The beginning of the end of me watching WWF. Was way too much going on.

@TL2354

10 ай бұрын

Too much for your limited brain?

@Nostalgia9478

10 ай бұрын

Once they had 2 World titles, it became a joke imo

@cibida1

10 ай бұрын

@@Nostalgia9478 exactly.

@Nostalgia9478

10 ай бұрын

@@TL2354 Not everyone is a MENSA level Genius like you clearly are, Pal...LOL!!!

@ironman2326

10 ай бұрын

Same

Believable until the end when he says none of the old belts they got as part of the sale were cool, outside of big gold. WCW had great belts.

@kevinlee9929

10 ай бұрын

WCW US Title for dam sure was a good belt

@famicommike9014

10 ай бұрын

The WCW World Title that Ron Simmons (Faarooq) had is an underrated belt.

@HereIsWisdom1318

7 ай бұрын

The TV belt was cool and US belt, to me, is the 3rd coolest belt ever!

@HereIsWisdom1318

7 ай бұрын

Top 3 belts: Winged Eagle IC belt that Ultimate Warrior had US belt

@seannoble5810

7 ай бұрын

Take into consideration this is from someone who probably thought the spinner world title belt was cool. It wasnt.

They had an entire year to wait for AOL/Time Warner contracts to be done with. An entire year to plan the biggest angle in all of history. They fudged it. Almost seemed intentional.

@marksherrick

10 ай бұрын

of course it was intentional. Vince was not going to let WCW win even once he owned them both.

@TL2005

10 ай бұрын

Too be fair WCW played dirty during the Monday night wars. I could go down the list of why but if you know you know. Was it bad for business? Sure it was. But I also don't blame vince for saying fuck these guys and burying them for trying to take them out of business. At one point they were messing with Vince livelihood. I think being in his position there are alot of people who would have done the same. He didn't owe anyone affiliated with WCW shit. Definitely was deliberate

@night6724

10 ай бұрын

Waiting a year after buying WCW would kill the hype. People would’ve just like “okay, when is WCW a going to show up in WWE?”

@night6724

10 ай бұрын

@@marksherrickExcept that’s bullshit. Just look at the list. Jericho - Defeated both the Rock and Stone Cold for BOTH WWE and WCW world titles to become the first undisputed world champion on the same night and main event WM Eddie Guerrero - defeated McMahon’s pet project of Lesnar to become WWE champion Chris Benoit - Defeated both Shawn Michaels and Triple H for the world heavyweight title at WM AND made both of them tap out Goldberg - Had him defeat Triple H clean during the height of his reign of terror NWO - Were suppose to be the new top heel faction of WWE, however Hogan got a hero’s return and had to turn him face. They tried pairing a returning Shawn Michaels with the NWO but Hall was an alcoholic shell of his old self and Nash was too injury prone leading to WWE recreating DX again

@kennedywilliams2280

10 ай бұрын

Lol, WCW and WWF fans waited easily 30 years to see that. 1 year would have been perfect buildup. @@night6724

I hated WCW but I still wish Bischoff had been able to purchase it before McMahon swooped in

@Nostalgia9478

10 ай бұрын

I think Bischoff wouldve inevitably failed I wish Jerry Jarrett bought WCW

@jonbourgoin182

10 ай бұрын

@@Nostalgia9478 basically anyone but McMahon is what I meant

@Nostalgia9478

10 ай бұрын

@@jonbourgoin182 Fair enough!

@ShadowAngel1860

10 ай бұрын

@@Nostalgia9478 Yeah Jarrett would've been a better idea. At least he knows the wrestling business and knows how to be successful. Bankrupt Bischoff on the other hand bankrupted every business he ever started and himself twice. If he had gotten WCW, it wouldn't have survived past 2001 or maybe stumble into 2002 half dead.

@profshad3429

10 ай бұрын

He did try to purchase it, but without the tv tine on TBS and TNT it was worth nothing. That's why McMahon got it so cheap.

16:14 The WCW US Title has been better than any US Tittle the WWE has made.

@ingenone

10 ай бұрын

The current US Championship isn't too bad

@Joshuawott69

10 ай бұрын

@@ingenone no its not but the us flag with the eagle, the wcw us title is still the best us title.

@night6724

10 ай бұрын

No the WCW is arguably the weakest design. The current belt is the best. I’m honestly split on the second version if the belt and whether it’s better than the WCW version. But the WCW US title belt doesn’t stand out as well. I get it’s an older belt but it’s missing something tbh. Maybe if they made a modernized version of it would look cool

@kevinlee9929

10 ай бұрын

AGREED

When wcw died wrestling went to shit after wrestlemania that year

@TL2354

10 ай бұрын

You must’ve been dropped on your head

The night Vince bought WCW and Shane appeared on WCW TV also and it became clear that this was just going to be another Vince vs. Shane storyline... my interest in this fizzled out before it started.

Only a few things surprised me in wrestling Hogan heel turn Goldberg N Undertaker losing the streak and Vince buying WCW

I always loved the WCW rings and Logo best especially over them huge WWF ring and the steel cables

AEW is next the only reason they are still in business , is Tony Khans daddies money pit.

@shredenvain7

10 ай бұрын

Yeah cuz it was so great having 20 years of WWE not giving a shit about their own product or what their fans think of it. You WWE only fans kill me with how loyal you are to a company ran by a serial rapist whose only concern in the world is how much money they can make. How the hell WWE has gotten away with being an absolute monopoly for 20 plus years I will never understand. Honestly the loyalty some of you marks have to the Fed is comparable to what happened in Germany in the 1930s.

As soon as I found out that McMahon bought it. I stopped watching wrestling.

@undertakerfanz628

10 ай бұрын

I'm sure Vince McMahon lost many nights of sleep because you stopped watching it🙄

@johnnersinger9771

10 ай бұрын

@@undertakerfanz628 I'm sure he did scumbag

@davidcwajgenberg6185

10 ай бұрын

Yea for me that was devastating . Being a long time wcw fan I still kinda can't believe it and don't want ti think ofbi

@johnnersinger9771

10 ай бұрын

@@davidcwajgenberg6185 I knew he was going to shit all over it.

@claytron3000

21 күн бұрын

And here you are, back again.

I always wondered where the big WCW logo nitro stage from 1999-2000 went to

Obviously the back catalog was worth more than what Vince paid for everything. Turner execs were too dumb to see what content would be worth in just a decade.

@ShadowAngel1860

10 ай бұрын

They weren't dumb. It was a inside deal orchestrated by Brad Siegel (then CEO of WCW) and his best friend Stu Snyder (who worked for Turner, but around 2001 just happened to be the COO of Titan Sports) This was already set in stone in 1996 during the lawsuit regarding Scott Hall, when Siegel gave Vince McMahon the right of first refusal should WCW go up for sale. Already back then it was obvious, that WCW's days were numbered and it would ultimately end up with Vince some day. There were other, bigger offers. Bischoff and Fusient Media offered 50 million dollars, a short time later Jerry Jarrett with some investors offered 70 million, but Siegel and Snyder wanted to see the promotion ending up in Vince's hands. Not even 1 year after the sale, Snyder all of a sudden left his position of Titan and returned to AOL/Time Warner/Turner, were he became infamous by allowing non-cartoons on the Cartoon Network, a decision that was met with a lot of hate from pretty much everybody.

The ULTIMATE unanswered question is what ever happened to the territorial title belts (upon either closing and or purchases)...Bruce says "not alot of cool looking belts". Is that to say there were "other title belts" besides the "WCW" promotion title belts. Or did they end up in the trash like Tito Santana's 1984 Green strap title belt he won back from Valentine. Or read a vague rumor some promoters or even "(fans) got a hold of old territory belts.

@claytron3000

21 күн бұрын

Promoters or friends of promoters got the territory belts.

I’m from the UK and visited the restaurant the staff just weren’t polite.

Not dogging ya but gives me strong police interrogator vibes love it keep it up

They should of rebranded WCW with a Saturday night show and truly had a WWF vs WCW storyline

@ShadowAngel1860

10 ай бұрын

should have

@chrisolson2846

10 ай бұрын

100% agree., too bad vince's ego got in the way.

@tcbobb1613

10 ай бұрын

@@chrisolson2846 It was Ted turner Money that got in the way becuase WWF wasnt going to buy out all of the Guaranteed contracts for WCW stars.

@night6724

10 ай бұрын

@@chrisolson2846is that why McMahon treated underrated guys like Guerrero and Benoit better than WCW ever did? (Heck even Triple H and Steve Austin started off in WCW)

@chrisolson2846

10 ай бұрын

@@night6724 That's true. Some WCW the signed had great careers in WWF/WWE. But Sting himself said that when the Rock said "who in the blue hell are you?!" to Lance Storm during a promo, it convinced him not to sign with WWF at the time. Plus its not like Booker T or anyone else not names Guerrero or Benoit got treated like or got the storylines they deserved.

There rings was only 18ft which wwf Always use 20ft

I hate Vince but I do love how every time he talks it starts out with “goddamn pal”, especially the way Bruce says it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

If they found a network to pick up WCW what a storyline that would have been not to mention the revenue the PPV's between both companies WCW had some cool setups the machine opening doors was dope ,halloween havoc ,bash at the beach exc along with WWE more belts to go around more up coming superstars just a missed opportunity burying WCW didnt save wrestling it destroyed it tbh

Wrestling definitely went to crap when Vince bought the competition

War Eagle

When Thursday thunder went off dropped out of competition with SmackDown that's when the REAL SALE of WCW took place long before that Brother Bruce.

Was Heyman wrong?

And, if this is true, they bought WCW for less than 4 million?! Okay, it was over two decades ago, but a lot of people could have bought WCW apparently. Turner should have had an auction for the company and they probably would have gotten a better price. It might have been bought by Billy Corgan or another wealthy fan, but they may have paid a lot more.

@marksherrick

10 ай бұрын

Once the TV slot was gone, the options were very limited. They took what they could get.

@paulrobertson3079

10 ай бұрын

Yeah....like why didnt a wrestler buy it or a different tv network?

@marksherrick

10 ай бұрын

​@paulrobertson3079 no TV network wanted it, that was the point. It was only on the air at all because it was owned by a TV network that didn't want it anymore. Nobody that didn't have the infrastructure to do something with it would bother buying it. Vince was almost literally the only option at the time.

@onewarriornation602

10 ай бұрын

​@@marksherrickNot quite. Fox, NBC and ESPN were all interested in putting it on air. The hold up was upon Bischoff and his investors offering $50 million dollars Brad Siegel quickly nixed the TV. Bischoffs investors pulled the deal wanting a new deal where they could keep WCW on TV until they could negotiate a new deal. Siegel and Kellner both quickly jumped on McMahon's $4 million dollars. Of course Bullshit Pritchard doesn't mention that WWF COO Stu Snyder was College roommates and BFF's with Siegel and Kellner, and right after the merger was let go from the WWF where he went to work for Time Warner.

@pollard068

10 ай бұрын

​@@marksherricksomebody would've paid +4million for the video library, could've flipped that for more

Great Moment in time of A Promotion beating its Competition.

@mutedmutiny9542

10 ай бұрын

And beating themselves too

The day when wrestling died.

Sometimes after watching crappy WWE tv, I wish WCW won the war.

Dude 4 plugs in 12 mins geez

I disagree with Bruce. The US Belt and the tag belts were sharp. The TV belt was 100x better than the Euro belt design. Not to mention that they ditched the WWF light heavyweight belt in favor of the cruiserweight title. The legacy behind Big Gold was certainly a major attraction.

Hey Conrad, isn't this Bruce's show? How about shutting up and letting Bruce talk!

Greetings 😢

why has no one ever made a movie about The Monday night wars🤔

@DebitAdams

10 ай бұрын

It would be hard to put that in a 1.5 to 2 hour movie 😆 They would need to make a mini series of at least 10 episodes.

@tcbobb1613

10 ай бұрын

@@DebitAdams HBO should do it

@ezstreete

10 ай бұрын

Long as it's not a WWE production or we'll end up with more revisionist history.... Something based on actual facts by people who are not biased one way or the other..... DDP almost didn't make the "Best of Nitro" DVD's because WWE gave him a script full of falsehoods and they finally let him do it his way.... I'm sure this is the case with many WWE DVD's about any of their former competitors and even their own history....

Completely ruined the business. WCW should of been sold to someone who wanted to still compete with Vince at some point. Obviously it would if taken time but someone could of brought WCW back to relevance

@radioVHS149

10 ай бұрын

Eric Bischoff was that guy. He was already all set to reinvent WCW, probably even with a new name.. but when the new potential owners saw WCW was a shell of its former self, they immediately backed down and left Bischoff out to dry..

@onewarriornation602

10 ай бұрын

​@@radioVHS149Nope. Bischoff had the investors and they put up $50 million. They only stepped back because WWF COO Stuart Snyder's BFF Brad Siegel quickly cancelled the TV programming. The investors asked to keep WCW on TNT until they could sign a new TV deal. Snyder's BFF quickly sold WCW out from under Bischoff in under 24 hours for $4 million instead of $50 million. It was a shady back room deal that destroyed the industry.

@BrionTV

7 ай бұрын

@@onewarriornation602 I wouldn't say destroyed. Major set back for sure.

WCW went under 10 years too early. If it would have went under in 2011 with social media being around by then, it could have survived until it got another tv deal. Bischoff was going to buy wcw until Time Warner and AOL said no to keeping it on their network, which killed bischoffs offer. Had social media been around at that time however, that might have enticed bischoff to still want to buy it and put it on KZread to broadcast wcw, until he was able to land a network tv deal somewhere else. Of course this is all hypothetical..

@Patrick-kw8lx

10 ай бұрын

I always said it would have been so great ive they only got to 2004-2006 Bagwell, kronik, the wcw Legends,nwo Guys , kanyon , DDP so on and on could have had a perfect finished Wrestling Life. WCW died 5 years to early....

Vince and his ego ruined what could have been amazing. Yes, there were a bunch of guys under contract that were sitting out…that wasn’t what did it. It was Vince BURYING WCW and making them AND ECW look inferior and destroyed any interest in the product. What could have been… You instantly put WCW on TV as a competitor ‘run’ by Shane. Then Steph (or Paul Heyman) merges ECW with WCW and create a ‘super show’. Then…they invade. Run ins and pop ups to start gaining interest in the product but the shows are NEVER on at the same time. The ratings war is over, now they just want to shut WWF down. And they are not weak…the run ins are impactful and take guys out of commission. Then cross over matches begin on Raw and Nitro. Then, a PPV for JUST ECWCW. Armageddon has the first crossover PPV with WWF vs ECWCW talent. The NWO vs Rock/Austin handicap match takes place as the Main Event. This allows Austin to undo his heel turn and return to the baby face the fans have been wanting to cheer for. Then the Rumble has cross over matches and both sides have men in the Rumble match. Winner doesn’t go to Mania though. Winner faces their shows champ at No Way Out for the belt. Then No Way Out has a WWF title match and a ECWCW title match. Then…Wrestlemania X-8 is a true crossover show and breaks main event tradition since the rumble winner is not in the main event. The WWF champion meets the ECWCW champ to unify the belts. The winner is the ‘dominant champ’ and that show ‘absorbs’ the others talent. WWF wins (but not in a blow out) and now we have one true unified brand. ECWCW is ‘dead’ and now relegated to a library of memories. But the talent isn’t gone. It just found a new home. Backlash is the first ‘unified’ PPV and we have one main event for the NEW WWF title…the Universal Championship (undisputed belt design)

I know a lot of people hated this outcome with WCW/WWF but it could’ve been worse. Just imagine in the mid 90s Vince McMahon goes to jail and WWF and ECW is bought by WCW in the late 90s and then WCW closes in 01 because of the AOL/Time Warner. The wrestling industry would have no major promotion in North American. The only thing that would’ve existed was the indie’s and maybe TNA the following year which wasn’t a national based company.

@jdhoss153

10 ай бұрын

Fusion was gonna but WCW for 60 mill. Jerry Jarrett was also interested in buying WCW

@O-Creep_aka_Stompanato

10 ай бұрын

Somebody would have sprung up a new org. Whether it be a McMahon affiliate or an old players in the game like Watt's,Jarrets,or Crockett's. It wouldn't have just went dead for pro wrestling. Too much money on the table

@mattcaporuscio6956

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@jdhoss153The deal fell apart because of no tv time on Turner. In theory I guess they could’ve found another station but that’s what ended the fusion deal. WCW was is so much debt I don’t know who else would’ve bought it. I heard Jerry Jarrett but that’s a rumor so how much truth is behind it is anybody’s guess.

@mattcaporuscio6956

10 ай бұрын

@@O-Creep_aka_Stompanatoin 2001 who else would’ve bought it? Jerry Jarrett started TNA and almost went bankrupt immediately and he was bailed out by Dixie Carter and TNA was still a fraction of the scale of WCW even during it’s final days in 2001.

The interviewer is not very good. He just keeps asking the same questions over and over again.

I would have asked for a couple of Nitro Girls...

Vince got his revenge for the black Saturday debacle on tbs in 1984 when he bought wcw.

WWE purchased WCW due to insider trading

@mr.timebombman2230

10 ай бұрын

No they didn't

@BrionTV

7 ай бұрын

@@mr.timebombman2230 kinda yeah. Bischoff had raised $50million to purchase it. Snyder represented the WWF in this acquisition . Snyder at 1 time worked for Cartoon Network(a Turner asset) and best friend of Brad Siegal. Brad Siegal represented Turner and was in charge of the deal on the Turner side. Siegal stabbed Bischoff in the back and cost Turner tens of millions by selling it to the WWF for $4million. The new(Russo free) WCW would have run on Tuesday nights on TNT. The Answer that was given was that they dropped them from Tuesdays in favor of some show they wanted on the line up. I can't remember what aired on TNT on Tuesdays. Not sure anyone does.

I laughed so hard at my neighbors who swore WCW would win the war. Hahaaaaa and I'm still laughing 🤣😂😅

Bruce seems like he has zero passion for the wrestling business

@radioVHS149

10 ай бұрын

He always sounds bored out of his mind and would rather be talking about something else..

Who is still listening to Bruce?

@evergray5063

10 ай бұрын

Apparently you seeing as you left a comment on a new Bruce video an hour after it’s release 🤷‍♂️

@GetUAClue

10 ай бұрын

"The world Chico... and everything in it!"

@tcbobb1613

10 ай бұрын

MEE

The new WCW logo was way better than anything they had before. Vince is a marketing genius.

@michaelrose3101

10 ай бұрын

Looks like a Road Warriors outfit

@kevinlee9929

10 ай бұрын

That new logo was HORRIBLE

@ONEWRESTLINGNATION_OWNIT

9 ай бұрын

Bullshit

@BrionTV

7 ай бұрын

are you high or something?

I own a wcw ring