Fed up hearing about the Maori The government are not racist just because the Maori party are not getting their way they call everyone racist

@chriskiwi2601

6 ай бұрын

100% dead right.

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you

@user-mc6js8or3r

6 ай бұрын

Institutionalized racism against n Maori PI

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

I can admit tepatai Maori party are stocking division, and it's your right to believe it's a one sided thing and only we're to blame.

@JG-us9lu

6 ай бұрын

Maori Moaners

No one is stopping Maori keeping their langauge alive. Keeping English as the foremost langauge on hospital, roading and council signage is a safety issue, especially with regard to the mental health of the majority of the country..

@jeremyashford2145

6 ай бұрын

A reminder here that the written Maori language was created by Christian missionaries, and the standardised, homogenised, history-denying Maori language used by officialdom was created by one regional group at the University of Auckland in the early 1990s at the expense of other regional Maori groups individually and at the expense of the diversity of Maori culture as a whole. It is not an organic development of a living language but a late twentieth century corporate invention. Not only that but it was done in such a way as to be alien to both English and Maori alike. As Maori did not traditionally have letters (just sounds) English writers did not use accents, whatever names you wish to give them. The official bureaucratic Maori language is elitist. For the record, Otago and Akaloa are Maori words and the letter h was officially added to the spelling of Wangarei in 1896, for the benefit of the mail service (as reported in the NZ Herald, specifically because Wangarei and Wanganui look the same in cursive script) and had nothing to do with pronunciation. If you were to have excessive cortisone injections in your lips and try to say Wangaree you would be making the best approximation possible to the name as spoken by local Maori on first contact. Few Maori today have the facial features required for that original pronunciation because interbreeding with Europeans has changed their physical form.

@purefoldnz3070

6 ай бұрын

exactly and only 7% can fluently speak it, so all it is at the end of the day is meaningless tokenism

@dsjjvfdjkdd

6 ай бұрын

@@purefoldnz3070 Lol - you're dreaming. Maybe 0.7%

@purefoldnz3070

6 ай бұрын

@@dsjjvfdjkdd nope

@ronnymcdonald2543

6 ай бұрын

@@jeremyashford2145 Im nicking this for future reference and use matey - Very well written cheers

Not our job to honor his mum or dad , that's his look out

I grew up in the 90's being told by the Maori around me that te reo "wasn't mine" that I should "stop disrespecting it by pronouncing it wrong" and that I should "stop trying to steal reo from Maori" then suddenly, 20 years later Maori are asking "why can't you speak it?!" Lol.

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

Hahahaa good job woke dickhead

@jeremyashford2145

6 ай бұрын

Maori was on the curriculum at my son’s primary and while classes were held regularly teaching the language was not a priority, just indoctrination. I know of people who have gone to Maori language classes with the best of intentions only to be punished for simply being white. That was in the 2000s. And despite the lack of assistance from his teachers my boy’s pronunciation of Maori is beautiful. He is as white as can be (zero Maori blood) but every one of his school friends was Maori, scholarship students mostly in a private highschool.

@debaston7158

6 ай бұрын

@@jeremyashford2145 Wow we had the exact same experience for my son & again he too picked up the language easily & spoke it beautifully.

@StGammon77

6 ай бұрын

Yeh it's ridiculous how they find fault in everything about us, do Christians harass people about not pronouncing Christmas accurately?

@saxdearing3395

6 ай бұрын

Yes, I've had similar experiences, while at the same time English is butchered. Quite humorous really, eh bro?

Legislate that Maori cannot buy tobacco to solve their health concerns over new law changes. LOL, best comment of 2023.😂 or if that doesn't fly, try personal responsibility.

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

So you want one law for all ....but your willing to make exceptions? ...

@Millektm

6 ай бұрын

Mmmmm ? Funny I thought smoking was voluntary , agree , how about some personal responsibility.

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

@@Millektm or is it an easy 7billion tax grab you can blame on the people, like car wreaks an stuff, funny how seat belts are mandatory ... should be able to buy an exemption with that personal responsibility logic, and I'll tell you this for free, ... if it made this government 7billion dollars seatbelt exemptions would be a thing too. Didn't think kiwis were so American at the mere mention of freedom and democracy. Could probably start a chant imaginan how big shot sht-hot, baller we'll look🤩 NEW-Z-LAND!🫡 NEW-Z-LAND!🫡 NEW-Z-LAND!🫡 ...as if 🤦‍♂️😒

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Legislation being repealed was for ALL New Zealanders but the only way to stop this peal back is via the Waitangi Tribunal but the outcome is for *shock horror* ALL New Zealanders - even you stupid racist ones

@valeriehughes1008

6 ай бұрын

Spot on!

bloody hell, you couldn't get more racist than the Maori party,

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Of course you can - KKK

@Timetofly8888

6 ай бұрын

100%. I had the "pleasure of sitting in on a Maori Heath board creation meeting some years ago and the amount of blatant racist, divisive, Pro separatist language being used by a small noisy minority in the room of 300ish that day was eye opening and would in no wayway be tolerated by media or others if came from whitey !

I don't think Buddy has thought out his positions.

@AmonAnon-vw3hr

6 ай бұрын

No need to think when you can simply wave your hand, declare something "racist" and move on lol.

@TerrorballNoise

6 ай бұрын

@@AmonAnon-vw3hr Yes, it's a sad state of affairs.

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

​@@AmonAnon-vw3hryou just waved your hand, declared him a probable simpleton and moved on ...did you think about that mr glass house?...

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Something you just love to do@@AmonAnon-vw3hr

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

There was in fact considerable debate and this was the only legal recourse available to say ALL NZ Nationalities but as per usual you hear anything Maori and immediately assume it is just for Maori if your ears weren't so full of racist cotton wool along with your brain, you would've heard this is for the ultimate benefit of ALL Kiwis - though I wish he would stop trying to help you racist white people

"Thats your maori privelege, right there... You have an avenue of complaint open to you purely because of the colour of your skin." Mic drop!

@debbiestaite3184

6 ай бұрын

There's your ego - mic drop

@AmonAnon-vw3hr

6 ай бұрын

And buddy just dismisses it lol.

@purefoldnz3070

6 ай бұрын

race card or the uno reverse card.

@StGammon77

6 ай бұрын

And they are funded for lawyers its a fake gravy train

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Wow you are an idiot - Doctors of ALL nationalities are saying this is dumb - but the only LEGAL recourse available is via the Waitangi Tribunal - Maori Kaumatua are willing to take the flack and pay for this fight knowing that any win via the Waitangi Tribunal benefits ALL nationalities dummy

I still call it Mt Egmont

@gruntabro1

6 ай бұрын

And there’s Egmont Honey with a picture of Mt Egmont on the label 🎉

@bronwynsearle2117

6 ай бұрын

Yes so do I, beautiful Honey 🍯 too must be in the name 😊

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

That's why people still know your a racist

@olliemoose2020

6 ай бұрын

Same here, and Stuart Island will always be Stuart Island not Oban.

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

We do too...

Good point there Sean. If someone wabts to frame it as 'maori smoke more therefore not banning tobacco results in more maori deaths therefore the government won't ban tobacco because they are racist' then just ban maori from buying tobacco. Obviously its not about race. Its about individual autonomy and preventing a black market. But people don't want to admit that because then they lose the ability to assert 'racism'

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

Who cares

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

Make your mind up- one law for all, or laws geared for the nuance of life and living...

@valeriehughes1008

6 ай бұрын

Maori, like every other ethnic New Zealander must take responsibility for their own life outcomes.. this is the truth of the matter.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Your so busy being racist that you missed the whole point he was saying. The only avenue open to try to stop the role back of the smoke laws is via the Waitangi Tribunal. If you listen he was clear that was there another avenue he would take it in order to help ALL cultures. You are giving him flack because he is trying to help. He ISN'T just helping Maori - but it is the only legal way to try and repeal. You so racist you assume whenever we use this option it is for the betterment of Maori but it is because NZ doesn't allow a court of appeal for these types of political actions. All you see and hear is colour, despite the fact that Matua Mikaere is a really kind and gentle man who is getting all sorts of flack for utilising the NZ legal system for the betterment of all NZ nationalities - So much racist ignorance

@Tanias112

6 ай бұрын

Oh, bs. This not banning tobacco has nothing to do with the Maori smoking more or black market, it's all to do with how much money they will make out of it, they don't give to hoots about the average NZer. encouraged

I’m Maori and I’m loving the change this government has started to implement. Thank god they god in! I don’t even know why Maori have a problem with English name with Maori along side, that’s all good 👍

@GaryPeters-nv8pj

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, same here mate. Especially Winnie. Better times ahead I reckon.

@valeriehughes1008

6 ай бұрын

So correct... as it has always been in the past with the use of both languages - before the activist elite and the TeReo industry started making this into their own little war on NZ for their own agenda (fattening their pockets and puffing up their egos).

@user-uo7vf3ne9w

6 ай бұрын

Goes both ways y would anyone have a problem with maori names with pakeha beside it, im a national voter but have been shocked at the anti anything maori, even to re visit the treaty , The bloody countrie is in economic ruins and what do we get? We dig in to maoridom.And where should it stop, shall we change mount taranaki back to mount egmont? Shamefull !

@valeriehughes1008

6 ай бұрын

@@user-uo7vf3ne9w You can thank the racist hate spewed by TPM for this push back from Maori & European alike.... Labour and its Maori Elite totally wiped out the past we once knew where we shared our lives and lived together - we always had both languages side by side but English first so the majority knew where they were going! From what NAT/ACT/NZF say only the government departments are to be changed back into English. No one is suggesting Mt TAranaki goes back to Mt. Edmont. - think you are just having a wee stir here!!! Even majority of Maori agree with government departments have to be named in English! All the venom and hatred is being stirred up by TPM - shame on them... they only represent 2.3% of Maori and from all the posts I read they are even loosing that support.... no one benefits from the racist nonsense they bring down on all innocent Maori.

@valeriehughes1008

6 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you! Just return us to what we always had.. both languages side by side.. English first so the majority know where they are going!

Buddy sounds pathetic.

@GaryPeters-nv8pj

6 ай бұрын

Because he is.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

So do you

The renaming of NZTA to ....... was not opened to public debate. It was arguably never officially renamed so its not a name change. No not everyone refers to it but it 'new' name. It NZTA always has been if you want a debate lets talk about what justification there was to change it from NZTA

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

It was the MOT when I was young nobody made this stink when it wasn't

@slegin

6 ай бұрын

@@myresponsesarelimited7895 Ministry Of Transport different to NZTA. There is one thing changing the name, agency and ministries do it all the time, do they need to change language. On example is Social Security became Department of social welfare became WINZ became MSD and no one made a stink. People question the point of renaming NZTA but no kicked up the type stink coming from the opposition. Governments change names of things all the time, they all feel they have to 'leave their mark'

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

@@slegin do you not remember the white backlash around the time of the 4wd tax, you think the SHOVING IT DOWN OUR THROATS 😭 narrative just fell out of the sky? ...you obviously don't list to talkback. There is racism from white people too, luckily the national front dwarfs the Tepatai Maori Party. I thought nz was becoming more racially integrated, and that by the time my generation were the boomers- that rubbish would be done with, I've seen and heard over the past few years that indigenous English are a more palatable Australian, and that my idea of social harmony between us was wildly optimistic.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

So then why can't you just leave it as Waka Kotahi - why you making such a stink about it@@slegin

Got to say Buddy's victimhood knows no bounds, I wish folk like him would stop being puerile about this stuff and use commonsense reasoning, it's not all about me me Maori me, it's about kiwis and our country as a whole for God's sake.

@stephenc8956

6 ай бұрын

Using reasoned argument is white man's (colonist) speak. I'm not completely joking either. I've come across that argument more than once, in my time on social media, being used by some Maori..

@rod-contracts1616

6 ай бұрын

​@@stephenc8956yeh, man landed on the moon coming up for 60 years ago yet some still operate on touchy feely nonsense instead of sound logic, and especially science, maths and literacy.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Your racist knows no bounds - your listened with racism not ears - there is no legal avenue open to stop the smoke free repeal EXCEPT the Waitangi Tribunal - If it can win in the Waitangi Tribunal then the government can't roll it back so ALL nationalities will continue to have the restrictions they have had for the past few years. But typical arrogant, ignorant racist you can't hear the reasoning. IT IS THE ONLY LEGAL OPTION AVAILABLE FOR USE IN THIS MATTER

@jasperhorace7147

6 ай бұрын

Too many Māori have become professional victims. Let’s all look back to 1906 or 1840 or whenever maori claim to have been victimised. Apart from throwing money at it, history cannot be changed. Time to look forward.

@stevehughes1510

6 ай бұрын

@@jasperhorace7147 It's a huge gravy train Jasper and very lucrative for those who control the ebb and flow of it all I would imagine. The infighting within Maori would be horrendous, they would be pulling apart greatly as a result I think, it's always been a tribal thing with them.

Wow,Sean,you nailed it,privalege through the color of their skin.Thats what this is about full stop We need a contitution that states all citizens are equal,all rules and legislation are for all citizens,NO privaleged people’s.Then maybe parliament can moved forward without this repetition of How is this going to effect Māori and Pacifica

@matakitaki1

6 ай бұрын

Thats just rubbish, Take an effort to learn new literature and terms. Language changes all the time and to remove it because people feel its not relevant is clearly bigotry

@madgiecool

6 ай бұрын

We already have this. Article 3 of the treaty; "..same Rights and Privileges.."

@suphraphonic

6 ай бұрын

we had it before the communist infestation six years ago ' One Person One Vote '

@matakitaki1

6 ай бұрын

@@suphraphonic What makes you think you are not communist?

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

What you mean is that you want all Maori and Pacifica people to cow down to you White Authoritarians and do what you say, when you say, how you say..that's called slavery. Why you are choosing to bring Pacific people into this issue just proves that you have issues with anything non-white...something I am sure your local dairy owner & takeaway owner are already well aware of. Stop being a closet white supremecist

Buddy doesn't seem to be able to distinguish between education and indoctrination.

@rocky6180

6 ай бұрын

Might have been that trip to the deep south of America and meeting the KKK , he told us about once before, ill bet he didn't Kia ora them .

@rickoshea9913

6 ай бұрын

Bet he uses his Gold card & race card in possibly equal amounts...nah! Maybe not.?

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Just like you are unable to distinguish between no legal recourse and utilising the Waitangi Tribunal as a legal recourse for the benefit of all NZer's but hey drag a genuinely nice man thru the mud -

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Actually he did, he is not and never has been a coward or anything other than his authentic self - stop dragging a good man down@@rocky6180

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Every super annuitant has a gold card so he is as legally entitled to use it and as for his "race card" he doesn't need to, anyone who has studied or researched NZ history will afford him the respect he deserves. @@rickoshea9913

At. one stage Buddy said HE was strapped for speaking Maori, then he said his parents were. He is slightly younger then I am, and I went to a school in the Far North, and I NEVER saw kids being punished for speaking maori. I never heard it spoken either. This was from 1949 through the fifties.. Smoking is a matter of choice. not legislation.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Didn't see it or don't remember because it wasn't your butt and legs....

Most reasonable people are not opposed to Te Reo but in the reality and truthful honest context of this country it need to be supplemented with the English language/version and that said I support the government moving back to the English version first followed by the Te Reo on government departments. No one I’ve heard has suggested removing Te Reo and neither do I but we have to face FACTS this is predominantly a country where English is spoken to converse day to day in the public sphere and that’s not going to change. I see no issues with Te Reo being taught at all levels of education but ONLY voluntarily but there should also be other options too like Mandarin or French or Spanish or German because in a world view, out there travelling Te Reo will absolutely pointless unlike the aforementioned languages. Common sense and owning up to ACTUAL REALITIES is what a government should work with and legislate for, not this woke, warped sense of reality which what most governments seems to be pushing onto the constituents these past 3 - 4 decades at least growing ever worse with every leftist government in particular elected along the way. This government has corrected some critical mistakes made be Adern’s quite frankly dictatorial and fascist reign but it’s early days yet and there’s been some what I consider to be mistakes made already too but in general we’re definitely heading in a better direction…

Good on Buddy for joining the show. I think it is good that he joins the conversation. I guess the long and short of it is our recent election was a referendum on the future of New Zealand and the majority of New Zealand voters want less Maori influence their day to day lives and this includes questioning the meaning of the treaty and the legitimacy of the Maori seats under the MMP electoral system.

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

Well said!

There is absolutely nothing stopping those of Maori descent speaking Maori amongst fellow speakers if they choose to. But this has little to do with "keeping the language alive", and everything to do with pushback and anti-establishment sentiment.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Says who - Many Maori have always spoken their language - but thanks so much for giving us your personal thumbs up to continue to do so. What is anti-establishment about making signage for all New Zealanders instead just the white one's.

@JamesClark-cg1qk

6 ай бұрын

it's about virtue signalling, not "signage for all". @@2wahineandadog

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

No it's not, it's signage for all you just can't see past the chip on your shoulder - you make it such a big deal when it's just signage - why cause such a fuss@@JamesClark-cg1qk

The race based identity politics of the Labour/Greens coalition where EVERYTHING was about race made me want to leave New Zealand. It was a toxic damaging ideology. With the change of govt I have some hope for the future.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

If that was the only thing you saw wrong with the Labour/Greens coalition then you may as well leave

@valeriehughes1008

6 ай бұрын

I think the nation would be better off you you left! You have a very racist attitude! @@2wahineandadog

@overover..

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

Well said!

So what about the laber party giving Maori's special rights and treatment. That's s racist. You're getting special privileges based on colour. There is the definition of racism

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Belittling someone because you are jealous and get away with special privileges because of your skin colour is definately racist

The strap was a punishment at primary, then the cane at high school. This was not dished out racially. All teaching was in English, spoken and written. All other communications, including gibberish, which my mates were well versed in , got punished. Why would anyone with an once of common sense think the maori language would be allowed.

@magingi

6 ай бұрын

This is true and much more so regarding Te Reo in that the Maori vocabulary was very limited, ie very few words compared to English. 'It'(strap) was not done as a racist punishment, it was done because it had been determined that learning English was in their best interest too. Not that I consider strapping good.

@dsjjvfdjkdd

6 ай бұрын

Yep - and context is very important. Maori parents & chiefs sent the kids to school and expected them to learn english. This was at a time where kids were caned for not pulling their socks up.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Hmmm because it was an official language in this country, spoken by a portion of this country, because it is the only unique language of this country... Why would anyone with an ounce of common sense think the Maori language was a problem for anyone but racists?

@waynekilgour393

6 ай бұрын

@@2wahineandadog I agree , All the country was racist. No written language, but we all should have learnt this.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Agreed everyone was protecting their way of life - however the Maori tried to learn the English way and many English learnt the Maori way too because we all lived together - Very few small nations had a written language@@waynekilgour393

just another trougher

'Attack on Te Reo'? Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they simply putting 'Waka Kotahi' under the more widely understood English name? Swap-sies. I am 5th generation NZ'er. I know 'Waka' is a boat. But I can't tell you what 'Kotahi' means. I don't know what the ciggies stuff is all about. But it is a cliche globally to play the victim and blame European people for everything. It is a multi billion dollar industry.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

That's the wierd thing, there are little Asian, Pacifica, South African kids at school who know what a waka is - why the hoopla

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

Mari often forget about the benefits that have come with colonization by the British....would they have preferred the Japanese?

Quitline has provided nicotine replacement therapy for free since 2000. Its available to anyone who smokes including maori and it works

Exactly, there are more important things the government should be focused on other than this never-ending racist discussion fixated on policies related to maori. The actual number of these people pushing this agenda is quite small.

You can't compare NZ to the likes of Wales and Ireland regarding language. Indoctrination and language targets is a cause of devide. Let it naturally grow which it has already. Labours ego blew this up

@stephenc8956

6 ай бұрын

The way it's used in NZ, English is its foundation. A kind of pidgin Maori/English. Not many can string a sentence together in fluent Maori without chucking in some English. And it's use without translation just disconnects and causes unnecessary (but probably intended) discombobulation..

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

You would look less like an ignorant racist if you at least had your facts right. It's funny that you don't see it from any perspective but your own. @@stephenc8956

Forcing people to learn a language never works,the Māori party needs to stop the racial behaviour

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Yes it does the NZ Government forced the Maori to learn English I don't recall you arguing then - the next generation don't want to be segregated - it is clear the issue is yours not their

@mattheweden-pc5pk

6 ай бұрын

The Māori leaders back in the 1920 learn English so that Maori can integrate with rest of Nz that is what happened our history @@2wahineandadog

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Again you point is incorrect - our Tupuna learnt English to ensure the trading was understood and fair to both parties - Maori were intelligent enough to know that some disagreements were bound to come up and the Rangatira knew it fell on their shoulders to be the go between. Same reason that many Colonists learnt Maori. But it was never learnt so that Maori could integrate with the rest of the country - it was learnt because it was legally forced upon the Maori. If you are going to state knowledge of a Maori situation at least do your research@@mattheweden-pc5pk

Quite a few years back I worked at a company where Buddy was Personal Manager and his racist attitude was a bit of a joke, doesn’t sound like he’s changed much.🤔

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Weren't you the guy who got fired for stealing stock out of the warehouse

@mikeholling8830

6 ай бұрын

⁠I should take you to court for that rubbish. You’ve obviously a very stupid and silly person.

Te Pati Maori are racist towards the general public

@GaryPeters-nv8pj

6 ай бұрын

You mean Tea Party Maori.

@rockyjones2563

6 ай бұрын

@@GaryPeters-nv8pjyou mean te plastic Maori

its great people speak te reo but if you want too improve this the parents should teach their kids never seen chinese taught in school but far more wide spread as a language than te reo

@kiwiingrid

6 ай бұрын

Or Spanish or French. Oddly enough my granddaughter is learning Japanese at college, no other languages were available accept Maori which she can learn from her Dad who never speaks it, but is fluent.

@chriskiwi2601

6 ай бұрын

Yep! Maori have got to learn to do things for themselves instead of expecting the cards to be dealt their way. When the cards aren't dealt the way they would like it becomes racism.

@AmonAnon-vw3hr

6 ай бұрын

@kiwiingrid get him speaking it.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Chinese Mandarin has been an option in schools since the late 80's early 90's. Many Colleges follow the final year with a week long visit to China and this has been pretty standard since the early 2000's...

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

That would be a reasonable thought if the NZ Government hadn't passed legislation against most things Maori. When they did that they made it their problem. The problem is not the Maori the problem is that racist people think Maori are getting something they don't deserve rather than recognising they are getting back something confiscated. Just cause it didn't affect you doesn't make it right. @@chriskiwi2601

I for one am so happy and impressed with this govt in their inclusiveness and getting on with what they said they were going to do

@NoaN06

6 ай бұрын

They aren't inclusive they are racist

They can have there te reo fine no problem but they can’t have NZ

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

That's your problem isn't it - you one of those crazies who would've marched on the white house huh...

@gruntabro1

6 ай бұрын

Wrong country idiot

What's going to lead people into learning Maori, or any language.?.....being interested and a liking to do so, it's a personal thing. ... if at a gvt level everyone can understand English, then make that the language for gvt departments, don't mind street names regional names left as is. New Zealand is still New Zealand.

@daddybob6096

6 ай бұрын

@andreatodd3095. Yes Maam, correct. Logical.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

The issue is that some people don't understand English

The 2 of my Maori friends that I see complaining about the racist government are from educated, professional families. They are both university educated, well paid professionals, who have benefitted from their Maori ancestry and connections, acting as though they are being discriminated against and being hard done by. Seems kind of entitled to me. Seriously, no one is stopping people from using Te reo or celebrating their culture.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Do your 2 Maori friends know you publicly belittle them behind their backs - you don't seem much of a friend

@Chopper650

6 ай бұрын

​@@2wahineandadogthey weren't named and shamed... what a gaslighting pos u are... cant even address what the point of the comment was... just straight to attacking the messenger over the message... seems you have the same entitled attitude cherry picker

If English is your second, or third language, English needs to be the main preferred language in NZ for day to day business, leisure and especially in tourism, for all verbal and written transactions. Te Reo is not going to die, as Maoridom have their on media, TV, Radio, Marae and cultural activities, etc, that will keep the Te Reo alive. It should be optional to learn and speak Te Reo regardless on ethnicity.

He'll I went to school in the sixties and 70's. We all (maori and nonmaori) got the strap for all sorts of things.

The Maori Language isn't being banned. It just simply isn't being forced onto people. 17% of the population are Maori, less than 50% of them speak Te Reo fluently. So , in terms of NZ as a country we would likely have more people fluent in Mandarin, so does that also need to be mandated? Chinese people have been in NZ for practically as long as European people..... once you go down that road it becomes a but ridiculous. We are an English speaking nation, all other languages should be encouraged as a second language but not mandated into public usage. Its that simple.

I was strapped quite regularly at St Pauls' College Auckland, 66/71. School Cert year was my last strapping, you could choose the either the cane or the strap. 3 brothers had a go at me in the locker room-put one in hospital and the 6 straps or canes quickly came. First press conference of this new Gov, was smoking non stop entirely. Meantime Abortion HAS DECIMATED MAORI FAMILY LINES in particular, whose Pole on Marae's are now redundant. Not that Pakeha lines are any better. And still smoking is the hot topic. Its farcical prioritizing....

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

Hahahaa good job

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

With a statement that biased "Meantime Abortion HAS DECIMATED MAORI FAMILY LINES in particular" you need to provide your evidence as that is a statistic I have NEVER heard. Are you inferring that all abortions of Maori aren't for health issues, if so again please cite your proof. A friend had an unviable fetus are you saying that the fact the baby was dead inside her is the reason her Maori family line hasn't continued or that the fact that she was given a medical D&C to save her life was the reason for her Maori family line not being continued?

@wildcolonialman

6 ай бұрын

@@2wahineandadog Google Abortion Statistics NZ by Race. Last count: 7184 NZ European. 2875 Maori. The Dislocation, the Spiritual Dislocation, the Empirical Dislocation, to the Body Social NZ, is a Renting, a shattering, of all NZ family lines. A massive hole in Demographic Studies that no Faculty will Study.

@shanecollie5177

6 ай бұрын

@@2wahineandadog Don't be daft , the vast majority of abortions are on perfectly healthy babies, in the wombs of perfectly healthy women, This is a consistant fact globally.

@Chopper650

6 ай бұрын

​@@2wahineandadoga minority of abortions are done for medical reasons... however majority of abortions are through inconvenience ... I personally support 1st term abortions as we have enough bad parents who's kids suffer and those whom suffer from alcohol and other drug related fetal issues from irresponsible females who are too selfish to abstain for the benefit of the unborn child. Not to mention the ones who teat the DPB as a career option and keep spitting out babies to multiple fathers

BM : I'm filing this petition under a cultural Tribunal.. SP : why not advocate for M to be unable to buy tobacco BM : oh this is not just about M people.. 🤔

@lydiascl

6 ай бұрын

No other ethnic group (or their health care advocate) has condemned the abolishment because they know it's personal responsibility.. 🤔 What about sugar, alcohol and fast food?

@zweed69

6 ай бұрын

@@lydiascl ikr look at what prohibition bought society the feckless hacks who need state guidance like this should relocate to saudi arabia 😂😂😂😂

@ronaldwarren1267

6 ай бұрын

The thing is if people want to smoke they will don't mater who they are some would rather smoke than eat its up to them ban tobacco altogether that's not happening

@rockyjones2563

6 ай бұрын

But then how do we determine who is Maori and who isn’t?

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

This isn't just about M people - they legal recourse is through Waitangi Tribunal but the outcome is for ALL Nationalities

Buddy’s parents were probably beaten for smoking at school too, did it Stop them smoking?

we are one people, but, Maori are 17% Pakeha etc are 83% of the population, almost 98% of the population don't speak Maori and finding public places listed in Maori is damn near impossible, GET BACK TO ENGLISH !!

@daddybob6096

6 ай бұрын

@speeddemon9555. Exactly and you are not alone in your analysis, many citizens agree but are reluctant to say so, for obvious reasons.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Please provide evidence that 98% of the population don't speak Maori - that is just a ridiculous statement

Buddy is a bit stupid I think

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Perhaps but we know you are alot stupid

Woke Kotahi is still using the old name from what I have seen. Why isn't the head of the department being punished for ignoring the wishes of the minister?

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

Probably will be told to follow the governments lead on this nonsense

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Maybe because the problem is your's not theirs

Nicely ended Sean! Boom.

That sounds 'slightly' better 🤔

PLEASE - who is asking the question "What do the rest of think about the new government?" Not just what do "Maori" think? What about what we think?????? The reality is that the government is NOT racist - it is focused on ALL New Zealanders, not race, not ethnicity. How about we ask the poor what they think??? How about we ask the South Island what they think? Or the North Island?? We are NOT rolling back the progress in Maori language. We have been shoving Maori words into English, replacing English words with Maori words that do NOT mean the same time. IT IS NOT AN EVOLUTION. If Maori want to speak Maori, then let them, but DO NOT force me to.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

You seem to be inferring this is Maori problem but your the one bleeting on about not being asked your opinion - your the one who has a problem with something - it's definately YOUR problem not a Maori one

Without Europeans arrival no maori today would exist

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

What an ignorant, ridiculous comment - Maori survived for hundreds of years without them and weren't subject to plagues or dinosaur attack so of course the race would still have existed

Buddy's pathological victimhood does him proud

Time for the treaty gravy train to cease

We live in a multi ethnic society and we need to move forward there is a lot more to it than just the Maori language

@NoaN06

6 ай бұрын

Being multicultural doesn't take away from the bi cultural orgins of this country.

I don't want it called waka.nzta is it's name

shut down ALL M Departments,..we dont NEED them,... recover the money and ALL assets back to the nz public..

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Sure NZ should listen to an illiterate rant from a racist

Sean nailed it on this one. Basically got him to admit there is favouritism and advantage. Pays to remember the treaty was written in plain English too. It's not a mistranslation like the Maori Party is portraying.

@StGammon77

6 ай бұрын

Only the English Treaty needs to be taught we all speak and understand it, te reo is for maori culture not us I don't like their control of what their tongue means I don't need it, it's not official half of it isbfashioned from English or just made up

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Straight up bullshit. @@StGammon77

@the_oneandonlycrazyjess1396

6 ай бұрын

Should get rid of the English version

There is no attack on TeReo.. just a push back by the majority of the population who do not identify with TeReo.. it is not the language of the majority and the majority are very opposed to having it forced down their throats 24/7 ... whatever they do where every they go.. having to sit through hours of Maori money making self indulgence. You can travel the world to some of its most remotest regions and still you will find English being spoken.. never TeReo! The old...."Maori got strapped for speaking Maori at school" rant has long worn thin .... whereas the truth of the matter was ALL NON ENGLISH speakers were treated in this manner when caught not speaking English at school. This well worn and misquoted 1903 legislation that Maori love to misquote and dine out on while wailing and wringing their hands crying "victim" ... blaming the crown for all their woes - should be brought out into the open and shown it was not a racist law but one Maori themselves wanted, and in fact demanded, to bring their children into the English speaking world that they were now faced to live in. All the children of all Non English speaking settlers were also dealt with in the same manner.. and apart from a few hurt feelings the children had at the time we are not hearing from the descendants of these settlers how they were victims at the hands if the crown! I had an Aunt strapped for not speaking English at school and her siblings said she wailed the whole 5 miles walk home from school - never before had she had the strap ... but she went on to achieve much in her life, she gave back an enormous amount to the country in her work as a community nurse and managed to laugh and later understood why she got the school strap! Time to grow up Maori, stop thinking as children and be an example for your own children ... your incessant bleating of being victims is creating children with the same mindset. Maori have a duty to their ancestry to keep their language alive... this is not necessarily the duty of the government .... and not all kiwis have the same genetic make up. TeReo should remain on much of our signage... but under English - which is the official language of the country. Most of us enjoy TeReo as we once knew it... not the fanatic overkill we are forced to endure now. English became the official language in 1840 when in those days it was possible to randomly gather 20 Maoris together only to find they in turn could not understand each other.... their only link for communication had become English.... this was when the drive and push for the language of TeReo which was the creation of the English linguist Samuel Lee with the aid of Hongi Hika and a hand full of northern dialects... and first introduced in 1860.... It should be remembered TeReo is a modern language, relevant to only some Maori and not all.... certainly not relevant to all NZ citizens... it does not mean we do not enjoy it with words of greeting finding its way into our everyday speak.....Let it remain this way... the key thing is that is has been the fanatic demanding push of the activists (who have made a whole industry out of pushing TeReo and bucket loads of money to boot) they have brought about this push back from the majority ..... the majority of the people have had enough! The extreme racist abuse of the minority activists group are to blame for this.

@magingi

6 ай бұрын

Well said.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Oh right so you like some but not all if only Maori had that choice. It's funny that your ridiculously long bleet is all about your right to do as you wish but you are so quick to stomp down anyone else's rights

@valeriehughes1008

6 ай бұрын

@@2wahineandadog It is called democracy and the will of the majority... the minority does not rule!

@SB-Kiwi

6 ай бұрын

​@@2wahineandadogyep. Well said.

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

You have hit the nail on the head

Names upon signs are suppose to be informative therefore sign or names written in gibber are not fit for purpose. Maori is a multi-millionaire dollar industry and their biggest earner isn't fisheries or forestry or even leases hold lands, no.. it's Maori language, all paid for by the kiwi tax payer. And to be a kiwi is a iwi, end of story.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

You should smoke less

I have sent you an explanation about APARTHEID & MAORI who are the ones who created this, why do you not use this in your interview ?

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Probably because your biased and so your "explanation" is factually unuseable

@andriesmaritz2055

6 ай бұрын

@@2wahineandadog Probably you do not understand it, it is factually correct. Biased is not applicable. I will just not spend time on your publications. You are obviously playing it safe to save your own ........

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Again factually correct ...in your mind only - I care not whether you respond - trying to make NZ the same or similar to other countries will never work NZ is unique and always has been@@andriesmaritz2055

victim mentality, do better for yourself and stop blaming the past. use the past to guide your future. stop blaming everything on other people. we are all trying to better ourselves.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

If that is the case then why are you picking on someone doing the same thing.

@NoaN06

6 ай бұрын

Clearly you don't understand how the past can impact people and cause long lasting trauma. Are you even a descendant of this country? Or did you come here and then think you get to have a say about Māori custom and language?

@etiaulaumea7373

6 ай бұрын

@@NoaN06 absolutely agree with how the past can impact people, what i would differ on is that individually we are affected from the decisions of the past based on our experiences, this can cause trauma and depression. But as descendants of a culture that has been oppressed we cant say that because our ancestors where oppressed that make us oppressed? that is ridiculous. we pave the future for the future, we have to work to see our culture at the top of society, not by hand outs but by our achievements based on our ability to be better. where is your mana. don't use the past as an excuse but use it as a reason to life up the people. if you use the past to sulk and cry, you will be stuck there. tell your children they are oppressed and they will shrivel up and become useless, but give them hope and build them up and they will thrive. but i am telling you that with your attitude you are strangling your culture.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

I am unsure why you think Maori are telling their children they are oppressed? Hi honey how was school? I got told off, oh you are just be oppressed it happens to us Maori??? everything you have seen and heard in the news and this is what you think - not that Maori adults are standing up for their rights and more importantly their childrens rights??? bigger perspective required from you@@etiaulaumea7373

I'm Welsh. I have lived in NZ for over a decade. My language was beaten out of the welsh people in the 1800s by what you could label "English rule". Welsh people could be hate filled over that, but we aren't. There is no segregation in the UK between English, Welsh and other Celtic tribes. To keep things moving forward we have to be one ... a unified nation. NZ needs unification, not separation. Mutual respect and love are powerful drivers forward. I love my Kiwi home, my Maori and Pakeha friends and colleagues, and so many other races, genders, religions, and ideals. There is room for everyone, but we must all push for this and it needs effort and a desire to work! It breaks my heart to hear devisive plans to have an apartheid system in a country we all have pride and love for. Please, for the sake of peace, love, and unity, let us be one. Language is not at risk unless we allow it to be. I speak Welsh still, I've learned so many Maori words and Phrases. None wants it dead, nor the history and culture! What brought us to where we are is as important as OUR decision to move forward together. Please have a thought for what CAN be, not for what has passed. And have a wonderful Christmas and new year to everyone.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

It's nice that you speak your National language - am guessing it wasn't legislated from your country like it was in NZ. I am glad you are here and you clearly have integrated into NZ Culture well and for that I am glad for you and us as you seem like a good person. But in all honesty to infer there was no segregation in the UK given what happened in Ireland...seems a bit of a stretch.

@gavincarey4782

5 ай бұрын

Well said

My mother got strap by miss spelling a word. There was cut and bruises and blood on her hand. And she is European kiwi. So it wasn't just the Maoris.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

I think it is clear that corporal punishment was something ALL children of a certain age group went through.

"...I've no idea". He sure hasn't.

Most people embrace more Te Reo. I’ve doe a basic Te Reo course and many more will do so. The public just havent been taken on the journey and feel like ‘it has been forced on them’.. I went passed a blood transfusion place today and didn’t know what it was as Te Reo first and English second. Same as St Johns Ambulance Service. Auckland Council has only Te Reo on the back of the car I saw this morning, so I didn’t even know it was a council car until I drove passed it. Now if there had been a slower transition so that most people got used to the Te Reo version before/if it became the prominent language then there would be less resistance and even support. Like there was for Mount Taranaki.

@zweed69

6 ай бұрын

its being used now as a form of division, did you read dr seuss books? reo is stars upon thars rn 🤷‍♂

@stephenc8956

6 ай бұрын

Behind the implementation by stealth lay, and still lies, an unacceptable agenda. That's the problem. So, given their agenda, no amount of 'taking us along' with them would ultimately work. Having said that, I know what you're saying. I was pretty open to learning a bit of Te Reo once...

@whatthe6532

6 ай бұрын

Why would you waste time with Māori language when many in the world seek to speak English.

@StGammon77

6 ай бұрын

Why transition, maori culture should only be carried our onbtheir own territory and marae they simply do not have the right to interfere with the Colonial Govt, Chiefs said not to start political parties its against the principles of the Treaty that Chiefs discussed

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Because it's the only uniquely New Zealand language and every Kiwi has the right to learn it probably@@whatthe6532

More important issues. Exactly my thoughts. What do we want as an outcome? Stop the window dressing from parties and get to work on important issues.

MAORI IS STONE AGE AND STILL IS, they get the same information as the rest of us, to thick to take notice, is their concern.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Actually it sounds like it's your problem - your the one bleeting on

All Maori can speak English. So it's a bit silly to impose complicated Maori names on on every government organisation when the majority of the population who can't speak Maori can't pronouce them and get confused as to what the name of the organisation is they need to look up and call.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Nope that's your ignorance talking - there are MANY Maori who only speak Te Reo. But the real point is why do you have such a problem with the only uniquely NZ language being used on "some government organisations"

Language is a utility. English is one of the most widespread used languages in the world. It is accurate and what our legal system is based around. That's why people want to use it first, including some Maori

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Some people want to use it first not all

Not only racist but anti worker as well.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Well you should really consider getting out more - I hear the KKK is hiring

Isn't English, Maori, and sign language already official languages in nz?

@daddybob6096

6 ай бұрын

@myresponsesarelimited7895 We could say the same about the increasing referral by media of New Zealand, the land i was born in, as Aotearoa???? Shades of Rhodesia/ Zimbabwe?

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

@@daddybob6096 I wonder if my ancestors thought the same thing when it was changed to new Zealand 🤔

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

@@daddybob6096 what is that anyway- Dutch? ...

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

@@NA-sj9jy don't be ridiculous- of course it is🤦‍♂️ ... give it quick Google then 😒

@daddybob6096

6 ай бұрын

@@myresponsesarelimited7895 I'm in my 80s and i have served in this country's Military probably long before you were born young man? Together with your kinfolk, and we all worked and lived together with one purpose. All for one, one for all. Do you know about that? This country is named on the world atlas as New Zealand, not Aotearoa. Respect to your ancestors but get real, it's now 2023. Although not for much longer. LoL.Regards. Ko Ropata Wirihana, Veteran NZ. Soldier.

Alright if Maori want Maori names as well as English names then I want English names were there are only Maori names used, like Wanganui and Tauranga, why just waste tax payers money on one and not the other.

If Maori want to get real about bettering there lives for them selves and there children then they should look at implementing alcohol - bans on the whanau that abuse alcohol and then go on to abuse there own family and friends.

If you start with a colour you limit yourself to a racism component at some stage. The shape of thinking is the most important thing period. Up is up irrespective of one's colour or religious beliefs. Let's return to basics.

@GaryPeters-nv8pj

6 ай бұрын

I think it goes "Don't judge by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character". Makes so much sense and extinguishes any/all arguments prioritizing colour as a positive or negative.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Perhaps but what is under attack isn't just colour, it includes religious beliefs.

So the Maoris in the new government are racist but TPM aren't?

He can't even be bothered to look and acknowledge the history of Maori leadership in the early 1900s that agreed that English was important

it is PART-MAORI, the last full blooded maori died in 1954. Stop the rot at the source. Racism is so beneath us as a nation, one country, one rule of law for all, no elite rights for any group, fairness for all

@J.Smith-rc6wh

6 ай бұрын

Buddy is the victim, we need more winners not more victims

@RavenLove-gv9fs

6 ай бұрын

100% true

@patneho6684

6 ай бұрын

I'm of full blood Maori .

@reiza834

6 ай бұрын

yea yea,, one world, one country, one law, one language, one currency. sounds like wef rhetoric👍🏽🤦🏽‍♂️

@AmonAnon-vw3hr

6 ай бұрын

@reiza834 the WEF is one of the main institutions pushing "indigenous rights" my bro lol. You've got it exactly backwards.

Again.......these maori are actually are MAORI/EUROPEAN........... so what does that tell people. Theyre educated plus of a mixed race as so many nationalities are, its down to personal responsibility. They all speak english, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT LANGUAGE. NOT EVERYONE IS GETTING USED TO THESE MAORI WORDS. AS FOR CHUCKI NG IN MAORI WORDS INTO ENGLISH NEWS,WEATHER ETC ETC. Nobody stops anyone talking another language in this day in age. English is the one language all parts of the world can understand,. The coalition are only scrapping labours way of doing re smoking issue, they will put their ownpolicy through. No matter what nationality you are somethings come down to personal responsibility........

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

You are so ignorant - Mongolian's don't speak English, neither do the majority of the Asian or European Continents - try watching the news some time those headsets are translators from English, the voice over for interviews is because they DONT speak english. You are even more ignorant to assume that your language is understood by ALL in NZ. To not realise that there are places in NZ where Te Reo is the first language shows you are so self-involved it is gross. STOP SHOVING YOUR BIAS UNINFORMED OPINIONS ON EVERYONE ELSE

It is also annoying to have to deal with the racist accusation. A racist is a person who is prejudiced against a person or group based on their ethnicity. Therefore, the previous government was racist because they discriminated against Europeans simply on the basis of their race - they were not Tangata Whenua (whatever that might mean).

How about Pakeha branding, a community centre, money for cultural preservation, claims for stolen Mission lands given to the Church ministry ?

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Culture preservation...what exactly is Pakeha Culture and be clear because it is blatantly obvious you are NOT Pakeha just white

Did you know that, gifting names, not name changes are the politically correct way to term it now. 🙏🇳🇿NZ

NZ a MULTI CULTURAL COUNTRY.....most people are born and raised speaking the MAIN predominant language of English. I have no problem with those individual Maori who choose the language, a language written and designed by English people using the LATIN alphabet, as their preferred language. But even then those individuals who do choose, still need to live with, and communicate with English for business, health, and other required forms to necessitate living in New Zealand. I have a problem with those Maori who have insidiously insisted with law makers to FORCE their language and Culture upon all school children, upon education all institutions and people choosing to study for doctorates or degrees in New Zealand. Forcing people to do something they dont particuarly wish to do is the only Racist control I see....and I am certainly not alone in this thought. The Maori language to most kiwis is a mere novelty...not a necessity. I, along with all other Kiwis who deserted the sinking ship of New Zealand, leaving the country, have had no desire to return to the left wing agenda government of Ardern and her cronies. I hope and pray this new Government will drag NZ from the swamp its sunk into, reverse the demands of Maori, and reverse the ridiculously Racist legislation instilled by Labour and the Greens. I would also like to see the GIFTED seats of Maori in both Parliment, and local bodies....be forfeited. It has appeared that the more given to Maori demands....the more they continue to want. I live in Turkiye. The predominant language here is Turkish. To necessitate living here, I have been learning how to communicate in Turkish...to necessitate my living here. My Turk born wife, and many other Turks who want to move to English speaking countries like New Zealand also learn the ENGLISH language to necessitate life there.....and as a requirement to have residency or citizenship in those countries.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Stay there, you racist ick

The government was racist under labour. They changed everything that Maori het special ppriveledges. If a person is sick the sickest person should get healthcare first regardless of skin colour. The best candidate should get the job regardless of skin colour ect

Cultural anchors is not a good reason to make public policy

I have it on good authority that motu is a river near Ekatahuna

How can the National party be racist, when all they are trying to do is bring things to an equal footing for everyone? The Labour party and some Maori are the racist ones, Labour gave Maori everything they asked for. Maori have a lot more privileges than the rest of us. Now National says, no, enough, Maori (not all) start crying about it. Whats good for one race and New Zealand should be good for all. Buddy, how about we stick to the facts. You should stop talking for everyone else. All you activists are the same. Nearly every night on the news you hear a Maori use the words "our people". That is creating separatism. You don't hear any Europeans use those words. Maori is a culture, like a religion, and shouldn't be forced onto the others. Buddy says we should just let it happen, so why is Maori wanting names of everything changed? Just leave it and suck it up Buddy, let it happen. Take your own advise. We have 3,297,864 Europeans in New Zealand, 707,598 Asians and 775,836 Maori. If half of ALL Maori speak Maori, that's about 10% of the entire population, so why would you want a language used when only a few understand it. When did the needs of the few out weigh the needs of the many. This country would be better of learning Chinese. How can we move forward as New Zealanders when a few activists are trying to create apartheid.

@daddybob6096

6 ай бұрын

@murraytrimmer228. You're absolutely right. NZ. Veteran Soldier.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Except that you are the one with the problem. Just to be clear your stats are rubbish, where are the PI's in your stats? Also who says that Europeans and Asian's don't speak Te Reo - I know many. There was even a lovely Japanese man who appeared on an advert for speaking fluent Maori - this is your issue NOT Maori speakers.

Having Maori names on everything serves no practical purpose whatsoever

The government is not racist for wanting to give prominence to the language majority understand & communicate in when accessing government services. It’s actually a legal issue. Some websites write in both Māori & English together. Not as a translation just in 1 sentence. This is highly unprofessional. I am multi lingual myself & grew up bilingual. I’ve seen how it’s done in many countries, and the way the Labour government did it is NOT the right way. It made a mockery of both languages.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

In other countries doesn't the unique language come first or second - eg Japanese with english alongside or french with english alongside? but you think it shouldn't be the same way in NZ? Maybe you should try and figure out why you have a problem with Te Reo instead of making it someone elses problem.

@MandySam13

6 ай бұрын

@@2wahineandadog How you equate Japanese & French with Te Reo shows you don’t get the point at all. 99% of both those countries speak Japanese & French. It’s their main language. Te Reo is not the majority language in New Zealand. Like I said, I grew up bilingual & lived in countries with 3 national languages. The language that the majority speaks is what came first, then any other language. Don’t try to make this into something it’s not. I have ZERO problems with Te Reo. Not that people like you get it. You always see the negative.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

I agree that there is generally a main language HOWEVER what we have in NZ is a main language and a bunch of people who feel that they are justified to attack anyone using the other language of the country and it's users. There is a big difference between "not having a problem with something" and accepting something, I would be thrilled with tolerating something but the rhetoric on here including your own is a stomp on it till it's dead attitude. If you don't mind it why be negative towards it. @@MandySam13

@user-uo7vf3ne9w

6 ай бұрын

So with that argument the main language of this countrie simply goes by the language that the majority of people speak at that time, so what happens when the majority is chinese or indian? Do we re visit the main language argument?

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Personally no I don't think a revisit would be in order but as a speaker of ALL our Countries languages I would expect anyone living in our country to be fluent or semi-fluent in one or all of them. However I would not be adverse to learning new languages@@user-uo7vf3ne9w

I think it is up to Maori to look after their Language! It isn't my Language, I'd prefer to learn French, German, Spanish etc. Sean you got Buddy big time at the end. It is a shame that we have become such a Racist anti Pakeha Country! I am a 4th Generation New Zealander of 100% European stock; Norwegian, Scottish, Irish, English and German. I am happy to use Māori phrases and words where appropriate. I was doing this (Learning) on my own quite happily and enjoyed it. But once it started to be shoved down my throat it has become a complete turnoff.

Checkmate Buddy

Great to see that bloody murry put in his place, equal to everyone

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Put in his place - under your shoe you mean? no one achieves equality but ripping apart another's culture - stop being dumb

The language or their kids....what are the stats??????????????????

It is an activist thing.

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Mikaere displays a consumate victim mentality appealing to the WT for a modern personal grievance. That is apartheid. Legal privilege based on race, and I assume paid for by the taxpayer. Supported by the Judiciary who deem the WT to be experts in all things Maori. And the left wonders why there is so much anger in the country. Frankly, I never thought I'd live to see the day that apartheid would be tolerated in NZ.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

It's always been there, just now that it is invading your white world you got your knickers in a twist - poor widdle white person so underprivileged and hard down by...

Buddy's comments are typical of people who don't think too much about how language acquisition works. It sounded as if he would be happy with a few Maori words sprinkled about. But none of this window dressing will 'save Te Reo ". The formula is : Maori parents teach their pre-schoolers and parents create an environment where the kids can meaningfully converse. As well, of course, Maori families need to ensure that all of their children are fluent in English since they cannot succeed if they're not.

I can't speak proper english, a second language is out for me. But fill your boots if you want to speak maori, just don't jump down my throat about it.

@GaryPeters-nv8pj

6 ай бұрын

'How dare you' exercise your freedom of choice. And in plain sight for the world to see. Yeehaaa.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Yes well illiterate adults come from all Nationalities I guess but no matter your Nationality if your unable to know when to type a capital I see no reason in listening to your opinion in ANY language

@jasonshaw7590

6 ай бұрын

Oh your so super. Piss off then clown.

English is an official first language, where in the world can we use te reo, Europe, UK, America, Asian regions, it's very limited apart from New Zealand, Australia, maybe some Pacific people, I'm not against the use of te reo, maybe when St Stevens opens in 2025 ,they will only speak te reo will they,why should European people have to take this, race based sports teams, how about a sports team named pakeha sevens, sorry mate not allowed,wait till the next round of treaty claims are paid, you'll gladly take the racist government money,your last comment was on point regarding smoking, everyone has a choice to smoke or drink, don't make it a government issue because of bad choices

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

English ISN'T the "Official" first language - you should do some research before committing to your racist rant. Also Te Reo is spoken in many Countries including Dubai - your ignorance and jealousy is your problem so trying to push your nonsense on to others

Haha, last comment spot on Sean. .And, hey Buddy stop trying to control us, free choice, to smoke or not, if you are really worried about Māori health. start with obesity, the majority of those that purposed this stop smoking stuff where ten-ton tussores, not at all specimens of good health, talk about pot calling kettle black and obesity costs our health department huge amounts of $ every year whereas smokers pay for their medical expenses, many times over through their tax. And hey the P and the meth and the booze and the beatings are far bigger health threats to our people than smoking, if you really care!

We are all racist in our own lil way 😂 And that's FACT 😳..... DON'T know why Labour changed all the gov names to maori anyways. Shit im Maori and had no idea what who is what lmao. Lets move forward as KIWIS and not divied us into ethnicitys 😊 Merry xmas All

@GaryPeters-nv8pj

6 ай бұрын

No we are NOT all racist. I couldn't give a toss about your colour. You are obviously talking about yourself.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Well we all know you are racist@@GaryPeters-nv8pj

Every thing starts in the family home, learn Te Reo yes, it is a beautiful language but do it on your own time don't try and force the issue, English is the recognized language for communicating in New Zealand.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

You mean it is the only language you will recognize NOT the only recognized language

@johankaarekarlsen1383

6 ай бұрын

@@2wahineandadog I think you know what I mean.The conducting of business, commerce, instruction etc,here in New Zealand 🇳🇿 and around the world the Korero is the English language. Speak moari if you wish it , that is great but don't try and integrate into the rest of New Zealand.

@2wahineandadog

6 ай бұрын

Again you want everyone to do what you want, you negate the fact that English was forced upon Maori and clearly still is. The thing that continues to shock me is that parents always seem surprised when their children can sing a Maori song or want to take part in Kapa Haka at school etc - they are partly thrilled inferring their childrens pronounciation is soooo good without considering that their children have every right to learn the language and the culture of the country they live in. That it is not an expectation that they won't learn in English as well but when they go abroad they will always know they are from NZ because the can speak the indigenous language of NZ, however Haka do you see performed overseas by brown and white Kiwis alike. The inference that we want 1 or the other is prejudice - we see both as being integral to this Country and its inhabitants - pity more people can't be less judgy@@johankaarekarlsen1383

Unfortunately ,The colour of your Skin is exactly what is dividing NZ, Maori against the rest is very obvious from watching the Maori Party in parliament. NZ now has a huge diversity of ethnic people all trying their best to be honest law abiding tax paying citizens, who aren’t playing a race card. Chinese, Indian, Pacific Islanders to name a few aren’t demanding their ethnicity be given special privileges, they just get on doing what Mr & Mrs Citizen do every day. Talk about reverse apartheid !