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The grandmother had somewhat admitted to murder

@Nbell679

3 жыл бұрын

Yes she did! And she smiled! They all make me sick, pretty sure someone should call cps to get the little boy away from the entire family

@jenjen8222

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!! You caught that too

@ConvictedHeartsJenMagana143

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean, the grandmother committed murder as well? Maybe I misread..

@ProntoPronto2

3 жыл бұрын

Yes she did.... pretty awful to know she got away with murder, literally....

Sadly she was told by specialist that her son had these issues & she chose not to listen & take him out of this treatment center. So she is in denial about that. Her own mother told this on the live documentary. So by chance this might had been avoided and she knows it. No she is not responsible for her son actions... but she needs to be honest & tell the truth she was warned

@janismoher9206

11 ай бұрын

Yes. She was told her son had homicidal tendencies but she still brought him home early from the psych hospital. Probably b/c he tricked her into getting him out though. For me, it was when I saw she allowed her son in prison to speak with her new child. Paris and Phoenix needed not have any type of relationship and her responsibility is to protect Pheonix with everything she's got! She seems to be in quite a bit of denial. But...I couldn't imagine facing this. 😳

Have much respect for this woman, she was given such a hard road.

Watching this doco was such a realistic chance to open emotions....watching and trying to put the pieces together i suddenly realized theres no blame....I saw a loving mother...Charity to be of realistic reality that most are sheltered from...it would be great to see a follow up on Paris's growth...Charity your strenght is something i will follow in my life's smallest struggles...i cried for your loss but drew on your underlying strengths...wow...

I'm proud of you!!you are a strong woman and I am very sorry for both your losses.furthermore I've watched you own your mistakes and you are honestly A FIGHTER!and an inspiration to the women in our family

I have a feeling she’s very convincing and manipulative. There were signs Paris had issues and they were huge red flags being ignored. Yes I feel horrible she lost both her kids that day however this could had been prevented if proper steps were taken. Paris made threats before this and the mom knows it. She should had never left Paris alone with the daughter. Ultimately yes this is Paris’s fault but mom needs to be held accountable as well as he was a minor and it was her job to see he got proper mental health and protect the daughter from Paris knowing he had potential to hurt or kill her

@victoriabooth626

2 жыл бұрын

Correct signs were there he needed help nothing was done about it

@janetshroder2799

2 жыл бұрын

She did not leave him alone with his sister the baby sitter was there... He told the sitter to go home...

@sons_of_god1306

2 жыл бұрын

@@janetshroder2799 I am aware she left Paris with a baby sitter but was the babysitter a teen if I recall right? Again the parent should had not left anyone watching over the daughter knowing what Paris was capable of. Yes the mom knew and ignored it probably assuming it would never get to the point of murder or in denial if she knew it could. I’m not at all blaming the mom and I don’t recall where the dad is in all this but I do say mom still has some accountability in this as it was her job to ensure her daughters safety and warning signs were ignored.

@jrb4347

5 ай бұрын

I think when you’re up to eye balls in crazy, violence, addiction you don’t see it in your kids it’s all just normal

Can someone inform Mrs Charity lee that she is very brave and strong, and i think she should meet Kent whitaker for sharing their life. They have big and nice heart as wonderful parent!!!

Great job.

A weak son was born from a strong Mom.

She was told her son had homicidal possibilities 2 months before he did this...and she ignored it.....she has now gone on to make a career out of "forgiving" her son.....deceit runs in the family

I really wish I could speak with this woman. I feel like my family has some on common...

Tragic case may God give this woman strength rip Ella 🙏

Much Respect for this girl xx

@ashleylittle4787

2 жыл бұрын

She's not a girl a woman a mother ty

Luv this lady 💓

I seriously want to know what is up with the whole baby sitter thing.

@Junitunes

3 жыл бұрын

Aparantly her son convinced the babysitter to leave early.

@kristinafawn1766

3 жыл бұрын

No shit

so sad I love this documentery charity should have took her son to go get help as soon as the doctors told her that her son was a psychopath killer her daughter would still be here if only she took heat to what the doctors told her about her son

@ignauciowitherspoon1618

6 жыл бұрын

MISSLOVELYREE they didn't find out until after he did it

@americaneden3090

5 жыл бұрын

@@ignauciowitherspoon1618 no in her documentary she had taken Paris to a treatment facility after he tried stabbing Charity in Nov of 2006. Poor Ella was gone on Feb. 4 2007. One cannot dwell on, if only I would've done this..., its enough to fill a person with inconsolable grief enough to go insane. Of course as a witness to such news the questions fly & the would have, could have, should have done some things all come out but really WHAT HAPPENED HAPPENED and there is NO ESCAPING that reality. These ponderings arent helpful to one going thru the trauma and trying to recover, and just continue on breathing. HAPPINESS JOY AND FORGIVENESS become FORCED concepts to TRY & FEEL, instead of natural emotions bc so much trauma has occurred that these concepts are fleeting and just beyond reach NATURALLY. This is when happiness becomes a choice! A powerful CHOICE! She could've curled up in a ball and cried for eternity hiding from the world, but instead she searches for reasons to feel happy and spread a message that NEEDS to be heard.

@silverbushb448

5 жыл бұрын

@@ignauciowitherspoon1618 You're mistaken. He used to bang his own head against the wall til he bled. He had been diagnosed as homicidal prior to the murder. Notably she was addicted to cocaine during the months leading up to the murder and says she hadn't been present at the home for long periods and had been leaving the kids home alone. Oddly, during some speeches, she does state that he seemed perfectly normal until the murder but in other speeches she does discuss the problems he exhibited including the things I mentioned above.

@breannedixon9712

5 жыл бұрын

Silverbush B Charity is the victim. It sounds like she was struggling with the idea of her son being crazy, and turned to cocaine. That happens to a ton of kids, and they don’t turn to murder for attention. I mean she loved Paris. I couldn’t begin to imagine the internal struggle and coming to terms with your kid being a sociopath. That’s terrifying. I don’t see how anyone would be rational in that situation. I have bipolar 2 and my mom was the same way. She was great, but admitting your kid is technically crazy? No one does that rationally. So many kids at my support groups parents went through the same things; avoidance, denial and drugs.

@SFVnative

4 жыл бұрын

@@breannedixon9712--He's not crazy. Being a psychopath (not a sociopath in this case) isn't a mental illness, it's a personality disorder and it can't be cured or made better. He should have been euthanized as soon as he showed signs of that for the protection of his family and society. I would try to find a way to do it without getting caught if I had a demon kid like that in my family. It would be like killing during war and would be morally justified. Family members and neighbors shouldn't have to be worried about being murdered all the time.

That babysitter is responsible as well. How do you let the child you’re watching to tell you to go home early. That was not cool and you don’t contact the mom to verify that. She should be held accountable too for not doing her job.

@useryt437

3 жыл бұрын

she did better to go because Paris said that he would have killed her too if she was not going away. So who knows what he said to her. From that night he lost control of his moster or wolf that he has inside of him

@sabbathfaith879

2 жыл бұрын

When my parents separated I was 9years old, I had 8yr old sister and 6yr old brother. We had no one I had to step up my game, be a kid and a parent to my younger siblings. One time my brother got very sick, I had to take him to hospital 20km away from home. No money no nothing, the walk was so long with my brother on my back but I never gave up. He had to be ok and as young as I was, I walked 40km just to make sure he survived. The pain the agony the fatigue the hunger the thirst, the harsh weather, crossing a river without bridge nothing weighed me down I knew I had to do it for my brother. I was diagnosed of sickle cell anemia at age of 4. That day due to walking for hours, with no water the sun was so hot my feet so swollen my back aching because I carried a 6yr old boy for 40km the stress triggered my crisis..the pain was like nothing you know. A 9yr old going through all the trouble to save her little brother in some small remote village. I did it and much more. I worked in corn plantations just to make sure I could provide for them. I almost dropped out of school but I couldn't afford to. I was a bright kid and I wanted to change my life. So I struggled to balance being a parent, a kid and a pupil. What am trying to say is, Paris was 13. He was old enough to take care of his 4yr old little sister. The nanny has no fault in this. She didn't know something like this could happen to the girl. She trusted the love that Paris had for his sister and she trusted that he was old enough to watch over her. Cut this nuny some slack for heavens sake it's wasn't her fault. In any case I don't believe it was the first time that Paris was home with his sister alone. What he did is despicable, horrendous and sickening. But it was a pre meditated move. It was a solid plan and he waited for the perfect opportunity to execute this evil plan. Raped, strangled and stabbed his 4yr old sis 19times. Called a friend for 6minutes after it and lied to the police about performing CPR. He wanted that girl dead at whatever cost and even if the Nuny had stayed, trust me he could have found another way to do it sooner or later. He knew no one thought of him as a murderer, he had everyone's trust and that worked to his advantage bkz the Nuny had no clue...if only she could have powers to read Paris mind and know his plans that night, the woman would have saved the little girl's life. She didn't wish for this so let's be human beings for once, let's reason and stop dragging the nunny into this. She isn't responsible for the death. I hope we can all try to fit her shoe somehow and stop judging.

@indiamitchell93

2 жыл бұрын

@@sabbathfaith879 I get all that and I am happy that you came out without killing anyone. However, I am not leaving a 3 year old with her 13 year old brother especially when I am supposed to be baby sitting both of them. She did not contact the mom to make her aware that she was leaving. Like come on now! This woman or whoever she was. Should have thought why do he want me to go home so bad. Then I would have contacted his mom and said Paris is asking me to go home. I am not going to leave kids alone when I am supervising them. It’s no excuse! That was her job to watch the children not leave them. You leave when the parent arrives or until she calls another adult to watch them or get them. I don’t know about how anyone else baby sit kids but Paris would have never been able to tell me to leave he got it. He’s not the boss, he don’t tell me what to do when it comes to being dismissed from his home. If he would have been showing odd behavior to the point he was trying to kill then we would have been fighting in there for me to try and save that baby. I would have called the police immediately. That’s crazy to leave kids you’re baby sitting alone.

Her drug use has to be a factor.

She's talking like a director of a flim rather than talking like a mother. Now I understand why he became a psychopath

@NinjaOutfitInTheWash

4 жыл бұрын

K Covington what the fuck are you on about. Forgot your meds today I think. Both of you sound really stupid and or crazy.

@ninondelenclos9969

3 жыл бұрын

clearly....

@bevbeans3166

3 жыл бұрын

Fully agree

@useryt437

3 жыл бұрын

@@NinjaOutfitInTheWash and you are so intelligent

Poor mother rip daughter

Do we know much about Paris’ father? Psychopathy tends to run in families, though it doesn’t present to the same degree in everyone. I read that Charity’s mother killed her father. She seems like a good mother, I don’t think she’s a monster or that it’s her fault at all. But she does seem less emotional than your average person, maybe her being (way lower down) on the same scale as Paris allows her to understand him a bit more and forgive him a little more easily

@jasminefrichtl806

Жыл бұрын

I don't think she knew the biological father I saw a pride flag in one of the video and before I even saw that video I sence she as a lesbian I'm wondering if she went to a sperm bank and plus you never see a father in the videos

She never says she could have made different choices. I think she should take more blame.

@dalekdx

3 жыл бұрын

I think she has a lot to deal with already and I don't think blaming herself would make things better for her. I was impressed by her when she said she forgave her son and still loves him. A long time ago I saw a woman whose daughter was killed by Ted Bundy that she didn't hate Bundy and I was surprised and it taught me something very valuable. When you hate someone or something the only person who will suffer is the person doing the hating. Being able to forgive someone who has done something terrible to you or someone you love is the smartest thing to do. Hate only hurts the one who is hating and can ruin their lives.

@aslmad1

3 жыл бұрын

@@dalekdx Who is hating? If it were me, and I’m not the only one, I’d mention that I maybe should have reacted to the signs earlier.

@jenjen8222

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. There were signs & a Diagnosis

@K-a-n-d-i-s

2 жыл бұрын

Shes doing the best that anyone in her situation could possibly do. Im sure she has and does take more blame but its not productive thinking like that and shes learnt this clearly. If she was saying she could of made better choices and was crying ect then judgemental people like yourself would then say shes afyer sympathy or something. Poor woman cannot win, she is doing the best she can, better then I could ever do. No one should judge her unless theyve walked in her shoes.

@meganlong4861

2 жыл бұрын

I think she's doing the best she can and I'm sure if she knew her son was a homicidal maniac she wouldn't have let him alone with a 4 year old.

This was a drug addicts that fell back into adddiction when her kids were 2 and 9. I'm guessing there wasnt much care giving, so that prob fell oncthe boy. And now she talks like shes a victim and survirvor?? Sad that her kids didn't survive her.

Okay, with her addiction issues and mental health issues, why have another kid!?? It's so selfish to me...Why allow your son Phoenix to talk to Paris?? That is nuts! Moreover, she never talks about Paris having sex with his sister before he murdered her.

Did she kill her husband

@rob_3417

6 жыл бұрын

Shane Canning no

@FreeJulianAssange23

3 жыл бұрын

I would not doubt it.

@shane-irish

3 жыл бұрын

@@FreeJulianAssange23 2 years ago lol

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CHARITY LEE IS A GIFT TO ALL MOTHERS!!! So many of us, including myself, has struggled or is struggling with children who have mental disorders. It is VERY HARD TO STAND IN OUR SHOES!!! I remember seeing the documentary and thinking... WOW, THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ME!!! There is a LIMIT as to what we can do as parents. There’s a boundary that sadly, we can’t cross with our children, even when our heart and soul wants us to cross those boundaries! Those boundaries are -- Choices!!! We can’t always be there in their spaces and in their minds, to make choices for them! We can take them to therapists, councilors, psychiatrists, and so on. We can give them medications after medications, nothing guarantees their safety or our safety. Genetic mental illnesses are incurable, sadly. For me, my son Leon committed suicide at age16! This happened 12 years ago and it still feels like yesterday. My life became tangled in his life, and the guilt and pain and trauma became such an enormous part of my being. My daughter, at the time was 11 years old. Luckily at the time of his death, she was in Jamaica with her grandma. My son was very jealous of his sister. He told me more than once that he hated her, and that she stole me away from him. I would just brush it off, and see it as normal sibling rivalry and that it would eventually go away. NOT SO!!! for “troubled children” especially with the onset of puberty etc. When Paris talks about “feeling left out”-- I think these feelings has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with to do with his Mommy. These are just feelings of self loathing, insecurities and all the psychological pain that stems from mental disorders. There is a limit as to what the outside influences can do.... As mothers, we go to work, we provide homes for our children, and we do the very BEST WE CAN DO!! Just like Charity, I have my own story that carries the burden of dysfunctional behaviors. My son’s father is a very violent man. I was just lucky to get out of the relationship “alive” --- sadly, these genes can be inherited by their offsprings. Like the detectives told me, on the morning of my son’s death... They kept saying “You have a clean and beautiful home, we haven’t seen any signs of abuse, it has to be something that’s going on his head!” Even though, those words should have liberated me, they did not!!! I carried the guilt of not being able to SAVE him. for years! 😢😢😢😢 I fell into this twisted thinking that “I should have done this or I should have that” --- these unnatural experiences, catapults us into “madness” - and no one on the outside, really understands the magnitude of our suffering! CHARITY, MAY YOU FIND PEACE WITHIN YOUR BEAUTIFUL HEART ❤️ AS.YOU CONTINUE TO SHED LIGHT ON MENTAL ILLNESS IN CHILDREN, AND ALSO ON HEALING 🌸💙🦋 I am sending Love to you and Phoenix 💖💙

Shes like amanda nunez

Charity, why you feel guilty? Must people in this planet are not able to have children. Your son is cruel like his father. You are not the only one to have crazy and sick kids. You need peace. It's not your fault. You are great!

@RoseBlackGothVampire

5 жыл бұрын

as a mother like she is , i can understand why she feel like this, i feel like this also for everything bad my kids may have or do. You are the parent and you must always protect your kids or help your kids. She feel like this because she loved him so much that she can't accept that he had mental problem. She feel like this because if she had the clear mind to put him in a hospital for help before he made that and after he start to show his problems , then she will had a different life and future for her and for her lovely Ella. I am alone with 3 kids, my middle son is 10 and he have ADHS, in the beginning i was like her, i said that yes he is a little aggressive but he is a lovely kid and he have good feelings and he is a victim from other students, so he is aggressive for this reason, but finally i saw him , he have problem and he need help, he is a normal kid and he have high iq, but something in his behavior is not right, so now he is in a special school for kids with ADHS and he have a medicine treatment , in the weekends when he is home with us, i am always worrier for his behavior in his little brother ( 4 years old ) . I have a fear, because i have the feeling that he are jealous about his small brother, and i don't know what he have inside his mind . So, I am always in a worried mood when he is at home. I love him and i feel bad because he is not with us, but I also feel the need to protect others from his so quickly change of behavior.

@staceysmithline3449

5 жыл бұрын

It can only be HER fault! She chose to have him, then have another child & then go abuse drugs again. Why put a young kid with mental health issues in a position of helping raise his half-sis?!! That's crazy! She should NEVER have had any children. She is too dang selfish! She should be held accountable.

@staceysmithline3449

5 жыл бұрын

@@RoseBlackGothVampire what is ADHS?

@RoseBlackGothVampire

5 жыл бұрын

@@staceysmithline3449 he have many problems , mental , behavior and school problems I had mistaken writeit in the first comment, the word is ADHD not with S , anyway the doctor and the teachers also and the psychologist there try to help him to learn more easy and to help him to keep him self calm and how can he react in difficult or stressful situations so he will not be aggressive and also to accept rules etc. I also speak with one psychologist for advice's how we can react to him etc.

Clearly she. Uzt say that otherwise she codnt she ive

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I just watched this documentary. I just want to give the poor mother a HUG. If you weren’t moved or felt empathy for this mom who lost both of her children that night. We can’t judge her. How dare anyone. She grieves her living son. Worst, as she grieves the child he took. It was heartbreakingly hard to get through the first 20 minutes. This mama fought to share her story. I’ve never see a more real and raw honest interview. And if you listened. She is VERY WORRIED. She will forever be. I love her and I don’t even know her. Btw her mother admits to manipulating the jury. Just saying. I personally didn’t like the grandmother and that’s my opinion. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 Idk about Paris. But I’m a mother. Ands she’s fighting for her sons mental health because that’s where preventable measures start.

She's a good mom. Her son is a diagnosed psychopath. There by the grace of god we all go

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