Scott, I’m late to the show, but I intended to make some boards for the first time this weekend thinking I had a plan….. until I watched this! Well done.

@cornholecollective7116

Жыл бұрын

Folding angled legs with a leg brace seem easy enough but there are a lot of variables that can throw them off. If you’re not mass producing boards, the hang-off-the-table method is the best I’ve found.

Thank you Scott! You're without a doubt one of the best custom board builders on the planet. Appreciate you sharing the process

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Warren thanks bud! Sharing is caring.

Without a doubt the nicest boards I've ever seen.

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks dboy much appreciated!

Thanks so much. I love your style

@cornholecollective7116

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Doug! Cheers!

You are very , very good at what you are doing.

@cornholecollective7116

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Tripp, lots of mistakes along the way and no set is perfect. That’s for sure.

Amazing

Suggestion: Save a couple steps and run screws from the back side of the legs to the brace (although the plugs do look quality)

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

Good tip! I am tired of buying and making (in a pinch) wood plugs but I do like the look. I might start attaching from the back of the leg like you said.

Excellent work! Like your videos. Why the offset on the base, at the lower end?

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

Creates “feet” out of the side rails. That way the board isn’t resting on the bottom cross board. Much more stable on hard surfaces.

What was the placement of the bolt holes here? I recently made 2 sets based off your plans on Instructables, but I'm aware your legs are different dimensions in that writeup. It looks like the bolts are farther away from the playing deck here. Which way do you prefer since you've experimented with both? The 2x2 leg @ 3/4" down form the deck and 2.5" from the top of the frame worked out great...Just curious. And thanks for all the videos and write ups!!

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

The bolt placement depends on how raked out you want the legs. Most important thing is to make yourself a template for drilling the bolt pilot holes. I suggest holding a leg in place where you like it, mark the frame. Drill it and use it to make a template from scrap. Use that template for all future bolt holes.

Beautifully done. Is there a list of tools needed? I just have the mitre, drills, hole saw, clamps etc. I need to get a router and the extras to smooth and round edges, jigs etc. And a orbit sander im guessing. Im not very familiar with some of those bc ive never needed them

@cornholecollective7116

Жыл бұрын

I have a really old instructable with all that… www.instructables.com/member/MossBoards/instructables/

Hey Scott! Thanks so much for these really well done tutorials! I’m wondering how rugged the legs are... I’ve lost a set of boards to rampaging toddlers who like to run/jump/slide on them. Any tips for making em kid proof 😂

@cornholecollective7116

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, The strength of your legs, especially from little kids jumping and sliding on the boards, comes from the rake. My legs are a little more upright than some. When they’re too splayed out it puts a lot of pressure on the bolt. And the bolt holes are subject to breaking.

2x3 I bought plus the 1x3 side plus washer in between leg and 1x3 comes out to 3 1/2, i obviously need to go to a 4” bolt vs 3 1/2 bolt right or did I do something / buy something wrong? This is my first set of boards to build so I’m a little “drill” shy at each step, especially the legs! lol. Great boards and instruction by the way!

@jballz2997

4 жыл бұрын

Just realized where I went wrong... 3 1/2 bolts are for when you construct 2x2 legs not the 2x3. Headed back to hardware store....

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

4" bolts work great too! 2x3 boards are actually 2.5" wide. I'm sure there's a reason all the standard measurements are off when you actually measure the real-life dimensions of lumber but I don't know it.

@jballz2997

4 жыл бұрын

Cornhole Collective I don’t know why either, helps in some cases, does not in others. For some reason the 2x3 I got is almost at 2 3/4 wide, add that plus the 3/4 (1x3) side board and a washer and I’m at right around 3 1/2, no room for nut... thanks for the help!

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

I think it has to do with rough cut size "2x4" vs what comes out after it's been planed and surfaced. Lately I've been ripping frame boards down to 2 3/4" wide from 1x6s. This way they're consistent in width and 1x6s tend to be much straighter and cleaner than 1x3s for some reason. Saves money too.

Craftsmanship . ‼️

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

I think that’s intended to be positive Marty. I’ll take it that way, thanks!

@martyray518

4 жыл бұрын

Yes‼️superb craftsmanship !🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👊

Hey Scott are the legs actual dimensions 1 1/2” x 3”?

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

Phil Borland 2x3 lumber is actually 1 1/2” x 2 1/2”

1 question- I understand the reasoning behind leaving the side rails longer for feet. But when using 1x3’s or in your case ( 3/4 x 2 3/4) what was the dimension you held the side rails in from the front of the board to get the right height for the front of the board? 3”-4”

@cornholecollective7116

2 жыл бұрын

The frame, including the bottom ends of the sides are recessed about 1/4” is all. The deck height at the front is just a smidge over 3” off the ground. Lately, Ve been ripping 1x10 boards to 3” exactly. I like the slightly wider frame. It’s a little more substantial and lifts the front up about 1/2”

I'm wondering if you use a 1/4" roundover bit on the 6" holes, then is it still considered a regulation size hole?

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

I've never heard any rules about a slight roundover on the hole. I'm not trying to compete with ACO or big time builder boards. Rounding over is great for the lifespan and durability of the boards. Looks and plays great.

@FuzzyNaval

4 жыл бұрын

It doesn't change the diameter of the hole, only rounds over the edge. The bearing on the round over bit rides on the 6" diameter, no material is removed from that spot.

@carpe_poon5761

Жыл бұрын

Theres a +/- tolerance for ACA dimensions. I forget what it is for the hole but it doesn't take much off rounding out the hole with that bit.

Great video! What's the link for the wood plugs on Amazon. It's linked to a miter saw.😅

@cornholecollective7116

9 ай бұрын

Oops! amzn.to/3ZUkaPx

The Instructables page shows some rubber bumpers on the feet to prevent skidding. Where do you buy these/what are specs? How do you compensate for the added height when you are cutting the height to 12"

@cornholecollective7116

Жыл бұрын

Home Depot used to sell them, rubber stopper feet. The legs were cut about 1/4” short so the feet would lift the board to 12”.

Awesome video. What is ur cost to make them and ur profit?

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

Not enough to make a living on it unfortunately. With quality materials, OCD building techniques, and unique designs, it takes a lot of money and time on each set. Even with a higher price tag, the per-set profit isn't enough to start a business. I'd have to risk investing in a big time operation, equipment, and help to make real money.

Any concern with the bolt holes running into the pocket hole? I've found it makes the hole a little less sturdy and the bolt can wiggle around a little more???

@cornholecollective7116

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Bolt holes and pocket holes should not be in the same spot. It’d be a point of failure if (when) a kid decides to stand on the boards. The bolts would Im sure damage the thinned hole and no longer pivot correctly.

Since you build your frames with 1x3’s vs 1-2x4’s shouldn’t your height only be 11”? Seems your board angle would be steeper unless you adjust in some way for the thinner frame.

@cornholecollective7116

3 жыл бұрын

I see what you’re saying and the pitch of boards with 1x3s may be a tiny bit steeper. The standards for cornhole call for a front edge 3”-4” and a back edge at 12” as long as they’re not too slick, 1x3 boards play great. ACO and ACL national tournament sets use the same frame dimensions.

In the last frame of the video where you were kind off featuring your brand, the legs on those boards ran parallel to the sides of the frame. Did you start doing it like in the video for a reason?

@cornholecollective7116

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s hard to tell from the angle but while branding with the iron, the legs were open and the board was laying flat on a table.

@joeb.8993

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed the same thing. The legs throughout the video are either a different size and/or oriented differently than those at the end of the video at around the 12:35 mark. I’m also curious as to the pros/cons of one style vs the other.

👍🤙. But one ? Why can't you already precut the angle on the legs. Is it because the hole for legs might be off when drilling

@cornholecollective7116

3 жыл бұрын

Making the legs ahead of time in mass quantities is great if you have a system For cutting and building frames that are always exactly the same. Plywood frames and legs for example. I use solid wood frames and legs so minor differences in the width throw the angle off for pre-making them.

@armandoveloz5644

3 жыл бұрын

@@cornholecollective7116 got you make sense.

Been loving your videos , silly question but how for down do you drill the hole on the leg ? and from thr end of the board?

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

great question. I always suggest placing the leg where you like it. So many variables like how wide your frames are, if you use a corner block like I do, what rake you like. Best to place one leg with the bolt hole aready drilled in the end of it. pencil mark the hole where you like the rake. then make a little template out of scrap wood so you can duplicate that exact placement on all future frames. They need to be exact so the legs are at the exact same angle.

Sorry if you answered this and I missed it, but what angle are you cutting the bottom of the feet?

@cornholecollective7116

Жыл бұрын

It really only makes sense to pre-cut the leg angle if you have a system for building lots of cornhole sets exactly the same every time. Assembly line style. If not, leave the legs un-cut. Hang them over the edge of a table in playing position with the deck set on paint cans 12” off the table. Mark and cut your legs.

@geecee1990

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

What size Drill Press do you use??

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

Had to go check. It’s a 5/8” chuck.

Scott - aren’t the legs always going to be the same length and angle every time? Why do you have to do all that since everything you’ve done prior with jigs and templates have basically made identical boards dimension-wise?

@lucroan4246

4 жыл бұрын

The legs won't always be the same size. Sometimes you have a board or plywood deck that has a slight twist making one side different than the other. Only way to compensate is by having one of the legs shorter or longer than the other.

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

@Lucroan is right. If you were using ripped plywood for the frames or metal or something perfectly straight, yes, the legs will always be exactly the same. With lumber frames, there are slight differences in the width of the frame and a slight bend to them. Cutting the legs specific to each board ensures that you always have two feet on the ground and no wobble.

do you have the specs for the rest you made? Thank you

@cornholecollective7116

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry, the rest? Shop and cut list is on Instructables, search Moss Boards. Not sure if that helps.

@samterracina

4 жыл бұрын

@@cornholecollective7116 Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I'm not seeing "moss boards" on www.instructables.com/. Also searched on "corn hole" and saw a few, but none as nice as yours. I'm ready to hit the store and buy supplies. Love the boards!

@gregjimenez9979

4 жыл бұрын

I searched “moss boards” on instructables and this did not show up. Do you have the direct link?

This don't help no numbers

@cornholecollective7116

3 жыл бұрын

I understand that frustration, but unless your frames are the same length, have the same offset if any with the back rail, use of leg blocks, your round over radius, board thickness (1x3 vs ripped from ply), frame boards have exact same width, legs are cut to exact same width length and angle using someone else’s numbers can really only hope to get you close, due to some of those impactful dimensions being assumed by one of the two parties and then will still fall mercy to either parties ability to measure precisely, and drill perfectly centered perfectly straight holes. In my personal experience this causes more frustration with the assumption of a it being an easy solution that legs are then elevated into something more complex than they actually are. This is an area where doing it the hard way is probably the easy way. Hope that helps make sense as to why we currently are not attempting to provide hole locations.