This reminds me of the British saying"I'm too poor for cheap shoes.".

@paulanderson9650

Ай бұрын

Never skimp on anything that separates you from the ground; from shoes to tires to mattresses, no matter how poor you are.

@enemyspotted2467

Ай бұрын

@@paulanderson9650words to live by, especially tires

The company accountant thinks his Audi is the best car in the world because it has soft and nice to touch plastics. So the dozer with more plastics must be better.

@semi.g

Ай бұрын

Audi has leather 🙃

@WowCreativeUsername

28 күн бұрын

@@semi.g Leather glued to plastic

City Dozzer vs that Dozzer she tells you not to worry about.

@brendanmonagle4891

Ай бұрын

LMFAO 🤣😂🤣!!!

“Simplicity is the mark of a genius.” -Plato

They are 'built to a price' is why plastics over steel. And later when its out of warranty you have to buy those plastic bits and switches and controls at a greatly elevated cost

@arakwar

29 күн бұрын

They probably come with a 1 month warranty too.

For those wondering about the cost, I couldn't find for the Tiger Cat, but the Doosan DD100 doozer is around $140k USD for a lightly used model (everything new was "call for price"). The Doosan is priced about the same as used equipment from other manufacturers like CAT or Deere, even those with a dedicated forestry package & a few thousand hours. It's still crap no matter the price point. Can you imagine the small fortune you're going to have to spend in replacing those crappy plastic switches when they get beat on by the guys day in day out?

@TheCaptainSlappy

Ай бұрын

No, but I can definitely imagine how many are gonna be on lots for sale, or out in the pasture, that somebody buys in 15 years, with taped up hand-wiring, baling wire, and lots of O'Reilly or Autozone switches shoved in there and zip-tied to places.

I didn’t know a TigerCat made a dozer!!!!

Your comparing a bargin basement bulldozer with a purpose built tigercat with a forestry package, with brush guards and limb risers.

@scottwall8419

24 күн бұрын

For sure. This isit comparing apples to apples as they call it. If thwy can only make thier product look nice compared to its worse competitor then what happens when they go against CAT or Komatsu. It's not an honest comparison

@EssenceofPureFlavor

20 күн бұрын

​@@scottwall8419It's not an ad. It's a general comparison between cheap and expensive. That's the point.

@scottwall8419

19 күн бұрын

@EssenceofPureFlavor everyone looks good next to cheap though. I saw them compare themselves to a Volvo non purpose-built forestry excavator also. They set a purpose built logger next to General Excavation line from Volvo. Its not very honest number 1 and it's not comparing like to like. I come from this world and I understand he's being brief on tbe features of the doosan and Volvo for a reason. Tigercat is a great brand but they would look better if they stood toe to toe against like machines. Like a line backer creaming some sub hundo dweeb vs holding thier own against Lawrence Taylor. Which is more impressive?

The looks always matter. The question is: What do you want the looks to "say" about a machine. The Canadian one says: "I'm a robust workhorse, I'll get the job done." Seeing bolt's and so on isn't bad as well. Just place them nicely. Make sure they are installed correctly (nice and tight, maybe with a "decorative" washer). Use Quality bolts that won't rust away. This can actually look really nice. It just is a bit more effort then to click-in a plastic panel that will brake on its way out of the factory.

I honestly doubt, that the injection molded plastic is even cheaper than a bolted metall plate.

@the_undead

Ай бұрын

Depends how many are being made. If they've only made 10,000 of those bulldozers then you're probably right. But if they've made a million then those injection multiplastics have probably saved them about $100 per dozer

@samjubilee6593

Ай бұрын

For relatively flat panels with simple shapes, making the injection molds is not that expensive. (Use CAD files to CNC machine or 3D print the molds.) So probably much less than 10,000 units to break even on injection molds. I think it could be more about corporate mentality & forcing customer to buy replacment parts, rather than self repair.

@the_undead

Ай бұрын

@@samjubilee6593 but they would have to be close to the millions in order for it to be a significant cost savings. It's honestly just offensive that any company considers it justifiable to put plastic anything anywhere on a heavy piece of machinery like this

@jonasstahl9826

Ай бұрын

@@the_undead Plastic it self is not the problem, a panel with some buttoms could also be made out of some flat plastic panel with like 2mm thickness, would also be good.

@the_undead

Ай бұрын

@@jonasstahl9826 my issue isn't so much with the durability of plastic, although that certainly doesn't help, my issue is they're using it to try to save their money and make more money off of you later because you will be locked into replacement parts from the company whereas a flat steel panel is not exactly complicated for third parties, also even ignoring the number of suppliers for spare parts, it just makes machinery harder to repair because the plastic panels will use some bespoke mounting solution whereas flat steel panels will use the insanely complicated technology of nuts and bolts

Reminds me of the difference between working on an M915A1 and an M915A3 while in the Army. Especially, on the interior.

Soft plastics are to absorb the forces of an impact, those are crumble zones and keep the driver safe in case on a head on collision against a freight train or cargo ship. lol

@kensmith5694

Ай бұрын

It doesn't look that way to me. Crumple zones are rigid not floppy.

@codyopperman5930

Ай бұрын

What about a bridge?

@kingnull2697

Ай бұрын

@@kensmith5694 I believe this is a rare occurrence known as a "joke"

I'd be curious how the interior sound level and convenience of mounting positions compares between the cabs, that would make more of a difference to me than how it's built or what it looks like. It can be as plastic and plush or tough and rugged as it wants, but if it's loud as shit inside, it's not gonna be a good day

This is why I only drive things older than my mother...

Looks like adjusting valves on that Canadian one would be a piece of cake. :)

Was at the plant when they were testing that thing and it was a beast for its size and im biased but i love the massive working areas they put for all the compartments, the larger loggers and loaders compartment panels are designed as a work platform when its open

Makes me think how easy it was to replace headlight and tailight on my 51 Chevy. Just unscrew the bolts that are obvious on the bezel or lense. These days you need to find the secret hanshake for replacing them. And you don't know if the gasket is cold and stuck, or you didn't unlock everything necessary, so you end up prying while doing the cringe.

What is the price difference?

@the_undead

Ай бұрын

It wouldn't surprise me if the Canadian one was cheaper because it isn't built by a massive name brand. You would probably be surprised how many items all over the world you can get for 10, 20 or even 30% cheaper by buying a non-name brand one which might be made by the same people in the same factory

@flippnorge7105

Ай бұрын

Wondering that too. I believe the Doosan is the DD100 model, and seems the price is 140-150k usd. Can not find any pricing at all on the tigercat

Thanks for the video. I wanted to see a comparison on the price tag for each one as well.

I am no engineer I am no professional builder but that’s what I do for my projects build it stupid strong and then complain about why the fuck I built it to be 200 pounds of solid steel when I only weigh 180

@ToddAdams1234

Ай бұрын

I resemble that remark! 😂 That’s the #1 thing that I loved about my IH 1/2T 4X pickup (until it succumbed to the rust cancer disease that they were prone to). Simple, relatively tough, and would deal with whatever “stupid” actions that a 19yo would throw at it because it didn’t have stupid power, just enough. 😊

In my opinion, the Doosan was designed in favour of cheaper assembly, and manufacturing costs. Doosan is a big company and they assess where to cut costs. On the other hand the tiger dozer was designed with the consideration of a lower manufacturing number. If the Canadian manufacturer would build 100k units instead of 5k they would also go for more plastic and snap and snip mounts.

I ran a doosan diesel forklift (15000lbs) and it was brand new and after a few months all the plastic in the interior fell apart and the screws thay held the plastic cover above the radiator broke as well as the cover broke just from turbulence from driving on the dirt roads in the compound

what is the price difference between the 2? I agree that the Canadian one is better. I was just wondering if you get what you pay for.

How do they compare with price?

Exposed bolts, thick flat plates and accessible internals even look better in heavy machinery, let alone how much better they are practically

What is the price difference between the Doosan and the Tiger Cat?

@the_undead

Ай бұрын

The tiger cat is probably cheaper but I'm sure you could find prices on Google if you tried hard enough

@willcresson8776

Ай бұрын

From what I could find, a used Tigercat is roughly what the Doosan is new. ​@the_undead

@the_undead

Ай бұрын

@@willcresson8776 would you mind providing some sources for that?

What’s the price difference ?

engineers: bolts and screws in the cab look ugly, the aesthetics are most important we want you to feel like youre driving a high end car me as a mechanic who hates interior work most of all: "wipes tear from eye" its beautiful.

TURN YOUR CAMERA THE OTHER WAY! ..............THANKS!

I think its because one dozer is made for forestry and to work in the bush in such conditions, while the other is just meant for lighter duty construction work...

Now if they only do this by making them more sold for semi trucks lol. Good short video. Yeah rather have sold built dozer then crappy plastic. There too much plastic used today In everything. Cars/trucks/semi trucks/heavy duty and in tech.

Never heard of the company Tigercat. Only Tigercat I knew of was manufactured by Grumman.

@jasonmoor1230

Ай бұрын

Look into them, if you're in the market I think you will be impressed.

What percentage more do you pay for the Tiger Cat?

Yes Canadian made!!!

Better call United rentals out here in California for POS equipment like the first one

Ohhh my that's nice , now tell me it has no fukin computer and i have one .

It's not about where it's made. it's about the integrity behind the company. Garbage can be made anywhere, and quality can be made anywhere. it's just about if a company is willing to put their money where their mouth is

It didn't even look better...

>Canadian >Toughness Pick one or the other 😂

Obviously the loose plastic is for the aerodynamics

I know which one I'd choose if I happened to have a disagreement with my local government.

Yeah but reliability, parts/service, etc are more important imo.

Notice you conveniently left out price. I bet that TigerCat is almost double the Doosan, which is an entire separate discussion.

What company’s think men want: plastic garbage What men really want: a machine built for adult sized children (crude but indestructible)

Pretty soon Chase will be barned from filming @ the trad shows.

but if it looks good.. it will sell lots to the people in the office who've never gotten dirty or sweated a day in their life. #thewaytheworldworks101

Isn't that ironic our governments want us to eliminate plastic but we see more and more of it in manufacturing?

Damn skookum and sexy?

Chace, you're conflating ROPS with the brush sweeps. Uninformed viewers, ROPS, Roll Over Protective Structure, it's integrated into the operator's cab. NOT the bars over the engine bay.

One of these is a toy. The other is for work.

Top of the line model vs a value model... weird

Well like they say "you get what you pay for" that Canadian dozer will last a man 40+years you no !!! You may pay a bit more but look at what you are getting!!! That cheap Dusan dozer will be lucky to make it 10 years,and what's that cheaper dozer going to coast you in repairs !!! And how long will you have to wait for parts from China or where ever!!! And if you don't work on your self who is going to !!! Where your dozer, the company is right down the road,and they will be there to get you going by lunch time !!! That right there speaks volume and the little bit of extra coast !!!! Just say'n!!!! 😊❤!!!!

@TechNaOkami

Ай бұрын

Why are we yelling

@silvesterpeel5379

Ай бұрын

OI, THIS IS YELLING. No idea what !!! This is abut.

Skookum is a word Canadians should stop using.

Skookum... Seems like someone else watches AvE

@my_channel_44

Ай бұрын

It's a common expression, like 'eh'.

@niftytheviking

Ай бұрын

Ave is from BC as well, a lot of BC folk use that expression.

@my_channel_44

Ай бұрын

@@niftytheviking Eh?

@niftytheviking

Ай бұрын

@@my_channel_44 Ooh fuk yah, bahd!

We have a Case tractor from early 2010?? and a Doosan tractor around 2020...... which tractor do you think most staff prefer to run? The doosan is cheap feeling and uncomfortable as F**K.

youre comapring two entirely different classes of machines. you have a forestry dozer compared to a low ground pressure dozer meant for finish grading. the develon/doosan is a cheap brand too so yeah the interior is going to be chintzy and cheap.

Function not fashion

I mean it's a doosan it can't do actual work

Both of those have horrible visibility. Two huge pillars in your face and one tiny skinny window? No thanks I’ll go CAT

In all fairness you compared it to a Doosan and they are junk no matter what industry you are in