Are Christians Science Deniers? Pastor VS Scientist (Jubliee Reaction)

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  • @tpark9626
    @tpark96262 жыл бұрын

    It’s interesting how they chose an atheist Jew and 3 atheist scientists. There are plenty of religious scientists in the world.

  • @crunch2

    @crunch2

    2 жыл бұрын

    They should of had 3 Christian scientists....and 3 atheists scientists

  • @dited358

    @dited358

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@crunch2 This, atheists absolutely fear legit scientists who also happen to be Christian.

  • @crunch2

    @crunch2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dited358 fr fr

  • @lobstered_blue-lobster

    @lobstered_blue-lobster

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Boris Cuduco probably just making a generalized assumption don't take him seriously. He's also probably a troll...but many Atheists especially new Atheists do live in an echo chamber tho, they only see what they want to see. (And I am speaking generally not all of course)

  • @pizzaandmeth4538

    @pizzaandmeth4538

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jubilee is very left leaning so not surprising.

  • @Elijah-Bravo
    @Elijah-Bravo2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine calling God’s work sloppy. I’d like to see them try and create a single atom out of nothing.

  • @swipe7249

    @swipe7249

    2 жыл бұрын

    We can't, but then again we're not omnipotent beings, he is. So we should really expect his work to be impeccable, instead we can see obvious problems with our spines, knees, wisdom teeth, feet, eyes. And that's just humans.

  • @kfc4056

    @kfc4056

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@swipe7249 the fall

  • @swipe7249

    @swipe7249

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kfc4056 The fall changed human biology?

  • @kfc4056

    @kfc4056

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@swipe7249 who am I to answer that?

  • @swipe7249

    @swipe7249

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kfc4056 I don’t know, you’re the one who claimed the fall was responsible.

  • @ktbdw2403
    @ktbdw24032 жыл бұрын

    So a Jewish individual that does not believe in a Creator?? And she was selected as a representative for this experiment? Poorly done.

  • @captainfordo1

    @captainfordo1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately there are far too many Jews who just use that identity as sort of a victim card and are completely disconnected from the God of the Old Testament. And the fact that she calls herself a Rabbi just makes it worse

  • @GavinLockard

    @GavinLockard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most Jews today openly don't believe the Torah anymore. Sad but true.

  • @marcellofunhouse1234

    @marcellofunhouse1234

    Жыл бұрын

    @@captainfordo1 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

  • @PaladinThizz

    @PaladinThizz

    Жыл бұрын

    Since when did Jews allow women to be teschers

  • @KiRetteCouture
    @KiRetteCouture2 жыл бұрын

    Science is Divine poetry. It is God's way of revealing Himself while giving us a chance to participate in the process.

  • @Skibble838

    @Skibble838

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that is a great way to put it

  • @KiRetteCouture

    @KiRetteCouture

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Skibble838 full credit to the Holy Spirit. I just wrote it down.

  • @Maksie0

    @Maksie0

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a pretty unscientific definition of science.

  • @KiRetteCouture

    @KiRetteCouture

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Maksie0 Lol. One way of putting it. God is bigger than science. You really don't expect it to be limited to human abilities and discoveries.

  • @Maksie0

    @Maksie0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KiRetteCouture What does "bigger than science" mean exactly? Does he not manifest in reality in any way that can be studied scientifically?

  • @Skwiddd90
    @Skwiddd902 жыл бұрын

    Lol when she said she doesn't believe in a supernatural god I almost bursted out laughing. Sorry not trying to be disrespectful but in what way is she a religious Jew?

  • @Henry-yg1yc

    @Henry-yg1yc

    2 жыл бұрын

    nonetheless a rabbi???

  • @diollinebranderson6553

    @diollinebranderson6553

    2 жыл бұрын

    yea I was sooo confused. the satan is truly a master of deception

  • @backlash7232

    @backlash7232

    2 жыл бұрын

    The rabbi is a evil Zionist!

  • @kayvoncrenshaw1799

    @kayvoncrenshaw1799

    2 жыл бұрын

    Reformed Orthodox Jews are like that.

  • @enoch3874

    @enoch3874

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder..being a secular jew, how she feels about the fact that all of her culture and everything she knows about being Jewish is all contingent upon the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It breaks my heart that she denies the elohim of elohim.

  • @isaiahmumaw
    @isaiahmumaw2 жыл бұрын

    I have a physics professor who really embodies Christianity and science working together. He’s been heavily involved in multiple papers which have shaped his field, yet manages to mention God in almost every lecture, being very clear about the fact that there are unanswerable questions in science that must be answered by God.

  • @PaladinThizz

    @PaladinThizz

    Жыл бұрын

    He doesn't have the Holy Spirit. Not everyone who calls Jesus Lord is a Christian. He should turn away from worldly things and cling fully to God

  • @swagmonee5699

    @swagmonee5699

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PaladinThizz who are you to say that they don't have the Holy Spirit? You don't know their life or their dedication to God, and basing that off the idea that they teach physics makes no sense, and if that's not the reason then that makes even less sense. I would actually argue that someone who professes Jesus as Lord in the middle of lecture is full of the Spirit, so full that it overflows into those listening.

  • @zsaklong4619
    @zsaklong46192 жыл бұрын

    Science can answer moral questions? No one moves. Wow. Powerful.

  • @captainrex2298

    @captainrex2298

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lets say a man rapes a woman. Is it right or wrong for a man to rape.

  • @zsaklong4619

    @zsaklong4619

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@captainrex2298 wrong x

  • @captainrex2298

    @captainrex2298

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zsaklong4619wrong, but why, where does science say its wrong?

  • @zsaklong4619

    @zsaklong4619

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@captainrex2298 indeed. Is wrong cos it's against Gods law. Science doesnt care

  • @captainrex2298

    @captainrex2298

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zsaklong4619 yoo sorry man. I thought you hated God's word.

  • @Reeseballin8
    @Reeseballin83 жыл бұрын

    The pastors wife told him to stay where he was if there is a question that he would be the only one to walk up?? 😬 you have to stand on truth no matter how unpopular it is.

  • @bensexton7350

    @bensexton7350

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thankfully he didn't listen to his foolish wife

  • @kfc4056

    @kfc4056

    2 жыл бұрын

    No she meant if he was the only one to walk up stay where he is

  • @diollinebranderson6553

    @diollinebranderson6553

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bensexton7350 she told it as joke I believe

  • @Msizyke41

    @Msizyke41

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think she meant stand firm when you are the only one there

  • @bailybridges2226

    @bailybridges2226

    Жыл бұрын

    Stay where you are in your belief,, he would have already walked up if he says no one walked up with him, you don’t stay where you were you stay where you are lol

  • @simpublic89
    @simpublic89 Жыл бұрын

    I love how at the question about life after death the Christian pastor is just stepping forward with a huge smile on his face awwwww

  • @nocx4592
    @nocx45922 жыл бұрын

    Notice how on the "there are things my belief cannot explain" question, the pastor was there because there are things his belief can't explain, but neither can anyone else'e beliefs. They just deny that the thing happened.

  • @lilchristuten7568

    @lilchristuten7568

    2 жыл бұрын

    He was actually there because he, in his limited thinking and ability, can't explain certain things, most specifically he can't explain the supernatural, but his belief can explain it, his belief's explanation is the supernatural.

  • @pippaschroeder9660

    @pippaschroeder9660

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah there are so many unexplainable things in this world. The Bible even says that no man can fully understand the works of God.

  • @PaladinThizz

    @PaladinThizz

    Жыл бұрын

    The Holy Spirit can explain all things. And I would've stood there. Because if you truly believe in God then God can explain anything to you and for you, if that is His will

  • @brooketurton3797
    @brooketurton37972 жыл бұрын

    Sloppy work of God? Yo, does this man live on Earth? Everything has been intricately designed perfectly. Humans and all. How our environment is perfect to live in. If he means the adaption of the world, that's clearly man's fault. We live in a broken world. That's biblical.

  • @DestinyG.G

    @DestinyG.G

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ino right, I was like, 1 have you ever been to a forest, a beach, looked at the sky. And 2 careful with such careless words, God hears. Even if I didn't believe, I wouldn't dare make such strong statements like that, I mean you never know.

  • @Maksie0

    @Maksie0

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perfect to live in? Before the technology we developed these past few centuries, life on this planet was filled with death and disease. Most species that have ever existed are extinct. Water, which we need to live, can kill us if it gets in our lungs, which it can easily do because it's the same hole. Also, most of that water on this planet is undrinkable. Is the world beautiful? Awe-inspiring? Complex? Of course it's all of those. But where the hell is there any design?

  • @brooketurton3797

    @brooketurton3797

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Artelian Perfect in many ways as we are able to inhabit this earth. Broken world? Yes also. When studying the universe, even atheistic scholars can give a nod towards those who believe in a greater force thats outside of space, time and matter. When General Relativity was basically proven, it wasn't the happiest of matters, as the scientists who wanted to believe that the world was eternal (to disprove a creator) were wrong. It had a beginning. So to go further, how does something come from nothing? Not just emptiness, but complete nothingness. Space, time and matter all came to be at one point (The Big Bang). Something outside of such things had to be. Something greater and eternal. Following that, the age of the world is not yet determined (and possibly never will be). Evolution has many flaws and isn't a perfect theory. I'm not here to bash the study, I myself believed in it most of my life, but the moment I took my views on it further I realised how ridiculous it is. Even Darwin admits the faults in his theory. Evolution doesn't answer why we have morals. Why we objectively know what's right and what's wrong. It isn't something that evolved. If that is your belief than it would fall to morality being subjective (as it isn't an objective state but growing) and there are many things wrong with that view point. No serious scholar would argue that theory. All of this is just to express how there are many things to think about outside of what the secular world indoctrinates into us.

  • @Maksie0

    @Maksie0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brooketurton3797 Morality isn't some objective set in stone thing. Why do you think moral philosophy exists? And you say you looked into evolution and "realized how ridiculous it is", does that mean you believe the overwhelming majority of biologists in the world just haven't looked into it as much as you have? Or is it some grand conspiracy?

  • @brooketurton3797

    @brooketurton3797

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Maksie0 You believe in subjective morality? If so, how do you apply that to your life? Do you live such a way? Not every person nor scientist believes in the theory of evolution. There are many other possibilities. Evolution isn't the pillar our beliefs sit on. It doesn't bother me if people believe in it or not, but those who are in favour of the theory tend to be triggered if others don't follow. Overall, I honestly don't care whether it's true or not. Even if proven, it doesn't change my faith in anyway. What I believe still stands.

  • @letstalkbiblewithshun.s
    @letstalkbiblewithshun.s2 жыл бұрын

    Men love darkness and do not want to come to the light cos their deeds are wicked

  • @RayBooM_

    @RayBooM_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TalentMthiyane its true tho. We are wicked but we don't want anyone to judge us

  • @johnbochicchio6210

    @johnbochicchio6210

    2 жыл бұрын

    Conviction could be really hard ... But its so worth it to know the love of God ❤

  • @WeakestYogurtEnjoyer
    @WeakestYogurtEnjoyer2 жыл бұрын

    The biologist calls God's creation of the universe sloppy but then five minutes later he tells us science can't explain morality. I would've asked him by what standard do you judge God's creation of the universe to be "sloppy".

  • @chigasaki06

    @chigasaki06

    2 жыл бұрын

    Evidently, he's more intelligent than God.

  • @laserfan17

    @laserfan17

    2 жыл бұрын

    An omnipotent, perfect and all good god would definitely make a universe where humans don’t die almost instantaneously in 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of it. An all powerful, all good god would not create humans so poorly as to have them immediately disobey him without understanding the consequences just because a talking snake told them to (man, what a crappy creation are Adam and Eve in the Bible). Also, let’s not forget about other cool designs of god, like: Deathly fungi that turn insects into zombies, brain eating amoeba, viruses that cause caterpillars to dissolve, deathly viruses to humans like Smallpox (before vaccines) or many respiratory viruses, deathly bacteria that dodge antibiotics, parasitoid wasps that insert their eggs into live spiders, prions that dissolve our brains, etc. Oh, and before you blame the “fall”, weird how this “fall” has all the creative power to magically produce these organisms, I mean, it sure means the fall was a god of its own that could make dangerous killing organisms, either that or they evolved which makes far more sense 🤷🏻‍♂️ Then, Maybe Satan made them? Didn’t know Satan was a god like yours. Also, you think the fall did this, and the fall was caused by mankind, but the rules were set up by god, so it doesn’t matter, the blame for all of this according to the Bible’s own words is still on Yahweh, right?

  • @Maksie0

    @Maksie0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theincrediblehulk5797 So this god allows suffering on a gargantuan scale to happen because, what, he wants people to like him, but not because he made them like him? Do you not think that's an extremely selfish and cruel thing to do maybe?

  • @jacobmerrill7382

    @jacobmerrill7382

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Maksie0 What are you to say to the potter what he does with one lump of clay and what he does with another? Given the assumption a God exists, we should be grateful He even chose to create us to begin with. Rather than question His creation in the sense of being defiant, we should instead seek the depths of His creation in reverence and respect. Can you create atoms by will from nothing? Can you live and exist outside of time? There's only one being who would be able to do that. That's God, my friend. Until you realize the grand scale of His creation and just how powerless you are to affect it without His authority will you ever begin to appreciate it. I say this out of love and not to berate or bash you. Peace be with you, friend.

  • @Maksie0

    @Maksie0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobmerrill7382 Might does not make right.

  • @sleekviper4045
    @sleekviper40452 жыл бұрын

    This guy Don was a professor I had at University. He spent most of his time bashing religion and republicans. He was knowledgeable within his field of study; however, he was not changing any minds on social issues due to his callous and condescending attitude.

  • @levernis5753

    @levernis5753

    2 жыл бұрын

    THX FOR EXPOSING HIM

  • @jean-baptistedupont5967

    @jean-baptistedupont5967

    2 жыл бұрын

    He seems rather petty with his sneering about the world being a "sloppy" creation.

  • @romanovnagenesis1944

    @romanovnagenesis1944

    2 жыл бұрын

    Evidence?

  • @TheCuriousConservative
    @TheCuriousConservative2 жыл бұрын

    I point anyone who has questions about science and God to astrophysicist Hugh Ross. I also recommend C.S. Lewis for logic and Christianity... Also, just look up all the Nobel Prize winners that see no conflict between God and Science.

  • @narnia1233

    @narnia1233

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s also harrowing to read famous people’s last words. So many are quite terrifyingly sad. And at the same time, Christian’s last words are so full of peace and joy, it’s crazy the difference. Famous atheists last words: Caesar Borgia: “While I lived, I provided for everything but death; now I must die, and am unprepared to die.” Thomas Hobbs: “I say again, if I had the whole world at my disposal, I would give it to live one day. I am about to take a leap into the dark.” Sir Thomas Scott: “Until this moment I thought there was neither a God nor a hell. Now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgement of the Almighty.” Anton Levey: “Oh my, oh my, what have I done, there is something very wrong.” Etc. Famous Christians last words: D. L. Moody: “If God be your partner, make your plans large.” Saint Thomas Moore: “I die the King’s good servant but God’s first.” Catherine Booth: “The waters are rising, but so am I. I am not going under but over. Do not be concerned about dying; go on living well, the dying will be right.” John Newton (who wrote Amazing Grace): “I am still in the land of the dying; I shall be in the land of the living soon.”

  • @narnia1233

    @narnia1233

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Boris Cuduco I recommend reading Dr. Hugh Ross (Astrophysicist) if you’re interested in scientific reasons to believe in Christianity. Mike Winger is also pretty good at going through the Bible in detail. I personally also find it interesting the study of ancient Chinese language and how their original belief is very very similar to the God of the Bible. Read “God’s Promise to the Chinese” by Ethel Nelson or “Faith of our Fathers” by Dr. Chan Kei Thong.

  • @lizzard13666
    @lizzard13666 Жыл бұрын

    I love your videos man. "We idolise apathy" is one of the most accurate things I've ever heard!

  • @athelstan...8754
    @athelstan...87542 жыл бұрын

    Amy: ...i don't believe in a supernatural God Me: 🤔🤔 but you are a rabbi

  • @YAHWEH-SAVES777

    @YAHWEH-SAVES777

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just tells you how much brainwashing is in this world

  • @marcellofunhouse1234

    @marcellofunhouse1234

    Жыл бұрын

    the jews back then and now don't even believe Jesus Christ is the messiah i'm not surprised

  • @UMCStudios1
    @UMCStudios12 жыл бұрын

    Never thought Christian content would be so interesting, glad I found you

  • @sambun6394

    @sambun6394

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gerald it’s absolutely amazing once u finally find Him. The Bible is filled with the most amazing moments in time that you learn who God is, He has humor, love, justice, freedom, He’s our father in Heaven and He ignited the world and pressed play because He saw YOU❤️‍🔥 Yes He gives me meaning everyday and it’s amazing because in the book He speaks of false preaching etc and that’s why many of us understand why people have such a stereotypical view of Christianity, and as Christians, we can see the false teachers and all I can do is tell my friends the Truth not the lies on those give money get money religious movements. It’s a great book, my eyes r open to the world in an amazing way. The hardest part is learning to Love absolutely everyone…..and even I have a very fragile heart, like so fragile that i cry like 5 times a day and im 20yrs old! lol and it started ever since I was little and I accepted Jesus. I just think that if someone like me, who loves others and yet I have still stolen, lied, cheated, hurt others. There are 8 billion of us RIGHT NOW and that’s not counting the 100 billion that have existed, I can see where the sin adds up and the world is where it is. By God’s Grace He Loves Us❤️

  • @UMCStudios1

    @UMCStudios1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sambun6394 thank you for this message, I know and believe all of this, I just feel like all these Christian KZreadrs seem tainted in so much worldly stuff and it makes it cringy for me as a watcher, I love to see this guy who is giving it to me raw ya know 😀

  • @sambun6394

    @sambun6394

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@UMCStudios1 same here❤️ We just have to look through the filter in life and see the truth coming from people’s hearts.

  • @georgiawilksch5708
    @georgiawilksch57082 жыл бұрын

    A few weeks back a friend who teaches at a Christian primary (elementary) school had been teaching about evolution (state curriculum) and several of the kids became all “science is dumb and wrong” and I was kind of alarmed by that. Science is an amazing tool to explore the world God gave us. So I sent over a few links to a couple scientists who are christians for some solid perspective

  • @crunch2

    @crunch2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sadly science has changed from "studying God's creation" to "debunk religions"

  • @diollinebranderson6553

    @diollinebranderson6553

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@crunch2 so true. another one of satans tools to turn people from God

  • @crunch2

    @crunch2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Boris Cuduco yall science is sadly used at this point by many people to "debunk" religion

  • @rydrakeesperanza5370

    @rydrakeesperanza5370

    2 жыл бұрын

    If they grow older they learn more about science. If not now I hope they'll appreciate it in the future. At least the progression it brought (technology, medicine and all). Wait, you learn evolution in elementary school? We learned it in year 12 (grammar school), not even 10....

  • @georgiawilksch5708

    @georgiawilksch5708

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rydrakeesperanza5370 I don’t remember learning it in primary school, but I guess they do now. It’s probably very basic. However, I just hated the idea of any of them them learning to distrust or hate the sciences, or grow up to distrust God because of science. It’s a little more about the principle and response then anything.

  • @LetTheTruthBeTold8324
    @LetTheTruthBeTold83242 жыл бұрын

    Science is the discovery of God’s majestic creation and order.

  • @demetter7936

    @demetter7936

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah no.

  • @LetTheTruthBeTold8324

    @LetTheTruthBeTold8324

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@demetter7936 how awesome God is, is partly revealed in creation. one of the most powerful, obviously created languages is math. God is so awesome.

  • @demetter7936

    @demetter7936

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LetTheTruthBeTold8324 I don't believe god created anything or is even real. All the religious books contradict and make no sense when you look at them from a modern view, unless you try and do some insane mental gymnastics to prove them. I mean even for a start, please tell me why i should even believe your god is real, over the thousands of other gods that exist with the exact same evidence to support them (which is no evidence and a few old books)

  • @LetTheTruthBeTold8324

    @LetTheTruthBeTold8324

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@demetter7936 Because He is real and he will reveal Himself to you. I wasn't raised religious bro, and someone told me the same thing I'm telling you. if you truly want to know Him he will make himself known to you. if you're just playing games He knows that too.

  • @demetter7936

    @demetter7936

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LetTheTruthBeTold8324 I knew this would be your answer, because you have nothing to prove he is real. Simply saying "trust me bro he is real" isn't good enough evidence to make me convert. He's never revealed himself to me and evidently he has neither revealed himself to millions upon millions of people. Religion is dying and it's a good thing. Again i'm gonna ask, why should i believe your god is real over the thousands of other gods?

  • @justabunneh6490
    @justabunneh64902 жыл бұрын

    I spent some time in a super liberal synagouge, the second I saw a female "rabbi" I knew she'd be the kind I met who didn't even believe in God.

  • @shoespeak
    @shoespeak2 жыл бұрын

    this was a great video. God is a God of logic too and thats pretty clear after watching these people

  • @Mousicaddict
    @Mousicaddict2 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video - my favorite of yours so far. Grateful for what you do!

  • @bonniesookermany465
    @bonniesookermany4653 жыл бұрын

    That was very interesting! Thanks for sharing.

  • @backlash7232
    @backlash72322 жыл бұрын

    I cracked up at your explanation how they would explain the burning bush 😂👏🏼

  • @peacewithyou6341
    @peacewithyou63412 жыл бұрын

    For the old scientist: If all the moral is implanted in us and we don't need a deity or anyone to tell us - why do I go to church? Why do I seek to improve and let the pastor teach me? And what about all the people in jail, what went wrong with their moral? Don't they need correction? Why do we teach our children about right and wrong?

  • @finnjake8230

    @finnjake8230

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is also my question if there's no God who made the standard of morality then why so many sinners begin to accept Jesus? Why many people who were once an addict before got their lives changed when they accept the gospel? Why still so many people unto this day still want to change? I know that it's a chemical reaction from the body, but I think there is more than that deeply enough that even the Modern psychology can't answer. It's just my thoughts so please don't take this personally 😅

  • @peacewithyou6341

    @peacewithyou6341

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the bodily reactions with chemicals in the brain are mainly a physical expression from what's going on in the soul. Sometimes the mind can conquer the body.

  • @peacewithyou6341

    @peacewithyou6341

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let's do a test and answer me this question: Why are these things wrong: Theft, murder, rape, molestation etc.? Also: Don't you think you have a soul?

  • @vickyandersen8660

    @vickyandersen8660

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I knew there wasn’t a God, I would have probably killed people and lying etc…

  • @theeternalempire7235

    @theeternalempire7235

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Artelian This argument in the comment above me is clearly poorly constructed. It is dubious and obviously so

  • @jesselobsinger3325
    @jesselobsinger33252 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been binging your videos all morning I love them

  • @impactbytruth9845
    @impactbytruth98452 жыл бұрын

    Brother your my new favorite Christian KZread creator. God bless you my brother

  • @nocx4592
    @nocx45922 жыл бұрын

    11:42 wait so he basically just says: there are things that we can't explain, but since it's SCIENCE, it's not because my belief can't explain it. But his interpretation of science is his belief.

  • @demetter7936

    @demetter7936

    2 жыл бұрын

    Science isn't a belief, its fact.

  • @theeternalempire7235

    @theeternalempire7235

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Boris Cuduco get out of here

  • @gemfields1050
    @gemfields10502 жыл бұрын

    Your scientist accent at 11:05 reminds me of Jerry Seinfeld LOL but this was a very insightful video and I look forward to see more. Much love bro, and God bless!

  • @dr_dave512
    @dr_dave5122 жыл бұрын

    God and science are in no conflict. God and man? Well thats a nother story.

  • @Gerardo-dt8xf

    @Gerardo-dt8xf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said 👍

  • @swipe7249

    @swipe7249

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends on what you mean by god I suppose, but the pretty much entire genesis is in conflict with science.

  • @dr_dave512

    @dr_dave512

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@swipe7249 oh! shut up! The Bible is God's love leter to us! Not a science book! And keep in mind there is poetry, there are epics and love poems. Not all Bible is literal. All christians kown this. And when I mean GOD with capital "G" what I mean is that He is the author of science itself. There is no conflict! The only conflict we see is between us and HIM.

  • @dr_dave512

    @dr_dave512

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@swipe7249 you will be supriesd how little science actully does in the human expirience. And how vast and full o woanders a life with God can be.

  • @swipe7249

    @swipe7249

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dr_dave512 That’s fine. But I’m not aware of any science authored by God. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it wasn’t for science. We’d both probably be dead. Does quite a lot in the human experience in my view.

  • @amalgamated333
    @amalgamated3332 жыл бұрын

    What is also pretty hilarious and ironic is that usually a scientist will be the first to say “correlation doesn’t equal causation” but correlated evidence explaining the causation of the universe is the whole basis of evolution.

  • @angelpaez6135
    @angelpaez61352 жыл бұрын

    Much respect to you my brother. I've seen a few of there reactions to this channel Jubliee and no one has called out the false of some of these people. Other videos I've seen have false representations and no one has said anything.

  • @KeysoftheLord
    @KeysoftheLord2 жыл бұрын

    11:05 Oh, thank God! I needed that laugh. Seriously though thats hilarious!🤣😂

  • @jasminegold6890
    @jasminegold6890 Жыл бұрын

    Loved it! Keep it up

  • @flee.The.Cities
    @flee.The.Cities2 жыл бұрын

    ...I am from the West Indies often time we verbally speak in patios and call witchcraft science, a few months ago while listening to Chuck Missler he said, "Science is the cousin to sorcery (witchcraft)" this was an 👁️👁️ opener.

  • @diollinebranderson6553
    @diollinebranderson65532 жыл бұрын

    11:04 I burst out laughing with the music and all that😂😂

  • @js1423
    @js14233 жыл бұрын

    Are religion and science at odds? People like Francis Collins and Theodosius Dobzhansky would beg to differ.

  • @js1423

    @js1423

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Boris Cuduco Well, Christians, Jews and Muslims who believe in a YEC of course have trouble with mainstream science, as do Hindus who believe in a trillion-year old earth.

  • @thelonelybarbarian
    @thelonelybarbarian Жыл бұрын

    You are full of pride, sir

  • @becca40552
    @becca405522 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate these videos reacting to Jubliee. The topics of them are always really interesting to me, but as a Christian I often feel like they are not painting Christians in a bad light or trying to get us to doubt our believes. Maybe that is not suppose to be the reaction they are trying to illicit, but that is how I feel. Hearing a fellow believer's take on them though really helps.

  • @MrEd1024
    @MrEd10242 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making these man.

  • @seppukuguru7706
    @seppukuguru77062 жыл бұрын

    "It was probably Spring time in the middle east" 😂😂😭😭

  • @cartoonsfortheking75
    @cartoonsfortheking75 Жыл бұрын

    Best KZread Channel Ever!!!

  • @bornagain1589
    @bornagain15892 жыл бұрын

    If morality is born within all of us. why are so many people today living beyond morals?

  • @Doc-Holliday1851

    @Doc-Holliday1851

    2 жыл бұрын

    free will. We can have an intrinsic sense of right or wrong but ignore it.

  • @booairmow
    @booairmow2 жыл бұрын

    You’re SO good.

  • @alexnjogu549
    @alexnjogu5492 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Sir

  • @J_head432
    @J_head432 Жыл бұрын

    As for the shoulder getting better, theres a thing called mind over matter, and also placebo effect. People can trick themselves into thinking theyre fixed.

  • @nolor8397
    @nolor83972 жыл бұрын

    I would rather someone admit they know nothing than to follow a religion simply because they were raised in it

  • @elliottberkley
    @elliottberkley2 жыл бұрын

    You can not answer the really important questions because you can not run an experiment to answer them. If its not hypothesis, experiment, conclusion, then it is philosophy not science. You would think when science is the foundation of your worldview, you would already know that.

  • @nikkip.Christ-is-King
    @nikkip.Christ-is-King2 жыл бұрын

    I'm not surprised that the worldly people didn't move when asked "Can you explain everything you believed?" If I could entirely understand my God I wouldn't worship Him because He wouldn't be worthy of worshiping but I can't so I humbly submit to Him.

  • @thatcecile
    @thatcecile2 жыл бұрын

    Tomorrow i will be in the middle of this debate and i hope that i can stand up for my beliefs and represent Christ 🗣 kinda stressed tho (I am 14)

  • @js1423
    @js14233 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you should get Sy Garte to guest appear in a video to discuss creation-evolution?

  • @js1423

    @js1423

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Boris Cuduco Isn't he a catholic, and maybe even worse, a liberal? Sy is as a protestant might have more in common with this guy than Kenneth.

  • @maplestreetpictures7454
    @maplestreetpictures74542 жыл бұрын

    I the concept of love is not material. But love is material in the sense that it requires material actions.

  • @ElisabethElaineS
    @ElisabethElaineS2 жыл бұрын

    Ive noticed Jubilee doesn't ever have Christians capable of actually explaining the Christian view effectively

  • @markwhite116
    @markwhite1162 жыл бұрын

    The rabbi is a woman, meaning quite liberal.

  • @sovereigngodlisaloves9525
    @sovereigngodlisaloves95252 жыл бұрын

    "Yoooo, What happened to the Rabbi??!" 😅

  • @mahidereleanormengistu6132
    @mahidereleanormengistu61323 жыл бұрын

    Of topic does anyone else see the actor that acted like aquaman maybe it's his hair idk i just see it

  • @destinyboyd7711
    @destinyboyd7711 Жыл бұрын

    My science teacher (I'm in high school) is a Catholic woman AND an ex scientist

  • @rydrakeesperanza5370
    @rydrakeesperanza53702 жыл бұрын

    1:31 ok If I was there I didn't know what to answer. I mean, I'd go there as a scientist (hypothetically, I have to study first) but I'm also a Christian. So I'd have to go but I wouldn't really represent scientists in that regard...

  • @matthewmontano9695
    @matthewmontano96952 жыл бұрын

    Is the scientific method in Genisis?

  • @crownedcamellia
    @crownedcamellia2 жыл бұрын

    all scientists can do is study what God has already created

  • @jon_nyc4897
    @jon_nyc4897 Жыл бұрын

    Amen 🙏🏽

  • @Dru830
    @Dru8302 жыл бұрын

    True wisdom starts at a fear of the Lord

  • @enoch3874
    @enoch38742 жыл бұрын

    The scientist at 11:58 is would be incorrect here, as there are plenty of things within the field of science that not futher quantifiable, take for example the scientific method, the scientific method is based on the "principle of induction" that nature seems to be uniform enough and reliable enough to our form our entire scientific methodology on...you simply have take the assumption. Mathematics is another one from the same principle, a material/ non-material bridge . You can logically show me and prove the square root of 8 but can you empirically hold the number 64 in your hand ? Math is an abstract concept, so being an abstract concept, how then can math an immaterial thing be so foundational in our material/world? Without Jesus of Nazareth there in no logic..

  • @enoch3874

    @enoch3874

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Boris Cuduco simply by him being the only option , and being a singularity , there certain things that you would inevitably have to concide. Now, a better question would be to ask me to demonstrate that. One argument would be the lasting survival of the Jews though a few millennia in the midst of continued considerable, let's say, "attention" to put it nicely.. Another would be the inception of the nation-state of Israel in 1947 , if your unfamiliar with scripture it would be difficult to see how this is an argument, this would be fulfilled prophecy though. Another the Babylon exile of the Jews was prophesied as well hundreds of years before it happened, back in moses time ,read deuteronomy chapter 28 and then read on to 32 for more context Now let me address something else. people usually make the false dichotomy between God and science this is way were taught so i don't blame anybody for it. But the Bible speaks of Jesus as being outside of space and outside of time And logically speaking that's an important distinction to make and what other religious texts speak this way? The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not contingent upon culture All other nations/cultures when it comes to religion seem to do the opposite

  • @eliargumedo4728
    @eliargumedo47282 жыл бұрын

    One thing that science just confuses me about, is how can they tell how long something has been around for millions, or billions of years when you need a rotating earth around the sun to count or even predict the years.

  • @bikesrcool_1958

    @bikesrcool_1958

    Жыл бұрын

    They use radio carbon and isotope dating, both of which I don’t see how they could date the earth using that

  • @eliargumedo4728

    @eliargumedo4728

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bikesrcool_1958 i know they use some kind of degrading formula, similar thing they use on fossils, but it seems impossible because on two differe t points in space, time is different and if you take into consideration the speed of light, the past, future, and present all exist in space and so must be damn near impossible to establish a time the beginning of the universe occured

  • @bikesrcool_1958

    @bikesrcool_1958

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eliargumedo4728 they also base their assumptions that No god made the universe, which will taint every Piece of evidence afterwards to be atheistic. When God made the earth he made it fully matured. Trees already were grown, Adam was already an adult. The animals didn’t start off as baby’s and the stars appeared instantly mature.

  • @helloworld7944
    @helloworld79442 жыл бұрын

    The rabbi got me like 👁👄👁

  • @KevinSmith-gu7fb
    @KevinSmith-gu7fb2 жыл бұрын

    Could they have given them more uncomfortable chairs?

  • @jaquespiek8820
    @jaquespiek88202 жыл бұрын

    11:05 😂

  • @EveryTongue
    @EveryTongue2 жыл бұрын

    Yo what happened to the Rabbi 😂😂😂

  • @Mrs_Mama_MFT
    @Mrs_Mama_MFT2 жыл бұрын

    Read “Is Atheism Dead?” By Eric Metaxes. It gives an amazing defense of Creation and the Bible as a historical document. It all addresses some of the most common atheistic claims.

  • @lilchristuten7568
    @lilchristuten75682 жыл бұрын

    The pastor should not have sat down on the question "there are things that my belief cannot explain". He can't explain in a way that carnal people will understand but the explanation is always going to be in the supernatural realm. Why does everything exist, the explanation is God, why is there anything wrong in the world, the answer is sin, why is something the way that it is instead of another way, the answer is either because God designed it that way or because sin has corrupted it to be that way. These are explanations, many people are simply unwilling to accept them. "We don't know" isn't an explanation, it's a lack of an explanation, it's a reason why you lack an explanation, "we don't know but maybe someday we will know" also isn't an explanation but for some reason people are willing to accept that as an answer instead of "I don't know but God does" and "God's ways are higher than our ways and His thoughts are higher than our thoughts".

  • @Servant_of_Yeshua96
    @Servant_of_Yeshua962 жыл бұрын

    I read this article that proved the Bible, explained how science and physics proves that God is the supreme and ultimate creator, from the solar system to the age of the earth and why our view as humans is so different from God's account of how old the earth is. He made sense. God's perception of time is different, so for us it's 4.6 billion years old, but God who exists outside of normal time, created the earth to where it's 6000 to 10000 years old, because that's his time frame because He wrote the Bible. This article everyone should read. It's undeniable about how great God is. It was written by a Christian physicist. Blew my mind.

  • @Doc-Holliday1851

    @Doc-Holliday1851

    2 жыл бұрын

    what's the article?

  • @Servant_of_Yeshua96

    @Servant_of_Yeshua96

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Doc-Holliday1851 A Christian Physicist examines the age of earth by Steven Ball Ph.D. It's really cool.

  • @Steelers1180
    @Steelers11802 жыл бұрын

    Why is being a scientist and being a religious person, especially Christian, viewed as a binary choice. I am Catholic Conservative Scientist-Engineer American, and those identifying factors are not mutually exclusive.

  • @Maksie0

    @Maksie0

    2 жыл бұрын

    But being religious does mean holding positions that are lacking in scientific evidence. And it can potentially include beliefs that contradict science, like creationism.

  • @czar6203
    @czar62032 жыл бұрын

    2:36 so god created us with just simply a breath? 3:58 because of our own sin?! Then how could the sin of the rich industry affect the innocent poor?!

  • @crunch2

    @crunch2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes God created with only a breath... Nobody is innocent

  • @vickyandersen8660

    @vickyandersen8660

    2 жыл бұрын

    HIS breath which is life. Not just air… Everything is a chain here. What we do effects others and it also depends on the person. A person who kills needs someone to kill and they don’t care who it is. Cause and affect

  • @czar6203

    @czar6203

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vickyandersen8660 i think your 2nd argument don't fit with the 1st. If god created the universes, then what does created god.

  • @Akinlabi_Olanipekun
    @Akinlabi_Olanipekun2 жыл бұрын

    @Jubilee get this man on next to rep the Christians!!

  • @peacewithyou6341
    @peacewithyou63412 жыл бұрын

    All that scientists do is to discover God's order and his law to nature. Still they act as if they are the geniuses!

  • @xyrhyzmaelohan9987
    @xyrhyzmaelohan99872 жыл бұрын

    Love your arguments about their wrong beliefs. Plus, the comedy of this video is just funny.. "Wishy washy", "Explains science in an Owen Wilson voice" HAHA

  • @sisterrose6836
    @sisterrose68362 жыл бұрын

    Paraphrasing 1 Corinthians 11 - "If a man speaks about God in any way, and has something on his Head, he dishonors God." Women are to be Covered and Men are to be Uncovered.

  • @hayleybartek8643
    @hayleybartek86432 жыл бұрын

    "This universe was created." Doesn't say by God or intelligent design, doesn't say by mathematics and physics and random chance. Trick question that frankly everyone should have stepped forward for. Complaining about sickness and death. Yes, I get that it's a sad time with the plandemic going on. But I doubt that this man has ever wept for a tree that was cut down or for bacteria that could not thrive because someone defeated an infection. Both of those things, the tree and the bacteria, are also alive.

  • @yossephgetnet367
    @yossephgetnet3672 жыл бұрын

    If evolution was true( that doesnt include theistic evolution) then the species as a whole or individuals would do whatever benefits it to survive. We would have been wired to do everything we can to secure our survival, however people (not all) seek truth and that in the christian world often leads to trouble, pain and even death. Look at the apostles and early followers they all willingly gave up their lives for what they believed was true. Which would be against the idea that we would choose survival.

  • @swipe7249

    @swipe7249

    2 жыл бұрын

    From a purely biological standpoint, yes. But we also need to take psychology into account which makes things a little more complicated. In a way we can overcome our natural instincts and do things detrimental to our survival.

  • @yellomello6952

    @yellomello6952

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually, there is a scientific explanation to why we have curiosity. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter that sends messages between nerve cells. It is responsible for assigning and retaining awards. Many studies have shown that higher amounts of dopamine is released when the reward is unfamiliar. Basically, your brain is inclined to reward you with a rush of happiness when you learn something new. That is why people are curious. Curiosity did help people survive in the past. If humans didn't feel the need to learn anything new, civilisation wouldn't be where it is today. I'm a person of science but also enjoy exploring new ideas.

  • @yossephgetnet367

    @yossephgetnet367

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yellomello6952 but i wasnt talking about curiosity i get what u said but my point was survival is the one thing that we ought have sought to the end because we want to be alive we get dopamine as you have mentioned while qe are alive when people are offered life or death like polycarp did, they chose death(polycarp died by fire fyi). Why would a mere animal who has the urge to survive choose death instead of life? I dont belive that should be possible with just 1 big spontaneous generation that made humans that willingly choose death over life, and harsh deaths that is.

  • @noahhughes1433
    @noahhughes1433 Жыл бұрын

    my middle name is isaac 😮

  • @gabrielbennoach6142
    @gabrielbennoach61422 жыл бұрын

    Just a heads up. Reform Judaism is not Judaism. Actually, it is a religion that is based upon fighting Judaism. Anyone can literally call himself a "rabbi".

  • @The_Sunny_One

    @The_Sunny_One

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow that’s sounds terrible, I’m a Christian but I’d hate to see the Jewish religion torn down that way. It has such a rich history (not all good) especially in conjunction with Christianity

  • @chrystellight
    @chrystellight Жыл бұрын

    "I believe the universe was created" seemed like such a broad statement that I feel like everyone should've came forward?? I mean, "created" doesn't necessarily mean *someone* made us. If you have some common sense, you'd see that we're all here and the entire universe is here so there's definitely a point of "creation" for it all to exist xD

  • @fukukyun78
    @fukukyun782 жыл бұрын

    15:15 I don't understand why people insist pets don't go to Heaven lol Ecclesiastes 3:21 NLT "For who can prove that the human spirit goes up and the spirit of animals goes down into the earth?" This is the only verse as far as i know that talks about it. There's definitely no verse that says "pets don't go to Heaven" and there's no verse that says they do. But why not? Why insist that they don't when we literally have no clue lol, this verse seems to suggest they at very least have souls.

  • @VicCrisson
    @VicCrisson2 жыл бұрын

    Commenting for algorithm

  • @shoespeak
    @shoespeak2 жыл бұрын

    a reconstrictionist jew? whats the point

  • @middlemistandco5447
    @middlemistandco54472 жыл бұрын

    They should stop calling on ethnic jews to be a religious ambassador. It's like saying a Progressive Christian is the same as a normal Christian, it's not a separate show discussing the sects. You know?

  • @jabaridavid1256
    @jabaridavid12562 жыл бұрын

    Morality comes from God, it is clearly defined in Scripture, which is from God, but Morality doesn't originate, there. Just wanted to say that. God Bless

  • @ObsessedStephenKingFanatic1974

    @ObsessedStephenKingFanatic1974

    Жыл бұрын

    No. Morality comes from evolution.

  • @ARhere
    @ARhere2 жыл бұрын

    I really dislike these debates as it creates a false division between science and faith in peoples eyes. This will not bring people to Jesus and creates ignorant Christians. Science is simply a structure of identifying a theory that is testable under Earthly conditions (meaning: not divine). Mark 3:1-6 is just as difficult to prove using the scientific method as it is for the Bible to teach Ohm's law to engineering students.

  • @trentsworld7745
    @trentsworld77452 жыл бұрын

    Morality is relative. We can base our moral standards on anything. Many of which, are derivative of our emotions and empathy.

  • @Doc-Holliday1851

    @Doc-Holliday1851

    2 жыл бұрын

    If morality is relative then there is no morality.

  • @trentsworld7745

    @trentsworld7745

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Doc-Holliday1851 That makes no sense. Morality is an artificial construct made by humans. Relativity is in it's nature. It's a idea derivative of our emotions such as empathy and sympathy. It can be a tool to be used as a way to educate and understand the need for perseveration of our fairness and well-being. Christianity uses a fixed position of morality established centuries ago. By people who very knew little about the world, who often used their books as an excuse to control, kill, enslave, etc. For reasons non existent other than the fact that it says so.

  • @Doc-Holliday1851

    @Doc-Holliday1851

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@trentsworld7745 Artificial Adjective : humanely contrived Synonyms - bogus, contrived, factitious, fake, false, feigned, mock, phony, pretended, pseudo, put-on, sham, Antonyms - real, true, genuine, uncontrived You agreed with me without realizing it but then said that I make no sense.

  • @trentsworld7745

    @trentsworld7745

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Doc-Holliday1851 Perhaps I should use a different word other than artificial. There are two definitions. Something made by humans, or in reference to one's behavior. Being insincere. That last one is what you're referring to. The point is, morality exists as a concept.

  • @Doc-Holliday1851

    @Doc-Holliday1851

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@trentsworld7745 yet as a concept it’s completely and utterly fluid so it doesn’t exist. Concepts require standards, if there are no standards then there is no concept.

  • @love_is_sacrifice9414
    @love_is_sacrifice94142 жыл бұрын

    Any Christians struggling with Christianity and Science compatibility can check Inspiring Philosophy's channel. He has good responses to this.

  • @zek62482
    @zek624822 жыл бұрын

    To assume science can explain everything is horrifically arrogant. Sometimes miracles really are miracles.

  • @sovereigngodlisaloves9525
    @sovereigngodlisaloves95252 жыл бұрын

    The woman who spoke about her dog and heaven said she's had no evidence, so sticks with what she knows. I believe that many who say there's no evidence for God haven't look or don't know what or where to investigate.

  • @FronteirWolf
    @FronteirWolf Жыл бұрын

    It would be better to have religious people who are scientists and atheists/agnostics who are scientists than, religious people who are in ministry and atheist/agnostic scientists

  • @loganflowers3133
    @loganflowers3133 Жыл бұрын

    The paleantologist literally says "we admit when we don't know something" after not coming forward to admit that they don't know something. Wow. The cognitive dissonance.

  • @GavinLockard
    @GavinLockard2 жыл бұрын

    The rabbi in this segment was not unusual. Most Jews today openly don't believe the Torah anymore. Sad but true.

  • @harnes64
    @harnes642 жыл бұрын

    12:46 you entirely missed the point!!! You go to a hospital for example,and diagnosis or treatment is evasive,your doctor will tell you for sure they don't know yet. And that's what is meant by we do not know!! Christians on the other hand,will send prayers and thoughts

  • @J_head432
    @J_head432 Жыл бұрын

    My morality comes from my parents though.

  • @benhof2140
    @benhof21402 жыл бұрын

    "Science cannot explain morality, but my scientific beliefs can explain everything"...but remember guys, us Christians are the irrational ones!

  • @phoenixf2136

    @phoenixf2136

    2 жыл бұрын

    Theyre saying that science itself is just a tool to make more informed decisions based off of observations of how the world works. Simple stuff

  • @benhof2140

    @benhof2140

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@phoenixf2136 They contradicted themselves.

  • @phoenixf2136

    @phoenixf2136

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@benhof2140 okay I'm gonna need you to read this carefully. Its not a contradiction, its a description of terms. Science by itself is very simple. It's just observing thelings around us and understanding how they work. That's why they said it doesn't explain morality because morality is an application of scientific facts to work towards a reality that is more beneficial for all of us. Again, it's not a contradiction, it's an explanation and description of terms.

  • @benhof2140

    @benhof2140

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@phoenixf2136 So the industrial revolution was moral...yeah I agree.

  • @benhof2140

    @benhof2140

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@phoenixf2136 What you said about morality is really just a fancy way of saying love thy neighbor.

  • @justincroft794
    @justincroft7942 жыл бұрын

    "Do good so you can live on in the memories of those who love you." All the way up to the heat death of the universe, where nothing lives on in the memory of anything, and the entire endeavor was ultimately pointless. No science can take away my faith. If anything, science just continually proves the magnificence of God's power, and the futility of life without Him. French existentialist atheists are right in their bleak account of the value of life and any reason to do good at all if there is no God. I find that if you actually follow the atheistic worldview to it's conclusion and are committed consistently to its logic, well... Dawkins sums it up nicely. "The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference...we are machines for propagating DNA." In the meantime, as a Christian, God has revealed Himself to us by the prophets and through Jesus Christ, and when we come to Him we have fellowship with Him and a relationship with eternity that makes life ultimately meaningful, despite the suffering that will happen to and around us.