No one gave Rachel a tissue because she didn’t shed a single tear! She was completely emotionless… the lights were on, but no one was home.🤦🏻‍♀️

@pamelacarbonell201

10 ай бұрын

EXACTLY!!! Bethenny didn't watch the reunion carefully or she would've seen that there was no remorse and no tear shed whatsoever!

@rageintothelight

10 ай бұрын

​@pamelacarbonell201 yep everyone else cried except rachett which to me solidifies she is in fact a sociopath

This was one of the BEST recaps! I was so mad at Bethany for getting me all twisted up with scandoval and doing it so clumsily, uninformed, and devoid of importance or using the platform to discuss the damaging acts of Tom to everyone's psyche - after this video i calmed into a scoots mcgee😊

Thank you boys because I really didn’t want to listen to the actual interview and I value what y’all have to say 😊

Shooter clocked B’s tea, she most definitely coached Raquel and it was not subtle. Love Steeles passion/mania 😂

i adore the banter between u two so much?! feels like i’m fighting w/myself 😭

Shooter is correct. if you listen carefully, Bethenny leads the "witness" by giving her desired answer in the form of a question. And it is obvious that Bethenny is out for revenge against Andy/Bravo. Yes, she wants to always stay in the limelight, but there is some anger/vitriol underneath. She continues to take jabs at Andy knowing full well that he is no longer an exec at Bravo nor does he produce VPR. He simply hosts the reunions. One thing is for certain: it is NOT B's deep care/concern for reality stars. And the hypocrisy is outrageous given B's behavior on RHONY.

So glad you are recapping this lads. I want to know what was said without hearing Bethenny's voice or making her any money (how many ads per episode, yet Bravo is the one profiteering? Sure Jan)

How are you guys so underrated, you deserve way more subs.

@bravbrospodcast

10 ай бұрын

Bravo’s contents best kept secret

Thanks for your recap. I agree with you two 99% of the time. Thanks for all of your hard work. I haven't listened to the actual interview and don't plain on it.

Almost at 5000, keep it going because it’s great to hear men’s perspective on these things. Rachel is enabled by her family, that’s why it’s hypocritical that her mother let her go back and back, because her Mom clearly controls her thought process because Rachel/ Raquel has none. Bethany is self serving and an opportunist who saw an in on taking advantage of Rachel’s vulnerability and Bethany exploited her . In my opinion this set the lawsuit way back. I was trying to figure out Bethany’s agenda, and here it was, once again all about Bethany’s relevance, her ratings etc.Bethany is a hypocrite. She was on New York when all these allegations were happening, she signed the contract because she needed money. Then, she got a spin off and during that time sold part of her skinny girl to Jim Beam for 100 million dollars. Now she doesn’t need the money but goes back for a second time to New York and says nothing about what was going on, nothing!Then there is Ne Ne joining the fight. She sues Bravo herself for a toxic work environment and racism. But, if Andy has a conversation with her and asks her back to Atlanta housewives, she said she would go back, REALLY, to the toxic, racist company.? Make that make sense. Now the money has dried up, join Bethany because Ne Ne closed her club, sold her home, has no job so now their are more allegations. I can’t take either of these hypocritical women seriously.Pensions, healthcare, residuals , yes. But then sexual allegations, revenge porn, over use of alcohol etc. is added. You signed the contract and kept your mouths shut when you were there. Kandi Buress and Margaret don’t drink. They didn’t pour it down your throats.And the common people that don’t make 1 to 2 million dollars a year, but have no pension, and pay a lot for healthcare and work more than 4 months for filming, can not identify with this. This is not a slam dunk and Rachel the porn was done privately in a hotel between you and Tom, no production with you on FaceTime. Where is this Bravos problem. Tom taped you, Sue him!

@TheBrownCowgirl

10 ай бұрын

Great points. I totally agree!!

Frankel's a hypocrite, always has been. Rachel's pathetic, it sounds like she just said a bunch of shit that turned out to be lies, there's way too much evidence that shows that they hung out outside of filming. She has zero self-awareness and shows zero remorse. Thanks for the recap guys, keep doing good things!

Bethenny needs to just own it Bravo is her life. I know she thought she would move on to bigger better things and in some ways she has but she can't let the fame go.

Just watching this for the first time after having caught on to the Bros recently… have to say that I LOVE Steel’s passion (and mild rage) and how Shooter can keep poking him … real friends, real bros… while I have not agreed with them on all topics that they have talked about over the past couple months (ie: Kyle and RHOBH), I always find them very entertaining! Thanks guys!!

I 100% agree with KC baseball cap (which should really be a Yankee cap). Love you guys. I apologize for not knowing which on of you is Shooter-I usually listen to your podcast and was so excited that your KZread channel finally appeared as I submitted awhile ago. 😍😍😍😍😍

@jacquelinerodriguez3213

10 ай бұрын

Should be a Philly cap 😊

I totally agree that the allegations involving James and Kristin should be investigated. What I haven't heard anyone else mention though is that we know for a fact that Kristin hit James on camera at Scheana's first wedding but is now staring on the spin-off show. If there is abuse, in any way, ALL parties involved should experience the ramifications. Abuse is abuse and one person should not be investigated and held accountable while the other gets rewarded.

@izmac9146

10 ай бұрын

This should have all the likes!!! 🎉👏👏

She really dropped the ball. If she wanted to profit from this scandal she should have hired a team to back her up and guide her and gone after Sandoval, not protect him. She trusted a narcissist. They have no relationship and he used her. She could have explained how he lied about his relationship w Ariana and manipulated her through the entire affair and sued him for recording her illegally. Bad move to go after Scheana and others. Ridiculous idea to go after the network. She is naïve, and not business savvy which is a dangerous combo for reality tv. The only way she can redeem herself is advocating for union rights for reality stars and promote mental health. But she is not the one to lead this movement. Reality tv is not for the faint of heart.

You guys are very smart & insightful. Love this!

Bethany is diabolical 😂 she absolutely watched VPR and is definitely not on Rachel’s side lol

If this was fake Ariana needs an Oscar yesterday. Was Tom setting up a new life starring Rachel I’m sure but… People are recapping this as if their affair happened on camera and while it was under everyone’s nose production wrapped and the producers of Beverly Hills picked up filming them when Ariana found the tape and exposed it in real time social media. Rachel was cheating because that’s who she is not to gain prominence on the show.

By the way, I’m knew to your channel, I saw you on Zack Peters podcast and loved all three of your commentary👍🏼. Right after listening, I subscribed to your channel, so glad I did.

I love when Scoots gaslights Steel lol

She seemed very rehearsed!!!!!!!!

I refuse to listen to the actual podcast to not support but illl support you! Thank you for saving me and being the best!

In all seriousness, I really did wonder how those advertisements worked for the podcaster. I still think Steel sounds like the guy at the book store on Signs. 😂 I wanna pop!

I'm not defending Rachel. I just want to point out how Ariana has always been a mean girl but everyone always made it seem like it was ok because she's the "cool girl"

What I got from Ariana was that at the reunion it was the only time she had the opportunity to confront Rachel. She said she doesn’t expect to speak to her again. She did say we’re she to speak to her today she would not have the same things to say.

Kinda surprised you guys (and alot of podcasts) minimize the verbal assault at the reunion. The suck it up attitude doesnt work for everyone.

Luv when the Bros Bro’s go at it 😂😂

Tom said on camera when they picked up filming again- I usually would have deleted that but it was a hectic day.

Been waiting to hear your thoughts

@bravbrospodcast

10 ай бұрын

Buckle up. It gets heated.

Agree with you guys about B

I agree rachett absolutely handled this scandal horrifically and is now trying to claim victim status. I still believe she is a sociopath and when they called her that in the reunion i 👏.

Steel should feel totally vindicated about Bethenny breaking up the episodes. I just listened to another podcast abd and they pointed out the exact same thing.

New sub from Australia 😊

“HELLL NO, I would NEVER sell my soul to the devil by going back to reality tv!” Well… maybe… for the right price🤔👿🤔

I don’t get the Rachel got it worse than Tom idea. It’s called SCANDOVAL, ppl who know nothing know Tom Sandoval sucks and don’t know Rachel’s name. There are multiple national ad campaigns making fun of him, ppl brought literal protest signs to his concerts, we cancelled white nail polish, he is extremely hated in the press and online. He went back to the show so of course over time they’re going to shoot with him. Rachel chose not to go back to the show. They made different choices and got different outcomes. Sandoval deserves it all but Rachel did not get it worse. No one defends Tom, many ppl defend Rachel. Add: Adele called him trash at her concert, Jennifer Lawrence said he had bad skin!

Please don't let that Bethanny get between the Bros!

Bethany was trying to make a big point by saying that no one gave Raquel a tissue at the reunion, but Andy gave Ariana one, however Raquel NEVER cried at the actually reunion, she had no emotion. Consequently, why would someone offer her a tissue? They wouldn’t! Nice try Bethany (smh).

Love you guys. I too have gone off the deep end in regards to that pathetic interview. I left way to many comments everywhere about this to the point of thinking I’ve lost my mind. Why the hell do I care about this? And yet , here I go again commenting about how I’ve lost total respect for Bethany and will always think she will only do these podcast and whatever else to make herself feel important. And she doesn’t care who she harms for example Rachel. She really did hurt her and only pushed her own agenda. Shoot, I’m doing it again. Blah, blah, blah… anyway , thanks you guys for your great shows I love them . Keep ‘em coming

@TheBrownCowgirl

10 ай бұрын

I'm like you, I can't stop watching recap videos about this. However, it helps me to learn that I'm not crazy because people feel the same. I used to really like Bethany and I hate to see what she's become. This was all about her quest to be relevant.

@izmac9146

10 ай бұрын

Exactly to you both… in the actual interview I kept having so much to say and prob left 10 comments/replies to the point where I was apologizing for commenting yet again…. It’s clear she is still lying her stance has NOT changed at all!!! This is still reunion Rachel with all her excuses! And Bethenny…. Just gross… might as well have had Howie do this interview too , at least he had a sense of humor after the fact!!!

@yodiggitydog800

10 ай бұрын

@TheBrownCowgirl, @ izmac9146 I’m so happy I’m not the only one that is way to interested in these people I’ve never met before lives. But, it so much fun to concentrate on there probs than worry about my own. I do have a question, Bethany has always mentioned how the housewives , at least a lot of them are all show no go. Well I’m really starting to wonder why Bethany seems so desperate to be a part of every story. Has she made some bad financial decisions ? I know I have, so im not judging but she is coming off unusually thirsty recently. It’s just a thought and I wondered had anyone else had this same thought?

I’m 💯 with steel here.

@jw0606

10 ай бұрын

Same. I was getting worked up too except in agreement, lol.

Bethenny had no idea the cast were all friends and it’s not scripted like the housewives franchise- she made no sense, made fun of the pain this caused. Rachel learned nothing in her overpriced therapy.

All men should be invested in Bravo as you are. Rachel probably didn't get what she was asking for so she's going scorched earth.

What I heard Rachel say about rent was she paid by barter- she took care of Scheana’s cat.

Another bravo podcast. Good grief. No one i know agrees w all these takes which is funny.

@bravbrospodcast

10 ай бұрын

yet here you are commenting on our podcast. Weird move.

@momofthreeboys3133

10 ай бұрын

@@bravbrospodcast i was just checking in another pod i listen to all the time. What does commenting have to do w it? You are all parrots but all good. Do you and I’ll go elsewhere. No biggy.

I think Tom has gotten a ton of shit for his role in this. Do you guys think he should have gotten arrested? And as far as his standing on the show and with the group, we can’t forget that he has a decade of friendship with this group and Rachel does not.

I find it rich she blames production when the whole season was her shitting on Katie and getting everyone else on board. 1 episode on Scandoval. Then the reunion is nothing but Scandoval. Where is Katie's apology and redemption. I have rewatched the show. She really has been hated for little reason.

B has some twisted toxic fixation with R and her situation. Neither are working with receipts. All B can lay at Bravo’s feet is: 1) residuals 2) alleged filming without consent/ dissemination editing coverup by production 3) alleged withholding of mental health advocate The rest was conflated convoluted fact less accusations. Bethany makes herself look mean, petty , sloppy and ignorant.

Racheal should have had a real team helping her. She should have worked on herself some more then collaborated with a therapist / life coach and or a relationship coach to do episodes on how I hit bottom- how I decided to go to an institution- what was the day to day of the institution- epiphanies- skills and tools - goals- She should have had merch ready to sell But she is more comfortable pointing fingers and being the victim. I think she got to the realization of the pathology of why she acted but not the full understanding of how she impacted others in a meaningful way. Or the tools to behave differently. It was too soon to do an interview.

This is how Bethenny spells her name, if you care!🙂

Bethany never addressed how Katie and her mom were treated.

Bethany did not even know filming had wrapped when the video was found. She thinks A has forgiven B Didn’t Jason Hoppy refuse to move out of the marital apartment? We’re Jason and Bethany cohabitating happily in love? B had so many opinions that were not based on anything shown on the show? No facts no receipts - just nonsense.

I love you guys. You two are like those perfect straight platonic male best friends that every woman needs but can rarely find. I love your takes on all things Bravo, and please understand I am not defending Rachel with this. Can someone please answer a question for me regarding the Rachel/Raquel thing? My name is pronounced Rashell but I am constantly called Rachael by folks who just see it in writing. When I was in Spanish class in both high school and college all of my teachers called me Raquel and told me that was the Spanish pronunciation of my name. If that is the case why does everyone think it's so weird that Rachel called herself Raquel if they are derivatives of on another. Were my Spanish teachers lying to me?

Shooter I have to agree with you, Steel was driving me crazy with his “ I really liked the interview, WHAT?!!” I found had to light up my white sage and I was putting it all around him to clear the negative vibes from his energy and to help snap him out of the Bethenny spell, lol🙄😝. I will never listen to Bethenny again, her interview was definitely Howie Mandel 2.0!🙄

@bravbrospodcast

10 ай бұрын

I think you got your bros confused

@energywellness8834

10 ай бұрын

@@bravbrospodcast I probably did. I’m new to their show. I agreed with the Brav Bro that was Wearing the cap😝😝

Rachel sat out the fallout in the facility. Other cast members profited off side hustles. Does R not have a team? It’s not Bravos fault she did not pursue a side hustle. Tom keeps performing shows withe band despite people showing up to nock him and poor ticket sales. It may be cheaper to fulfill his tour dates than to cancel and pay the cancellation fees.

Rachel would have been better off on Howie if she were going on a show that did not do the homework for the interview. Bethany tried to reframe anything Rachel managed to say then shove it back into her mouth. Howie would have let her speak barely challenged.

I dropped what I was doing to listen to this last night. It was the take I was waiting for. Question: Did the two of you fist fight afterward or have make up sex? Shooter gas lighting Steel had me rolling with laughter.

At first I agreed about the $300k being a lot of money however since she lives in California doesn’t 50% of that go to taxes and then 20-40% take from her management team ? leaving her with not as much money as we originally thought. so at first $300k sounds like a lot off the bat but her take home is a lot less. So acknowledging your point about too expensive of an apartment and probably poor spending habits it kind of makes sense she is broke.

There’s a 3rd one up already - it gets worse ! P.s. my bf and I have a sports card / hobby store , and I collect autographs.. if I send u my addy can u send me some autographed hats 🧢 ugh I would pay 💰 ! Love your podcast! I make my bf listen sometimes also hahah I think he enjoys not hearing a woman talk about housewives and especially vanderpump rules ! I make him watch everything w me hahaha keep up the great work

Tom may have planned this all, I don’t think Ariana knew anything. He did the same thing when he broke up with Kristen.

Racheal and Tom had a hidden 7plus months affair with I love yous exchanged. They cruelly mocked those they were deceiving and lied outrightly when questioned directly. R protected T and seems to continue to. She still believes what was said to her by Tom despite the lies being visible.

Love that Shooter is drinking a Stateside. Love them! The real question. What flavor is it? Anything but Black Cherry is a wrong answer.

I’m not convinced that Rachel wasn’t paid. It was mentioned at the end of part 3 that Rachel might start her own podcast. Perhaps Bethenny is helping her launch it? Rachel is getting some sort of compensation for this interview.

huge disparity between response to Rachel vs. Tom - women of VPR & others not helping the patriarch

@bravbrospodcast

10 ай бұрын

We dragged Sandoval for weeks after the Howie interview

Bethenny is an opportunist in everything she does, even B Strong. Ratchquel (ratchet + rachel + raquel) lives in the victim role. If she had any sense of self, she could laugh at her airhead personality and profit from it. As long as Ratchquel lives in the victim role, she will spin her wheels and lose her chance to profit from Scandoval. Bethenny is outing herself as an an opportunist and it's causing people to comb through all her past interviews and point out her hypocrisy regarding her time as a HW and her relationship with Bravo. Same for Ratchquel - Doubling down on her victimhood and the lies she was told by Sandoval, that she STILL hasn't figured out are lies, just makes her look more irredeemable and less brandable. Ratchquel would be better off shutting up about anything VPR and doing a PG13 Only Fans...which is as close to a pageant as she can get, while raking in the dough.

Spark plug and babbling brook...Brooks & Sparky!!

Honestly I think Rachel should simply do what she went to college for and just have a private life

She will sell her soul next season - she needed to hold Tom S accountable and really understand what her treatment was teaching her- it isn’t everyone else’s fault for her bad judgment and choices! Choices will have consequences and I known she will be back next season - # working the system!!

Actually -B did not let Rachel speak freely She hardly let R finish a sentence - very impatient with the Rachel pauses.

I have been saying it’s fake from the beginning. I personally think Bravo is dabbling in scripted content. I am thinking they collectively agreed on a storyline and Rachel was unaware that the cast would turn on her the way they did. So the “reality” piece is her reaction to the fall out. I think she sounds unremorseful, confused and quite frankly a little dumb bc she is mixed up in a toxic world. If she reveals the real truth-that they are following a script, that will hurt her even more. She probably feels like a victim bc they manipulated their plan w/o telling her. Does anyone else think it’s coincidence that Ariana is getting multiple endorsements? I live in Phx where there are lots of celebrities and you never see them getting photographed. There are no paparazzi in Tucson who happen to be catching her at salons and poolside…I’m sure this is part of the production. And even the fact that it’s a scandal that they had an affair…for her boss to talk about it…? Think about that in a real life job. There is zero chance this is real.

B could pay Rachel’s treatment costs with what she made off these podcasts.

Rachel is handing out TROs - who is going to check on her?

B= Huge Hypocrite with the pay. At least help the girl develop some merch. Halloween costumes: drag Tom as Rachel- 1/2 Devil Raquel 1/2 Angel Rachel- couples costume hamburger with cheese- Bambi Eyed Bitch Deer That’s on the top of my head.

Nobody shd b spoken to that way? What if some beach stole her man… wd B b saying the same thing if it happened to her? Not me! Does home-wrecker mean anything to Rachet???!! That’s what she is. Any sympathy for the woman who planned her life around that disgusting cheater?

Disappointed in Bethany… B stay in ur lane. Dr Phil already handles the crazies. That was beneath u B

Shooter did you drink Rachel’s koolaid? That interview shows she learned nothing at the Meadows! I really wanted to hear Rachel’s side, and was hoping she did grow and had a truthful more transparent energy, but instead we got Bethenny coaching her and we got someone that totally contradicted herself and lied and speculated throughout the entire interview. Both women had murky energy, for sure! I am not a Bethenny fan and didn’t watch Rhony, she has “I need attention “ syndrome and admitted she didn’t watch VPR and you can tell by the ridiculous way she carried on throughout the interview. She definitely had her own agenda. She barely asked about Tom and we wouldn’t be here if he didn’t illegally record Rachel! Is she going to go after him legally?? Who knows, because Bethenny didn’t ask that question!!😡. Bottom line, there were so many layers to Rachel’s deceit and it is so different from other cheating on that show. Rachel needs demand a refund from the Meadows, because she learned nothing from them. I really do wish her well and hope she realizes that Bethenny totally exploited her for ratings, attention and money in her own pocket!

I can't watch number 3. Bethany played Rachel and Rachel was coached through it.

I think this was a T off for Rachel to monetize her story after this interview. Raich and her parents are trying to make back the doe spent on her mental wellness hospital. The whole interview is I’m sorry but.,,. The only person she should blame at all is Tom for betraying her by filming her than abandoning her and using her to brake up his marriage . Than it’s see ya. And, because a marriage may look rocky does not give you the right to pounce while pretending to be best friends with the wife. She claims she and Ariana are not friends, but who told her own friends that she likes and trusts Rachel and will fight with friends who are mean to her. Ariana said that and was more loyal then Rachel had ever experienced. She feels no guilt because everyone got paid and that should take care of it. I was totally irritated by Bethany not even watching but she is the authority . She ( Bethany) needs to get off her high horse and actually do the work so you know what the hell your talking about. Bethany came off ignorant and like a ranting fool.

I feel like Rachel maybe on the spectrum

Just need to be real with you steal you mentioned that you don’t wanna watch James if he isn’t an abuser, but you had Kristin on your actual podcast and she is an actual abuser so don’t be hypocritical

I think you guys still talking about rachel the way the cast did which is insulting her intelligence and demeaning her is totally wrong. Just because you dont agree with her life choices doesnt give you an excuse to use that kind of language.. especially when you dont even know her. Its totally immature and toxic. This person was struggling with mental health clearly and yall just attack her. She doesnt owe the world an apology for a mistake she made in her 20s. Like yall are old enough to remember your 20s. I think shes paid for it enough just by losing friends...any additional condemnation is totally unnecessary.

@bravbrospodcast

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it’s our job to dissect these things. That’s our take. We didn’t think her approach was genuine or remorseful. We stand by everything we said.

@AskMarkWard

10 ай бұрын

There is nothing immature or toxic about having a take on observed behavior--you obviously have one or you wouldn't be commenting on the Bros view. As for Rachel's intelligence, let's be honest, the woman did not stop off on the way to her MENSA meeting. Having a critical opinion of someone is NOT an attack; otherwise, it is fair for us to say to you: STOP ATTACKING THE BRAV BROS! Speaking for myself, I have never hooked up with a friend's partner AT ANY AGE. Has she paid enough? Probably. So, if she is effectively managing her mental health and is ready to move on, why did she do this podcast? As for additional condemnation, outrage that she refuses to take full responsibility for her actions is deserving of criticism (since SHE decided to revive the entire thing by doing the podcast). She is a grown woman. Choices have consequences.

@dantecox820

10 ай бұрын

People judge everything that they come in contact with that’s called being human. Blaming her 20s and Bravo for her actions she was doing outside the cameras will not help her if she’s struggling with mental illness then say what you feel comfortable about that you learned in 90 day treatment which really should been at a spa because she just lied some more and play victim. Maybe you relate to her experience through your own behavior if so just say that but to trash this podcast that has given her a favorable assessment based on her actions is silly