Morpheus in 1997: "HBK, red pill or blue pill" HBK: "Yes"

@PineView80

7 ай бұрын

more like Morphine in 97

Brett staying and Shawn leaving...might of actually been a Win Win 💯🤷

When ever i hear him do a Jim Cornett impression i cant help but laugh out loud

I don't know what Conrad would talk about if Meltzer hadn't wrote it.

@Matt-cr4vv

7 ай бұрын

Conrad has said about a billion times that he uses the observer to guide the discussion because it is the best resource that compiles all the events and rumors of the events that took place at the time in one place and that if people can provide a different resource that accomplishes the same thing to use on the show, compiling all of those things that you find in the observer at the time that he’d be happy to use that instead. But nobody has yet to provide the replacement for him to use, instead they take your direction and just whine about it. Hopefully you can provide such a resource since it’s such a bother for you? If you can’t then that should easily explain to you why he uses it and maybe you’ll stop whining about it.

@nick56677

7 ай бұрын

It's exactly why I call him Meltzers Soap Boy. FatRad has zero thoughts or opinions. He is a Meltzer parrot, an annoyance, and the worst. Can't stand him. Luckily, his health ain't looking too good for wheezy.😂

@Redhotshawntexas

6 ай бұрын

@@nick56677why are you here? Why torture yourself by listening to someone you abhor so much? Prett pathetic waste of your life, if you can even call what you have a life

It makes zero sense for Vince to keep the guy that walked out on him at the beginning of the year, showed him zero loyalty and was one of the most unprofessional douchebags to ever step through the ropes…

@theecharmingbilly

7 ай бұрын

Sure thing hitman

@asoncalledvoonch2210

7 ай бұрын

It's because Shawn was that great . Whether you love him or hate him, Shawn was the goat.

@ChrisSuswal-de9tj

7 ай бұрын

Shawn Michaels is an incredible athlete and performer, but to suggest he's the goat is fn hilarious. You need to look at the big picture. Curt Hennig and Randy Savage hit the mark on every tangible and intangible. Michaels is kind of a weak promo and a TERRIBLE Babyface

@catchcan221

7 ай бұрын

@@asoncalledvoonch2210No, he wasn’t. As soon as disappeared from WWF TV in April 1998 the company began it’s biggest boom of all-time. Literally 2 weeks after he disappeared the WWF broke the WCW’s 83 week winning streak. Steve Austin was the goat. Not Shawn. The WWF was in the toilet in 1996 with Shawn as champion. The Rock was far closer to GOAT than Shawn ever was.

@asoncalledvoonch2210

7 ай бұрын

@@catchcan221 Your going by Mainstream monetary success. In that case, yes Austin or Rock are the Goat... But just in ring ability, Shawn Michaels was the greatest of all time. And anyone that's unbiased with 2 eyes and a brain for pro wrestling will tell you the same. Did I like Shawn's attitude, hell no... But there's no denying his in rong ability and talent from 1994 - 1998. Even from 2002 to 2012 at 60% and as a Christian, he was better than 99% of the wrestlers throughout history .

Vince couldn’t pay to keep Bret, but let Shawn sit at home doing nothing for four years. Make it make sense.

@Darren-su2gm

7 ай бұрын

Shawn had a seriously damaged spine and had surgery.The doctors warned him that he couldn't wrestle anymore.Those four years was back healing recoperation .Even after he came back in 2002 he would wrap his back and treat it after matches.

@Darren-su2gm

7 ай бұрын

Watch heartbreak and triumph the Shawn Michaels story.Shawn and Jim Ross talk about Shawn's serious back injury.Shawn landed on his head smashed his vertebrae together on a flip over the ropes in a match with Undertaker.Watch the WrestleMania match against Stone cold Steve Austin.Shawn Wrestled that match in aganising pain.

@CharlesDarkson

7 ай бұрын

​@@Darren-su2gmHe also never did House Shows, or the Raw that was 24 Hours after wrestling at a PPV when he came back for his second career. At most he'd have done 45 to 50 matches a year from 2003-09. Most folks don't realise how much lighter his schedule was.

@Darren-su2gm

7 ай бұрын

@@CharlesDarkson Wow I didn't know those things.I still love his in ring work.I probably would have not watched Raw much for half of the shows.feom about 2005 on if he retired then I only liked to see Shawn,Chris Jericho,Triple H,Ric Flair,Kurt Angle, Batista,Chyna,Stone Cold Steve Austin, Haku, Stephanie,Mr McMahon,Mick Foley,The Rock,,Road Dog and Billy Gun, Diesel and XPAC,Some of the wrestlers left in the Early 2000's.

@Darren-su2gm

7 ай бұрын

@@CharlesDarkson Part of his lighter schedule was Vince McMahon allowing him more time with his wife and Children.I'm not on Shawn's side for the lighter schedule.I never got to see a Raw or house show live.I used to live near Charleston South Carolina.I wish I did.

I love how chilled Bret always is after he beats up his enemies (Shawn 👨‍❤️‍👨Vince)...

Wow, Bruce finally pulled his nose far enough out of Vinces butt ti give an interview, amazing.

Yeah Bruce ! More on Shawn and Bret feud that stuff was so Awesome and Crazy the Heat the rivalry the Sunny 💗 and the Matches that we fans could tell that the match was slightly a Real Fight because when we watch Shawn and Bret we could tell at Survivor Series’97 that shit was Real the Tension was there Sir

In my opinion Brett took it easy on his ass The Hitman is very tough you have to be to grow up in the dungeon with stew and Calgary he would have beat the dog crap out of Shawn Michaels

@Darren-su2gm

7 ай бұрын

Yes Brett is very tough

@shonwheeler9125

7 ай бұрын

Lol

Dave Meltzer is the reason Conrad has a career

@Matt-cr4vv

7 ай бұрын

Conrad has said over and over that he uses the observer because it is the best resource available that compiles all the events and rumors of the time into one succinct source to use to guide the show and that if people can provide a different one that accomplishes the same thing he’d use that. It’s been about 7 years now and nobody has provided that; so maybe you have it? If you don’t then maybe use your thinking cap and recognize that shows why it’s used snd stop being a hater. Notice when Dave doesn’t have it available but another publication does he pivots to that source. It’s magical how much logic can explain this stuff

@nick56677

7 ай бұрын

It is. Meltzers Soap Boy Conrad has zero thoughts or opinions. Slumlord salesman. He also only has this job because he married Flairs least popular daughter. Chat that up.

Can u have one video without parroting Meltzer? Meltzers Soap Boy Conrad. "Meltzuh writes, the only reason i got this job is because I married Flairs least popular daughter, chat me up as im in need of a quadruple bypass surgery because I cant walk 10ft without wheezing for air"

What's the "catbert" seat? Is that a reference to the short-lived show "Dilbert"? If so kudos, thats an obscure reference for sure

@doubledown0411

9 күн бұрын

"In the Catbird seat" means you're in a good position or have the upper hand.

8:42. Mr. Pritchard is a comedic genius......

@p__wing

7 ай бұрын

I mean I agree but it doesn't take much to tickle you I guess

@TL2354

7 ай бұрын

Prichard

He did leave with a "bad back"

Should have kept Bret Hart. Michaels was gone for years after 98.

@comments_from_me

7 ай бұрын

That would have gave us Bret vs Austin for the world title at WM14. Bret vs Kurt Angle; would have been great for the Canada vs USA angle. Owen would have been Owen instead of Blue Blazer.

@dmvp1889

7 ай бұрын

​@@comments_from_menah it worked out too well for wwf....

@ferox965

7 ай бұрын

@@comments_from_me exactly.

@ferox965

7 ай бұрын

@@dmvp1889 Would have worked out even better.

@arthurmorgan7086

7 ай бұрын

@@dmvp1889how?

The-question-is-what-wouldve-WCW-done-with-HBK??....He-wouldve-just-been-in-a-midcard-role-like-Jericho,Buff,Disco,Benoit,Eddie,Rey..all-the-other-guys....I-dont-think-Bischoff-was-a-huge-fan-of-HBK-at-that-time

Lets do a what if? Lets say shawn leaves for wcw at this point. Wwe is in a bad spot but wcw isnt that far behind. Add shawn to the mix and now you have the whole klick in wcw. Theyd run that game into the ground. Keep in mind by this point shawn hasnt had his back injury yet. So hes in full asshole mode here. And this is before the montreal screwjob. No shawn, no screwjob. That sets up austin and bret for a rematch at wrestlemania 14 in the main event.

@liamfenech6609

7 ай бұрын

That wouldn't happen with Hogan there. If anything he may have ended up booked like Bret was.

@shonwheeler9125

7 ай бұрын

@@liamfenech6609yeah Hogan was god in wcw. Bischoff let him control everything

Bruce must of been on the bearskin carpet along w Vince and Shawn the way he condones and supports Shawn's behavior and antics

Bret Hart should have kept and sold that clump of hair from HBK on eBay 😂😂😂

@Adam_Outdoors

7 ай бұрын

There was no ebay in 96/97 lol

@juice5435

7 ай бұрын

@@Adam_Outdoors true but he could’ve saved it and sold it later, or even sold it at a yard sale 😆 knowing the hitman’s animosity towards HBK back then I’m surprised he didn’t save it and put it in a frame 😂

If Shawn went to WCW I am sure he would have been dead by now with his drug addiction. Staying with WWE made him hit bottom and rise above his addictions.

Pro wrestling would be very different had Vince pulled a Tony Khan and fired Shawn Michaels.

@p__wing

7 ай бұрын

Turns out Vince actually knows how to manage a top star

@aleiterful

7 ай бұрын

Couldn’t see Shawn Michaels working for tony khan lol

@faw9148

7 ай бұрын

Shawn may have very well died if Vince let him go to wcw. I wonder if that was part of Vince’s thinking too.

@bryanmack4054

7 ай бұрын

@@p__wing the most profitable years of wwf was when Michaels was on the shelf

@onewarriornation602

7 ай бұрын

Nah, it wouldn't be different at all. The only difference would have been instead of faking a back injury in January of 1997 Michaels would be coming out on Nitro drugged out of his mind cutting incoherent promos while spiraling further downward. Eventually Michaels ego would have gotten him fired from WCW, or got his ass beat by Steiner, DDP or Savage and he would have quit and crawled back to the WWF whee Vince would now hold a grudge and bury him each week.

I never understood why michaels is considered a legend he just flopped around like a fish for 20 years

@onewarriornation602

7 ай бұрын

He was the first talentless internet darling.

@TL2354

7 ай бұрын

You can’t understand 2+2

@dmvp1889

7 ай бұрын

only bias coming out...he literally had the best match against undertaker

I can't understand why Shawn was indulged so much. I know when he actually got in the ring he was amazing, but all the whining and "lost my smile" crap makes me wonder why Vince didn't toss him out sooner.

@kellyweldon9054

7 ай бұрын

Because Vince was convinced Shawn was the legit megastar of the 90's. When you hear enough about Vince's thought process you can kind of put it together. Where Hogan was the same mold of 80's action stars and comic book heroes, Michaels was essentially Axl Rose crossed with a bit of Jean Claude Van Damme. Vince just didn't forsee the direction culture was going to go post 1993 and the full embracing of anti-heroes like Austin.

@hw5091

7 ай бұрын

Sure, to be fair Michaels was doing just fine before his back injury. I watched raw at times because of him, not any of the others.

@garrymclaughlan6433

7 ай бұрын

@doubledown0411 I often wondered that aswell, think if it was modern day he would be let go but it was a weird time, I don't think he was the greatest, was good and entertaining but not the guy to build a roster around and certainly not worth the hassle, had he went to wcw I believe they would have had worse issues with ego's and wcw would have still folded. I believe he is still a willy.

@FAITHandLOGIC

7 ай бұрын

Vince probably had the hots for him

@Zobrisdj01

7 ай бұрын

If you ask the Road Warriors they say it was a sexual relationship with Vince and Pat Patterson

That story about corney's wife keeping HBK's hair is creepy. i wonder what other weird stuff she has from wrestlers?

@jacksizzle8937

6 ай бұрын

Their pubes

Should of let him.go

Kind of a &!^@# move for Hart to swing someone by their hair, yank some of it out and then boast about it. _(especially if he started it)_

The reason why Austin truly took off is because both Hart & Michaels were BOTH GONE.

@hi-vv3jo

7 ай бұрын

You're smoking crack if you don't think he would have taken off regardless of who was there

@chrisedwards2822

7 ай бұрын

It's not like Austin beat Shawn for the belt or anything

@Wonderboy46Z

7 ай бұрын

Nah man! You’re nuts if you think that’s why SCSA took off like a missile. There was a huge change in culture at the time across America. The hokey “Mayberry” idea of good guys smile and all that jazz, had been burned off and there was a desire for the cartoonish old WWF format of wrestling to go away. People had tired of Hogan and knew he was a liar about his use of steroids and both Michaels and Hart were basically working gimmicks that carried on that tradition of what a bad guy or good guy was. Austin brought a real feeling of being a true everyday person to the ring. There was no more white cowboy hats vs black cowboy hats in day-to-day life for anyone. That’s why Austin got over. And he could wrestle or fight. Hart and HBK could only wrestle. Obviously HBK couldn’t fight! LOL!

@mikaice6046

7 ай бұрын

That’s essentially the same for hart and michaels when hogan left. Everyone needs fate to turn their way to get their big chance

@vikdaddy

7 ай бұрын

Yeah because he never had a match against Bret at WM13 😂 Plus if Triple H's push wasn't delayed, Austin would not have won the KOTR and delivered the famous promo.

HBK SHOULD GO OUT OF HIS WAY TO HELP MARTY JANETTY JUST LIKE TRIP H WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO GET SHAWN EMPLOYMENT AT WWE

@clarkkent983

7 ай бұрын

Jannetty is beyond saving

@fugetaboutit2050

7 ай бұрын

@@clarkkent983 oh yeah so was HBK & Trip actually fought to get him a job bc HBK called him and asked for it.

@clarkkent983

7 ай бұрын

@@fugetaboutit2050 HBK did help Jannetty get a job at the WWE back in 2006, but Jannetty fck it up by getting caught doing drugs

Imagine Hogan and HBK in the same locker room in 1997.

@bryanmack4054

7 ай бұрын

You know Hogan is winning that political battle, brother

@danieltarczynski6559

7 ай бұрын

@@bryanmack4054Hogan had the creative control so if it didn’t work for him brother it wasn’t happening.

You heard it folks! Bruce Snifffffed because Michaels was riding the white horse! Someone call Dave and tell him his credibility is back.

He's not doing cocaine?? Oh yes he was

I wish Pro Wrestling WWE would allowed Real Fist fight wrestling like Let it go all out No one goes to jail or anything just Sign a Real Contract with the company and allow the two Wrestlers Duke it out like C’mon! Just one time WWE and Bruce allow them to see a Real fight like WOW on Tv and stream WWE pay per view Fist fight Wrestling No gloves No Pretend just Go ahead and Grapple and slam! Punch him for real please 🙏🏼 this is the Direction the company should Go we fans want that Grudge Similar Shawn and Bret Feuding that Ring Beef 🥩 Like “Ah fuck you and Come this Sunday I’m smashing your rib in!” I’d know that they have Health insurance I’d mean Not go crazy but allow the Fight to happen C’mon WWE let them “Duke it Out” No pulling or break up let them Fight in ring with their Gimmick outfits and Attires Full match Turn Fist fight Boxing it out Duke and Hazzard. Texas style Wrestling #WWE #UFC #JoeRogan #VinceMcMahon

I WANT TO HEAR JR TELL THE STORY OF THE TRIP TO HBKS HOUSE WITH VINCE

@BUPMY1

7 ай бұрын

What happened?

@POLARBEARv1860

7 ай бұрын

@@BUPMY1 AT THE END IM TALKING WHEN VINCE AND JR WENT TO HBKS HOUSE WHEN HE HAD THE LAWYER AND HIS DAD THERE I WONDER HOW THAT WENT

Shawn's dad being there 😂There with the lawyer to discuss you walking out and being a dick in general and you bring your dad 😂 how embarrassing.

Tony MarKhan, since being a huge Mark of history, and as owner, GM, book, head of creative, #1 Agent, best friend, coverer of all bills, wrestling historian, and billionaire Mark, should see the reason why things take off ... You rid yourself of the oversaturated, narcissistic, controlling Fuckheads, and allow those who actually have true fans to rise... Except MarKhan has Fucked EVERY talent to the point of only being Marked on because of what they did prior to AEW. I hope Mox, Omega, Young Bucks, and....... Takes you to being the #1 promotion of All Time.

Oh crap Shawn Michaels almost left. He wouldn’t have been able to put the wwe on the map….. oh wait that was hogan He wouldn’t have been a huge box office draw to the point he made the wwe go public…. Oh wait that was Austin. Who gives a crap. He wasn’t believable and he wasn’t a draw

Bret is boring AF

I was the first view

@benjaminrealy5661

7 ай бұрын

I was the 647th view.

@bryanmack4054

7 ай бұрын

“Ohh good for you!!”-Christian Bale

@TL2354

7 ай бұрын

Loser

@radioVHS149

7 ай бұрын

​@@bryanmack4054it's Christian Cage.. plus he's from the same country as Bret..

Lol Vince was paying Shawn michaels something like 100k a MONTH just to stay home.

@onewarriornation602

7 ай бұрын

No, no he wasn't. He was paying Michaels $500K per year.

@TheFailedmessiah

7 ай бұрын

@@onewarriornation602 it was something ridiculous, but that’s still a lot just to stay home.

@onewarriornation602

7 ай бұрын

@@TheFailedmessiah No I agree, he should have just cut Michaels loose. For some stupid reason Vince though Bischoff could do what he couldn't do and turn Michaels into a draw just because Bischoff turned Hall and Nash into draws.

What kind of a sissy pulls hair?

@homedeezyfasheezy5662

7 ай бұрын

In a fight anything goes. Why you think so many shoot fighters have either short haircuts or are bald?

Bret was jealous of the Heartbreak Kid

@ferox965

7 ай бұрын

Um, no.

@undertakerfanz628

7 ай бұрын

@@ferox965 brush your teeth

@onewarriornation602

7 ай бұрын

Bret was a bigger star, bigger draw and better wrestler than Michaels. He had absolutely zero reason to be jealous.

@undertakerfanz628

7 ай бұрын

@@onewarriornation602 Bret only Drew in Canada he flopped in America

@TL2354

7 ай бұрын

Bret told you that?

They should’ve let that baby leave