Rachel saying “hoping for the best, preparing for the worst” is such a pageant answer.

Lala is saying all the things to Tom that she wants to say to Randall but can't because of the custody issues. And Lala is right about saying that Tom is Randall in 10 years if he doesn't make a change. 🤷‍♀

I’ve watched many a Pump Rules reunion and Sandoval has always gone after the women, especially Katie. So I get why Lala is upset.

Katie didn’t hook up with anyone IN their house. She hooked up with people while they were both LIVING in the house.

Looking into the future, when Sandoval is bitching at the reunion when they're on break about the cameras in his face, what is really going on is that he wants to be alone with Rachel to tell her what to say. Adjust the gameplan mid game. That he desperately needs to update her and tweak the story but he can't be caught doing it. And I think that's where the temper tantrum actually stems from.

@pamelacarbonell201

Жыл бұрын

exactly!!!!!!!

@Cynthia.Montreal

Жыл бұрын

Good point

@shashamarie4760

Жыл бұрын

Wow. Impressive. You are definitely right. 😮

@HerJourneyToWellness

Жыл бұрын

And you were spot on about it!!

With as many times as Racquel and Sandoval came for Lala calling her a mistress, I really can't blame her, that and Sandoval saying she got knocked up with her daughter

@vuyomji9298

Жыл бұрын

I agree, and that's the real reason she is so hyped.

@MsJuliaSugarbaker

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I don’t see how they keep missing this

@bravbrospodcast

Жыл бұрын

No one missed anything. We said multiple times we understand where it’s coming from and it’s warranted. We explained thoroughly that we just thought it would be more effective to force Sandoval to actually answer the questions instead of yelling at him.

@sydneyelizabeth98

Жыл бұрын

@@bravbrospodcast Yeah, I didn't think you guys missed it at all! I've seen a lot of people online saying it's not warranted at all and I think they forget that Sandoval has done things to poke the bear that is Lala even if this cheating doesn't directly impact her.

@MsJuliaSugarbaker

Жыл бұрын

@@bravbrospodcast first thanks for responding! Most people don’t pay attention to the comments. The issue I have with your stance as it relates to LaLa is that you all constantly are critical about her without taking account all that she has endured on this show. It’s almost as if her strength is a downfall and he prevents others from giving her empathy because she stands up for herself. Your critics have not been limited to just this episode. You all slammed her for being mean to Rachel but she clearly saw something others didn’t.

At 57:19, you both are too lenient on Schwartz. That guy throws Katie under the bus every time. He tries to trigger her, talk over her, stick up for people who aren't her, make fun of her, and then get pissed off when James stands up for her. Schwartz married Katie to stay on the show, verbally abuse her, and drinks until he blacks out to cheat on her. He never respected Katie. He also does that Sandoval "I'm sorry, but..." BS.

@geribentley

Жыл бұрын

He is all that and more. A fish has more of a spine than Tom has. He is one insecure child.

@ArcherGinger

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

They should’ve given Racheal toy blocks. She looked like a teenager in love watching her fav boy band

@jamielee8054

Жыл бұрын

She sure did 🤣

As far as the Something About Her opening is concerned, they are almost done with the shop. Most of the big stuff is in and decorated. They are just waiting on a few bits and bobs to come in.

I love listening to Two rational well-spoken people talkin about Bravo shows. Great job

Schwartz’s WWHL was after the reunion because Andy asked him what he thought about the reunion.

I give the episode an 8 or 9. I loved the Peacock version. Sorry but Sandoval deserves the heat that he got.

@bravbrospodcast

Жыл бұрын

No reason to apologize. We said multiple times throughout the episode he deserves all of it. We just thought I would be more effective to actually make him answer and squirm

So Skankdaval is tired of getting yelled at??? Maybe it’s payback for all the years that he yelled at Katie and Lala, especially Katie! He is absolutely disgusting!

I’m pretty sure both Lala and Ariana have gone thru therapy and they know if u give a narcissist a chance to manipulate the narrative, they thrive on that, and they’ll manage to actually convince people about their narrative and that’s why Ariana said as soon as she found out about the affair, she text people to tell them bcuz she didn’t want to give Sandoval a chance to manipulate her into not saying anything, like he must’ve done in the past, that’s why Lala and Ariana kept going for his throat as soon as Sandoval started speaking bcuz they understand narcissists, maybe thru the therapy they’ve had, I think people who have been emotionally, psychologically and/or mentally abused by a narcissist understand where they’re coming from with not letting him speak, it’s traumatizing and their abusive and manipulative behavior does fill you with rage once you realize just how manipulative they were the whole time you were with them, keep in mind how Sandoval spun the Miami girl story, and went after every woman who went against him to try to make them look like they were the crazy ones - Kristen, Katie, Stassi, Lala etc..

Sandoval has gone after Lala & Katie for years. I don’t care how hard either of them go at him. He has been vicious to them when neither of them have EVER done anything to him. & this is the first time the cast has seen them after Scandoval, of course they were heated. If they wanted a more tame reunion, they should have delayed it (at least until after the restraining order was dropped)

@BRhymesss

Жыл бұрын

Yep! And they haven’t been able to ream him the way he deserved bc of Ariana being his partner. No reason to hold back now 🤷🏻‍♀️

@bravbrospodcast

Жыл бұрын

It’s not that he doesn’t deserve all the smoke. It just would be more effective if you force him to answer for his actions.

@YasmineB2468

Жыл бұрын

@@bravbrospodcast I agree with that point. I wish they would have delayed it a bit so tensions wouldn’t be so high. - Also, the point of the one-on-ones was to allow him/them to talk uninterrupted.

@KalEl23

Жыл бұрын

@@bravbrospodcast I get what you guys are saying but I respectfully reject it. Tom has always been one of the loudest. Going after Katie and LaLa. So finally fans are happy he is getting it back. We don’t need both Tom’s giving there rehearsed lies. Finally Karma!!!!!

Scheana only likes sitting on that side of the stage so it shows her good side. You can see her say that on season 9 reunion. Also it is mentioned several times throughout the series that she only likes to take pictures on her good side. Unfortunately for this reunion she was stuck next to Tom and Tom.

Top Chef listener here! Would LOVE to hear your take on Top Chef. I don't know about starting from the beginning (show evolved A LOT from season 1), but you two would have such a fresh analysis of this show. Please consider it for this Summer.

"Were you silent or were you silenced" quote straight from Oprah's Harry and Meghan interview

Great recap! I thought the sound was much better on this episode. Kind of new here, but really enjoy your perspectives.

Love that you brought up the engagement “Rachella” I think it goes back to then as well!!!! Love y’all!!!

People tuned into the wedding because we thought it was the reunion 😂 then we just sat thru it

First season RHONY 🎉🎉🎉

If you're going to go back into the faults, Below Deck Sailing Yacht is only on season 4, and it is the best one, in my opinion. The first season is aiight but season 2-4 (the current one) has many returning cast members, and they vibe really well together. Also, for Steele, some of the chefs on there are awesome.

@kathyp1754

Жыл бұрын

Also, I'm an English professor, and I just died at the reference to Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery" at the end. "Lottery in June, corn be heavy soon."

Watching from Scotland UK, i I listen to Up and Adam for obviously VPR goss, but you guys rock🎉🎉🎉❤ scoots podcast master

Hey your my favorite DA😉love listening & always sounds great to me!

The “break” they took from hooking up was actually like 2-3 weeks based on when they went to Life is Beautiful. Just another thing that makes me think it’s been going on way longer than anyone has admitted to so far.

Love your guys perspective ❤️

James can't hide his emotions, and he also likes the attention. I think how he acted was a combination of being upset and the validation from getting laughs from saying things like he wants a spanked bottom and time out.

Hahahaha, thanks for having my back Boot Scoot McGee - Steel, next time I'll clarify my RESPONSES between statements and questions. #lessonlearned😆

Yayy Steele liked my nickname Scoo-gazy 😂 thanks guys

Im willing to bet Scheana sat on the Tom's side because it is the side she prefers the camera to capture her on. There was another reunion where she was filmed from the other side and she mentioned several times that she wasnt happy

@jamielee8054

Жыл бұрын

You’re probably right lol

"Let him to the dirty work"..💯 please 🙏 😊

Ariana was the one to point out James had every right to his own hurt in this situation and shut down the “wasn’t about him” narrative.

I just love this podcast so much. I wish I had guy friends that were just as invested in this as much as y’all

Guys it’s been going on sense Coachella.. or longer because he said they were gettin close in January last year.

Southern charm

@bond8870

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Their perspectives would be incredible!!

@michelleheiser3959

Жыл бұрын

@@bond8870 yesss lol especially about TRav haha

@bond8870

Жыл бұрын

@@michelleheiser3959 ohh yes that would be incredible, I had almost forgotten about him, or at least tried too!!

@michelleheiser3959

Жыл бұрын

@@bond8870 haha same him and Ashley

@bond8870

Жыл бұрын

@@michelleheiser3959 yes!! And let’s not get started on when Whitney was a full time cast member, he is sooo creepy!! Icky vibes

Lala wasn't just screaming at Tom. It was her anger and pain o that was really for Randall

No interest in watching Luanne and Sonia at Crappie Lake

I think if Tom owned his behavior and didn’t try to deflect, LaLa and James would lose their steam. Those two are being fed by his inability to take accountability.

@kweenz600

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this but Tom is not accountable to Lala and she’s very much acting like he is. He’s accountable to Ariana (obviously) and to Scheana, Tom2, and James because they were close friends, but not Lala. If Lala were behaving more like Katie, I’d be more interested in her pov. Katie is disgusted by this but recognizes she’s on the outside of it, so she doesn’t attack like Lala does.

@YasmineB2468

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Tom thinks taking accountability is saying “I’m taking accountability” when it takes more than that.

@deaniepopplewell9446

Жыл бұрын

It really doesn’t matter what he says. The mob will still attack him… and Raquel. It’s ridiculous.

The reason the women were so upset with Lisa is because she was defending Sandavol all night long. She deserved it.

@kweenz600

Жыл бұрын

I think Lala was a bit over the top though. She didn’t need to completely dismiss her when all LVP was saying was don’t call him dangerous. That’s a valid critique of what Lala was saying.

@vuyomji9298

Жыл бұрын

But he is dangerous, maybe differently from Randell, but nonetheless still dangerous. It may have been over the top, it doesn't mean that Lala was incorrect.

@kweenz600

Жыл бұрын

@@vuyomji9298 yeah but if Lala were less focused on dunking and more on the topic at hand, she could’ve explained that. Him being emotionally dangerous and sexually inappropriate/indiscriminate makes sense but Lala would rather have the last word than coherently express herself. Plus she’s doing a lot of projecting of Randall onto Tom and has no interest in confronting or examining that.

@vuyomji9298

Жыл бұрын

@@kweenz600 Ok...lets go. Firstly what is the topic at hand for Lala. Cause I think allot of people have been interpreting that incorrectly. Allot people think it's firstly money, then the friend. That could be true, but I think the is a third thing(not Randell) that's got her hyped. It's either you know what it is or you don't....fine either way. Secondly, emotionally dangerous only? I gotta tell you, I know allot of tragic stories, that started with cheating. Sooo emotionally and physically dangerous....

@kweenz600

Жыл бұрын

@@vuyomji9298 the topic at hand is Tom’s affair and Lala keeps making it about her. My point is not “no one can call Tom dangerous.” As I stated, the point is (1) it’s valid for LVP to question/pushback on the word ‘dangerous’ and (2) if Lala was even kind of a rational adult she could say, “he is dangerous and here’s why - XYZ” and actually prove her point. Her current tactic of talking louder than everyone else and telling people they’re dismissed or irrelevant makes her look immature and kind of like a bully.

52:46 Dang, Sandoval get wrecked! 😂

I think Lala is super emotional about it all because she was *just* going through a really tumultuous custody battle with the man that cheated on her

Worst wedding ever on Bravo!

@jamielee8054

Жыл бұрын

It was terrible! Even Tamra said the same thing I did. They mentioned Joe a million times in the 1st 10 minutes 🙄

@kristelcorrea769

Жыл бұрын

@@jamielee8054 100% agreed.

@KA-eu9sy

Жыл бұрын

Risque dancers were so inappropriate.

I love my bravo bros!!! Philly in da house!! ✌🏽

Sound works!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉

I think James didn’t need Kristen to get on the show. His parents have known Lisa for years and I bet he got on that way. Kristen was 32 and James was 21. Let’s not forget that power dynamic.

Love my Bros!❤

LVP has treated the Tom’s like small children! She won’t let them go up!

Lisa is protecting Sandoval because she doesn’t what to be in business with some that people think is a horrible person.

The VPR reunion shocking surprise appears from the part 2 promo ads airing right now on Bravo to be Andy giving Scheana the letter stating the retraining order has been dropped.

Think about Family Karma, I do like that one

That guy vapes more than Lala swears

I googled Life is Beautiful 2022. It was in September

love top chef:)

💯agree with u guys. I found it quite disgusting how sandifool thanked The group for supporting Ariana… as if he is still her man. Dude! Don’t align urself with her. U r done and u don’t need to thank them obo of her

y’all should go through ATL!

I will say I think Crappy Lake will be dumb, and I’m dumb for watching. That has never stopped me from watching other shows. But who knows, it may be funny

Woulda,coulda,scuta

Sound is much better!!!!....IMO: Rachel's issues probably go all the way back to infancy. Remember that her birth mom "gave her away", even though it was to her aunt, which is problematic (attachment theory) & can lead them to becoming adults who are inappropriate in responses/interactions which, in turn, looks strange to others (us). When some people are not nurtured/form bonds early-on, they become adults who are lacking in emotions & may only find satisfaction in sex or harmful behaviors, to try to fill the void. I also wonder about the birth father. Who is he? Does Rachel even know/have a relationship with him? Lots of trauma here but still no excuse for the harm Ariana has had to endure. There couldn't be 2 more toxic people to meet/hook up than Rachel & Scandoval, with all his issues too. Yikes!!!!

After Scandoval i went back and rewatched ALL of VPR… Last seasons reunion when James and Rachel announced their separation, Sandoval reaction was hella suspicious. At this point we’ve seen him lie so many times it’s easy to tell when hes lying… It’s like stage acting the way he goes “hUh?!?! nO wAy!! 😱😱😱” I think Rachel and him had been hooking up then. I think they decided to leave their partners, Rachel did, Tom didn’t. That’s where the lie about “taking a break after the first time” comes from because Rachel was pissed. I think that’s part of the reason Rachel started trying to go for Schwartz, to make him jealous, and then they took the affair back up that night charlotte died

James got reprimanded by Andy for his foul language that's why James said poopoo head

Lala is grown and has been through a lot of trauma over a cheating scandal therefore I thought it was very insensitive of Lisa to try to silence her. how disrespectful that was and I’m proud of lala for being the woman she is and standing her ground. She is entitled to her point of view it was her turn to talk.

@coloradocrystal2510

Жыл бұрын

She didn't try to silence her. She disagreed with her choice of words. And lala, as usual went off on anyone that has a different opinion than her because no one can be right except Lala. No one can talk except Lala. No one can be the center of attention except Lala.

@coloradocrystal2510

Жыл бұрын

Calling LVP disrespectful is rich considering how Lala treats and has treated literally everyone on thst stage.

Bros - if you're gonna do a podcast on VPR then at least do some research before filming! I implore y'all to listen to Ryan Bailey's or the cast's podcasts (Lala, Scheana, Kristen, Jax...pick one!) bc they provide a loooot of context on stuff you have opinions on, even if you only listen to the most recent ones. Having this knowledge will help embolden your theories, and make you look more credible. Ex. Jax and Brit were only given the 3 eps from Peacock as a trial to see how much interest viewers had. As it was extremely successful since Peacock actually saw their views, CTR, and revenue go up, they're now involved in another project that is separate from VPR. They may be "Friends Of" next season a la Housewives but nothing more. This context was given to us in Jax and Brit's podcast last week, and further elaborated on in Ryan Bailey's podcast where he talks to Ariana's BFF Janet Elizabeth.

I’m a huge top chef fan.

I think they don’t want to give Scando a chance to try to squirm out of it. We are in an era where we are less likely to let people spew nonsense. His pathetic showing on Howie was what they knew he was going to try and do.

For other shows to cover- Shahs was a really good show and had a big fan base. Below Deck would be good. Maybe just do OG version with Cpt. Lee. Married to Med is a great show too.

No you are wrong it’s still entertaining to watch James go at Tom

James & LaLa we’re a bit over the top. But James was truly hurt and this reunion triggered him. Last year’s reunion was when James & Raquel announced the end of their engagement. James was doubly hurt by Tom being the one having the affair with Raquel!

Let me just tell you peacocks the best money I ever spent with add free shows.. not a spokesman for peacock but I'm telling you the commercials kill me. So for me watching reruns of housewives or whatever with no commercials is awesome.

Jax has another show coming out about tv show villains. He said it on juicy scoop

I appreciate Lala & James standing up for Ariana..but I think Lala is mainly doing it because she's jaded & damaged from Randall & hated Sandavol to begin with.

I agree that Lala and James need to stop yelling and let Sandoval speak because it’s like during a criminal case -you let the defendant keep talking and incriminate himself

Jax is doing an all villains show on another network

Jax and Brittany already have a podcast that gets barely any views/listens. They think people suddenly like them and miss them.

Sandivol….U don’t wanna mess up ur lovely manicure in a fight… sit the f down! AS IF!!!

It’s important to note he was horrible to Lala for seasons on end, disrespected her for having a child with Randall I don’t think it’s just about what he did to Ariana. Sandavol said so much nasty things about her in his interviews and when with Schwartz. He also disregarded his relationship with James and was nasty about Katie too a lot of his behaviour towards them was to deflect from his own disgusting behaviour. I also think Schwartz is just as nasty too but gets away with it.

Lala lashing out has nothing to do with caring about anyone else. She's angry and bitter and makes horrible descisions. (The Don, really?) Her attacks are only to make HER feel better and maybe slightly to get some attention. Maybe a lil bit. 😵‍💫

Bros: another perspective to explain la la’s behavior. Although I do believe she would have stood up for her friends had she not lived a similar experience, I think La la is is truly fighting Randall through Tom and most import athletes, she’s defending the la la from 2 years ago that didn’t have the tools, knowledge etc., to properly defend herself. I don’t think that she’s enjoying this.

55:54 Mark I was gonna Sub until you mentioned Texas calling us bumb fked. Bye!

Yall using a derogatory female word (p*ssy) to insult men as weak is a bummer. Be better.

I've seen more Bravo fans hate Teresa's wedding... so was it really "successful" despite ratings? Hopefully before any network gives her a spinoff or show, they pay close attention to what fans think.

@bituinkamatoy5762

Жыл бұрын

Im assuming the people were hate watching thats why the ratings were so high? 🤔

@jamielee8054

Жыл бұрын

@@bituinkamatoy5762 you’ve made an excellent point. I cannot stand Tre, but have to watch anyway. Lots of my friends/family have similar opinion. Unfortunately even if she gets a spin-off I know I’ll be watching

@KA-eu9sy

Жыл бұрын

Wedding was successful. For the 3 of them. Teresa, Louis, and Teresa's hair.

@kristelcorrea769

Жыл бұрын

@@bituinkamatoy5762 True. That could be true, too.

@ginao6810

Жыл бұрын

@@bituinkamatoy5762 networks don’t care. Hate watchers and love watchers generate the same amount of advertising revenue

I totally agree James and LaLa are only making themselves look bad. Everybody knows you’re upset but once you start yelling nobody can understand what you are saying. When ever a person is losing it even if they have a valid point nobody cares because you seem abusive. The subject than becomes you are a bully or abusive person. None of them have any self awareness at all. Also I think the big secret is LVP is done with the show or moving to Vegas.

LaLa should never have spoken to LVP that way. Uncalled for. A classless move on her part.

I totally agree about LaLa… she needs to turn the volume wayyyy down because she’s no angel herself and the scandoval really has nothing to do with her. Also, I didn’t like the way she spoke to Lisa… like, that lady is the reason you’re sitting there so whether or not you agree with her stance you speak to her with respect!

How quick you all forget about the people who were left alone during hard times…. Schwartz has had a lot of family situations going on too and he deeply loves his fam his business is all he has and even if he has to befriend scuzz bucket sandy to get this business running then so be it…. It does not mean he doesn’t have empathy or compassion for Ariana! His is pissed at Sandy as he should be and shames him in is own way! Lala makes it clear daily that she is all in for herself and her child and doing what she thinks is right despite knowing something she can choose to share or not because it doesn’t effect her well this stupid shit sandy does is directly affecting Schwartz so back the fuck off he knows he didn’t handle the situation well….but he has to do what is needed or lose everything he has left to his name! Frankly so many would do the same! Trust is broken in that friendship and it will end I truly believe in him and that it will happen

@marybethlangenkamp529

Жыл бұрын

Also I want to make it clear I love Lala she is a strong ass woman and I love Ariana Katie and Scheanna they are all strong woman…. Love and reapect

@lacysnake

Жыл бұрын

Yes. And I think they need to rewatch the reunion… Schwartz didn’t know in Mexico. They used him and he was screwed if he told screwed if he didn’t.

@justineking7

Жыл бұрын

@@lacysnake I think Schwartz knew before Mexico and the affair probably started way before that.

@lacysnake

Жыл бұрын

@@justineking7 I think the affair started long before anyone knows but I don’t think Schwartz knew about it till August…something Katie had said. I feel bad for Schwartz. Sandoval put him in this position during the hardest time of his life and he was screwed either way he went. Sandoval is a friend to know one but himself.

Maybe timestamp your videos if you’re going to talk so much about other shit🤷🏻‍♀️