But the aerodynamics are much worse on the Canadian machine. And the interior doesn’t look as modern. Both absolutely crucial when you’re working in a forest.

@invisibilianone6288

2 ай бұрын

😶...............😂😂😂😂😂

@wayneswonderarium

2 ай бұрын

Gotta remember the top speed too - I bet that Volvo goes like 3.1 mph vs 3.099 mph! 😅

@bullithedjames937

2 ай бұрын

❤😂😊

@plainText384

2 ай бұрын

The size and aerodynamics might matter when you are transporting it around with a semitruck or ship or whatever. The company building the log loaders probably doesn't need to do too much maintenance themselves, but they do need to ship the vehicles to the buyer or dealership. So, being able to fit one extra unit onto a ship might look quite attractive.

@barkobama7385

2 ай бұрын

Gonna need those curved windshields or it'll really kill it's quarter mile time

Whoever designed this machine must have worked closely with the operators, or is an operator themselves.

@VTX00128

2 ай бұрын

Or have been a mechanic themselves this is a way well thought out and designed for easy to get to work with not to mention it's probably easier to assemble during manufacturing.

@the_undead

2 ай бұрын

​@@VTX00128they could have also just been the person that does the inspection, I got frustrated trying to inspect all these other machines and decided "you know what, why don't we just make everything that easily accessible so that I can do my damn inspections in less than 30 minutes"

Makes you daily inspections way easier too, beautiful machine.

That's the difference between purpose made and adapted machines. You do make good video's Chase, to the point.You know much more about all thing logging than any general view is there any chance you could do a longer vid on some of the other machines? Thanks for what you do, it helps us get an insight in what else you do. Best wishes from UK.

Skid steers and pickups should also flip open their engine bays.

Norwegian built Brøyt Machines had a similar solution to the canadian built machines that are shown here. Sadly Brøyt went into a merger with volvo sof some sorts and the style, some of the technologies and sadly most of the service-ability went away not long after the merger. (Brøyt was also the first in europe (maybe even the world) to use electronic controls on the joysticks in an excavator)

The Eltec is made to be maintainable out in the field. The Volvo looks like it needs a fully equipped shop.

4 ft wider x2 the transport cost - its application dependant

Field repairable vs freight it cross country to an "authorized repair shop"

The volvo is made to run on worksites and then needs to be more compact, the Canadian one looks bigger. Why would you need to lift the whole hood for regular maint? If it is a big job just unbolt the panels... Also I never understood why you prefer to use excavators instead of regular harvesters. Is it the terrain?

The Cats and Volvo's are hard to work on by design...the factory is throwing a bone to the dealers, and making it so machine owners will take the machine to the dealer for repair. They are big enough now with global markets, that they absolutely do not care about the businesses that run in remote areas. I can afford a new pickup truck, and recently, I purposefully bought a 1994 with a cast-iron inline 6-cylinder specifically because I can work on it myself if I have to. I paid my local mechanic to put new synthetic fluid in the diff and manual transmission even though it cost me $150 more than if I did it myself, but if he retired, I could do it myself if I had to. The whole truck is like that, and I cannot work on the new ones.

@suprestoner

2 ай бұрын

I know what you mean mister, I got a 93 with the 5.8, and I can do everything to it myself. I've done diff swaps, transmission and transfer case has been changed it was an original tower of power truck which I swapped to a 5.8 myself. Simple and easy to work on. You'll never see that from a dealership again! Everything is designed to be brought back to the mechanic so they can charge you 150 plus an hour in labor which is thievery if you ask me!

@guseks8413

2 ай бұрын

Who the hell loads their excavator and drive it to a shop for service? Atleast in Sweden it is mostly mobile service. Biggest reason you cant do shit yourself is because emission regulations have made all engines so complex.

@ronroberts110

2 ай бұрын

@@guseks8413 The mobile heavy equipment repair truck always makes sure the work bid is 10% lower than shipping the machine back to the dealer. They are expensive!

Which one you choose probably depends on what kind of logging job is being done. If it is a smaller job and shorter time or far out in the forest for months at a time.

This original video was the first I watched, after subscribing.

For construction the size of the machine often matters. It is not rare to be working in tight spaces and thus why everything needs to be compact. But with that not being as much of an issue in forestry thus the purpose built vs adapted.

Whats the Price difference? That what everybody seems to look at unless they're the ones running and maintaining the machine

@Fallouttec

2 ай бұрын

The funny part is I’m pretty sure that Volvos more expensive too.

@Zach-ju5vi

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I want to know the price difference.

I've never heard of Eltec before, but that's sweet.

The compact design makes sense for working around buildings. The forestry machine doesn't need to worry about space

@scottwall8419

Ай бұрын

Exactly tell a construction guy that he'll need to make sure and park his excavators and extra width apart so that can swing that entire hood over the top every day for daily checks. Volvo you can do all that standing on the ground from 4 cabinets. They aren't comparing apples to apples, Volvo makes a purpose built foresty exc with walkways around the outside, brackets where the entire top of the engine or DEF system swings out. High straddle road model undercarriage. If they new the full offering of Volvo then this video doesn't make them look to knowledgeable about thier opponents offerings.

That yellow one is exeption because it's volvo. Dont know much about volvo excavators but when they make cars you don't need to acces engine because there is nothing wrong with it.

Nicely done !!!!

Proud Swede here! That Canadian machine looks f*cking brilliant.

If eltec ever gets into construction equipment they're going to do pretty well in the market. I should also add though they'd only do well if they can find a way to make the machines light enough while still keeping all those features

What a beautiful piece of kit

That's badass!

Funny thing is eltec is Volvo's logging equipment line that was sold kinda like saying cat is junk compared to weiler

@klassensj2

2 ай бұрын

13 years ago. Thats a lot of r & d time, not to mention the guy that bought it was a 3rd generation logger. Tons of corporate knowledge there.

Could you do a video of Canadian purpose built equipment agg, SHD trucks, heavy equipment etc?

As much as I love my Hitachi and John Deeres, I absolutely adore the Madills I’ve run. Heavy duty, robust, simple, reliable, and mechanic friendly

That machine is very well laid out for servicing

Ship that lives at sea vs. boat that comes back to a boathouse with a lift and a railroad into the heated dry shop with 360° scaffolding at the service level and cranes to get things out of the way.

NICE MACHINE

Another great example of a machine designed with input from the people using it. Not by the accounting and arts department.

The only concern is having something get dropped onto the equipment! But that isn't an issue in a properly surveyed work environment

@colinwallace5286

2 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure the Eltec will be just fine, unlike the tin Volvo.

I think mining excavators have more room than this.

Looks like the designer of the Canadian one might have some experience working on heavy equipment.

But whats the price difference. I'm all for buy Canadian but if are paying double then you can see where companies will spend their money.

@suprestoner

2 ай бұрын

And some of these companies that run junk equipment or under why they go through mechanics like crazy. Think about that for a second. I'd rather spend the extra 50 or 60 Grand to keep my mechanics happy

@quarlow1215

2 ай бұрын

@@suprestoner oh I get ya. I personally would spend the extra also. But the average company has to save where they can. I've always said these things are too damn hard to work on. You need to be a bloody contortionist to fix anything. As we get older it gets harder and harder to do it so your option is to pay someone to do it for you. Now it cost you more because he has a tough place to get into. Make it easy access and you can do more of it yourself and if you need a mechanic your cost is less because there easier to work on.

@Zach-ju5vi

2 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@Zach-ju5vi

2 ай бұрын

​@@suprestonerthe other machine is not 50k worse, just unbolt the panels. Price is the reason why I won't by a versatile tractor, it's just not that much better.

Uhh one is designed with things like size, swing, profitability, speed and ease of manufacture in mind another is designed to be robust and easy to work on. One can be worked on by a dealer network all over the world a while another can be worked on by any HD mechanic in the world.

The only thing worse than working on a Volvo is a Wacker Neuson.

Needs more plastic detailing, don’t you think?

But they will put a gaming chair in the Volvo.

I like both

Plus Canadian machines have a catch bucket under the seat for when your balls freeze off you know where they went

Canadian built logging machines are always better to work on and operate... Machines that are just adapted to log are just pain all around

Canadian Engineers must not be in a F.U. Struggle with mechanics, like American engineers are

More roomy than your average Vancouver apartment!

I've had ship Diesels on 40 footers that were easier than Volvos or Cats...

Which one was designed by a mechanic

Inaccessible , restrictive, awkward designs of some machines have the wonderful ability to irritate the 💩💩💩 out of many people.

Volvo is made to not break down and mostly sold places they have good suport teams that know how to fix them. But canada gear looks and must be very old fashion compared to scandinavian logging tech

We all know things in Canada are made better, we just don’t build enough. Buy Canadian!

Stop kidding yourself there's only one true Craftsman in Canada and his name is Matthias Wandel. 😂😂