Schwartz is so disgusting he was literally making inside jokes about Tom and Raquels affair in front of Ariana. I don’t buy his whole “this secret was eating me up inside” act

@Plantlady70

Жыл бұрын

He’s a worm without a mustache.

Love your emotional intelligence guys! I tend to side with Steele, Sandoval always seems to be acting to me and treats the show as his acting gig (his starring role). Never see actual tears, he puts his hands up or turns away from the camera. Waiting to see real emotion from him other than when he’s yelling at Katie’s Mom.

Tom tried to even gaslight Schwartz talking about ohhh it’s Ariana’s fault now.

Sometimes I feel like Sandoval never actually wanted to be with Raquel in the end. He just liked the thrill and attention. Then it blew up in his face and now he has to kinda roll with it.

@emilieLPG

Жыл бұрын

I think he wanted to relive his storyline 9 seasons ago and win over everyone with his new relationship, but he wasn’t socially aware enough to recognize the SIGNIFICANT polar differences in the situations

@emilieLPG

Жыл бұрын

Also the fact ratchet was a psychopath was an added bonus

47:33 So glad you pointed that out Steele. The way Graham ran up on Tom at Raquel's was some of the hottest tea of the episode and not many are pointing it out. I found that especially interesting because the dog that Tom and Ariana share didn't make a move toward Tom when he came into the room in the first scene with Ariana.

when it hit me was Ariana saying almost in disbelief 'and he was Mad at ME'. Also, when James and Scheana cried about their friendship with Tom ending. All three times, it was those three realizing like their relationship with Tom was a falsehood because the Tom they knew wouldn't act like that.

@emilieLPG

Жыл бұрын

I realize now that this convo was about when they were talking on the backyard and he tossed the can (literally not theoretically), but during that convo it sounded like he was mad when he asked her to open the door

I'll never forget my husband's or my midlife crises. It SUCKED. Hard. But we both got through it without any affairs or divorce. Tom didn't want to make it work.

@nettiea9384

Жыл бұрын

Agree. He apologized to everyone but Ariana. He literally fought and yelled at her and he’s the one that cheated and lied and betrayed. Ratchet is totally remorseless. She was sinister the way she betrayed Ariana. Ariana cdnt hv been a better friend to her. I never had a friend like Ariana. She treated her like a lil sister and meanwhile Rachet had a 🔪 at her back. It was sinister

@sharib9447

Жыл бұрын

Ha! lol Tom wanted it to work for years! He said it was over 4-5 years ago but he hoped she would turn around and want him. She never did. Sex 4 times a year is not enough. Obviously sex with your husband is not important and you both only need it 4 times a year. Good for you both. It wasn’t enough for Tom. I and millions of people can understand he needed more than she was capable of giving. She’s got a new guy and I bet she has done it more than 4 times in one month!

@newmarkrow8807

Жыл бұрын

Can you explain in detail this midlife crisis phenomena? I’ve been hearing this happen 9/10 times in most relationships.

@MrsOdie2

Жыл бұрын

@@sharib9447 Then Tom's an idiot. He could have left 4-5 years ago. Everyone has a lot of sex in the beginning. It's literally a drug high created by your brain in order to guarantee the species lives on. Tom needed more sex. Good for him. I guess his hands are broken. That has nothing to do with me.

@warriorempathshealingfromn5625

Жыл бұрын

Sandoval did not do the work required to keep his relationship with Arianna fresh. He did nothing to keep her interested in sex, he just let it go, confusing Arianna on what his needs in the relationship. They did not communicate with each other. Some how I can't see Sandoval being partner material as he wants what he wants when he wants it. I doubt if this hadn't come out, he wouldn't have told or talked to Arianna, it all boils down to Sandoval wanted his cake and to eat it, with no care or concern for anyone but himself.

Am I the only person who vividly remembers the many seasons where Kristen & Ariana slowly became friends…? Of course we didn’t see them become BESTIES like they are now but we did see them make up & become friends. Lol

@meganmcdonald1171

Жыл бұрын

It’s wild some of the details the fans harp on that aren’t actually important, and the details that are crucial are ignored. Dog behaviour is so so so telling.

Raquel is a sociopath and Sandoval is a narcissist. Great breakdown of the show. I found your podcast with the Doute interview and went back and watched all your previous shows. You both make me laugh.

@SuziSPSquirrel

Жыл бұрын

I actually think Rachel suffers from adoption syndrome and borderline personality disorder.

Rachel said that to scheana after wwhl because she is a sociopath and I think she needs treatment for that. She is proud of herself for taking one of the main men away from the main chicks because that is who she is, and I hope she isn't welcomed back.

@debbyvibbert3177

Жыл бұрын

Pagent rules. Betting if investigated Arianna wasn't her first victim of deceit. Daddy automatically contacts and threatening lawsuit to her victim. This isn't his first rodeo in protecting her from destruction of her making.

Suggestion: Move the camera closer to you so we can see your facial expressions more. If you look at the youtube frame, you see your table top, the door behind you the windows, etc. You can zoom in to at least your knees.

The Bros really shared their EQ with us. Having men’s pov is needed ( men who aren’t in their world) in the recap space. This is the 2nd pod of yours I listened to, and I’m impressed. Thanks!

I thought Doute looked great in your previous video!! Also, it seems she has matured a lot. Good for her. I'm still kind of new to your YT, but I'm loving it. You both do a great job.

To your bargaining point and the 5 stages of grief, I think Ariana does bargain in that first conversation with Tom when she tells him she would've followed him anywhere and she would've changed for him. That's a form of bargaining.

I love that you called out the white nails. It made him douche-ier.

Shoe sole touching couch violation 😂

james was iconic in this episode !! …. you guys are awesome:)

I think Kristen looks great ~ especially on WWHL. She was also very gracious toward Ariana for not saying I told you so.

@Lina_unchained

Жыл бұрын

I mean she's also said about a thousand times that this is not the same as her Sandoval and Ariana's situation so she has definitely grown from the Kristen that we used to see on the show.

The beginning of Kristen and Ariana’s friendship was covered and filmed when they all went to Mexico on Season 7. Episode 19 was their first “date”

OMG are you two straight guys who watch Bravo? In the words of Katie Malone, "I'm sh". Wow, this is so cool. I had no idea straight male Bravo watchers existed.

Tom & Arianna’s dog was all of us he was not moved by the bs!!! Should’ve named that dog Rosa Parks he wasn’t getting up & I was here for it! 😂

Watching the Finale, I cried so many different times during various scenes. Was so emotional.

I've been Ariana. My ex had the same excuses as the mustached worm. 🤬 He was having an affair for months and we had just bought a house.... It was all my fault and I should have known. 🙄 Too bad my crystal ball was in the shop. Ugh. Tom knew all of this was happening. He had already made up his mind about what he wanted months beforehand. The fact that he yelled and tried to blame Ariana just HOURS after she found out about all of this betrayal and BS is a new low. What a GD weasel. I will thoroughly enjoy watching his life go up in flames. He and the half-wit can GET BENT.

Psychology in Seattle did an awesome deep dive into scandoval. Definitely should have a chat with him

Bargaining was in the first scene. When she mentioned they could have done therapy. So I feel yes we saw all stages of grief. I know them all too well after losing my husband 6 years ago.

@meghanrambert3951

Жыл бұрын

Also when she said she was willing to go through with the embryo process TO FACILITATE TOM’S FUTURE WANTS.

@debbyvibbert3177

Жыл бұрын

Very sorry for your loss...was very telling how Graham greeted Sandy obviously very familiar.

You see bargaining in their face to face when she says “I would have changed anything about myself for you…” it’s fleeting, because she knows her opportunity to bargain for her relationship was a joke months before she knew what he was doing. But it’s there.

This might be a controversial take, but I don't necessarily believe that Raquel is a evil psychopath. I have heard that she's alluded to possibly being on the spectrum which would explain her unusual responses and seemingly lack of emotion. People tend to have an inability to receive social queues or read the room. Obviously this is not an excuse to do what she did but I don't think we can rely on her emotional response or lack there of as an indicator of her character.. especially if it's related to a disability. I also know a lot of people who laugh or smile when they are uncomfortable.. As far as Tom goes, I guarantee he's going to regret letting Ariana get away .. probably already does

@NationandState

Жыл бұрын

People on the spectrum, still know right and wrong. Only sociopaths/psychopaths don't, or don't care.

@adrimcandrew-jj8qi

Жыл бұрын

​@@NationandState which is why I made it a point to say it's not an excuse for what she did to Ariana and the rest of the group.

@jamielee8054

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think having an affair makes someone a sociopath. An asshole, yes. My sister is literally a sociopath, completely different.

@adrimcandrew-jj8qi

Жыл бұрын

@@jamielee8054 I agree

@debbyvibbert3177

Жыл бұрын

I find difficult to excuse Rachett. She knew from spending time with them how kind Arianna is yet smiles in her face and screws in her bed. I'm undecided if Fatal Attaction or Single White Girl.. she wanted to be Arianna without actually working for that goal. She dumps James assumed Sandy would leave Arianna instead invests in a home. Not sure plan was skin Arianna and become her or stalk and attack Sandy. I'm betting she's is pregnant or plans on becoming. Just waiting for the Tom's to come out of closet and raise Sandy's baby.

I usually listen to you guys on my way to and from work, but I couldn't wait for this episode (I'm in my office with earbuds in). This was an epic episode. I have to say that you touched on something that I've been saying all along about Rachel, she can cry on command about no longer being able to compete in pageants, but she has zero emotions about destroying her 'so-called' best friend's life. There's gotta be something wrong with her. I'm glad you brought up James, at first I thought that James was upset about Rachel, but if you remember in the episode when Rachel invited James to the pool party at Tom & Ariana's like it was HER party he said 'these are my friends'. It took James a long time to be fully welcomed into the group, so I get it. BTW Tom's 'panic attack' was pathetic.

Schwartz can read the room, but he chooses to pretend he did nothing wrong - tension - what tension- I never said that- Schwartz gaslights - that is his go defense.

I used to be a big Atlanta fan, but can’t get into it anymore. I watched last weeks episode out of habit, but barely payed attention.

First off, adore you guys. Been listening since the beginning. You’re the only Bravo podcast I listen to. Would you consider watching older seasons of like NY or BH? It could provide more context to current seasons. Also OG Bravo fans love the nostalgia. (Maybe take a break from the House shows). Love you guys!

I found you guys through Ryan Bailey, and I'm so happy I did. You don't talk over each other, and you don't end every point with "right?". Thank you for the videos!!

I love listening to you guys. Always very interesting conversations

Dying. Shoes near the couch are a huge no unless you want your feet ripped off

His panic attack was so fake. LVP is his business partner that’s the only reason he’s acting up. He doesn’t wanna lose that.

I do believe Schwartz got Sandovaled ( I guess he ran out of girl to hate). While he did not yell at Schwartz, his response to Schwartz pouring out his worries- he gets “Keep off social media”😂😂😂

I love sports and bravo so I’m really glad I found you!!! 5 stars ❤ I appreciate the male perspective. Great listen!!!

re: Kristen...footage of her may have been limited or not shown @ all (in the past) because she & LVP are NOT good. Lisa does not like or support Kristen in any way because of the previous season outbursts. This also makes me wonder if Kristen can or will really come back next season??? Time will tell but remember what Oliver said....nothing happens without LVP's knowledge & approval. No wonder K says she's not coming back because it would be surprising if LVP allowed it. Also, did I miss it or did u guys not speak about Scandovals comment about the video on his phone that started all this unraveling...normally I would delete something like this...what? Did he just admit what I think he did? Unreal. Great work on commenting...keep it up!!!!

What I detested most was Tom trying to normalize his cheating… I needed to feel alive… Rachel was a good friend? she shd hv known! Nonsense!

Not defending Rachel at all, but her non-emotional reactions that seem so inappropriate is a key behavior/symptom of autism. And if you recall, during March just after the affair was "announced", she had publicly posted a supportive comment to a fellow pageant contestant who had decided to come out with her being on the autism spectrum. Food for thought.

@twinklemagic024

Жыл бұрын

People on the spectrum do NOT use and manipulate people, without care, concern or remorse. In most cases, people on the spectrum are the exact OPPOSITE of Rachel. She is sociopathic. NOT autistic.

@zh2473

Жыл бұрын

I totally believe she is autistic😢

Love you guys

James LOVES Rock hell

Good morning you guys!😊

Yup the LVP scene was the only one where I cried too. Very raw.

Will watch RHONY if there is a new cast. I am over with the OG’s. Not interested in what they are doing now. New cast please

Guys, I know that you're joking, but just for your info, Andy has been doing "rose & thorn" on WWHL long before you guys picked up a mic. If you google it, you'll see him asking the question a few times in 2019. So, who stole from whom? It is you guys that are flattering him. Cheers, guys! Shooter, get your feet off the couch!

@bravbrospodcast

Жыл бұрын

Nah he totally stole it from us

@AskMarkWard

Жыл бұрын

@@bravbrospodcast 😂

He lied on the Howie Mandell show. From beginning to end. He is, in fact, far worse a person than people realize. He had other affairs, too. There is a nice Easter egg with Billie-Lee to be found. Watch the end of S6 beginning of S7 to see it unfolding. #vanderpumprules

Everything said in the podcast was on point

When Racheal questioned if Tom had her best interest in mind- you can tell she had talked to her parents and the slowly and repeatedly listed the red flags and moral failures ( like on the girls trip, when Katie explains not to use foil in the microwave)

Thank you. Now guys. The weak Tom lol. Went on a double date vacation with his girl Joe. And the cheating couple He would have kept the secret for 25 years NO DOUBT. it was a joke to both of them. Women are an object to them to show other men “look how cool I am, by my girls sexiness”. Period. 🤭🤷🏼‍♀️

@debbyvibbert3177

Жыл бұрын

Sadly both downgraded.

It bothered me also. As we watch the cast over the years we really watch them grow as a person and obviously age! With Kristen we haven’t seen her for years. She’s still beautiful and no woman should ever be body shamed by anyone especially the viewers

Lmao Tech Bros, next time default to “did you turn it off and on again?”

Rachel is definitely a few fries short of a happy meal

OMG I love you guys...😂

I feel like doute and Ariana have been friends for a while? Like their relationship seemed to flourish while still on the show?

So at 24:00 I think you’re spot on, I think that a couple of days past, Ariana has talk to her friends and compartmentalized her feelings. And watching her on the view I believe she said what started to piss her off, was that he was trying to cry when the only emotion he had given her for the last two days was anger at her. As if it was her fault that this was all happening. If there is a picture for narcissist, Tom Sandoval Hass to be that picture.

I always thought that Ariana was way outta Sandy's league

The bargaining could be how she told him what she needed and how she met him on his level for how he needs to connect. Wanting to work on the relationship, couples therapy 🤷🏾‍♀️

barganing: arianna said she would have changed anything for him to make him happy… boom!

Doute is grown. She's fine. 😊

@mas765

Жыл бұрын

Also... I do love your commentary! You bring sports talk passion to the Bravoverse! Cool and fun!

And btw why did Sandigross buy a house with A if he was sooooo miserable with Ariana? He’s a pathological liar

I’ve been a bravo watcher for many a year, and also a NJ watcher, but the VPR drama has ruined us now. I haven’t watched Jersey this season, and have heard about his sweaty red face and pasta induced fit in the finale and still feel indifferent. Yet if a Tom did that you best believe we’re going full internet on it.

Im with Shooter with regards to the "panic attack".

I 😂 when Sandoval sandovaled Schwartz : the repo se to Schwartz pouring out his worries - “Stay off social media”

Hi just wondering what Microphones you use - the sound is great

When it’s that dark u do spill the beans and tell Ariana.

Bargaining: Ariana did say I would have done anything to fix the relationship and made any changes he wanted.

I hear what you’re saying about the opening seeming like something that should be a private moment. Normally, I would agree, but these two have been hiding issues in their relationship since Miami girl. when they were supposed to be sharing their personal life, they swept their dirt under the rug, attacked anyone who pointed it out, and were telling other people how to live sanctimoniously. Karma.

@emilieLPG

Жыл бұрын

Plus they had two days of him being an absolute dick to her not apologizing, she probably welcomed the cameras

I noticed Andy’s use of the “rose” too! I assumed you guys got it from him. I too don’t watch it enough to know if he regularly says that.

@sydneyelizabeth98

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's typical on WWHL, but I know he used to do it on Housewives reunions

@charlottedhall1

Жыл бұрын

He does use it on the reunions.

I feel like Schwartz cheated on Katie a lot and Sandoval covered for him so schwartz had to repay the favor

Lisa is not moved to tears easy. She is very English

Tom and Tom collectively blew up their reputations. LVP should buy them out and rename the restaurant Bomb Bomb 💣

Sandoval wanted to finish with Arianna and used raquel and he is already after moving on. Everyone is after big money 💰on this. Arianna is winning.

@debbyvibbert3177

Жыл бұрын

He needs to stop playing band and sell interests in both bars pay off the 2nd mortgage allowing house sold and Arianna free of him permanently. He'll end up at Rachetts studio apartment with her pregnant sharing bed with Graham, newborn and rachett....You reap what you sown.

I find it hard to believe Adriana had no clue..she used to be pretty observant

@meganmcdonald1171

Жыл бұрын

Parallel to this she had just lost, back to back, her dog of almost 20year old dog and grandmother. She had enough on her plate.

❤yesss!

Agree Tom’s a lil beach!!!! Ariana is an adult. She has friends she rose above the devastation. A phoenix rising frm the ashes.

Where was the watch party?

Bargaining with freezing her eggs. This stage played out over a few episodes.

No Schwartz coddling shall be tolerated! He knew the entire time 10000%%%

@robinhinson4681

Жыл бұрын

I kinda feel sorry for Schwartz. According to Jax in another interview, he himself has been thru a lot of personal problems with his going thru a divorce, dad being sick, brother problems, etc. I mean come on, how much is someone can one person take on.

15:02 how about a Big Brother bravo pod edition

Raquel. Her bizarre adoption background. F..ked her up for life.

🎉bring back Kristen!🎉

Im 99% certain Sandoval cheated on Arianna over a hundred times since they have been together. Just a gut feeling.

There is something wrong with the volume. I can't hear your 😮

@bravbrospodcast

Жыл бұрын

Let us know if it’s fixed, we’re not seeing any errors on our end! But let us know so we can fix it!!

@Bota29ayo

Жыл бұрын

@@bravbrospodcast sounds good here!

I don’t think anybody expects Schwartz to not keep Sandovals secrets. But the problem is he became complicit and an active participate in this affair. That’s where if it was my friend I would say listen, I’m never gonna say anything except you need to do the right thing, and I don’t want any part of it. Don’t use me as an excuse. Don’t bring your girlfriend around me, but they were going on trips to Big Sur. This was not the shameful thing it should’ve been, because Sandoval told him that they are practically roommates. Yet Schwartz somehow knew not to tell her anything or to say hey sorry that you guys aren’t really together anymore. They’re excuses have been just ridiculous and unacceptable.

I'm a year late but...this is why Canadians don't wear shoes in the house. Keep them off my couch.

Ratchet wil be back. Im looking forward to see who she goes after next. Plus I want to see her get dragged for the entire season.

Does everyone else have sound?

@bravbrospodcast

Жыл бұрын

We’re not seeing any errors on our end, let us know if you still can’t hear we’ll try to sort it out for you!

@brunamartins189

Жыл бұрын

@@bravbrospodcast I have no sound on headphones or phone, I'll try on the PC. Thanks guys! Love your videos!

@vivilavoie9695

Жыл бұрын

No sound half way thru

My husband said I’m sorry but Raquel was her BEST FRIEND??? Her best friend?? That’s questionable choices right there I said oh shit babe 😂 He was like who would wanna be friend that air head I said I know it would be hard. Eeeek.

I’m convinced Raquel is autistic, not to excuse her behavior but I work with adults with IDD & she’s exhibiting all the common behaviors.

😂 As much as I LOOOVE the image of Scumdoval using ChatGPT to write his apologies, a simple question to ChatGPT disproves this theory as it unfortunately has NO clue about this or any event after Sept 2021 when it was last given its "knowledge update." So unless they were using a diff AI, Tom really IS just that stupid and uncaring towards Ariana 🤡

40 yr old virgin moment 🤣😂🤣😂

Schwartz shd hv said sorry to ariana… sorry I knew and didn’t tell u A! Was not right! Animals!!!

Everything Tom said was bullshit! He and Rachel were having the time of there lives! No crisis until they got caught! They are simply two horrible humans and deserve all the bad they get! Id love to know what friends he thought he was going to keep when this came out, id love to know those convos he had with Rachel, i know they thought sheana was gonna take his side cause she's so easily swayed!

Those losers commenting on Kristen's look are the same people use filter on their photos and think they look good. Get a life

Hate to tell you, but men are way more emotional than women.

I like your show and I want to continue watching. Please don't take this in a negative way but do you guys know a few more mature words that are in the English dictionary. It's like you don't know any grown up words. Tired of sh_ _ and fu_ _.

@priyarose3817

Жыл бұрын

Are you just trying to get their thorn? What do you mean by, “more mature words”…

@Bota29ayo

Жыл бұрын

That’s how we talk in philly and we don’t care, don’t like it don’t watch 👋🏻 Btw PAT it’s really backhanded and condescending to tell someone they’re not using “mature words”, basically insulting their intelligence

@jamielee8054

Жыл бұрын

Maybe this isn’t the pod for you. I use the word f@ck like a comma 🤷‍♀️

@patjay2427

Жыл бұрын

Ok. I'll unsubscribe and I won't watch. Thanks for the advice.

i am so glad i found this video!! i never seen this channel before, hot guys talking about my favorite type of tv shows is giving me LIFEE!! new subscriber, love it!! 🫶🏻💕🎀