Workers' Party's Pritam Singh testifies at Committee of Privileges hearing on Raeesah Khan (Part 4)

Workers' Party (WP) chief and Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh gave oral evidence to the Committee of Privileges (COP) on Dec 10, as it looks into a complaint that former WP member of Parliament Raeesah Khan breached parliamentary privilege. Video recordings of Mr Singh's appearance before the COP were released on Sunday (Dec 12). This is the last of 4 videos. READ: cna.asia/3lWoWcu
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  • @leonthesleepy
    @leonthesleepy2 жыл бұрын

    ET: "dont interrupt me" Also ET: *constantly interrupts others when they are trying to answer his questions*

  • @joonywastaken

    @joonywastaken

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is really a major turn-off. ET is like some prejudiced higher authority trying to get the “school kid” to crumble and admit something he did not do. This whole thing is just so painful to watch. Is this grilling even necessary. Did PS get into politics for this? A man of great talents and principle like Pritam Singh should be in a ministerial role right now strategizing and planning for Singapore’s future and not be grilled like that by a low-level grunt sent by the government to poke the Leader of opposition in such an ungentlemanly way

  • @justanut

    @justanut

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because he's the one sitting up on the bench. It's the correct protocol isn't it? Just like you see Judges bringing lawyers up short, but certainly not the other way around.

  • @patriciachoy5607

    @patriciachoy5607

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@justanut in this case, the judge is the electorate, not the rest of the panel. No matter the findings of the panel, ET's behaviour has actually managed to make the electorate sympathetic towards PS.

  • @andrewloke5950

    @andrewloke5950

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joonywastaken I had an similar question on biasedness, but my post wasnt publish when what I said are all hitting on the nails. i am re-posting here as every SG public deserve to make fair and justified view of this "blown-out-of-proportion" incident, the CoP composition needs to be re-vamped and they shouldnt be the direct inquirer nor influence how the neutral inquirer wants to inquire and form a summary of finding, and neutral inquirer need to be fair and cover all possible outcomes and take the recording at original text and not speculation with own biased opinioned. My original post, re-posted here: "the whole inquiry proceeding is wrong in the 1st place n need to be voided as there is Conflict of Interest (COI) in PAP mp or even govt civil servants inquirying on Opposition members..m surprised a witch hunt style like in anicent China Dynasty jail interrogation drama can exist in modern SG. What if PAP mp was caught telling lies, wud it b right or perceived as without conflicts for CoP to b the inquiry committee of own pple? of cos not!! I wud expect them to step forward at the start to declare that there is possible and perceived Conflict of Interest (COI) and thereby abstain from standing in the inquiry committee and instead effort be made by CoP to find parties totally neutral and without affiliation from/with any camps to sit as inquiry committee:. since the whole inquiry is full of faults..the whole process's credibility is in serious compromised due to COI and need to be voided and all evidence collected r also similarly corrupted (as preceived biased) and need to b voided from being used as evidence.. esp. when gathered through constant speculations from the inquirers..and constant para- and re-phrasing to support a loopsided approach (instead of using the original text n maintaining neutral and just plain inquiry and plain recording without speculations).. which clearly seen as coming from a biased loopsided conclusion at the back of the inquirers' mind.. as constrast to an approach that covers both sides or in fact all/any angles of possible outcomes... the %tage of time spent on the inquiries on the one loopsided approach is proof of the biasedness.. further proof of biasedness is that the same question by one enquirer keeps repeating repeatedly like a broken tape recorder.. even when another earlier enquirier had already cover the witness's reply on the same subject question.. all shame to the "repeating broken tape recorder" inquirer.. also the Chair did not at any time step in to stop the loopsided apporach nor the waste of time on broken recording enquiries. After hearing the reversed side of the version.. to proof that they r not biased.. can we expect the inquirers to push the opposite side for the 2nd version against the 1st version? i.e., the SAME thoroughness tat the 2nd version can also b the truth to challenge the 1st version with SAME rigours.. is and can CoP b seen as really unbiased? unless they give the same amt of time to proof 2nd version is possible.. all SG eyes going take CoP to task on the reverse roti parta if they r indeed unbiased.. their role as PAP mp making it vy vy murky, otherwise!!!

  • @anniequek1842

    @anniequek1842

    2 жыл бұрын

    😭❤️☺️☺️😂☺️😘☺️👍🙂👍☺️

  • @patriciachoy5607
    @patriciachoy56072 жыл бұрын

    Funny how no one believes RK when she cast aspersions on the Police but "everyone" believes RK when she cast aspersions on the WP leadership.

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    Funny how I saw a opposite picture at WP Supporters Page. Believing RK then and claiming that she’s a liar now. Some even doubt that she was sexually assaulted. That is the magic of perspectives.

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nobody believed RK when she casted doubt on the SPF because it was unsubstantiated. Currently, her claims are substantiated with people alongside her testifying for it.

  • @patriciachoy5607

    @patriciachoy5607

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jiaxuangoh This is interesting, because the people alongside her are testifying what they heard from her the WP3 said. Its only value is that it was contemporaneous in time.

  • @justanut

    @justanut

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because it makes no sense for PS to have kept quiet if his underling ignored his instructions to come clean. I'm interested to see if they produce any messages amongst the senior leadership sent after RK continued to lie, in spite of orders. I mean, that would be the usual response right?

  • @patriciachoy5607

    @patriciachoy5607

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@justanut Maybe he "dissociated" himself also as he feels "not his problem". I thought Tan Chuan Jin's line of questioning was more reasonable. The lack of follow-up (assuming the WP3 indeed had not told her to take the lie to the grave) by the senior leadership is incompetent leadership, which is for the electorate to pass judgement on and not the Committee. Of course, all these is pending the evidence which remains to be heard.

  • @rinky_dinky
    @rinky_dinky2 жыл бұрын

    i have followed this whole court proceeding with every person thats up for questioning... i am taking so much notes , next time i argue with my wife i think i will win!

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or spend the next few nights on the couch

  • @smling11

    @smling11

    2 жыл бұрын

    Never try to win an argument with Yr wife. If u r right, pretend to lose, or pretend not to hear.

  • @stevenbalu5956

    @stevenbalu5956

    2 жыл бұрын

    or maybe there is no food or coffee for you,your have to make your own maggie mee!

  • @OldHunters
    @OldHunters2 жыл бұрын

    great mental resiliency from PS against the bombardment of questions.

  • @chester3669
    @chester36692 жыл бұрын

    Pls enlighten me. Raeesah Khan is a 28YO adult and a mother of two. After hearing everything, while I understand that she literally has 0 formal working experience prior to being elected, why does she appear in my mind to be a 16YO kid needing guidance on every single thing and not taking responsibility for her own actions? How did Pritam screen his candidates? Just because her father is some so-called famous person?

  • @nsevv

    @nsevv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you saying that it is like the lee family?

  • @logicrule

    @logicrule

    2 жыл бұрын

    Woke party (WP) needs more woke people like RK...why not?

  • @ConradSNIPER

    @ConradSNIPER

    2 жыл бұрын

    😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @johntwohy8337
    @johntwohy83372 жыл бұрын

    ET's persistent attack on P S revealed another fact which is detrimental to the interests of RK. She is suffering from dissociation.

  • @sallykitkit2725
    @sallykitkit27252 жыл бұрын

    What evidence does the WP has to prosecute her when she confessed to them. The only evidence that Raseah khan is lying is her own words. If WP try to turn her to the police she can say: no I did not say I lied, then what? Remember this one is a liar. She can confessed that she lied, but she can also lied about not confessing that she lied. It is only rationale to tell her, if u really lied, go and confess to the police. Now she is trying to use her lies to take the party down.

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Her lying does not take away the fact that PS failed as a leader of opposition and did not provide guidance to an MP in his party that has failed to do the right thing again and again, over more than two months. The party has to be “taken down” with her because nobody has intervened despite knowing the truth, which alludes to collusion.

  • @adamkhan7102
    @adamkhan71022 жыл бұрын

    Should all MP's go thorough metal health assessment before swearing in as MP?

  • @samsonnodelilah5459

    @samsonnodelilah5459

    2 жыл бұрын

    They all should...we had MPs whos an alchoholic...womaniser and even fetishes in wearing ladies undies....all from PAP btw😂😂😂

  • @Lee-wj4lb
    @Lee-wj4lb2 жыл бұрын

    ET is trying all ways to corner PS

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's his job as an investigator. The COP must assess RK's culpability

  • @lovesecret0119

    @lovesecret0119

    2 жыл бұрын

    And failed, he ended up cornering himself to an awkward silence of mouse wheel scrolling and clicking 28:33

  • @OkOk-vu7ch
    @OkOk-vu7ch2 жыл бұрын

    The panel should consist of non PAP members, especially the chairman.

  • @emaansalle3111

    @emaansalle3111

    2 жыл бұрын

    Precisely

  • @jimw8615

    @jimw8615

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed absolutely. Opposing party interrogating the other party. Best chance of his life. Unheard of

  • @studsme

    @studsme

    2 жыл бұрын

    WP Dennis Tan is in the COP panel

  • @fr0sty1983

    @fr0sty1983

    2 жыл бұрын

    Would we be getting a COP for our MTF?

  • @adamkhan7102

    @adamkhan7102

    2 жыл бұрын

    My opinion .The Chairman should not be from neither PAP or WP.

  • @cosmicripple9523
    @cosmicripple95232 жыл бұрын

    Edwin totally failed at abusing his authority! We need more leaders like Pritam Singh!

  • @cosmicripple9523

    @cosmicripple9523

    2 жыл бұрын

    Someone unwilling to be bullied by abusers

  • @adamkhan7102
    @adamkhan71022 жыл бұрын

    Thank Mr Dennis Tan who asked relevant questions fairly.

  • @tan83ful

    @tan83ful

    7 ай бұрын

    No choice because Pitram is his boss at Workers Party, you think he dare to questions him much…

  • @user-qp2cw3po4h
    @user-qp2cw3po4h2 жыл бұрын

    I bet RK is eating popcorn watching this..

  • @samsonnodelilah5459

    @samsonnodelilah5459

    2 жыл бұрын

    With her imaginary polis freind

  • @dkjkutube
    @dkjkutube2 жыл бұрын

    Based on Mr Faisal and PS evidence in COP, it is clear at least in early August in PS House, nobody said to take the lie to the grave. Due to sensitivity of issue and Raeesha state of mind, this lie would be discussed and settle later. Raeesha take it that it is for her to continue lying. Then started the mother of another big lie which in her own words " Hey guys.... take this to the grave " Who would be so stupid to articulate this other than Raeesha herself... haha... check mate.

  • @ethanang3527

    @ethanang3527

    2 жыл бұрын

    “For forty days and forty nights, the law was on her side, but who can stand her with her demand, her schemes and plans” ~ Taken from Billie Jean by Michael Jackson.

  • @ethanang3527

    @ethanang3527

    2 жыл бұрын

    *when I’m demand, her schemes and plans.

  • @jason3074
    @jason30742 жыл бұрын

    How come lawyers can anyhow put up allegations and keep wanting ppl to answer the same questions repeatedly. I don't think I can survive a courtroom with these educated bullies. I will probably tell that fellow 'u got guts, come down and fight'

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which is why you’re not the speaker

  • @fr0sty1983

    @fr0sty1983

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's why during you have judges that is impartial.

  • @rinky_dinky

    @rinky_dinky

    2 жыл бұрын

    hahahah same ... i will be " OI BUEY SONG YOU COME DOWN FIGHT DONT TALK SO MUCH BIRD WORD"

  • @carolchua475

    @carolchua475

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ha, ha, I ha. I ploughed through this as part of my responsibility as a voter. Thankfully the proceedings are absorbing.

  • @larrychan7039
    @larrychan70392 жыл бұрын

    ET is acting like Khan's defense lawyer and a prosecuting lawyer when it comes to PS, Sylvia and Faisal. The composition of this panel is not independent at all.

  • @orogpd4198
    @orogpd41982 жыл бұрын

    the KEY word i take away from this session: RELEVANT or NOT-RELEVANT? it is a question...

  • @takanna
    @takanna2 жыл бұрын

    ET has been trying to force words (stealthily or blatantly) into the mouths of previous interviewees like Manap and im glad PS is finally NOT allowing him to do that. ET simply wants his interviewee to AGREE with him and he cannot tolerate his interviewee disagreeing with him. if so whats the point of this interview?? Just look at the first 4 mins of the video.

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you believe Faizul was so overwhelmed together with SL and PS on 3rd Oct that they forgot to talk about the lie ?

  • @garyang5205
    @garyang52052 жыл бұрын

    Why COP didn't bring Vivian for such interrogation?

  • @ShouldBeKnown

    @ShouldBeKnown

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's a debater, but not a lawyer. ET was a senior counsel.

  • @Tommashelbyeee

    @Tommashelbyeee

    2 жыл бұрын

    Simple answer. Vivian is a PAP member and the COP consists of PAP members. But Pritam and the rest are oppositions and PAP lost Aljunied and sengkang GRC and PAP are trying to find reasons to discredit WP now so that people vote for PAP in the future. It’s call cheap politics.

  • @alexoh6110
    @alexoh61102 жыл бұрын

    Since you “forced” her to tell you the truth, why didn’t you then force her to tell the truth to all? Not mitigating factor? If you did, she wouldn’t have lied 3 times. I’m so disgusted I felt like puking, literally.

  • @ephesianwomanofgod1411

    @ephesianwomanofgod1411

    2 жыл бұрын

    Precisely

  • @skydragon23101979

    @skydragon23101979

    2 жыл бұрын

    Simple the first time I force her is to let her know the seriousness. Not forcing her immediately after is to give her a chance to clear the air on her own. Because if every time I have to force her then what’s the point of her being MP? At the end she was forced to tell the truth and she had to resign.

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@skydragon23101979 Then don’t emphasise now that she was forced to tell the truth the first time and hence not mitigating factor. Are you her leader or not? What’s the point of having you as a leader then?

  • @skydragon23101979

    @skydragon23101979

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexoh6110 Leader as the name says is to lead and guide not a dictator. You are not her parent and she is full grown adult. You already told her it’s important to tell the truth. She chose not to.

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@skydragon23101979 No worries. I’m just expressing my feelings here. Other things are not relevant to me. Feel free to express your feelings too. There’s never ending arguments here. PS used his discretion to make decisions which I’m totally fine with. But I’m not cool when he throws her under the bus. WP Supporters will be quick to defend him anyway and will still vote for them next GE. But I’m just disgusted by such a leader.

  • @mytortisearedogsone3349
    @mytortisearedogsone33492 жыл бұрын

    In front of COP, PS and Rk are fighting for survival. Duun judge too early. People not telling him doesn't mean he is aware

  • @lindaheng7494
    @lindaheng74942 жыл бұрын

    Edwin Tong is so rude. When he talks, he doesn't allow anyone to cross talk or interrupt him. But when pritam is talking, he keeps interrupting. Talks down people's throat with his interpretations.

  • @FunYouLeh

    @FunYouLeh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pritam was not answering the question, surely you will be interrupted.. plus, Edwin supposed to ask questions.

  • @ezekielk.3629

    @ezekielk.3629

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FunYouLeh your suppose to give both parties ample space to present your case if the chairman did not cut i dont see why Edwin thong must keep on cutting him. Such Arrogance can only be seen in superior race talking down to lower ranking people and its far too common in public sector work

  • @chengtan6690

    @chengtan6690

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is arrogance.. Mr Tong can interrupt but not allow the person giving evidence to interrupt n clarify. The person giving evidence has to ask for permission to clarify.

  • @commieskungflu1635

    @commieskungflu1635

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FunYouLeh Where is your proof that Pritam did not answer his irrelevant and dumb questions? Show us the evidence. Present us the time-stamps.

  • @Ram-ni6em

    @Ram-ni6em

    2 жыл бұрын

    PAP guys are all rude and arrogant for years.

  • @adamkhan7102
    @adamkhan71022 жыл бұрын

    Who was the first using this phrase "to take the lie to the grave' ?

  • @quad6752
    @quad67522 жыл бұрын

    If a lie was committed in Parliament than RK should seek Parliament advise whether should she gave report as SPF has requested .

  • @timothywoo7994
    @timothywoo79942 жыл бұрын

    So many panel members on the COP but all I see is the ping pong of words between ET and PS for hours. So why are the rest there?...Extras? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @patriciachoy5607
    @patriciachoy56072 жыл бұрын

    Edwin Tong is here to inquire or give evidence....?

  • @OkOk-vu7ch
    @OkOk-vu7ch2 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like not taking action against a lie is a bigger sin than the lie itself.

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s sound like when I tell you I steal and you report to the police, then I sue you that you are trying to flame me and you will accept.

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like that because both are equal severity of crimes. Colluding, helping a person along a lie in parliament is extremely serious especially because the lie involved sowing discord in a government body of the SPF. It sounds like not taking action against a lie is a bigger sin because Mr Singh is the leader of the opposition, and should be held to a different caliber than a mere greenhorn MP like Miss Khan.

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jiaxuangoh That’s why so much sexual assault victims had suicide , turn crazy or do not dare to come out due to such person like you!

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@philz3ro823 Not sure what that has got to do with my comment above, but ok.

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Ops Blac Yes, she’s an adult. Yes, she’s an MP who has taken an oath. But is she under WP? Yes. Is she under Mr Singh’s jurisdiction? Yes? Does she represent WP as an MP, therefore her actions directly correlate with WP? Yes. It is the same as when a PAP MP screws up, people blame PM Lee because rightfully they are under his jurisdiction. Now it isn’t about whether RK has lied, or whether PS has lied. It’s about the lack of accountability from PS as the LO, even when his member has repeatedly proven that she is incapable of telling the truth after months of time given to her. These months of time has caused SPF officers to spend wasted time and resources, of course it has to be taken seriously, irregardless if she has resigned or not. Do you really think that Mr Singh could NOT do anything as the LO? And could only let her decide since she’s an adult? Btw, RK only admitted to lying. However her account has opened up new things which require to be explained, which is that none of the leaders stepped in to intervene despite knowing her lie and also apparently asking her to continue lying unless she is probed. Therefore the case is definitely not closed and not just a political thing.

  • @shahkhirsajahan5472
    @shahkhirsajahan54722 жыл бұрын

    Claimed to have no agenda when ET was confrontational throughout. This might be more than about RS. Could be a set up to make the whole of WP to collapse. ET is no fight for PS though.

  • @josephsylee

    @josephsylee

    2 жыл бұрын

    ET prepared fully, yet he’s no fight for PS who is evidently more confident, quick, and eloquent in his answers, even he’s looking at the documents for the first time. I doubt ET is able to cope if the role is reversed.

  • @jpphua602
    @jpphua6022 жыл бұрын

    In order to commit a crime there must be a motive to benefit oneself. How does encouraging Ms khan to lie benefit the WP? So, to all the "smart" people out there... what's the motive?

  • @skyknight1983
    @skyknight19832 жыл бұрын

    Best line: PS:you dont test evidence with hypothesis. ET:we do.i think we do. He really needs to do his homework

  • @nsevv

    @nsevv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Edwin Tong is a clown.

  • @skyknight1983

    @skyknight1983

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nsevv agree with you on that.if he is the best PAP has got,we are doomed.he doesnt even know the rules he is enforcing.his temper gets the best of him.sad that he is an MP.

  • @da0kia

    @da0kia

    2 жыл бұрын

    How ah, like that also senior counsel...

  • @mikailkhan5454
    @mikailkhan54542 жыл бұрын

    Witch Hunts are never about Witches

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    There are no angels in WP. Look at Faizul. My gosh. They met on 3rd Oct with RK. Didn't tell her not to lie again on 4th Oct. Overwhelmed? Haha..my goodness

  • @melindataylor5633
    @melindataylor56332 жыл бұрын

    Although she lied I think instead of spending so much time arguing for so many hours tearing each other down they should work with Australia interpol and catch the perpetrator that violated her . And not to press each other for their own personal gains . Ultimately we are here on earth only for a short while . Let’s help each other instead

  • @frostbitepokin9520

    @frostbitepokin9520

    2 жыл бұрын

    What perpetrator?

  • @melindataylor5633

    @melindataylor5633

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@frostbitepokin9520 catch the one who cause her so much distress . He needs to be punished

  • @sayitasitis6183
    @sayitasitis61832 жыл бұрын

    Agree with all the previous comments. The Public will be disgusted at such a blatant attempt to "fix" the WP and its leadership. PAP is lucky that elections is not next month.

  • @adamkhan7102
    @adamkhan71022 жыл бұрын

    If RK was not clear what direction and actions she should have to take, she should have clarify on the spot when she met the party leadership.

  • @kimjunhong1314
    @kimjunhong13142 жыл бұрын

    27:15 PS leaves Mr Tong speechless

  • @yipeyaya

    @yipeyaya

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, he’s never speechless. He will say Mr Singh saying things that’s not germane, or back-paddling 😂 ET kept rephrasing the questions to see whether can catch any loop holes.

  • @fr0sty1983

    @fr0sty1983

    2 жыл бұрын

    Should print out a t shirt with the work oh ok and his picture on it.

  • @zandermccoll
    @zandermccoll2 жыл бұрын

    1:07:39 that serious "lol" in unison

  • @gt5087
    @gt50872 жыл бұрын

    I now fully understand why LKY restructured the jury system.. and it’s really the right choice..

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, laws should not be handled by emotion.

  • @nsevv

    @nsevv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup this edwin tong need to stop interrupting Pritam. Good that LKY restructured.

  • @Lee-wj4lb
    @Lee-wj4lb2 жыл бұрын

    ET don’t interrupt

  • @jpphua602
    @jpphua6022 жыл бұрын

    Hello. Mr chairman and Edwin Tong. If you want to assume, the two of you can go to any nearby kopitiam to assume all you want. Why subject all Singaporeans to 9 straight hours of torture. This is abuse of parliamentary privilege. Indranee, please do your job.

  • @mytortisearedogsone3349
    @mytortisearedogsone33492 жыл бұрын

    Why benefit of doubt given to rk and not PS?

  • @takanna

    @takanna

    2 жыл бұрын

    agreed. clearly PAP trying to take down PS using RK as the bullet. this is the highest level of combat..dont even need to sacrifice a single ammunition. RK is really the single weakest link of the party...was, rather.

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    PS was the boss PS said he left it to her to own up. Why visit her on 3rd Oct?

  • @jasonong5562

    @jasonong5562

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cause one is a MP and one is the WP leader as well as Opposition leader. Leader has much more accountability. He has not live up to it. Now the MP shared things that made him look bad he said she mentally maybe unsound. Serously?

  • @adamkhan7102
    @adamkhan71022 жыл бұрын

    Is Mr Edwin Tong is a member of Fact finding committee or else?

  • @cayotelives
    @cayotelives2 жыл бұрын

    ET is like a possessive wife putting words and speculations into her husband. This is a joke by professional standards

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not true. You don't understand law.All investigators must establish the truth. In this case, it's very normal for prosecutor to ask such questions

  • @cayotelives

    @cayotelives

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@coshinc5941 did he get anywhere ?

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cayotelives He established a lot on PS and put thoese findings on record. You can see the COP findings later. Despite his slippery , untruths usually can't escape. Edwin 's job was less stressful because he was looking for the truth. PS, tougher because he was trying to hide the truth Like all things, the righteous will triumph.

  • @jermaineer

    @jermaineer

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with Cayote Lives. This is not a court trial, this is about fact finding and ET's line of questioning is a joke.

  • @jpphua602
    @jpphua6022 жыл бұрын

    For 3 months the PAP did not ask Pritam in parliament if Ms Khan lied. That would have forced Pritam to tell the truth and Ms Khan would have resigned much earlier. They didn't do that only because they wanted to drag this out as long as possible to smear the WP. This could have ended much sooner had the PAP wanted to. They did not.

  • @jpphua602
    @jpphua6022 жыл бұрын

    When you go on a fishing expedition and you cannot catch any fish, you must know when it's time to go home.

  • @lookforsam

    @lookforsam

    2 жыл бұрын

    ET should go home, by the count, many from his party too...

  • @gparamaeswary7276
    @gparamaeswary72762 жыл бұрын

    Now Indranee and Tong must fight who going to be next Law minister.

  • @jpphua602
    @jpphua6022 жыл бұрын

    What should happen next is obvious. Subject Ms Khan to a psychological examination. Recall her back to substantiate her "take the matter to the grave" statement as that's disputed by all 3 of the WP leadership. Anything less will cast the PAP in a bad light.

  • @jeremychan609
    @jeremychan6092 жыл бұрын

    Mr Edwin Tong, and chairman. PS has mentioned repeatedly that the purpose of the DP was to assess the conduct of RK repeatedly lying - that conduct - despite having full knowledge that what she said was a lie. If, however, they were to disclose to the other WP members in the CEC that they had knowledge of the lie, wouldn't it bring about biaseness of their judgement on the matter of RK's conduct and her actions and dilute the focus of the DP proceedings? We should put this question to you and the members of the COP too. It seems strange that you spend so many more man-hours on Pritam Singh and the rest of the 2 other leaders but you seem to have put in disproportionately less hours to question the main subject of Indranee Rajah's complaint - who is Raeesah Khan herself.

  • @adamkhan7102
    @adamkhan71022 жыл бұрын

    Was Mr Edwin Tong expecting an MP to be like a kid to be guided by Party Senior Leadership even for a common sense .An MP should ensure when prepare his/her own speech which should contain only truth?What RK did was really unbecoming of an MP.

  • @shahkhirsajahan5472
    @shahkhirsajahan54722 жыл бұрын

    Last few minutes of the subtitles is hilarious.

  • @leowtaimeng811
    @leowtaimeng8112 жыл бұрын

    Edwin Tong so very focus n staying cool with Pritam Singh attitude. The more he show resent he more quilty of trying to hide the truth to the grave sad really

  • @pcaristotle
    @pcaristotle2 жыл бұрын

    It’s a disgrace that PAP is wasting taxpayers $$$$ to fix the opposition instead of working on the problems facing the country.

  • @hg1288

    @hg1288

    2 жыл бұрын

    How making an Honest Parliament is a waste of public money??? Have you heard of The Big Lie in US where Trump claims Election Fraud and generate an Insurrection (throwing out an legitimate govt - A Coup)? Ya, if you keep the lie, that's what you get.

  • @chongyian
    @chongyian2 жыл бұрын

    Please don't interrupt

  • @sivarangill4899
    @sivarangill48992 жыл бұрын

    Why is a senior minister of the opposition party grilling PS and also the chairman of this party is also from the opposition party of PS how can this be fair I think it is an independent body that should be conducting this inquiry this is not a democratic way of doing things.This would never have been allowed in the UK just imagine PM Boris Johnson been grilled by the opposition party senior MP never in a million years.

  • @arcencielc2065
    @arcencielc20652 жыл бұрын

    Not relevant to the public/CEC, no harm to Police, blah blah blah. These have definitely changed my impression of PS. One word to sum it up: dishonest!

  • @fattylim78
    @fattylim782 жыл бұрын

    Bravo to Mr Dennis Tan..He is the only one that still following the whole meeting..clap clap clap

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for supporting Dennis Tan!

  • @alvinchong2278
    @alvinchong22782 жыл бұрын

    When PAP question, its called bullying. When WP question, its called transparency. Eh. Don't double standard leh. We need to know the truth.

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watch all video before you comments please or maybe please read what is Illusory Truth Effect

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is a possible mental disorder occur here, I don’t want to speculate but I consider that as a possibility

  • @pansylim6254

    @pansylim6254

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right on. We need to know the truth. When pap question they claim govt bullying but do they realise that they are also bullying cheating on residents and ahtc saga whereby millions were misapropriated. So anything the wp has done wrong it will be seemed small issue and they are always immediately target and kick up a big issue at govt as it is very obvious.

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pansylim6254 Are you trying to come out with allegation yet again? The high court judges had already reprimanded the Lawyers who are creating the saga by all means, the worker Party did nothing wrong there, it’s just so shameful that Singaporeans do not understand facts while trying to act clever by shaming their own selves

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pansylim6254 CPG don’t even have the balls to come and be a witness and here you are trying to mislead everyone? How shameful are you?

  • @davidn.g.486
    @davidn.g.4862 жыл бұрын

    Tag-team tactics bombardment, confrontational with cleverly crafted words and lines & methods of questioning to try and “forced” and coerced an response and reply in a way expected and accepted and forthcoming ET wants…frustrated and frustrating 🤪🤪🤪😜😜😜

  • @samabieze6850
    @samabieze68502 жыл бұрын

    Mr Edwin Tong please question your colleagues the same way you questioned PS. They have no gut to respond to me and they did not take action when I reported to them that a police officer had acted unprofessionally, lied and gave false testimony in Court.

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    His colleagues did not commit any crime.WP member did. And the leadership are involved

  • @phanchoohin1554
    @phanchoohin15542 жыл бұрын

    Someone please ask ET not to interrupt

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    He is the speaker. The person being interrogated should be the one who complies and not interrupt. The speaker has every right to intervene and interrupt when the interrogated takes things out of context or is mincing his words.

  • @laughingcat74
    @laughingcat742 жыл бұрын

    How can it be PT message to RK not clear enough? RK is not a child. She is a MP and also a lawyer, she should know if there is a lie, it needs to be corrected without being told! Afterall what is the oath is about?

  • @christinechew773
    @christinechew7732 жыл бұрын

    如果辣玉沙自己不肯在国会承认她撒谎,毕丹星就冒然通知党员,设立纪律委员会!虽然她告知毕丹星她撒谎,她也可以对党员说我没有撒谎!那毕丹星就有理说不清了!

  • @philipchai9107
    @philipchai91072 жыл бұрын

    Could this be "an arrow in a quiver" stance by the power that be? Leading to maintaining the narrative (keeping the lie quiet and hoping for the best) and 'take it to the grave' (if it went unnoticed), knowing that RK will ultimately be held accountable for the lie whatever the outcome may be.

  • @ethanang3527
    @ethanang35272 жыл бұрын

    “Be careful what you do, cause the lie become the truth” ~ Billie Jean by Michael Jackson.

  • @yipeyaya

    @yipeyaya

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yoooo fellow SG MJ Fan!!! I’m a huge MJ fan too!! 😂😂

  • @phoebehailey4783
    @phoebehailey47832 жыл бұрын

    One party finally get a chance to hammer hard on their opposition …now does RK lie cause a live or what?? They just die die wanna bite hard on wp.. that’s v obvious.

  • @giaphua
    @giaphua2 жыл бұрын

    Overall this episode is breeding a positive outcome. WP gets rid of a bad apple. WP wins votes for the next election.

  • @laykhimoh3011

    @laykhimoh3011

    2 жыл бұрын

    😀😀

  • @hg1288

    @hg1288

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry NOT A bad apple. There is a basket of bad apples need to get rid of, starting with The Dear Leader...hahahahaaaaa

  • @ultralight5550
    @ultralight55502 жыл бұрын

    I really like how pritam singh responds to ET very well

  • @kennethho8512
    @kennethho85122 жыл бұрын

    ET and PS are excellent lawyers. Watching this puts my perspective of "Suits" to shame. On a side note, I think PS has shot his own foot for applying for the DP and not coming clean with the CEC. PS: "I don't think it is relevant." ET & Chairman: "You don't think that it is relevant to inform the CEC that the party leadership knew about the lie?" PS: "It did not cross my mind" Me at home: hmmmmmmmmmm

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why form a DP without informing that the 3 knew it was a lie since 8 Aug? Non disclosure. How could CEC vote without full facts? Much to be desired from them

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Ops Blac Suhbas defended Ah Took, Adrian Lim, One eyed Dragons , the worst murderers. Did these make him a bad person? Ravi defended drug traffickers. A lawyer is supposed to defend .

  • @carolchua475

    @carolchua475

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Ops Blac Everyone is entitled to due process. Why fault a lawyer for doing his job?

  • @pansylim6254

    @pansylim6254

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree that he has not come clean and why delay for 3 mths right

  • @lindaheng7494
    @lindaheng74942 жыл бұрын

    Mr Tong keeps saying, you don't interrupt me. You don't interrupt me. Pritam should just be a broken record and give him back the same treatment. You don't interrupt me when I am talking! You don't interrupt me when I am talking! All these videos can go on and on forever. Really good bedtime videos to put anyone to sleep because they make you so dizzy.

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Edwin Tong is the speaker. Pritam Singh is the person being interrogated. Of course PS should not interrupt him, whereas ET can interrupt him if PS is not being forward in his answers.

  • @fr0sty1983

    @fr0sty1983

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jiaxuangoh So Edwin is the judge and the prosecutor? No conflict of interest what so ever.

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fr0sty1983 he’s not the judge. The committee is the judge. Edwin’s job is to ask the questions as planned, and Pritam’s job is to answer the questions as it is without paraphrasing or drawing inconclusive conclusions that will not aid the committee.

  • @fr0sty1983

    @fr0sty1983

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jiaxuangoh Why Edwin tong draw so many conclusion leading Pritam Singh and no one see that as a fault?

  • @jiaxuangoh

    @jiaxuangoh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fr0sty1983 Edwin drew those conclusions based on RK allegations. There are evidences and reliable witnesses from the very same WP substantiating that. Of course Edwin will have to ask the questions to PS based on the conclusions from the previous hearing. What do you perceive him to do instead? If in court you’re pressed for charges about murder, would the judge or committee ask you questions lightly?

  • @danho9044
    @danho90442 жыл бұрын

    Bravo to PS, ET is so good at what he does and you have survived it.

  • @josephsylee

    @josephsylee

    2 жыл бұрын

    Easier to ask questions. PS is obviously an extremely brilliant lawyer.

  • @hg1288
    @hg12882 жыл бұрын

    The whole COP enquiry has come to two crucial dates: 4 oct and 1 sept (two occasions where RK spoke in Parliament). Either 4 oct or 1 sep, once RK speak the truth, it will be a crisis situation to WP yet curiously, only on 1 sept RK confession speech did WP made herculean preparation while on 4 oct supposedly RK confession speech, nothing done prior. Pritam justified that since 4 oct may or may not be asked about the LIE (by Parliament), so nothing need to prepare (is Pritam playing dice with his party’s reputation?). When Malaysia threaten Singapore that the Water Tap may be closed, Did Singapore bet that since it is just a threat so no need to do anything? NO. Founder Lee Kuan Yew did all he could to ensure alternative Water Taps are available. This is the kind of Leader political party must have. Period.

  • @jpphua602

    @jpphua602

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bad things happen under every leadership. Teh Cheang Wan embezzled $1 million and committed suicide under LKY. Nobody pinned the blame on LKY. How does it benefit Pritam and the WP for her to continue the lie? They wanted as much as the PAP for to truth to come out. That's why they are providing evidence in this COP.

  • @ConradSNIPER
    @ConradSNIPER2 жыл бұрын

    At some points & many instances, Edwin Tong had adopted a wrong stance! As a member of the C.O.P, E.T cannot maintain his Gentleman-ness when your subject is deliberating & discharging verbal-assault.

  • @dinobabes
    @dinobabes2 жыл бұрын

    31:00 I’m worried of pressing that send button in my Whatsapp chat now without reading in over a hundred times.

  • @somekaki8893
    @somekaki88932 жыл бұрын

    Just how many ways or approaches is the Committee going to rephrase something that only they believe in

  • @alexoh6110
    @alexoh61102 жыл бұрын

    Hypocrite. Asked for honesty from others but his honesty is not relevant. However, WP supporters will still think he is accountable.

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you watch the full video?

  • @whatthefitt

    @whatthefitt

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re so naive and clueless Alex Oh 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you watch the video, then PS is lying. Why didn't they do something on 3rd Aug? All overwhelmed by the Sexuak assault story ? You buy this? Very dishonest

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@whatthefitt You are naive and clueless. It was so obvious

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@philz3ro823 Yes, and I saw a Leader of Opposition who look “Responsibility and Ownership of the whole issue”. Well done PS!

  • @r.a.h.175
    @r.a.h.1752 жыл бұрын

    Elon Musk is making headway with his rockets to Mars and Pi phone and Tesla. Here we are arguing in the tiniest minutest details over a “lie” to show and display to the world what lofty high discipline is all about and extraordinarily meticulous we are and what micro honesty is all about using a range of the “highly qualified” taken away from their work, from whatever they should be meaningfully doing, spending huge public monies, spending long hours and days to pin down a “lie” and impress upon the world how extraordinary we are. Bravo! For Heaven’s sake, rebuke her, censure her, by all means! Put up a full page of reprimands! At this rate, that will be enough punishment to last her 3 lifetimes. Let’s get real and move on please!

  • @constantine92

    @constantine92

    2 жыл бұрын

    i think it serves as a reminder that it would be very very highly super duper mafan to even consider lying in parliament.

  • @garychew23
    @garychew23 Жыл бұрын

    After many months and watching this piece of shitty session, I still feel disgusted at how a political party can shamelessly used a fake front to meddle with another politcal party's affairs, just because they are the ruling party. This is as though telling the singapore ppl that they are unable to differentiate what is right or wrong and the ruling party are the only ones who can do so. If WP has not been honest, the singapore ppl should be allowed to decide themselves if they still want vote for them or not. We dun need a self righteous party to come in and tell us what is right or wrong when as a ruling party, they are full of flaws and shortcomings as any political parties in the world.

  • @winwinwin282828
    @winwinwin2828282 жыл бұрын

    sees how many times ET says "I THINK" ....

  • @lotusgohgh

    @lotusgohgh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lately noticed ..ET Face wrinkles & white hairs..why¿?

  • @pukubee683
    @pukubee6832 жыл бұрын

    Worker party love to “champion” TRANSPARENCY, HONESTY AND INTEGRITY. Their supporters Champions telling whole Singapore Worker will be transparent with the government. Truth be told, worker party is not fit to be opposing government. Hahahaha

  • @user-ijh7tl5ie3
    @user-ijh7tl5ie310 ай бұрын

    36:07 Watching COP Chairman TCJ now in sept 2023, I am glad that he is no longer House Speaker, we all know he resigned due to the hot mike and affair with another PAP MP. As a Speaker, he was notoriously unfair and biased towards opposition MPs, how can proper debate go on?

  • @user-ijh7tl5ie3
    @user-ijh7tl5ie310 ай бұрын

    Because at the first meeting at PS home in early Aug, when PS, SL & FM tried to confront RK abt lying in parliament, they were taken aback when RK told them she lied bcos she was raped at 18yo. seeing that she was crying non stop, distraught and v emotional, the 3 of them did not press her, they gave her a lot of time and space, advised her to tell her family. They did what any decent person would do, be very careful not to provoke her, and they protected her privacy by not go around telling others. RK took advantage of their compassion and gentle handling, even to tell a new lies that they told her ‘to take it to the grave’. Cannot believe that PS (lawyer), & SL (lawyer & ex police woman), would be so stupid to WANT her to cover up the lie knowing that there are CCTVs and so many witnesses at the police station, and the serious consequences of lying in parliament.

  • @scbchong6964
    @scbchong69642 жыл бұрын

    Very disappointed with Pritam flip flopping and abdicating responsibility as a WP Chief. It shows that if WP ever come into power, there are no consequences or penalties for irresponsible, dishonest behaviour. Cronyism will be rife under them. Pritam really got no backbone and no leadership qualities.

  • @chinsengsim
    @chinsengsim2 жыл бұрын

    All in WP are liar

  • @ooklaus5585
    @ooklaus55852 жыл бұрын

    the WP really got the wrong member, this RK really a spoiled brat, how can you lie and bring shame to our police force and bear no consequence, her mother is more amazing, "can the parliament not take this too seriously"... We are really lucky her father is not president, imagine, what it will become if it is.... I feel PS is being too nice after 8 Aug, he should be more direct and make her to tell truth, as he need to protect the party not protecting her as this matter will never be let loose and since she has a Councilor to handle her welfare.... now this RK took advantage and really damage the WP's reputation.... and I really cannot believe/ trust what she says anymore... she is like lying machine, u can do that in your family, but you cannot do that in public, the people are not stupid.....

  • @yivunqp963

    @yivunqp963

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you say RK's mother said for the Parliament not to take this too seriously? Where did she say this?

  • @ooklaus5585

    @ooklaus5585

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yivunqp963 watch PS replies to ET when he visited KS house

  • @ooklaus5585

    @ooklaus5585

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZt6uMtyn5jYfNY.html 56:00

  • @carolchua475

    @carolchua475

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whether her mum said that or not is hearsay from PS. Also at that time her parents still did not know about her lie so I was puzzled as to PS's motive in dragging mum into the picture. Lost many points with me.

  • @yivunqp963

    @yivunqp963

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ooklaus5585 Thank you

  • @user-ijh7tl5ie3
    @user-ijh7tl5ie310 ай бұрын

    Where is justice? This kind of bullying for all to see. So obvious that it is using RK’s lying and manipulation to destroy PS, SL and WP. I sympathise with PS, SL and Faisal.

  • @minxjap7878
    @minxjap78782 жыл бұрын

    1) Mr Faisal, Vice Chairman of The WP, when asked what he did after finding out Raeesah lied in parliament said he left it entirely to Pritam because he trusted him. 2) Ms Sylvia Lim, WP's Chairman also said she left the matter to Pritam Singh to handle. 3) Mr Pritam Singh said it was Raeesah's responsibility to clarify the lie in parliament. 4) The impression I got as a member of the public watching the enquiry was that the WP's leaders were trying to Tai-Chi the hot potato to each other, instead of admitting they had mishandled the matter & taking responsibility for it, which would have earned the respect of the public, instead of trying to be evasive & denying any responsibility whatsoever...

  • @chriscyng
    @chriscyng2 жыл бұрын

    It would suggest Miss Loh, Mr Nathan and Ms RK, to come out to reconfirm their statements. Should the statement is true and WP leadership rebutted that. Then the 3 of them should report this to police or Sue WP leadership for saying the statements is untrue.

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nathan and Loh can gives true statement too base on their account but to be false due the the fact that Reesha had lie to them while they themself do not get the full picture.

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why not? The loser will be WP

  • @ianho8244
    @ianho82442 жыл бұрын

    There is a moment in this video where Tong goes, "Exactly". It's at 17m 15s. Listen to Tong's voice. It carries the tone of a finally satisfied man. Pritam Singh has just said "Because I am aware of what the truth is, and I acted in good faith." Friends, you can watch witness examination for hours and hours, but to get this moment. To explain, Singh sees no problem that his knowledge that Khan's anecdote is a lie, three months from Khan's final truthful revelation, is not disclosed to his Party, because to Singh, he never told Khan to lie thereafter. That, my friends, is to beg the question, for the issue the Party must determine is Khan's conduct as a whole, and that includes her response to what Singh told her to do. You cannot beg the question, as Singh has done, for if you do, your reasoning is circular. That it is plainly relevant for the Party to know this can also be seen in this way: if, as Singh says, Singh had told Khan to come clean, and Khan disobeyed Singh by lying once more, that is an aggravating factor for the Party to consider.

  • @da0kia
    @da0kia2 жыл бұрын

    I don't get why ET alleges that PS not pointing out RK was forced to tell her leaders on 8 Aug is a mitigating factor... She continued to lie whether she told her leaders or not!? How is that mitigating? This man ET just wants to say that PS covered up the truth so he can slam him that he is dishonest and drive a rift between him and the WP members. Wether u like WP or not - let's just be clear that this is a politically charged "trial" - nothing to do with figuring truths or whatever

  • @lovesecret0119
    @lovesecret01192 жыл бұрын

    27:34 - 29:08 the truth in silence

  • @jeremysng4214
    @jeremysng42142 жыл бұрын

    COP members consist of Chairman & only ET.

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still got DENNIS TAN! I’m so angry people don’t give him enough respect!

  • @freshman-og4dp

    @freshman-og4dp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexoh6110 lol but 99% of the time only the Chairman and ET is speaking lol

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@freshman-og4dp That why I’m upset that he never cross-examine Pritam Singh longer when it’s his turn. Like that how to show us that he also smarty pants? Angry!

  • @freshman-og4dp

    @freshman-og4dp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexoh6110 which i find quite ridiculous as well

  • @takanna

    @takanna

    2 жыл бұрын

    clearly the COP has a narrative they want PS to agree by, and they cant stomach that he is being extremely clear about everything. the amount of allegations they are throwing at him, and the way they are forcing him to answer HYPOTHETICAL questions is disgusting.

  • @OkOk-vu7ch
    @OkOk-vu7ch2 жыл бұрын

    I never trust what is reported in the media, be it about this case or otherwise. Do you?

  • @carolchua475

    @carolchua475

    2 жыл бұрын

    Isn't that the reason why we watching hours and hours of interviews and hearing from the horses' mouths?

  • @shalomsharon8928
    @shalomsharon89282 жыл бұрын

    Mr Tan Chuan-Jin should step up in his role as Chairman. Mr Singh was obviously beating around the bush, not answering the questions directly and paraphrasing Mr Tong's questions repeatedly, causing unnecessary delay to the proceedings.

  • @coshinc5941

    @coshinc5941

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are very right. Beating about the Bush

  • @jansentan80
    @jansentan802 жыл бұрын

    to all those saying PS is paraphrasing the qns, he's not he's correcting the words that ET is using. the words are not what he means

  • @jkhkoh4849
    @jkhkoh48492 жыл бұрын

    I'm disgusted, not only has he shown disrespect and I'm sure he will to anybody, is this person's boorish nature. Coupled with his legal training and exposure, he's intent to run conundrums around words and his pedantic approach to answer questions, is absolute proof. "I already answered that in different ways". The simple plain words and meaning that Edwin used has no intention to mislead nor has any accusatory intention. And Edwin has been very courteous, which Pritam is very much aware, which he continues to play to the gallery, because he knows he's being watched. Complicitly, he formed the DP (made up of the SAME persons, that Raeesah had confided 3 months earlier, sought their counsel, enquire their advice and guidance, to hear Raeesah's lie and Pritam KNOWS it). Carefully, he remains, disagreeing, dissuading, and tip-toeing around 'her' conduct, re-authoring the testimony of his members, feigning some degree of implicit knowledge, now that he's on the stand. He's also, in his determination, didn't feel it wasn't necessary to tell the CEC about the prior knowledge, and his insistence that 'some' members is hearing groundswell that Raeesah's story has something more than meets the eye, and so they revealed this prior knowledge at their press conference, is whitewash. His remaining adamant to the point that he contends that Raeesah's conduct is the only concern, and his knowledge of that lie, even with 3 months prior knowledge, is NOT relevant to the DP's formation and their functional intent, does not hold water. All said, this is a leaking story. Not surprised, he will definitely be in discord with the findings and recommendations of the COP.

  • @GoGetter1347

    @GoGetter1347

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your view is the most honest that I have read. Good if more people see it the way an unbiased person would. Thanks JKH.

  • @user-vr1cs9pc1x
    @user-vr1cs9pc1x2 жыл бұрын

    Pritam: what facts is she (miss loh) referring to? Edwin checking. Pritam: U dun have that... Checkmate. Nice try Edwin. Keep repeating your questions

  • @sharonfletcher1753

    @sharonfletcher1753

    2 жыл бұрын

    Liar PS!

  • @user-vr1cs9pc1x

    @user-vr1cs9pc1x

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sharonfletcher1753 please elaborate

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sharonfletcher1753 Becareful, you can be sue even if the person you are referring too wanted it.

  • @theloyalistspeaks

    @theloyalistspeaks

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pritam may not be a liar. He is just very clueless. As a leader, he didn’t know what to do with a lie or clarify. He doesn’t know what his MPs real motives are. Now he is saying his own former MP is actually a mad nutcase and other WP members were lying. How to check the PAP if he cannot check his party? Ownself. Check. Ownself. And how can a Leader of the Opposition now say there was no harm done on the police because of her lies. Omg. Siaoliao.

  • @philz3ro823

    @philz3ro823

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theloyalistspeaks So I tell you I steal a diamond and you report me to police? What if I sue you for framing me?

  • @logicrule
    @logicrule2 жыл бұрын

    The difference between LKY and Pritam would be, LKY would have fired RK the minute he found out about the lie, instead of covering up, until nothing can be done and forcing her to resign.

  • @samsonnodelilah5459

    @samsonnodelilah5459

    2 жыл бұрын

    LKY would sent her crying packing to a foreign country...

  • @beezlebub9

    @beezlebub9

    6 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately at the same time, we have a speaker of parliament have a raging affair with an MP and getting away with counselling. Your comment aged like milk. I puke at it.

  • @guojing88
    @guojing882 жыл бұрын

    From this exchange between PS and ET, I understood better the poker concept of "telling a consistent story" in your betting. The following events that happened 1) Every thing that RK and her 2 assistants did and say, 2) the lack of responses by the 3 members of the DP towards the lie for so many months, 3)that PS did not tell anyone else, 4) the text "PS What should I do?", that RK sent in the middle of Shanmugam drilling. 5) that PS did not first tell her "“Why didn’t you tell the truth? We had an understanding right? Come on, own up.” 6) did not reveal the possible conflict of interest to the WP CEC were all consistent with the story "The 3 members of the DP instructed RK that she has no need to clarify the lie if the matter was not brought up again". That was Edwin Tong's main point. But PS disagreed and tried to offer another possible explanation, where PS wanted her to take "clear responsibility for her lie". But that explanation is simply not consistent with all the events that happened after that.

  • @sfqm1083

    @sfqm1083

    2 жыл бұрын

    “That explanation is simply not consistent with all the events that happened after”. Seeing that your point (and apparently Edwin’s) is that the 3 senior members of the WP insinuated the idea where “she has no need to clarify the lie if the matter isn’t brought up again”, then the explanation you refer to in top quote must be PS’s perspective of how the August confession went, and the events that happened after essentially refers to the lack of communication between RK and PS throughout September

  • @sfqm1083

    @sfqm1083

    2 жыл бұрын

    If that’s the case, then you are making the same mistake as Edwin Tong, where you both conveniently select specific anecdotes from the comprehensive list of evidence, then proceed to interpret them in a rudimentary fashion without considering the context. Context, which most lawyers and justice workers would know, is of critical importance in assessing the intent and nature of any action/message. Addressing your point 2; lack of response by the 3 senior WP members for 2 months (2 isn’t many by any definition), Pritam made it explicitly clear that after RK’s confession in August, she was to “address the issue” and at the very least, inform her parents. This information is important because RK’s lie is tied to her personal private experience as a sexual assault victim, and it is only her experience to share. Given that this is a personal matter, and the severity of her lie was still rather small during this period, is it unfair for a senior colleague and team leader to give her the space she needs to correct her mistake? You may potentially repeat some fools who keep saying “a lie is a lie”, and believe that everyone should have came clean IMMEDIATELY after knowing about the lie, but let’s be real here. Politicians lie all the time (even PAP in parliament), and often these small lies of personal recounts don’t amount to much in record. The severity of RK’s lie was essentially similar to those, with the exception now being that MHA had chosen to follow up on it thus making it much more severe. Pritam didn’t know this, no one knew this, until the 4th of October parliamentary sitting. So the urgency to actually correct her mistake only intensified after 4th Oct, subsequently which Pritam did press RK to take responsibility. He also made it clear on 3rd Oct that she should take responsibility if the matter were to rise in parliament the next day, which is not only a definitive direction, but also an indirect timeframe. So Pritam did “do something”, but the urgency of which he did is obviously not satisfactory to the PAP and COM. Why his lack of urgency is understandable and fair, given the context, will be explained by my next para. Addressing your point 5 about Pritam not being technically clear and straightforward (or blunt, in this case) with RK immediately after her confession in Aug, well what would you rather he have done? We can be speculative and identify all the better steps that could have been taken in hindsight, but in that moment and context Pritam still had the role of a leader and senior to play in caring for a colleague who has made herself vulnerable. Let’s put ourselves in Pritam’s position in Aug. Assuming that we don’t know how severe the lie would eventually get, and RK explained that her lie is related to a personal sexual assault experience; would it be better to giver her some space so that she can correct her actions in a more “comfortable” manner, or just straight up tell her that “we don’t care, you lied and you need to own up to it NOW”? Again be reminded of the context: not caring about a sexual assault victim’s personal rights VS Correcting a lie said in parliament which is relatively small, of which its severity and relevance to subsequent parliamentary sessions is not known yet. Now don’t misinterpret me and accuse me of saying integrity is not that important, or that it’s okay to lie as long as you own up to it. No. Everything RK did was wrong, and I’m sure no one would dispute that. But Pritam’s handling of her case was influenced by social factors that are far heavier than PAP playing them to be, and ultimately he did tell RK to own up to her mistake before she lied a 2nd time. If you still feel so strongly about how this lie was handled by WP, then I encourage you to exercise the same passion for all the times PAP has lied to the public or covered up their mistakes. Mind you, Vivian Balakrishnan’s false statement in June regarding TraceTogether has a far far far greater implication than a mere personal, vague recount of making a police report.

  • @guojing88

    @guojing88

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sfqm1083 Anyway, the revelation of RK's mental condition by Sylvia reminds me of the plot of the Netflix movie "Fractured". I should watch that movie again. Well done Sylvia, WP's MVP for this COP.

  • @MrLEECHINSOON
    @MrLEECHINSOON2 жыл бұрын

    Raeesah Khan is complicated. Thus came her lie. Pritam Singh is equally complicated. Thus came two different versions about why WP did not help to unfold her lie - One by him while the other one from Raeesah Khan. Sylvia Lim is not lesser complicated then the above two. Thus came her coordination with Pritam Singh on his version. Faisal Manap is the least complicated as he has a heart for assault victims. Thus came his version that he did not question Raeesah Khan on 8 Aug 2021 in Pritam Singh house. Raeesah Khan left the house with Pritam Singh walking her to his main door. The other two WP complicated leaders remained behind. According to Sylvia Lim version, she said the three of them did not talk about Raesaah Khan lie but they focused more on the other two topics that had caused disturbances to the Muslim community. We have two guesses here. First one was they could not care more about the lie; they thought it was ok to lie. Well, it was just a small matter & confidentiality is a serious matter, so perhaps the Parliament would let it go. Second one was her other two topics were more serious because the Muslim community was getting very upset but the Parliament was ok, peaceful. So it was ok to cover up the lie & did not need to do anything as long as no one would bring up her allegation. Thus, it seems like they could have high confidence in their own judgement towards Raeesah Khan allegation. On the other hand, if they are very seasoned politicians with integrity, they would have discussed seriously on the correct steps to help Raeesah Khan to apologize to the party, gain back her respect & also to prevent their party reputation to be tarnished if any parliamentarian was to question her again. They did not predict the possible consequences & so they kan-rang-ka-bo when Law Minister Shanmugan declared that the Home Team would not rest her case (the allegation) until the truth came out. Oppsss...Thus they scurried to discuss & plan on what their (former) youngest MP should say at the next Parliament. Nevertheless, they did not anticipate that the Privileges committee would be waiting for Raeesah Khan. Their heads must have gone really big at that time. If only Pritam Singh had not instructed her simply to take up the ownership of her own problem & he would not be judging of her decision, it would be a different approach & consequence altogether. If he had told her to tell the truth that she lied & laid out all the bad consequences before her, we are sure she would be smart enough to realize that she had to admit to her lie in the party on 4 Oct 2021. Thus, the KEY TAKEAWAY of the whole saga is what & how did the three senior leaders instruct Raeesah Khan when they met together on 8 Aug 2021! If it was to tell the truth at the next earliest Parliament, Raeesah Khan would be ready to confess on 4 Oct 2021. If their instructions were to keep up with the lie, ah ha guess what? She did it very well all the way! Lied untill all the way! Lied until all of us felt dead worried for her sia. We think no minister & MP had dare to lie straight to Minister K Shanmugan & the Parliament so directly. LoL...no matter what will happen next, those who are complicated can continue to be complicated but do have the mind & heart to know the heavy consequences when one decides to accuse falsely with no real evidences.

  • @jpphua602

    @jpphua602

    2 жыл бұрын

    How does it benefit Pritam and the WP for her to continue the lie?

  • @MrLEECHINSOON

    @MrLEECHINSOON

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jpphua602 . To you and me, there is no logic or benefits to PS or WP. But, When you have incompetent and dishonest MP, this is what going to happen even though it sounds illogical.

  • @samabieze6850
    @samabieze68502 жыл бұрын

    The pot calling the kettle black. So very disgusting. Full of hypocrispy!!!. Enough. Not going to waste my time listening to this.

  • @gparamaeswary7276
    @gparamaeswary72762 жыл бұрын

    What does Pritam get for RK not divulging the truth!!!

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let me tell you what PS gets when RK divulge the truth. This KZread video.

  • @sharonfletcher1753

    @sharonfletcher1753

    2 жыл бұрын

    PS full of BS and lies! Cocky and full of himself!

  • @gparamaeswary7276

    @gparamaeswary7276

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexoh6110 RK lied not PS

  • @alexoh6110

    @alexoh6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gparamaeswary7276 well, I never said PS lied. I said when RK starts speaking the truth, this video is the what PS gets out of it. Can you now understand what does Pritam get for RK not divulging the truth? The avoidance of being part of this video. Got a feeling you won’t understand what I’m saying. Anyway, stay safe and stay happy! Cheers!

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