Edwin, don’t need to play hero and attempting to throw Mr Singh under the bus. You jolly well know your true intentions and motives way before you even start this interview. Don’t be bias and personal feelings aside.

Edwin Tong comes across as a nagging old grandmother. He caught a child stealing cookies from the cookie jar. He asks the child's father in a hundred different ways why the child stole the cookies. After hours of grilling the father, he asks, "what if we assume the child didn't steal from the cookie jar?" And the grilling starts all over again. He definitely doesn't deserve a seat in the committee.

@rinky_dinky

2 жыл бұрын

I think he was given the job as the lead lawyer for this case

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

Edwin Tong is doing his job. WP knew of the lie in august but somehow didn’t make it clear to RK that the party position is for her to tell the truth. Even with time to tell her family, she would have been clear what the party stand ultimately would be. Pritam has shown that he has a way with words but all he needed to tell RK was for her to ‘tell the truth’. I don’t know about cookie jars but that sure is fishy. I am glad that Edwin Tong forced the issue.

@jpphua602

2 жыл бұрын

@@leannestage9657 She's not a child. She knows what taking responsibility for her actions mean.

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

@@jpphua602 The lie affects public trust in the police and abuse victims may not seek help from the police. It is serious. All MPs have to ensure parliamentary integrity. I can’t understand why, WP CEC would learn about the untruth in August but do not check with RK until October. Or why they would not ensure in no uncertain terms that she is to come clean. Surely the instruction should be, ‘ you should be responsible and tell the truth’. But it was, ‘it is your responsibility, …… I will not judge you.’ Well …. Thank you for your comment.

@jpphua602

2 жыл бұрын

@@leannestage9657 The lie was made in parliament. How many people do you know actually tune in to a parliamentary hearing? It's a narrative propagated by the media and spread by social media. An MP gives a false analogy in parliament about a couple of police officers mishandling a case involving a sexual assault victim. How does that affect the trust of the whole police force? That's an exaggeration.

Edwin tong deserve to get egged seriously. Really horrible demeanour. Talking nonsense. Desperately and deliberately trying to bait Pritam hoping he would slip but our bro maintain steady all the way. Respect to Pritam.

"What part of "No" does Edwin Tong don't understand! " ROFLMAO

@justineesun3396

2 жыл бұрын

O man...what school does he came from? sounded familiar?

Edwin Tong's way of questioning leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Reminds me of a toxic partner forcing you to agree to his version of a narrative - so much gaslighting. Props to Pritam Singh for being so sharp and holding his ground in a calm manner. This is a biased and unfair hearing and I am disappointed by how Edwin Tong is trying to force a certain outcome - it is tiring to watch. His constant interruptions are rude as well, yet he wants to exert his own power and authority by setting rules of asking Pritam Singh not to interrupt - the irony. Even simple things like having a "MR" for ET's name plate and not for PS are all a power play. Shame on PAP, shame on Singapore and shame on anyone who was on this committee.

@kakashi1982

2 жыл бұрын

Agree totally.

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

If Pritam was so sharp, why didn’t he just tell RK to ‘tell the truth’ and help her with a statement for September sitting or for October sitting? Why say “I will not judge you”? Who is gaslighting who?

@jeremychan609

2 жыл бұрын

@@leannestage9657 "i will not judge you for you revealing your sexual assault details and why you lie". That's probably the context of "I will not judge you"

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremychan609 hi, Jeremy. Thanks for your reply. If he had said, ‘tell the truth, I will not judge you’, it would have been clear. Lying to parliament is serious, Pritam is experienced enough to be plenty clear of the next course of action. Anyway, WP did hold a disciplinary panel to judge RK, ironically after she told the truth.

@ducockk

2 жыл бұрын

I’m watching from Australia and couldn’t agree with your comments more. The way how the questions are crafted is completely biased, the goal is not to find the truth but to force Singh to accept Tong’s version of truth. This is simply a political power play. For everyone questioning why Singh didn’t press Khan to correct lie for another 2 months, you may want to appreciate if your leader gave you time and space to deal with a very personal matter if you were in the same situation. Sometimes it is very easy to criticise other’s actions with the knowledge of hindsight, but if you put yourselves into Singh’s shoes, you may start to understand from his perspective. We are human not machines, and great leaders need to have empathy.

The main point here is if this was the other way around, if a PAP MP was in the position of RK, will all these even take place at all and will the media keep blowing this up. This is the issue I'm having with this nation. Isn't this the reason why Singapore is not invited for the democracy summit.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing to do with media. The fact is there is a cover up.

@Tommashelbyeee

2 жыл бұрын

@@coshinc5941 what u mean by nothing to do with media? Majority of Singaporeans know that the government medias are controlled by PAP. If u live in Singapore long enough, u would know that it’s an obvious answer. Media doesn’t blow up for PAP mp mistakes so many Singaporeans don’t know that such thing happened. But if it’s an opposition, it’s a whole new ball game since 1960s.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tommashelbyeee Not true. We don't have fox news here

@flowertowerrr

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting point. PAP would indeed cover it up. But aiyuh nothing to do with democracy submit.

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

Countries invited to the democracy summit included Democratic Republic of Congo which is in middle of civil war and which also has Ugandan troops within its borders. Pakistan is in but Bangladesh isn’t. Why do you think? Take a look at the list, at some more dubious invitees. Besides what does this have to do with our parliament looking into an MP’s lies and if the untruth had been enabled by her party. Wouldn’t that speak better for transparency? Bear in mind the video is released to the public unedited.

RK is an adult and formerly an MP, despite what advise or guidance she receives, she is ultimately fully responsible for her action.

@soeswanto1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. She also got her job in the guise of Worker's Party. Hopefully Oppies learn here on; that due process is necessary i candidate pre-qualification. Character, honour and integrity is part of the balance score card. Not who her father is. As leader of WP during election, and Leader of the Oppies in Parliament; PS must have the character, dignity and integrity to clearly benchmark expectations of Oppies. ...He is looking boisterous and silly in this "Hearing" as it is clear he is trying to stear away from the core !! i.e. Did Workers Party deal with the case internally with respect for all (including voters/supporters ) and was it an honest process and narrated with honesty..

@leechengho8407

2 жыл бұрын

You're right, COP shld grilled her incessantly for her lies instead questioning PS or F without any logic.

@soeswanto1

2 жыл бұрын

@@leechengho8407 she has already admitted to lying and have said that her party's counsel is for her to bring the lie to her grave. The grilling stage as far as RK is concerned is past. So what are the circumstances? This is where the issue lies. This is the logic, if you can't see it.

@User-gl5tu

2 жыл бұрын

It's just like a convicted thief will claim that someone asked him/her to do it. So the one who tell her should be prosecuted?

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken ri... Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yes or no...

Obvious assumptions made before even the start of ordeal. If you already made the assumptions, this ordeal is useless.

I suggest that everyone watch the session with Ms Khan again in light of the WP leadership's testimonies. Edwin Tong was acting as a defence lawyer for Ms Khan trying very hard leading Ms Khan to implicate the WP leadership with his questioning. The WP leadership had nothing to do with Ms Khan concocting the lie nor encouraged her to continue with the lie. It's time PAP leadership dissociate itself from Edwin Tong in order to preserve its good name. A separate COP should be conducted to investigate the conduct of Edwin Tong now and bar him from this COP immediately. PAP cannot allow the narcissism of one person bring the whole party down.

Edwin Tong should resign immediately. Not only is he a disgrace to the PAP, he's also a disgrace to all Singaporeans.

Pritam Singh definitely won’t go down without a fight. They keep trying to get Pritam to answer yes or no only, to a point of feeling annoyed by Pritam.

@verifirplays

2 жыл бұрын

Very true. Im thinking they are trying to fabricate WP within their own party. This is utter nonsense. All the while WP had been doing good for the people.

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

You can see him fumble in this vid.

@logic8673

2 жыл бұрын

This is not about who won. Just exposing the cowardly leader of the opposition

@imran-gl9hy

2 жыл бұрын

FM nearly got stripped completely naked leaving only his brief left with him but PS left with most of his intact. ET's grilling was top notch though.

@WitheredAnemone

2 жыл бұрын

@@logic8673 then you agree the purpose of this committee is not about investigating RK lies in parliament which should be the basis of inquiry, it is about something else, perhaps some wider agenda against WP? In your own words ‘exposing the cowardly leader of opposition”? Yes or no answer only.

Put your country first, not your party. Please!!

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

He is not truthful.

I think the more Edwin talks, the more I find that he is muddled and his suggestions cannot link to a punchline conclusion. Every time Pritam steers him back to facts and outwits him in every event he tries to nail him. Pritam is still too smart for Edwin’s condescending and cornering ways!

@khtay8731

2 жыл бұрын

Nora, based on Your Analysis, I guess that's why Edwin is a Senior Counsel and Pritam is not.

@winwinwin282828

2 жыл бұрын

@@khtay8731 he was made a senior counsel based on what ? because he is a PAP member ? like many of the PAP ministers, he is nothing outside the government.

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

@@khtay8731 Edwin is the same type of clown as Cotton Comes from Sheep. Who ends up as minister of education to teach kids cotton comes from sheep.

@CH-uy3yu

2 жыл бұрын

@@khtay8731 haha.....so Edwin became a Senior Counsel because he is muddled headed and always steers away from facts to mislead ..........

@khtay8731

2 жыл бұрын

@@CH-uy3yu Guys, you know what the Internet allows? It allows fools like Win, Hrh and yourself to make believe that expression is The perfect substitute for brains. The less you know, the surer you are. A very Unfortunate fact of life.

My God, ET is just long winded, come to the point directly 😳Sir !

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

The witness is slippery and evasive. He doesn't answer the questions clearly and truthfully. So ET had to rephrase his questions.

@whatthefitt

2 жыл бұрын

@@brmin7312 more like ET wasn’t able to get PS to give him answers that fit his narrative. Wasting everyone’s time by trying non stop to put words into PS’s mouth. Too bad ET is no match.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@whatthefitt The timeline of events have too many holes to fill. In law, it's these holes that give way to the Truth. So in short, it's not a clear case. People want to know why no action from 8th Aug till Nov 2nd

@whatthefitt

2 жыл бұрын

@@brmin7312 People also want to know why no action and news about the investigation of allegations against Ivan Lim, Vivian’s TraceTogether blunder - when the public only found out more than half a year later. Only when he was questioned plus public outlash, did he admit in January. Why the delay for so long? Pot calling the kettle black 😂

This edwin seems more interested incriminating people than trying to find the truth... can we get a better lawyer instead? This is embarrasing.

@bobafett5757

2 жыл бұрын

Edwin is right to impose every question.

The more I listen to Edwin tong the more brain cells I’m loosing.

@r_ramendump9681

2 жыл бұрын

He honestly sounds like an unreasonable angry karen of a mother trying to scold another child cause her son blamed the other for falling off a swing by himself

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have brain cells?

@guantisengkun4342

2 жыл бұрын

@@rslin4888 Yeap i do unlike you, ITE Bimbo who only listens to blackpink

@rslin4888

2 жыл бұрын

@@guantisengkun4342 I have a masters. Haha

@guantisengkun4342

2 жыл бұрын

@@rslin4888 thats what every ITE bimbo says on the internet

How many manpower hours of MANY Ministers sitting there, and Staff and Costs have been spent on this Inquiry in total!? Raeesah did many wrongs, discipline her and say it clearly. Voters will decide whether to vote for WP or not again next time. No need to waste taxpayers' Money on Multi-million dollars Ministers' salaries (so many ministers over many hours altogether) questioning this.. We already knew Raeesah Khan is not good and some people already had trust in Pritam Singh shakened (because he did not stand up for citizens suffering COVID-19 vaccination-differentiated measures and accused well researched citizens of "Whatsapp University"). Please, PAP, stop wasting time and taxes.

@lilsaint91

2 жыл бұрын

No way we need more events like this. We need to enjoy entertainment and get paid at the same time.

Chairman was gracious to check that the witness has settled down nicely after the well deserved lunch break. Always nice to see serious faces smile once in a while despite the job ahead is challenging. The witness was also respectful and sat down only after he was asked to. Respectful of people and environment are important. Blessed with eloquent and brilliant people, Singapore will certainly do well.

@User-gl5tu

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, agree that TCJ is a very credible and fair LH and COP Chairman. KUDOS to him!

What a mess. Miss Khan has thrown WP into disarray. She should be stopped before she caused the mischief.

Anyone noticed ET's behaviour towards Confessed guilty compulsive Liar RK with so much respect, sympathy and politeness in stark contrast to PS. He treated PS like a criminal repeatedly imposing aggressively towards PS to agree with his unreasonable uncalled for hypothetical questions as if to prove RK's innocence. Did the conniving RK WhatsApp accusation against PS and SL....to take it to the grave w/o any witnesses present, fabricated these lies in order to receive a lighter sentence. I tend to believe so esp after SL hearing. SL produced medical evidence submitted by RK herself that she suffers from PTSD after her sexual assault as certified Only in Oct 21 by a Private GP Psychologist Not by IMH. So far there're also no available past history of her supposedly mental condition after so many years. Strange isn't it?? If you're neutral and not biased. At this latest revelation I even begin to suspect she might use her supposedly sexual assault?? to divert and gain sympathy as an excuse for her lies. WP greatest mistake is trying to act as humanly as possible towards her by failing to see thru her lies as an sexual assaults victim. Being a Leader sometimes you've to be cruel to be kind.

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

I have posted this reply to an earlier post but I think it applies here as well. I wonder why Pritam didn’t just tell RK to ‘tell the truth’, just three simple words. That would have made it so clear. Even with time to tell her family, WP could have helped her with a September statement or even the October statement of clarification, just as they helped her with the November statement when she finally confessed. I think WP was just hoping it would all just go away without any need to come clean. It would not have been difficult to tell RK. Just three words, ‘tell the truth’, or two words ‘don’t lie’ for Oct sitting or maybe just one word ‘confess’. By keeping it vague, they allowed for the lie to continue. Do you think Pritam was not aware of this? RK has PTSD, yes, and that is why WP had to help her but, no, they didn’t, they left her ‘to her own counsel’ for two months and that is humane? Interestingly, WP convened a disciplinary panel in Nov, when RK made a truthful clarification. Yes, we are a civil society or trying to be. The MPs took an oath to tell the truth. We have to hold them to that or would you want your laws to be based on lies or heresay? I have no negative sentiments about RK. I wish her well but there are serious consequences. What about the damage done to the reputation of the police? WP didn’t even apologise in its main public statement, only when asked by reporters. Pritam and WP CEC have shown a lack of integrity. Ms Lim and Mr Faisal looked the other way knowingly and intentionally kept information of their knowledge for as long as they could. Just imagine a WP government where lies are ok as long as nobody finds out.

My views on watching this extremely lengthy questioning. Edwin Tong please learn to take down notes as a respect for everyone's time. I've noticed that you have been repeating the same questions not once, not twice but countless times and I suggest you to watch all these clips yourself and have some reflections. I think you are no longer a commercial lawyer but one of our officials now, if so wasting resources in this way is it not productive and will bring everyone to the hell ? Get direct to the point and send the problem stirrer to IMH for a mental health check, will this be more fruitful and save resources ? Hope after this episode you are still in proper mental health, it's true that $$$ is not everything, humanity matters more.

@Banana-cc5rx

2 жыл бұрын

His way of questioning is similarly to how cops do to suspects they catch. Repeat and force it till the suspects give in and "admit". Are they truly guilty, doubt so

Potentially Meme-Worthy Moments: 1:14:55 - 1:16:50 Edwin & Pritam share a laugh over P's careful drafting of WP's press statement; arguing whether it had disingenuous omissions Vs. respect for not airing RK's dirty linen 1:17:50 - 1:18:22 Laughs all around as Edwin messes up date numbers & months in succession; figuring out P's expectation on what an appropriate timeline would have been 1:34:08 - 1:34:24 Edwin at risk of upsetting Pritam, again TLDW: 25:56 - 26:31 Pritam states that Loh & Nathan's accounts essentially began as misinterpretations of the (brief) recounting to them of what he communicated to RK on 3rd Oct 1:11:07 - 1:12:26 Pritam suggests that Loh & Nathan's actions and interpretations may also be slanted by loyalty to RK 1:59:21 - 2:01:14 Edwin suggests that Pritam specifically directed RK not to answer the police to hide that there was not yet any consensus by WP for telling the truth; P says that his position was for RK to come clean in parliament, and did not specifically encourage nor stop her from answering the police

@eddielim8230

2 жыл бұрын

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@soeswanto1

2 жыл бұрын

Because the 3 WP leaders are in authority to stage whatever outcome they want, from their so call investigation. Therefore, the national interest is to get to the bottom of these claims of timeline, settings and circumstances. That's the job.

@winwinwin282828

2 жыл бұрын

@@soeswanto1 national interest now is to deal with covid competently . lol

@tanalan3475

2 жыл бұрын

MORAL BANKRUPT Addict-win muddled up as signs he is complaining to his master he is not paid ENOUGH $$$-grab to sit n question in COP!!!... he earns more as private lawyer that he had claimed b4!!!

@shanteyeow3374

2 жыл бұрын

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Can we talk about just how much mental endurance the COP have ? Man.... Must be difficult and tiring

@soeswanto1

2 жыл бұрын

That's the job.

@sfqm1083

2 жыл бұрын

If you offer their salary to singaporeans willing to do the same, I assure you millions would jump at the opportunity

@winwinwin282828

2 жыл бұрын

8 vs 1, tell me who has better endurance

@Khabib9-z8w

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it is very pressurizing to sit there,for 3 hours plus then just a 10 minutes break like what,sitting there for 3 hours really drain inner energy and mental energy,maybe that’s why during the 2nd half both were less aggressive because of tiredness I guess maybe both skip lunch

This is a legit one lawyer vs another lawyer...I knw ur game u knw my game! 😂🤣

Life of politics.. great display of words. As an audience very hard to discern the truth

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

It's clear that WP mishandled this

@jeremychan609

2 жыл бұрын

@@brmin7312 i think it is clear that RK of WP mishandled herself and her own lie.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremychan609 She mishandled. Agree. The leaders were assisting her to lie

@jeremychan609

2 жыл бұрын

@@brmin7312 nope. I don’t think it is fair to draw such a conclusion. Assisting her to lie would mean that the leaders were approving of the lie and abetted her offence. If this was the case, no need to form their own disciplinary panel. No need also to circle and tell her to substantiate her account. No need to email members of their own party to tell them need to substantiate their accounts in parliament. In fact, if they were abetting to the lie, they would have made the lie more severe or contributed more to the lie itself.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremychan609 Therefore can you explain to me your take on the words" your call" and " I wouldn't judge you". Are these normal instructions or words that are used to address critical situations?

Pritam 1 - 0 Edwin

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

Pritam 1 : -10 Edwin

@qhairulsamsuddin1207

2 жыл бұрын

@@nsevv He thinks he’s in a court..

For 3 months the PAP did not ask Pritam in parliament if Ms Khan lied. That would have forced Pritam to tell the truth and Ms Khan would have resigned much earlier. They didn't do that only because they wanted to drag this out as long as possible to smear the WP. This could have ended much sooner had the PAP wanted to. They did not.

Its clear that RK shy away from responsibility. Even at this stage, she tried to throw the party under the bus. Ironically, PAPIES suddenly claim that PS is lying base on what RK has said. Its like asking PM lee to resign (take responsibility) because WKS who is in charge of home affairs back then when a prisoner escape.

@User-gl5tu

2 жыл бұрын

Were there any COI or COP that time?

@drb312

2 жыл бұрын

If WKS was the prison guard who was directly involved like RK is, then perhaps yes.

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

Good points, Pritam can become the next PM, much better than the guy who thinks cotton comes from sheep.

@jasonong5562

2 жыл бұрын

He most likely was given the opportunity to eascape so that the interpol could track him to his master and gang which they did. Such things government cannot openly say. Don't you guys watch 007?

Since 3 August 2021, it is disturbing that RK repeated her misleading statement / untruth / lie in Parliament on 4 October 2021. Is it easy to believe that RK continued to catch her WP leaders by surprise again by defiantly repeating her lie, after consultations with them during the 2-month period between 3 August 2021 and 4 October 2021? As leader of the opposition and WP chief, to what extent should PS distance himself of responsibility from repeated lies from an MP in his party?

@jennifer-oc6io

2 жыл бұрын

He mismanages

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@jennifer-oc6io truly mismanagement and frequently denying

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

Very true.He failed big time as a leader.Went to her house on 3rd Oct and didn't tell her how to come clean.And couldn't even bother to check on what she was going to say.His excuse of leaving all to her cannot be bought.

Puppies should cut their pay.... Too much focus on this... Waste of tax payer's money

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

If we don't get this right, we will be like our neighbours

u can come in from whatever angle u want but the outcome will only be one...LOL

I think as lawyer PS is much better in debate than tong and the line of questioning by the committee is to try find ways to put the blame on WP leaders. This particalur PS hearing is which seriously unnecessary prolong of the same repeated back and forth have backfire on the committee this time round. I believe PS intention of protecting Khan.

@soeswanto1

2 жыл бұрын

I see them both as equals in this setting. However, Pritam Singh certainly displayed flippance in his interlocutory and sanctimony in his attitude. His constant interjections is meant to cause diversions. Edwin Tong may not have his flamboyance but he certainly held his grounds and did a credible job in going through the details with a fine tooth comb. ......which is the purpose of this Hearing.

@michaelling6352

2 жыл бұрын

@@soeswanto1 I think u r slightly bias in ur judgement for Edwin tong u must understand the purpose of this hearing is to find out the truth with facts but Edwin tong in coming into this hearing for PS which his main agenda is to push the blame on him base on Khan statement (can't verify true or false). This case was easily WP leadership lack of judgment and their priority should be to the people and not for Khan I mean 3 months is a bit too long to condemn her action and not come clean to the parliament whether he feels the need to give her time or not as WP and opposition leader he should state his intention clearly.

@michaelling6352

2 жыл бұрын

@@soeswanto1 I just feel tong dun need to use this tactics to fault WP instead he is giving PS more credit in his excuse.

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

This Pritam should be the next PM, so much better than the guy who thinks cotton comes from sheep.

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

@@soeswanto1 Edwin was an utter disgrace as a lawyer his arrogance is abhorrent. very unprofessional Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yes or no... Pritam : ...

Why this rk gives some much problem.That is her personal problem. That is kamar. We as a first class citizen should look into higher intelligent debates like improving economy and climates change ,etc

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

So you are ok with lies in parliament and maybe we can implement laws based on lies? We want to improve the economy, yes, but parliament deals with all aspects of civil life. The police force is an important part of our civil laws. Imagine if RK’s lies are taken as truth and people start to distrust the police? Is that fair? Do note that the lies were repeated three times and for almost three months with WP knowing of it.

The issue was S Khan lied in Parliament and it was for the COP to grill S Khan and charge her for any wrongdoings. It was an irony that the PAP was harassing the WP leaders.

@khtay8731

2 жыл бұрын

Robert, what's so Ironical. Did Khan become an MP as an independent or was she an MP as a representative of the WP? Does the WP have a hierarchical Command Structure? Does this WP Command Structure have real and operational control? Yes or no? Is this relevant or not relevant to government? Every election if clean can lead to the Opposition becoming a government. Let's not have a oh I don't know because it never happened before mindset. This kind of mindset will spell disaster for Singapore. Our Parliamentary Integrity should not try to match UK or USA's.

@matthewmurphy636

2 жыл бұрын

Yes S Khan 🤣

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

lol Clown Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken ri... Clown Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Clown Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yeeees or noooo!...

They are pushing their own narrative on the events lol. like KDB said" Let me talk!!!!

@fiost1489

2 жыл бұрын

Pritam is clearly lying here

@astctrigo

2 жыл бұрын

@@fiost1489 why "clearly" leh?? In that case, i can also say ET was also clearly forcing onto PS the assumptions and ideas he has built which may or may not be true. *shrugs*

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder why Pritam didn’t just tell RK to ‘tell the truth’, just three simple words. That would have made it so clear. Even with time to tell her family, WP could have helped her with a September statement or even the October statement of clarification, just as they helped her with the November statement when she finally confessed. I think WP was just hoping it would all just go away without any need to come clean. It would not have been difficult to tell RK. Just three words, ‘tell the truth’, or two words ‘don’t lie’ for Oct sitting or maybe just one word ‘confess’. By keeping it vague, they allowed for the lie to continue. Do you think Pritam was not aware of this? Pritam and WP CEC have shown a lack of integrity. Ms Lim and Mr Faisal looks the other way knowingly and intentionally keeps information of their knowledge for as long as they could. Just imagine a WP government where lies are ok as long as nobody finds out.

@fiost1489

2 жыл бұрын

@@leannestage9657 And why SL who knew RK was emotionally fragile ,so fragile that the lie was never discussed on 8 Aug could desert her without a single call,message, or email? And by SL's own admission, she didn't contact the other 2 seniors too to enquire about RK's fitness or progress on her talks with parents etc for 2 solid months. Very cold.She is the Chairman of WP. Extremely disgusting behaviour

Mr Singh is no Angel himself, he will not relevant soon. We can't have dishonest people to manage Singapore ya!!

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

He was twisting his way before the break. See after the break.He became nervous because lying cannot be the way

@dacia_dacia

2 жыл бұрын

he himself lied throughout the whole session, trying hard to twist the evidence hoping to confuse Mr Tong. im just an ordinary citizen but im not stupid too, i see the whole time he tried hard to play around with words. what a disgrace! WP members lack honesty and integrity

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@justfair7399 good point

@seowlingwee4693

2 жыл бұрын

A Wolf in Sheep's clothing.

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

@@seowlingwee4693 Well said👍

In order to commit a crime there must be a motive to benefit oneself. How does encouraging Ms khan to lie benefit the WP? So, to all the "smart" people out there... what's the motive?

Has anything been cleared up after Leader of the Opposition said what he said to the COP? It’s honestly a mystery to me even at this point…

@MuhammadHadi-to1nn

2 жыл бұрын

Quite clear PS is lying about what happened on 3rd of Oct

Walao eh, there are 4 parts totalling about 9 hours. Let me get some popcorn. Heng huh! Today is Sunday. I have spent about 5.5 h to watch FM today. Now I am going to spend the next 9 hours watching and learning how to make up lies. Haha.

@bobafett5757

2 жыл бұрын

You need more than just a Popcorn so grab lots of Keropok Puff Cakes Wines Coffee and all kind of snacks cos its long tale.

@1981qiluqilustephen

2 жыл бұрын

a big show... also not cheap to produce it... considering those hourly rates...

@haselfrancisco5420

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

Give you spolier... In the end Edwin "'apologised"' and thanked Pritam for bearing with his questioning. Arrogant Edwin was reprimanded by Pritam on several occasion for asking same question to which Pritam had already given the answer 4-5 times. Edwin even forgot the dates and started scolding himself. Pritam even scolded him for not even understanding the meaning of the word no. Everyone was laughing at Edwin. In summary it was just... Clown Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken rice and I only lik... Clown Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Clown Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yeeees or noooo!... Pritam : ...

@bobafett5757

2 жыл бұрын

@@nsevv *STOP BEING CHILDISH !!! ITS OFFENSIVE AND SINFUL AND ITS NOT A JOKE TO TELL LIES INSIDE PARLIAMENT AND WORSE AS A LEADER YOU DID NOT EXPOSE THE LIES FOR 3 MONTHS KNOWING IT AND WASTE SPF TIMES AND RESOURCES INVESTIGATING IT SO GROW UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OK*

Why no sound (Edit) Eh now have already

What should happen next is obvious. Subject Ms Khan to a psychological examination. Recall her back to substantiate her "take the matter to the grave" statement as that's disputed by all 3 of the WP leadership. Anything less will cast the PAP in a bad light.

@SL-qv6gr

2 жыл бұрын

Yes if there's no biase or ulterior "motives" by PAP COP shdnt have any problems in going the extra mile by recalling RK "the actual compulsive liar criminal" and grill her into requesting for further past Medical records to substantiate her Convenient claim as suffering from PTSD due Sexual assault when she's in US !! Why Only able to substantiate it from a Private Psychotherapist again conveniently in OCT. As what previously Police have had thoroughly and diligently investigated her lie and uncovered the truth. RK again conveniently covered her lies due to confidentiality excuse. This show how conniving she's.Yet ET let it slide and didn't even grilled or recalled her for further clarification!!? In contrast COP only continued to harass and intimidate PS,SL and Faisal like "Criminals" even ridiculously persistently questioned how Faisal's personal notes came about. As a lawyer he shd know even in the court of law witnesses and defendents are legally permitted to have notes and lawyers to defend themselves. ET's unbecoming behaviour is similar to those Communist proceedings in court. The PAP chairman have had blatantly shown throughout these hearings to be biased. Whenever these witnesses appealed to him to stop ET from repeated misleading queries and imposing hypothetical questions which the witnesses had previously provided but not to his personal liking. He ignored their pleas instead help ET to repeat the same questioning , how disgusting!! Is COP trying their best to drag on this Saga as long as the Pandemic??

@patrick1349318

4 ай бұрын

No

Witch hunting at it's highest level. Carefully crafted, answered, repeated asking and suggestion in the hope of a flawed answer and ah......If there is evidence, just report it to Parliament and we all like to see it's outcome.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

It's not witch hunting. The tracks are already there Look at the time line of events WP hid too many information. Why didn't they tell their own CEC that they knew it was a lie from 8 Aug? I dont understand

PS is very alert , he knows well ET is putting words into his mouth to force come out with some sort of words to jump on him ! Lawyer versus Lawyer, LOL 😴😴

@winwinwin282828

2 жыл бұрын

good lawyer vs lousy lawyer to be precise

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

Pritam showed his lack of conviction in the answers.

We should have an accurate information, in order to have an accurate judgement.

26:30 WAHHHHH don't tell me this who hoohaa is because of a misunderstanding and misinterpretation of 'i won't judge you " ?????

Literally Avengers vs Thanos and Thanos is pulling a infinity war

Why are we talking about some stupid lies made big just because it's from worker party, but if people from pap do it. It's all hidden from public

As citizens of singapore, there is zero tolerance for MP lies in parliament, no matter which party. That's the very basic to ensure the standards of 1st world parliament

@verifirplays

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but PAP hadnt lied to the people on anything?

@MrJoetanks

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes.. "trace together only for contact tracing"....nothing else....who is the bigger liar?

@1981qiluqilustephen

2 жыл бұрын

@@verifirplays agree. not for now and shouldn't be in any time in future

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

PS was twisting. He was relatively tamed and started to beg for his memory. A sign of lies

@NC000C

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJoetanks you know what is the difference between mispoke and making a blantant lie and attempts trying to cover a lie?

Ms Loh, Ms Khan, Mr Nathan sounds more truthful in this hearing. The others are just trying hard to lie to shirk any responsibility.

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

You are right

@mycworld6782

2 жыл бұрын

indeed

@mycworld6782

2 жыл бұрын

cos they hv time to prep their defense

@NC000C

2 жыл бұрын

Pritam is a letdown

@WitheredAnemone

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, considering Ms Khan also sounds very truthful in parliement, did not try to shrink responsibility, trying very hard to protect confidentiality. The others were just intrusive trying to get Ms Khan to breach victim confidentiality. . . wait…owhhh..ooops

Overall this episode is breeding a positive outcome. WP gets rid of a bad apple. WP wins votes for the next election.

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

WP knew of the lie in august but somehow didn’t make it clear to RK that the party position is for her to tell the truth. Even with time to tell her family, she would have been clear what the party stand ultimately would be. Pritam has shown that he has a way with words but all he needed to tell RK was for her to ‘tell the truth’. WP removes ‘bad apple’ but keeps people who would hide a lie from the people, and this would win them votes?

@jeremychan609

2 жыл бұрын

@@leannestage9657 Only RK knows the weight of her matter truly. Only RK knows about her sexual assault (or dare i say if any, a lack thereof). Only RK was the one who told the lie in parliament and persisted in it. Everything was actually her, acting in her own volition. Even if Pritam Singh knows about it, and assume he really forcefully forces her to say her truthful piece in parliament, do you have a definite yes that she will comply? Bear in mind that LPY and YN have already testified that RK makes her speeches herself. They help out in the form and arrangement of her speeches so as to make audience understanding better etc. She herself is the one who will ultimately decide on the content, and what to add or subtract from her own speech. She is also ultimately the one who speaks into the podium mic in the parliament chamber herself. Every step of the way, from conception, to execution of her own thoughts, speech etc, is hers to be. Why is there suddenly a need for someone else to be responsible for her?

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremychan609 thank you for your reply. I do appreciate your sharing. The parties need to police their own. This is the reason why WP had a disciplinary panel. RK wasn’t just an MP, she was a WP MP. The line of questioning at the COP is because RK told the WP CEC and what their actions are reflects on how they uphold the integrity of parliament. By your argument, you also mean that PAP need not be responsible for their MPs either?

@jeremychan609

2 жыл бұрын

@@leannestage9657 was the PAP secretary general responsible when Michael Palmer had an extra marital affair or any of the other MPs with misconduct?

@leannestage9657

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremychan609 hi Jeremy, palmer was sacked the moment the transgression was discovered. The contention here isn’t that RK lied, that is established, but what WP did when they found out. In all honesty, would WP have filed a clarification? They didn’t have to wait for a parliamentary sitting to inform the parliament. Their own disciplinary panel was convened, not in October when RK persisted in her lie but in November when she told the truth. Besides, Palmer cheated on his wife (affecting mainly his family) but RK lied to the people. Imagine if the lie was not discovered or was allowed to ride, the police would lose public trust and abuse victims would think the law would not help them. Pritam was willing to allow the lie to continue if mr Shanmugam had not persisted, and ms Lim and mr Faisal looked the other way. This is not about RK anymore. This incident has shown that WP puts the party before the country. If they are not responsible for their own people or be willing make difficult decisions, would you want them to be responsible for our country?

This RK really likes Drama. Thank god his father didn't end up being the President lmao

@asha8517

2 жыл бұрын

It's HER father. RK is a lady. ;)

Singapore is definitely moving towards a paperless society.

Throughout the whole COP session. Mr Edwin Tong was constantly repeatedly dissociating Mr Pritam Singh from answering the very question which he himself (Edwin) proposed to(Singh).

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

An evasive answer not addressed to the question is not an answer

@CH-uy3yu

2 жыл бұрын

maybe he also has same problem like Ms Khan....dissociation behaviour ...hmmm

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@CH-uy3yu Towards the end, he can't remember things and just shot out his grievances. Weakness

Dude, why does this video make me remember of the session between Minister Shanmugam and Facebook Representative! Trying to avoid questions(playing with different terms)! Interesting!(But of course didn't work as expected)

@fiost1489

2 жыл бұрын

" Irrelevant " cannot be an answer in cross examination

who the hell is this Jermaine person Edwin keeps bringing up

This WP leader always claims that the party's role is to ensure "checks and balances" in parliament. Now, he is subject to "checks and balances" by COP. What a disgrace and humiliation, seeing how hard he tries to prove his innocence.

@anakinskywalker8327

2 жыл бұрын

you say so much you do la

@ssvegeto1610

2 жыл бұрын

@@anakinskywalker8327 lmao so like that you don't ever criticise the PAP or the govt ok? otherwise you say so much you do la. Joke

@ktan8

2 жыл бұрын

I think he tried to give her time and space to resolve it herself given the serious sexual assault she was subjected to (i.e. the R word). You can argue that he should have dealt with it better on retrospection. Nonetheless it was certainly not something easy he had to handle. You're basically telling RK to tell the world that she had been r*. It's a rather difficult ask for both parties to be fair.

@anakinskywalker8327

2 жыл бұрын

@@ktan8 yes

@kingseiryu929

2 жыл бұрын

@@ssvegeto1610 aiya u all chill la. Don't want pap or wp or anything. Let sg come under China problem solved.

This was like a wife over analyzing a husband motives and putting words in him. stick with hard evidence and get the F.... OUT jokers ! Its embarrassing

Why need 8 to 10 Pap members to grilled 1 Wp member,?????

@gohwk85

2 жыл бұрын

There is one WP member in the Committee of Privileges

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

He is in trouble because he was encouraging her to lie

What evidence does the WP has to prosecute her when she confessed to them. The only evidence that Raseah khan is lying is her own words. If WP try to turn her to the police she can say: no I did not say I lied, then what? Remember this one is a liar. She can confessed that she lied, but she can also lied about not confessing that she lied. It is only rationale to tell her, if u really lied, go and confess to the police. Now she is trying to use her lies to take the party down.

Amazing

ET seems to be trying very hard to put his own perspective into PS's mouth and put them into record.. hahaha

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

He got tamed after the break. You can't keep lying

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

He advised her to ignore the police's request .He can't even remember how many times the police requested to meet RK And he can't even remember how many times You believe this man

@js7357

2 жыл бұрын

To be not humane is difficult after knowing the circumstances but still trying put the words as statements

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

In a nutshell. Clown Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken ri... Clown Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Clown Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yeeees or noooo!...

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

As a lawyer, Pritam is expected to behave like one. " Irrelevant " is not an acceptable answer.If everyone who is under police investigation just use " Irrelevant: as the answer, there will be no investigation

This incident taught me that Whatsapp message are not end-to-end encrypted, and government can have access to your message if they want to. LMAO!

lawyer vs lawyer each trying to find loopholes 😁

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

Lawyer vs clown. Clown Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken ri... Clown Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Clown Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yes or no...

@Banana-cc5rx

2 жыл бұрын

PSLE 2022 : Based on the above statements, so does Pritam Singh like chicken rice or not? (3 points)

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

@@Banana-cc5rx That question will not be qualified with an answer it is a typical stupid PSLE question that is breeding a generation of Clowns like Edwin Tong.

@supercop5

2 жыл бұрын

@@Banana-cc5rx in my opinion, based on my understanding, upon his suggestion and the interpretation of whether pritam likes chicken rice or not, to the effect that the chicken rice is steam or roasted, the consensus created by the gahmen for the procedure of standard operations, which wilfully divulges the line vis-a-vis to the chicken rice question, to my conclusion, in summarisation, by keeping this short and direct, to get straight to the point, i am uncertain whether pritam likes chicken rice or not.

@Banana-cc5rx

2 жыл бұрын

@@supercop5 yes. But does PS like chicken rice?

Raesah khan was probably not in the right mind and therefore she probably misunderstood everything Pritam Singh said.

@bobafett5757

2 жыл бұрын

If not in the right mind then how come can become MP and who paid her the salary ?

@CH-uy3yu

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobafett5757 you paid her too la......slapping yourself when you write .....shhhh...no one will know you not so good up there....

@bobafett5757

2 жыл бұрын

@@CH-uy3yu Then ask for refund lah how come now only after so many months caught lying then claim psychiatric problem ha

watch the whole proceedings and you can see how weak ET is and what his narrative is.

The big question is, why Pritam did not follow up with RK, for over 2 months, after he knew about her lie (in Parliament on Aug 3) since Aug 8? So, is it due to poor leadership, or that’s your problem not mine, or simply couldn’t be bothered attitude?! He is failed to be a good leader

@kalshatha

2 жыл бұрын

Yes point to think about!!!!! 👍

@pansylim6254

2 жыл бұрын

Good point

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

The big question in a nutshell. Clown Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken ri... Clown Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Clown Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yeeees or noooo!...

@Banana-cc5rx

2 жыл бұрын

It's likely hide if can hide, if exposed then it's all on the liar to begin with. That's why he and Wp didn't take any actions, if nothing was stirred. Not just wp, how many times pap shift goalposts, hide their mistakes and tide them over

U are fixated on your own lies!

As a leader, why is he not doing his homework first before attending the hearing . Disappointed

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

A less than honest witness usually can't recall. Typical.

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

Agree this edwin is hilarious, he should have done more research. Clown Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken ri... Clown Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Clown Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yeeees or noooo!...

@fiost1489

2 жыл бұрын

@@nsevv It's ain't funny. You have zero ethics and knowledge. Stop making a fool of yourself

In a nutshell, why are u resort to indirect communication when addressing serious matter like this?

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

In a nutshell. Clown Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken ri... Clown Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Clown Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yeeees or noooo!...

He admitted that he asked RK to ignore the police's request to interview her. Very bad decision. Such guys are dangerous for Spore He is using freedom of speech as the excuse. Lame excuse and poor reasoning. Basically PS was adamant of keeping the lie.

@ktan8

2 жыл бұрын

I think if you look at part 3 (or it was maybe part 2), he said he told her to reply to the police that she will address it in parliament.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@ktan8 Do you believe it? Do you think it's correct to ignore the police? Something is just not right. He was telling her to challenge the police, an act of insubordination. Are such acts good for Singapore as a society?

@markfish1113

2 жыл бұрын

Reason is MP have immunity in parliament, better confess in parliament than police station as after that no need come out already.

@Banana-cc5rx

2 жыл бұрын

That's because you are seeing it from a civilian perspective. These are MPs they have their ways of settling things. Any thing you say, or say wrongly can be use against you. Why do you think PS is being so careful and seemingly dodging around ET

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

@@brmin7312 It was a request, it is not compulsory. It is better for her to clear in parliament.

I dun judge you on personal level Raeesah, but SG Law will judge. expect you to tell the truth take the responsibility and sentencing of your punishment. then earn your way back to MP if you still have what it takes

This COP gives me the impression as though PS made a false statement in Parliament and was a sexually assaulted victim himself. This COP spend more time on PS than Raeesha herself. Strange to me??

@txsics3916

2 жыл бұрын

Not strange if you heard Ms Khan's evidence.

@firefly4326

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@firefly4326

2 жыл бұрын

@@txsics3916 according to you, are you saying RK is a victim?

@txsics3916

2 жыл бұрын

@@firefly4326 just saying they are questioning this way as a journey of fact finding because of previous evidences given by the earlier witnesses. It is basically a normal progression of hearing witnesses for fact finding process. Without judging who is truthful or not, because under oath and under common law, it is assumed all evidences provided are truthful until proven otherwise.

@leechengho8407

2 жыл бұрын

Not only strange but funny too n can even turn COP into a circus with ET as a clown.

I have enough of this BS, one big question here is where is my part 1 CNA? You uploaded part 2 , 3 , 4 without part 1.

Overall feeling is edwin is too junior to be the head of this inquiry. Got to need someone more experience

Hello. Mr chairman and Edwin Tong. If you want to assume, the two of you can go to any nearby kopitiam to assume all you want. Why subject all Singaporeans to 9 straight hours of torture. This is abuse of parliamentary privilege. Indranee, please do your job.

Pritam was tamed after the break. The events leading to 4th Oct and 1st Nov were not consistent. He was trying to lie his way through. Too bad he cant

*RK has turned this Hearings into House of Gucci* 😀

We are interested to know if WP nudge RK to lie. However even if Mr Sigh denied, it feels like WP severely lack of proper communications within the party which supposed to be so basic

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

The actions leading to 4th Oct and 1st Nov vastly differs. There were cover ups.

@skydragon23101979

2 жыл бұрын

@@justfair7399I beg to differ because there is such a thing as micro management where you keep following up. There is also a thing as I treat you as a responsible adult and give you space and time to do your own thing within a limit. I believe WP style is the latter because as an opposition they do not have males resources hence the difference before and after certain dates.

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

In this vid, he is tamed.And can't remember things You guess

@rinky_dinky

2 жыл бұрын

Surely PS didn't take the reigns and whip his party members into shape . I think he believes in another style of management . I personally don't feel Pritam singh told her to lie or deceive why would he do that ? There isn't a benefit , he is too smart for that .

@fiost1489

2 жыл бұрын

@@rinky_dinky Why the non disclosure that the party leaders knew that it was a lie by 8th Aug. They hid it from their CEC. There must be something

Who’s the judge of this trail ? Who’s going to deliver the verdict ? Especially now that RK has already pleaded guilty. Just wondering….

@Soshiaircon91

2 жыл бұрын

There is no judge, this not a Courtroom this is a CoP hearing.

I was wondering why previous PAP MP's before elections making promise here n there but didn't fulfill us so that's worse than telling lie making empty promise. Hello don't act professional please 🙏 this Edwin is also under PAP( pay n pay) control!

@emaansalle3111

2 жыл бұрын

Right

@whatthefitt

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a lot of lies over the years! Will they be questioned by the COP too? Ops not happening.. the COP is PAP 🤣

"Take the ownership and responsibility" refers RS take your own decision and "I won't judge you" is referred when someone takes a call mostly on negative side while another wouldn't judge. In this context, it feels, at that time in Oct no one knew this incident would blow up hard and thus PS and S showed support and asked RS to take her own decision and whatever she would decide it would not affect the way current affairs were then however when whole situation turned grave, it seems PS changed position either it really opened eyes and pushed Him to reassess that whole situation all over again or it was clear misjudgement and casual approach on that very matter.

Why didn't he give her firm orders to come clean on 3rd Oct when he met her . He allowed her to lie because he wants to cover up What happened from 8 Aug to 4th Oct since he knew it was a lie. Giving her time to talk to her parents was BS. Not truthful. This man will destroy Spore. How can he advised RK not to go to the police when they requested 3 times to meet her.

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

She is not a soldier to be given orders to.

the transcribers are the real MVP

OK, let's say Pritam Singh is telling the truth, why would he let RK continue to lie from August to November?

they are all under oath but someone lied still. best put them on lie detector or they face off then

Edwin Tong is a disgrace Pritam is Leader of the Opposition. He represents close to 10% of all elected MPs. He gives voice to 39% of Singaporeans who voted against the ruling party. Interrogating a Leader of the Opposition like a common criminal is just wrong. Indranee, as leader of parliament, you are solely responsible for opening this can of worms. The least you can do is to publicly censure Edwin Tong for the disgrace he has brought to the country. Just do your job.

The simple answer to this saga is the we are all not perfect beings at the end of the day, why is the committee of priveleges interogating the WP members, when the Ms Khan has already confessed about a gross mistake and action as been taken ownership for it? So what is the intention of the COP, to engage all the other memebers, blunders and lies have been told by the incumbent party time and again, are they perfect beings and can be above the law.Its absolutely absurd. and flabbergasting!!

@ssvegeto1610

2 жыл бұрын

haha "we are all not perfect beings at the end of the day" so next time if PAP makes a mistake we just use this excuse and move on ok? No checks needed. Absurd indeed

@theloyalistspeaks

2 жыл бұрын

People said it would be only fair for the WP leaders to be heard. So now when they are heard you say this is wrong?

All the crows making ill comments. Look , Raeesha on her own accord made an untruthful statement in Parliament about inappropriate police questioning of a sexually assaulted victim and lied she personally accompanied the victim to make a police report. She has to be responsible for it... that is a fact. She created her own trouble. That's it. So what should be the focus of this COP? It should be how Raeesha should be penalised since she is an MP and has admitted her own dishonesty already. This should be the focus of this COP. Why the need for mitigation for Raeesha who already confessed to lying other than politicising this issue. The fact is she finally has to confess and admit to the lie made and what is most important is how she is going to be dealt with.

@leechengho8407

2 жыл бұрын

V well articulated n appreciate ur justified comments.

@winwinwin282828

2 жыл бұрын

the COP under LHL instructions to make this longer than it should

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

The job of the COP is to get the final truth to decide the severity of RK's mistakes. Did she act alone?

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

@@winwinwin282828 But it had the opposite effect of showing Pritam ability to hold his defense under questioning. He seems like a better PM than the cotton comes from sheep clown. Clown Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken ri... Clown Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Clown Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yeeees or noooo!... Pritam : ...

@whatthefitt

2 жыл бұрын

COP mah - “Committee of PAP”. Suka suka use every opportunity to whack the opposition 🤷🏻‍♂️

Both sides trying their best to put words to each other mouths. There are many instances edwin try to suggest answers to the questions he asked, pritam continuous say no. I laugh so hard at all the wrong answers.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

He was a very slippery and evasive witness. Not easy to pin him down. The facts speak for themselves. He knew it was a lie very early bit hid it .

@woffydo

2 жыл бұрын

@@brmin7312 So what, perhaps He has underlying intent to protect the dignity of a women RK. I don't see anything wrong with it, she is young and perhaps made an error. Singapore can be very nasty, devoid of empathy and compassion, look at Chia Tye Poh who spent 27years in prison, the longest political prisoner in the world.

@brmin7312

2 жыл бұрын

@@woffydo Protecting her? Went to her house on 3rd Oct and didn't even see her script for 4th Oct. There is a lot of dishonesty here

@woffydo

2 жыл бұрын

@@brmin7312 if it’s your daughter who did it, or someone whom you know dearly, will you try to protect her? Or help her out ? Answer me this ..

If ONLY the (KZread) Dislike button is NOT TAKEN away, the show down will depict a totally different angle of reviews.

We are no fools, it’s very apparent that WP leaders are lying and should be culpable for Raeesah’s mistake. But I’m equally disappointed with PAP MPs, it seems that this COP has deviated from it’s main purpose to bringing down WP as a whole. The way ET tried to impose his assumptions on Pritam is rather biased and unprofessional

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

Pritam was lying See part 2.

@eddieang761

2 жыл бұрын

Ah Tong ho liao leh...there are many more important things to discuss

@vonnty

2 жыл бұрын

@@justfair7399 Oh yes, it’s crystal clear to everyone that the WP leaders are lying and should be held accountable for that and their lack of actions to rectify the lies made by Raeesah. Simple as that. But making this whole thing into a huge public saga just seems like a move to bring down WP instead. A bit of a low blow I think, I probably expected more poise and dignity from both parties

@NC000C

2 жыл бұрын

@@vonnty how exactly is low blow? Giving wp free pass all he time?!

@weitinggggg

2 жыл бұрын

@vonnty I wonder if you would say the same if it's a PAP MP that lied and WP is hounding them for answer . Don't play double standards pls

Reading comments left, I thought that's a little too over. What is Mr. Pritam Singh good about? Do you guys mean that he is good at defending himself from accusation from Ms. Raeesah Khan and others and pointing fingers on others? Yes, Mr. Pritam might be a silver-tongued laywaer and COP might not do good enough to get the truth people want. However, the keypoint is, does Mr. Pritam Singh, as WP chief, do good enough in dealing with Ms. Raeesah Khan in-appropriate behaviors in parliment? Any room for WP to improve in future and avoid the same thing from happening again? That is not a personal issue. That involves of event handling and election of appropriate candates to represent WP as a member of parliament. That is what a chief should take care of and ensure. In terms of his role and responsibility, he DID NOT DO GOOD enough at all!! Be honest, I don't think the truth will come out easily, because: 1. Ms. Raeesah Khan was so naive that she did not keep any evidence for the promises and suggestions received from Mr. Prtam Singh and others she mentioned; 2. It was not or cannot be handled like a crimical case -- to cross investigates people involved at the same time, to confiscate servers and document to retrieve the meeting minutes, correspondence mails, etc.. Without doing so, with reasonable doubt, WP high-rank members have pleanty of time to be well-prepared and to destroy all evidences if necessary; 3. No politicians in this kind of situation would admit the accusation and turn down the materials requested easily unless he/she has high level of morality standards and would like to resign as a parliment member, destroy the whole party, and start everything from scratch; Basically, without solid evidence, it will be a 'Rashomon' in the end. Those who like WP believe what he said, those who dislike WP believe what Ms. Raeesah Khan claimed, and those with with logical thinking may put it in a reasonable doubt. Everything remained the same as it was before the event.

Twisters and Turners.Well trainef

Raeesah is the daughter of Farid Khan, the president of the Singapore Malay Chamber of Commerce and Industry, who intended to run in the 2017 Singaporean presidential election but had his Certificate of Eligibility rejected.[41][42] Her father is of Pakistani descent, while her mother is of Arab descent. She has a younger brother, Yusuf Khan.[43] Raeesah married Mahadhir Caffoor on 14 July 2018. Together, they have a son and daughter.

Wah like this uh PAP? 😳 PRITAM stay strong bro, don't let this nonsense disturb ur focus

Gibberish questioning by Edwin. Suggesting to rush to the police station to file a complaint when someone lies is Bizarre.

@ssvegeto1610

2 жыл бұрын

Gibberish only cause your simple mind can't comprehend that fact that PS is a dishonest lying who's just trying to protect himself =)

@justingomez4715

2 жыл бұрын

@@ssvegeto1610 Till now there is no evidence to support Pritam lied. Where is the proof ? WP is a threat to the ruling party. Has the ruling party been fair to the opposition parties. Redrawing election boundaries. Select a President not by public choice but by party choice. Is there Equal press & air coverage for all party's ?......... Manipulation is not Democracy.

@coshinc5941

2 жыл бұрын

@@justingomez4715 Why so much non disclosure? They knew the lie by 7 or 8 Aug. Why did they hide it from their CEC and put themselves in the DP. Conflict of interest. And why announce a press conference on the same time as COP. Reason: they can't hide that they knew it was a lie anymore as the cadres are going to testify in COP. Very clear deception

@justingomez4715

2 жыл бұрын

@@coshinc5941 Whoever makes up the lie or lies is owner of the lie or lies. If the ruling party & COP claims to be Purists thats a load of Bullshit. Likewise for Anyone.

@nsevv

2 жыл бұрын

@@ssvegeto1610 where is your proof?? shameless. but... in the end Edwin "'apologised"' and thanked Pritam for bearing with his questioning. Edwin was reprimanded by Pritam on several occasion for asking same question to which Pritam had already given the answer 4-5 times. Edwin even forgot the dates and started scolding himself. Pritam even scolded him for not even understanding the meaning of the word no. Everyone was laughing at Edwin. In summary it was just... Clown Edwin : You like chicken rice? yes or no!! Pritam : There is roasted chicken, steamed, fried chicken rice and I only lik... Clown Edwin :Yes or No! Pritam : ... but... Clown Edwin : Stop... Stop!! don't interrupt me!!! yeeees or noooo!... Pritam : ...

As a viewer, watching this is tiring and punishing to many witnesses. While it is important for transparency in the parliament, its seems like the hearings transgress into a different setting to diminish WP credibility and stir public confidence in the opposition. I think COP has to be fair back to WP. RS is an inexperienced MP and this incident did not happen before for WP to learn from.

@johnchua2159

2 жыл бұрын

Who open up the can of worms might I ask? If there are hidden issues (in this case the integrity of the WP party leaders) then it is right for the COP to bring it up. Do remember it is a WP MP who deliberately lied 3 times in of all places Parliament. Otherwise there is no COP for RS to open a can of worms as far as this case is concerned. What makes it worst is that the WP leaders knew about her lie way before it became public knowledge but chose not to disclose to their CEC members for them to get the full stories before they cast their vote. Albeit the outcome may be the same for RS but the integrity and fairness for RS is in question for WP DP.

@imanvibe7980

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnchua2159 there was no denying that there are indeed lapses in wp and lop in handling the incident. And unfortunately, there is no way PS could not disagree with this mishandling.

@justfair7399

2 жыл бұрын

PS became tamed. He was fumblimg after the break

@skydragon23101979

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnchua2159 So you feel the COP is fair to WP issit?

@rolandhng9322

2 жыл бұрын

@@imanvibe7980 Yes. We know it is tough on WP when RK confess. While they will sympathize with RK, they are forgetting their own roles as LO and MP, it is to uphold the integrity of Singapore. You can sympathize but a timeline must be set for her to clarify and not necessarily in parliament. It cannot be months. PS don’t seem to understand that the allegation is questioning the integrity of SPF. Try explaining it to SPF. Certainly there is also a difference between 1 days or 3 months, try explaining to SPF again. As a LO and MP, that is poor judgement.

Edwing tong is very cunning…. Arrogant…. He act like he is the judge….but thats not his role… he suppose to be friendly…..

Clearly P has not communicate clear to R properly, there is so much "sitting on the fence" conversation to avoid responsibility on Raeesah's untruth. When LPY and YN statements matches, P simply pairs the trio together. There is no reason why LPY and YN will lie. The defensive P has make the session hard to watch. In COP, P could stand up by himself to say "No." yet he waited so long to confront R. It does tell a thing about P's mindset. Being a long time worker's party fan, I am disappointed.

@mycworld6782

2 жыл бұрын

indeed why would LPY and YN lied! PS ( and FM and SL) has added advantages cos they get to see RK LPY n YN video first and prep their defense . PS said RK, LPY n YN are together , so are they. how can a leader of opposition / snr leadership just boh chap ( don’t bother) with no follow up for 2 mths ? so when things happen, let the junior die ! its liken to be if they are my bosses who don’t care if my work/ project need any update for 2 mths at all!

@astctrigo

2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure you're a long time WP party fan? I think he has made clear communication but there was empathy and trust in RK to do the right thing (which in this case she didnt). And both you and I dont know how strong the dynamics of LPY & YN are with RK, so why are you assuming theres no reason theyd do that? I dont think hes being overly defensive, hes defending to protect his party and his members to show he cant be bullied

*When you are already part of an obvious lies your credibility has gone dry so dont even try any harder just own up and come clean*