Kevin Nash Returning On Raw in 2003 was an awesome moment I remember when that happened

No fuckin way Diesel was more over than Kevin Nash

@marmcd2003

3 жыл бұрын

Prichard sucks that WWE Koolaid so hard, it's sickening.

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

🚛

@AlexThorn

2 жыл бұрын

That his biased wwe view. You're absolutely right Kevin nash as himself is more over than diesel ever was.

I’m a big fan of Nash and thought he was believable and a solid enough worker that took the business seriously. But, if he was a foot shorter, he’d be working construction.

@Realest636

3 жыл бұрын

I worked on the same construction site as Nash’s stepbrother in NYC. He was the teamster steward. Lol

@nickr4837

3 жыл бұрын

and if Leprechauns were real there'd be pots of gold to find

@jimbowlan5804

3 жыл бұрын

Not gonna say Nash was a bad worker but taker was a better big man who changed his style many times as the orginal taker he was slow and methodical and then changed to a more technical power based move set not I always say the people that stuck with taker where the ones who got a little bit of a push

@Realest636

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimbowlan5804 taker was also young when he got into Wrestling. He was also give or take 8 years younger than Nash . Nash, already did a stint in Basketball, for several years, by the time he got into Wrestling.

@jasonmorgan8110

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo. Scott hall was the one with all the charisma

I was a 13 year old boy just becoming a fan at the time of Nash HHH hell in a cell at bad blood with mick Foley as the guest referee. All I have to say is it was a nice introduction to Mick and the Hell in a cell for me not because of Kevin or because it was particularly good but it showed me what all this craziness could be and showed me I should go look at past cell stuff and past Foley stuff.

WWE yes man Bruce clearly would never admit Kevin Nash was more successful than Diesel 😂😂

@bdr113080

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m not going to say everything Bruce says is bullshit but after hearing him say that the WWF audience didn’t know who diamond Dallas page was and that’s why they didn’t push him was bullshit. DDP got a bigger reaction when he debuted on Rall than Ric Flair did earlier that year when he debuted on raw in Charlotte North Carolina. Bruce Prichard is full of shit.

@AkrimTabbouli

3 жыл бұрын

@@bdr113080 totally agree. He isn't always full of shit but that conversation about DDP really disappointed me. The DDP angle and 'NWO in WWE' angle are two where I call bullshit on these podcasts.

@renn6699

3 жыл бұрын

Uncle Bruce the company man 4 Lyfe!

@TheHomeInvasionShow

3 жыл бұрын

Everything said by everyone here is 💯💯💯💯

@bigdaddyroy5382

3 жыл бұрын

Cornette says it best when he calls Bruce the artful dodger

If he didn't constantly bring up irrelevant Dave Meltzer this would be a good podcast

@ehhhhhhh6141

2 жыл бұрын

Will never understand how that guys opinion is worth anything more than a fart in the wind.

Lol at Big D repping Hustler mag with that tank top in the thumbnail.

He still did the fist thing in WCW he just did the NWO sign instead of a closed fist.

They should have put the belt on Kev during Summer of 2003 for a short run, but I thought Kev did his job and was still over.

Yikes at that bump HHH took with Nash powerbombing him through the table on the top of the entrance ramp at Judgement day 03.

Vinnie Vegas, the master blaster or oz you pick

Kevin in 2003 was dope

@jimbowlan5804

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer 1998 Wolfpack Kevin Nash

his matches were pushed more than ConrADS ads. 😀😀

Love Bruce's critque on that hair match. Never thought about it but he's spot on. If you don't shave them bald what's the point?

Was hoping to hear a little bit more about his on screen character in 2003. He was called Kevin Nash but he wasn’t Kevin Nash, he was the most generic baby face with no real character. Always wondered if Nash was frustrated with his presentation in this era.

@simplyhuman2213

2 жыл бұрын

All Nash fans know 2003 run wasn’t Nash

@alexalexalex797

2 жыл бұрын

From what I’ve gathered about him, he probably cared 0% 😂

Nash never wanted to work. He was just a guy who had charisma.

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

He knew what worked for him.

@kaufman4life

3 жыл бұрын

He didn’t have to work like Bret. If you’re a giant, being a technical wrestler would look foolish against mostly smaller opponents

@smarkssucks1601

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaufman4life that's what these indy workrate marks fail to understand, nash sold more tickets with his supposed 5 moves than any midget with workrate

@isaacvargas3156

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaufman4life you're right and giant dudes of his stature have a lot of strain on their back and knees so I understand why he didnt get too heavily physical all the time

@jimbowlan5804

3 жыл бұрын

Taker was a big man that could work he worked well with guys like bet he could power thru as a big man or somewhat of a technical style not gonna say on like the level of Bret or Owen but he could do it too

I’m late to this episode but it’s fucking bananas to use Diesel over Nash. “To this audience…” fucks sake, they’re so goddamn naive to just how much most of fans watched both products.

Fuck Dave I loved it

unkle boopy, you such a company man!

I really think Jericho and Nash would have been a good tag team they had good chemistry together those two feuding with Booker T and Goldust would have been really good. I was so tired of NWO reunions and Kliq feuds. I would rather see new matches with Nash.

Kevin Nash is one of the reasons wrestling became "cool" for older kids.

@bradcarter2072

3 жыл бұрын

Wrestling was always for children . The problem is grown men thought it needed to be tailored to adults.

@hansjuker8296

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradcarter2072 stfu BRADLEY

@MrJRD827

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradcarter2072 let me just say something. I agree to a point. When WCW failed, they did so after changing their program to be more childish. Didn’t work. It’s like all the classic adult movies that all ages love. If U make things too childish kids won’t want to watch if they don’t feel like they’re being let in on the “adult factor” of it. Thus allowed to watch something they shouldn’t be allowed to makes them wanna watch more

@MrJRD827

3 жыл бұрын

So it has to be adult to sustain realness

@waynetables6414

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradcarter2072 wrestling was always about making money. doesn't matter who pays. if kids are the market, then kids are the market.. but if there are enough of us losers out there willing to open our big boy wallets for fake fighting then you end up with stuff like the late 90s.

When nash returned as diesel in 2010 or whatever it was at the rumble thats when people were ready for that again nostalgia made em super ovah

@ajk

2 жыл бұрын

2012 I believe it was. But yeah that mighta been the time, especially in the PG era. EDIT: Correction, was 2011, he was in the 40 man one.

"Dave Meltzer said something bad? Well he's just a pure evil piece of shit that relies on nothing but rumors and heresay!" "Kevin Nash said something bad? Aw, that's just good ol' Kevin being good 'ol Kevin!"

"Pal, We are bringing you back as your WCW gimmick name!" - Vince McMahon "So.. My real name then?" - Kevin Nash "No! .. Master Blaster #2!" - Vince McMahon

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

😀

@Heller103085

3 жыл бұрын

Vinnie vegas!!!!

@jimbowlan5804

3 жыл бұрын

Oz

I dont get it. They're acting like Diesel/ Nash is a gimmick change like Matt Hardy does. Watch heal Diesel in the WWF in 96 and tell me how hes any different than NWO Nash? Speaking of, how was Hall any different from Razor except for the "Hey Yo" intro to a promo. I think at this point we're just talking about ring attire

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@kaufman4life

3 жыл бұрын

I also think that he actually WAS going to return as Diesel in ‘03, because they used a different but still true variation of his Diesel theme, with mostly black attire, dyed black hair and goatee, then at the last minute, McMahon said “Nahhh, we’re gonna with Kevin Nash instead”, a last minute, on the fly decision. They may have also known about the movie he was going to be eventually doing that required a haircut, so after the haircut, silver haired/bearded Diesel wasn’t going to work for Vince

Which post WCW run? Jk but...

He can't possibly think that Diesel was more over or successful than Kevin Nash character wise. He just wants to paint a false equivalence because Diesel was a WWF creation even though Kevin Nash eclipsed that character popularity wise within 12 months of leaving in 1996.

What exactly is the difference between “diesel” and kevin nash ? N o t h i n g

Irrelevant to the topic here, but... Did they ever discuss why Chyna nevet did a program with Nicole Bass?

@chrischar9428

3 жыл бұрын

Because you don't have the blind leading the blind

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrischar9428 🤭

@jimbowlan5804

3 жыл бұрын

One steroid up lady aginst another steroid medicine up lady at least chyna looked good when she stopped using steroids

nobody in 2002-03 was looking for Diesel.

Kevin Nash was far more successful than diesel

Nash is cool but his specialty is being the bully character. He'd have been a perfect authority figure when they were doing McMahon/Hemsley

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm...HHH could've send him to beat up Test.

@joelarazza9976

3 жыл бұрын

@@Speedyreedy1218 that would have worked perfectly. Nash could have got test over. Jericho/Test vs Nash/HHH

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

@@joelarazza9976 👍🏽 Test was already over. But to give him another big name to work under his belt before they move him up the card. They would've had to get him out of T&A though. He was with Trish & Albert in 2000.

I don’t care what the Internet nerd say Kevin Nash was one of my favorite wrestlers to the 90s. From 1993 until 2002. The way Vince McMahon treated him, Scott Hall, DDP, Sting Is part of the reason I don’t watch their bullshit TV anymore. Vince McMahon is the oldest mark in the business.

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

🚛

@Zalzaz

3 жыл бұрын

get your facts right mark

@Goldenbane

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zalzaz Yeah, Kevin and Scott stabbed Vince in the back when they left for WCW, so I don't know what he's talking about.

I give Dave Meltzer negative 1 & 1/2 stars.

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

😀

It was lame that they didn't put the belt on Nash at hell in the cell. Even it was just for a month long title reign, it should have happened. The HHH reign of terror was in full effect and made Nash look weak.

I actually think Bruce is kind of right. I would rather have gotten Diesel and Razor back and Red and Yellow Hulk Hogan at first. THEN have them get their asses beat in matches against say the rock, austin, taker, whoever. And a few months in start up the NWO that way. They rushed NWO but i think fans would have prefered the older characters. Look at the pop they gave hogan for just wearing red and yellow. Or how when he posed at the end of his mania match. Or even years later when Nash came out as Diesel in the royal rumble in i wanna say 2011. We didn't need to get straight into Kevin Nash or Scott Hall. We could have gotten to that point in a new organic way. Have Diesel working with HBK and then turn on him to save Razor Ramon, two sweet in the ring. HHH runs down to save HBK and at Summerslam instead of the 1v1 we get outsiders vs DX. Hogan comes out and instead of turning on either team convinces them they should take over. Everyone knows what they're all about. Form a real on screen kliq. Not NWO not DX but the Kliq. Something like that would work rather than rehashing ideas you don't believe in.

Everyone mad at or hatin on Kevin is just jealous that they're not smart enough to get the amount of money he did in relation to the effert exerted for that money

@Ayyem93

3 жыл бұрын

That saying "work smarter not harder" don't exist for no reason

"Stirring things up" (pissing people off) is the sign of a sociopath.

Nash put his buddy hhh over

To me Kevin Nash and Hall was still Diesel and Ramon..idc..there was/is no different

@jimbowlan5804

3 жыл бұрын

I remember thinking when they showed up to nitro and hall and Nash’s first promo I was like that’s that’s deisel and razor

Diesel shouldn't have grey hair? Yeah, cause all truckers are in their early 20's...

Karate black belt lol.

Shane Helms being a stooge, imagine that(!)

I liked Diesel in 93-94, but he got boring very quickly into his title run. That year was awful.

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

I just got done watching 94 Raws and Diesel's world champ rise.

@ricosalvaje5802

3 жыл бұрын

He had no good fueds or anything memorable. He became much better after he lost the title being a big bully to the roster.

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

@@ricosalvaje5802 So late 95, going into 96? In his defense, look at most of the characters on the roster available to work with: Adam Bomb, Doink the Clown, Duke the Dumpster Droese, the Goon, Repo Man, Tatanka, IRS, Krush. The only established characters that stood out from that early wave of New Generation were Bret, and his buddies (HBK, Razor) from a chemistry and drawn interest perspective. Luger was tagging with Bulldog in early 95, and his whole Royal Rumble/WM 10 experience made him look silly the year before. Tatanka going heel the moment it happened was hot and unexpected. But soon after, wasn't sustainable as a drawing villian. HHH came in 95 and Diesel was still there. But it wasn't the time to pair them yet as the company was working on establishing HHH with that 1995-going into 96 win streak (which eventually got snapped by Bret, and then demolished by Warrior.) By the time Austin, Mankind, Goldust, Farooq debuted, Diesel knew he was on his way out anyway. So it didn't make sense to plan a long term angle. He was a victim of lack of strong characters then.

@ricosalvaje5802

3 жыл бұрын

@@Speedyreedy1218 I felt that Luger vs Bret in 1995 with Luger turning heel and feuding with Bret would be great. Luger was always a better heel than face plus Bret needed a strong feud in 1995.

@Speedyreedy1218

3 жыл бұрын

@@ricosalvaje5802 Hmm...To be honest, it was hard for be to buy face Luger in 94 anyway. 1. I liked him as the heel Narcissist the year before. 2. Aside from the cheap pops wearing Old Glory's colors, what's supposed to make us like "The All American Lex Luger?" 😑 Had some babyface forced down your throat vibes from me a la Hogan, Cena, et al.

Kevin Nash was a bore

Nash has always sucked in every way...

Very overrated

Nash was and is a jerk but thats who he is. Kilq were all jerks

>Nash didn't like to lose >Nash put *wcw rey miserio over* Pick one

Bruce needs to relax on the Meltzer shit. It’s like every time they mention meltzer he gets triggered and wastes time ranting about nothing

Wow this bored me close to the brink of death. Same as WWE these days.

Kevin Nash might be the most overrated wrestler of all time

@MrJRD827

3 жыл бұрын

Him and Hall added to believability. Sometimes in ring performance gets looked over for a good story line

Diesel sucked and Kevin Nash destroyed wrestling in my book

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