I can tell you as a teenager watching WCW in the 90's --- when they went to Disney and I saw that intro, I immediately thought "WOW, WCW is with Disney?" and the perception made WCW feel much much bigger league! I was super impressed at the time, as was my family watching.

@quentinkaasa47

7 ай бұрын

I wonder what you would have thought about it a decade earlier, when Disney was struggling and almost got bought up by that corporate raider. Was the general public perception back then basically the same for Disney before, as it was after the Renaissance period had kicked into gear?

@joeriveracomedy

7 ай бұрын

No one in Florida wants to partner with disney these days.

Eric was a perfect combination of cerebral, ruthlessness, and resourcefulness. Getting Disney's label. Aquiring Hogan. Then later, Hall, Nash and other major WWF superstars. Almost literally working with a blank check. The nWo storyline. All of those factors combined perfectly for a perfect storm. It's no wonder WCW was beating the WWF for 83 straight weeks. Bischoff's genius and Turner's deep wallet were a lethal combination!

@KentKaliber

7 ай бұрын

Eric was a young man and he absolutely WAS a genious! WCW had Ted Turner's wallet for years under other leadership and made no progress whatsoever. Putting WCW Nitro head to head with WWF Raw took balls of steel on Eric's part. And I don't think he gets enough credit for such a brazen, risky move. Eric KICKED the WWF directly in the balls and laughed about it. There was a magnetism to him and he absolutely felt like "the NEW Vince McMahon" at the time.

@ShadowAngel18606

7 ай бұрын

@@KentKaliber WCW had no money. They were under a very strict budget and basically couldn't go anywhere. This changed when Hogan was available. All of a sudden, Turner had an interest in WCW, all of a sudden he did open his wallet and allowed money to be spent. It really just boils down to Hogan coming in (and instantly breaking all records). That was the big change for WCW, not Bischoff. Bischoff basically got lucky and got everything handed to him on a silver platter. The fact that he ultimately failed just shows that, no, he wasn't a genius. Not even close. He really just had a lot of undeserved luck.

@rodans_boom5941

7 ай бұрын

@@ShadowAngel18606 Respectfully, I'd have to disagree with you on some points. Bischoff brought a fledgling company from the brink of total cotrastophy, to the number one company in professional wrestling. So what if he had Turner's wallet to help him? Somebody had to make those deals. Someone had to make the phone calls, and negotiate with wrestlers...with their lawyers and agents. Do you think Vince would not have done the same thing with that kind of money?? Eric was a genius. He defeated the great WWF for 83 straight weeks. That's not easy. That takes alot of planning, strategy, and hard work. As for him "failing" in the end. He's talked about WCW's fall several times on his channel. It was the AOL/Time Warner merger that handcuffed him from continuing to have creative absulidity. They wanted a more G rated product. And I think they slashed WCW's budget also. When it comes down to it. It was AOL and Time Warner that brought down WCW. Not Eric Bischoff.

@paranoidewok6772

7 ай бұрын

@@rodans_boom5941 You're revisionist history doesn't apply here. Yes, he was beating WWE for a little while but WWE ended up destroying them. Destroying them badly at that. Bischoff stole an idea from Japan, applied it here and if you look at wcw as a whole, the NWO was their only big drawing story during the Monday night war. The dealbreaker was always whether Hogan wanted to turn heel. Had he said no there would never have been a Monday night war.

@rodans_boom5941

7 ай бұрын

@@paranoidewok6772 Hogan deciding to turn heel was definitely a deal breaker. But who was the person who approached Hogan to turn heel in the first place? Who was the person who in part, made that deal breaker happen? It was Eric Bischoff. Even Eric himself will admit that he took the nWo idea from what had previously happened in Japan. And there really isn't anything wrong with that. The true genius in all of that, is what he did with that idea that he took from the Japanese promotion. The rest is literally wrestling changing history. Eric's genius was more than just creating the nWo. It was also pitting Nitro against RAW head-to-head. It was not only smart. But also very gutsy. It was aquiring Disney's label. It was aquiring major WWF talent. And yes, it was also giving away RAW taped results, right at the start of every Nitro show. As ruthless as that was. Eric Bischoff doesn't get the credit he deserves for being the wrestling Legend that he is. And that is very unfortunate. The man played a major role in changing professional wrestling forever.

I loved studio wrestling. It looked real to me as a kid

I really wish Rick Rude, Flair, Macho Man and Mr Perfect stayed. They could have some nice runs with Brett Hart before Shawn Michaels came along. Then they could have done the same with Shawn.

Hogan vs Flair , Sting vs Undertaker is 2 of the biggest misses in wrestling history . Not the house shows etc The real world HW champion vs Wwf champ at wrestle mania was huge miss

@blakejarvis5302

7 ай бұрын

Nah loved watching Macho win the championship

@rolliemosley

7 ай бұрын

​@blakejarvis5302 Yeah fine moment. But Hogan vs Flair best for business

@kurtvanderbogarde8402

7 ай бұрын

Sting vs Undertaker (well Mean Mark Callous anyway) was done on a WCW house show in October 1990.

@lPHOENIXZEROl

7 ай бұрын

@@rolliemosley Hogan vs Flair happened at house shows and was planned for WM VIII but there's a reason why plans changed. Savage vs Flair was a much better angle and match that people were into. Hogan vs Flair happened in WCW and was utterly forgettable.

@rolliemosley

7 ай бұрын

@lPHOENIXZEROl Forgotten to who? You 5 star match junkies? I enjoy the "theater" bouts as well. Hogan-Flair @ '94 Bash was WCWs largest gate at that point. Hogan smashed it again in '97 vs. Sting. You 5 star marks/attuide era fans think everything revolve around 5 star bouts. There is no way that Savage-Flair is better "business" than Hogan-Flair. True, I enjoyed the Macho match at Mania, but WWE marketed Hogan/Flair wrong. Just cause they WWE don't mean they don't mess up, too. Same WWE thru Sting in there with Triple H and missed Taker-Sting. Didn't do DDP vs. Rock people's champion. Hogan and Flair to me at WM 8 would have been historic to me

Conrad wants Bruce to speculate on something he has nothing to do with…. Huge WCW Mark

@sobbyhasselhoff

7 ай бұрын

So?

@freshparkfilms

7 ай бұрын

I think op has a great point... what would he have to do with anything that went on at WCW 😅

@joeriveracomedy

7 ай бұрын

Huge was sufficient

What shape is Bruce's mouth, because he is talking out of about 15 different sides of his mouth

The Disney studios looked good on camera. Riverside Drive didn't look good (except for the interview set which still looks pretty cool today) unless you grew up with that sort of thing and were sentimental for it. People mock the town halls and civic theatres where World Of Sport wrestling in England was filmed in the 60s/70s/80s but even they looked far better than a TV studio with about 2 rows of fans on 3 sides.

@ShadowAngel18606

7 ай бұрын

WCW at Disney still was just 3 rows of people on 3 sides. The only change was that previously you actually had wrestling fans as your crowd, now you had park visitors who didn't know what wrestling was and had to be cued in by a display telling them when to boo and when to cheer, which made everything come across as incredibly fake. The outdoor shows were slightly better thanks to a larger crowd. And the rotating ring was hilariously stupid.

@kurtvanderbogarde8402

7 ай бұрын

@@ShadowAngel18606 It was a lot more that three. Watch an old WCW Worldwide from the mid 90s. It ain't Pontiac Silverdome but there's a reasonably well filled out rostrum on each side which at least LOOKS the part. Not like the pokey little TV studios across the South and the Midwest. from the 60s to the mid 90s with about 2 rows of fans - LITERALLY.

@ShadowAngel18606

7 ай бұрын

@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 I think you need to rewatch the shows. They weren't really that much better, as i said, in the 80's: wrestling fans, Disney: Random people who had no clue what is going on. And if you ever watched a good indie territory, you'd know that 50 rabid wrestling fans are way better than 250 people who couldn't care less about the product. A great example is Shimmer: The fans were livid, real wrestling fans who got in on the action. Totally different to the arena shows with the typical uncaring audience that needs a screen to tell them when to scream or pretend to care.

@kurtvanderbogarde8402

7 ай бұрын

@@ShadowAngel18606 Regardless of atmosphere it looked better visually onscreen. Bigger, grander, slicker.

@kurtvanderbogarde8402

7 ай бұрын

What other sport would they EVER hold in a TV studio?

No way Vince didn’t really care when he heard the news of Hogan.

Bash at the beach was HUGE

I’m marking at Abreu samurai intro oh my God that’s genius

I gave up on wwf early 93. Didn't watch rasslin again till 95 wcw! Late 90s wcw was just as good if not better than late 80s wwf

Are these podcasts new? Because Bruce is currently working for the WWE.

@MorrisMabalot

7 ай бұрын

Its a best of episode

Good job bruce is entertaining, the snide sarcastic way the questions are laid out is so negative on times.

Bruce is one of Vince's yes men. Massive kiss ass. He's been with WWE for a long, long time for a reason.

Conrads dropping mics lol. I couldn't believe that WWF passed on having the Flair vs Hogan at WrestleMania. Horrible booking imo.

6:40 its kinda hard to explain and I agree with Bruce or understand what he is saying. Hogan wherever he goes is gonna draw, thats a no brainer but WWF were working on the future of the business and its not that they wernt aware of hogans draw but they cant just rely on him alone, there needed to be more newer wrestlers and thats what Vince was focused on. Idk why conrad is having a hard time understanding this

$50 for a TV spot????? Wow. They could have made more donating plasma. No wonder they left in droves.

Everytime Conman says a sparky remark about WcW beating wwf .. If I was BP I'd simply say... " AND WHICH COMPANY IS STILL OPERATING IN 2023 AND WHICH IS A DEAD COMPANY?! " 🎤 🖐

@paranoidewok6772

7 ай бұрын

I'll never understand by they brag about 83 weeks. WWE beat them for a longer stretch than that and WCW no longer exists.

@asoncalledvoonch2210

7 ай бұрын

@@paranoidewok6772 I agree

I heard Eric stole the idea of going to Disney from Mike Graham

@stilettoswinger7404

7 ай бұрын

Never drew a dime

@kevinfitz8516

7 ай бұрын

no it was Greg Gagne, he came up with it back in 1987

@jamesfaragoza5782

7 ай бұрын

Eric screwed Vince

@lee.valley

7 ай бұрын

hogan started and owned Disney. true story.... 😮

Brother Love was only half as insufferable as Prichard the man himself

Let hogan go who cares

@kurtvanderbogarde8402

7 ай бұрын

By 1993 everyone was sick of him and his ego, rolling in on Bret Hart's big moment and taking his belt via Yokozuna. The finish of WM10 felt like a victory for democracy over the whims of Hogan and Vince, even setting up a good opportunity for Owen.

@deebo1103

7 ай бұрын

@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 was a victory that Vince lost money on. Yes, by 1993 the red and yellow had been stale for a couple years, but Hogan certainly had some mileage left as a heel. But from a business standpoint it was smart to grab up Hogan. He brought in a name and a national/international celebrity and brand, thus getting sponsors and cable to take note and offered WCW some validity that it never had. People hate Bischoff, but the man knew that wrestling could still work and the direction he took the product and its production were spot on in the mid 90s. Vince had his head in his ass until mid 1997, getting beaten week in, week out was the best thing to happen to him.

@kurtvanderbogarde8402

7 ай бұрын

@@deebo1103 Hogan did not use any of that mileage as a heel until Bret had had his title reign in full and Diesel took over - the main thing that lost Vince money, that big oaf as champion -and bombed so badly that they had to bring Bret back for a while until they had the big oaf's little buddy ready - he also bombed. Bret wasn't the messiah of the WWF, but he was Mr Fixit, a safe pair of hands who was brought in whenever the next sure thing - Warrior, Sid, the return of Hogan, Luger, Diesel, Shawn - had crashed and burned and then handed on to the next sure thing until that crashed and burned too.

@deebo1103

7 ай бұрын

​@kurtvanderbogarde8402 ill give you that bret was the "bandaid" for the company during that late 1992-1997 time-frame. But the only time anyone had interest in him was him chasing the belt. Hogan in 1993 not drawing made more than bret did. If vince was making money with hart, he would have kept him with the belt instead of always playing hot potato with it. Bret did the best anyone could've done in that time-frame and with the model vince was running. Vinces business model for wrestling was the reason is stunk for him until middle of 1998

Conrad doesn’t like Bruce I feel they’ve had some kind of falling out

@joeriveracomedy

7 ай бұрын

Bruce works in rasslin. No one in the biz likes a mark unless said miggity mark signs his check.

It doesn’t matter it was the WWE plan to let Hogan, Nash , Hall , etc go to Wcw so they could bury the company then they came home to WWE it all worked out fine