........can't describe for someone his status!Looks like he got some much things to hide,is really hard on Mr.Pritam Singh,all the best to you. Sir!

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

Worst part he was not truthful.

He knew about the lies (first and second time) but didn't do anything... "I trust Pritam" x 1,000,000 "What stopped you (Faisal Manap) from asking Mr Singh?" "Trust!" "Is it the same for other issues that you don't need to clarify and don't need to ask? Just hand everything to Mr. Pritam Singh?" "Yes!" You have your own duties but seems like you are not doing them, Mr. Faisal. This dude just doesn't have much a say in the WP. He is just trying to save himself as much as possible for now. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYZkw5WQntCdf7A.html

@socketheadscrew707

2 жыл бұрын

Says much about his character and ability. He is either too trustful of PS or simply bo chap! Looks like he is pushing the responsibility to PS, either way, it reflects badly on him as a leader and MP.

@rolandhng9322

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe this is the policy of WP “ownself check ownself”😅😅😅

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolandhng9322 100% not acceptable if trial by a judge.It can't be used as a reason. Trust? Haha Don't believe too much

@rolandhng9322

2 жыл бұрын

@@coshinc5941 Even a junior member would be concerned on this development as it would impact WP. He can maintained that he does not discuss and get involve in this matter. He is also pushing everything to PS and he played no part in it.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolandhng9322 Can we buy this? Not likely We have common sense

Do we have any witness in his situation

ET: Did they bring any other documents to the meeting? FM: I do not want to answer that question. ET: (repeats question) FM: (adamantly repeats the same answer) ET: I don't want you to get in trouble with that answer (i.e. saying he refuses to answer). TCJ: (reminds FM that he can be held in contempt for that kind of refusal to answer) FM: (stubbornly) I do not want to answer that question. Facepalm! Poor uncle didn't understand he could say he didn't know but never refuse to answer.

@westwoodly

2 жыл бұрын

He is not trained as a lawyer who could twist and turn with words, and use verbose synonyms and double negatives to confound the witness or stun them. Lawyers are able to wriggle or drill a square peg into a round hole. He will be an underdog in a court tussle - with the judge or chairman constantly reminding you or threatening you about the oath you took. Yes, he could have just said I have no answer to that question.

Instead of making significant contributions to the people and country, WP has been a disgrace and burden.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

Very sad to watch. Illogical reasonings but he said that's him

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Zero service from wp

Faisal was lying! Awaiting to see how PS and SL tell the same lies! Apart from this, I doubt the capability and intelligence of Faisal apart from he learning to tell lies at the instructions from PS and SL.

@chrislee4229

2 жыл бұрын

He need to pray, confess & repent a lot after this session to God.. Quran stated no lying. Don’t fit to represent the Muslim community.

😆Mr MANAP Mr MANAP, you don't need to think that hard for something that took place 1 - 2 days ago where you checked with SL and PS about the sequence of events of your notes. Got caught off guard by Ah Tong's cross-examination that differed from nice guy Desmond.

What his job mission and code book

Edwin Tong is too damn arrogant. His way of questioning is bordering on harassment and threatening.. Faisal Manap is totally being extra cautious when answering people like him as the panel which is made up of majority of the ruling party will definitely be trying to direct their questioning to suit their way of thinking.. not everyone reacts and feels the sane way given the same situation.I totally understand why and how the 3 WP leaders react the way they did.. it’s RK who was sneaky and cunning to catch them by surprise with her sequence of admissions to the party leaders.. she’s a serial liar!!

What is the objective here? Are we using too much resource, time and $$ on this matter? Is there a timeline where the committee can share with the public since they have allowed the public to view and listen to the hearing? We do not want to pay our minister and our MP for any political driven agenda. Neither do we want any misinformed evidence to continue this saga. We have more important things to handle like COVID-19 restrictions, measures, plans to open economy, plans to return to workplace, helping the tourism sector, helping the intellectual disabled under this global pandemic, plans to recover supply chain disruption and many more.

Cartoon la this joker .......wp will close shop bcos of this clown lol

How and where do we begin with Pak Manap? Sigh...Pritam you need better credential people. It's like watching a 7 year old boy being grilled..he is either muttering or stuttering.

Bruh the start though.

So painful to watch.. Where is the team work? How can he simply push all this to Mr Singh and Ms Lim to handle?? He should step down from all the leadership roles.

His hand is shaking. Poor guy. I think he is worried about.. jialat, next term $16K per month boliao ..

2:00:04 that’s y need to stay silent n follow direction of the leader. That’s the team effort n spirit! Simple logic.