So the suspect stated that one of the victims pulled a knife on him , and then he stabbed the victim . After the stabbing police had to go find him, now if it was self defense why wouldn’t you have stayed on the scene and fully cooperated with law enforcement? Fishy !

@Felecia300

2 ай бұрын

Maybe because he didn't know there was a video clearly showing he was harassed and attacked . I'd have been afraid as well

@Banana_Lana

2 ай бұрын

Because NO knife was pulled on him, ever

@rcg9573

2 ай бұрын

Because he was lying to the cops the whole time after he stabbed those people. He later admitted to his ex wife it was his knife he was carrying that day. So he lied about the knife, lied about being attacked when he threw the first punch sucker punching a woman and then lied further trying to pretend he’d heard about a stabbing and that the suspect looked like him when he had in fact done the stabbing. He also attempted to destroy evidence by tossing the knife, which no person would do if they truly feared for their life (tossing away their weapon).

@Dont.Call.Me.Tall.

2 ай бұрын

He wasn't in fear for his life until after he stabbed 5 woman and young folk. Thats when he goes into cover up mode.

@LG-oq4dy

2 ай бұрын

No doubt the kids were being jerks. But so he was in fear for his life because he was being told to leave by everyone? So much that he rushed on the kids and is seen smiling? And then took the knife out and punched the girl who is telling him to leave? It's fair to say the girl was within her right to be in fear for her life at that point. That's an unexpected and unpredictable response, what else is he going to do? Well, we know now. Both parties should have walked away but him being an adult should've done it first, especially ex military. He knew he was creeping them out. He stayed to play.

She was a good witness! Very credible! Clear and concise!

@derrickforeal

2 ай бұрын

Being in the medical field with a M.A. in the exact field. I have more than one DISCREPANCIES with her approach as well as many many more discrepancies with her evaluation and reporting, or shall i say lack of details in her reports. I reviewed some photos and she missed many things her in report it is truly baffling.

@MiracleFound

2 ай бұрын

I agree! She isn't supposed to add anything when testifying and is bound by the law on what evidence she is allowed to collect. It is very specific training and a very regimented examination. Answering questions during the proceedings doesn't allow for expanding on what you can answer.

@AkoSoCalPinoy

2 ай бұрын

I ConCur!

@lynnhexler-haan3357

2 ай бұрын

​@@derrickforeal I more than agree ! The statement / documentation is woefully inadequate. Red flags galore( Dr.)

@bavros1998

2 ай бұрын

I find it strange how she doesn‘t recall so many details when a case is that extraordinary.

I really like this judge and how professionally the court room is being run!

@bartwieden

2 ай бұрын

He seems to have a good command of the room without being overbearing.

@carriekimble2994

2 ай бұрын

@@bartwieden you bet! Some of these recent trials have been a circus. This professionalism is refreshing.

@BabyShark-kd9jl

2 ай бұрын

I don't like him.

@franmcdonald1011

2 ай бұрын

Judge from "Night Court"

@NinaBologna87

2 ай бұрын

M​@@BabyShark-kd9jl

The fact that the defendant lied about the knife and also that he hid the knife. Very important details.

@jocelynastheart2732

2 ай бұрын

@stephaniehowe0973

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. He told her he turned a knife back onto a victim but also had his own knife for cutting ropes etc? Has very few injuries really consistent with falling in the water. He stabbed 5. Issac died. AJ? Was dead the only time you use CPR for 9 mins. He also changed his appearance & tried to duck away. Not oh my lord help they attacked me!

@rayray2878

2 ай бұрын

He walked away leaving the kids to die so he could hide the knife and then acted like he didn't know why they arrested him wow so many things the man did from the start.

@rayray2878

2 ай бұрын

If your ok after that and you don't even try to call for help for the kids even if he's the one that did it he went and hid the knife and then went on his friend and friends knew what he did his friend walked up there and acted like it was nothing and walked away .

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

Not really important in determining self defense here or did he attack them intentionally??? It’s irrelevant like his lies as the jury only looks at the laws and determine how evidence proves either self defense or he assaulted in revenge to mame them leading to a murder and nearly 2 more murders!

Interesting how the defence questioned this nurse about trauma and how it would effect his memory. All these online bullies have been commenting on how the youngsters couldn’t remember or misremembered and called them liars, but this defence attorney pointing out how trauma affects recall. That is something the prosecution should have made very clear, when he was presenting this case and questioning the youngsters.

@mistyevans8160

2 ай бұрын

Never once did defense call them liars, common sense shows that he is pointing out memories form even when that didn't happen which is also the case for the defendant. Duh!!!

@Psychiatricnerd

2 ай бұрын

I haven’t listened to this part but she has very little training on trauma. That’d be psych.

@worsethanjoerogan8061

2 ай бұрын

I think those teenagers might have poor memories because they were all absolutely plastered drunk and high. 😅

@stoneneils

2 ай бұрын

@@Psychiatricnerd You need to pay closer attention to the video.

@winnievandermerwe3872

2 ай бұрын

@@worsethanjoerogan8061 That’s exactly right, plus they were many and he was one and an elderly man

The grown man lies to the police about - I hear someone was stabbed and I fit the description he said. Then he said a guy (which would have been AJ) had the knife I turned his wrist into his stomach. So first lies about knowing about the event then lies about how and why he stabbed AJ. This was not self defense when you see he walks away from the teens then comes charging back 10-20 mins later with nobody from his group, just him while he checks for his knife. Watch the video it’s clear he went back over with the intent to use that weapon. He opens it before he punches the girl. Why open a knife but not use it if you’re scared enough to need to open a knife? Instead strikes a girl gets hit for doing so which makes sense because they were defending a girl getting hit. Then stabs and guts someone before even getting back to his feet. I feel he was looking for a reason to use that knife.

@rcg9573

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. It seems like all his fascist domestic violence support base are in here claiming he’s innocent when he was clearly the instigator the entire event.

@shirleyperry3170

2 ай бұрын

Truth!

@darlenea653

2 ай бұрын

And the first stab victim was a girl that wasn’t interacting with him anymore.

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

Yeah he’s a psychopath! Something is wrong with him mentally! They now hint PTSD but he was psychotic and should have been on different medications!

@Real_Noreaga_

2 ай бұрын

Any evidence of him punching female? Or just the word of all the liars? They effed around and found out. Not guilty.

Good grief if he didn’t have pain 5+ hours after the incident then I doubt there is much acute pain.

@blindlemon9

2 ай бұрын

That is not necessarily the case. Acute pain does not always morph into sub-acute or residual pain.

@deepemotion2745

2 ай бұрын

he got slapped and pushed by skinny minor teenage boys with girl bodies of course there's no injury on mr. mui guys a pyscho

@warmlantern0000

2 ай бұрын

HES GUILTY

@girlnextdoor0703

2 ай бұрын

@@warmlantern0000 yes, he is. Exactly. Prayers the jury sees it that way too.

@triciac1019

2 ай бұрын

​@@warmlantern0000You didn't watch the full length video nor listen to all the testimony.

He had no purpose going back by the kids with a knife if he had no intention to harm them. And that's exactly what he did

@BabyShark-kd9jl

2 ай бұрын

When did he "go back"? They followed him.

@stoneneils

2 ай бұрын

That's why his goose is cooked. Maybe if they were out at night on the boardwalk in atlantic city, but in a water park? He's going to jail for life.

@BabyShark-kd9jl

2 ай бұрын

@@stoneneils well, you can dream; that's a weird way to describe a river... where you from?

@goose33

2 ай бұрын

​@@stoneneils he had the knife the entire time on his shorts lol

@kimthreadgold2755

2 ай бұрын

There is no record of that? What are you talking about?

So Miu stated to her "a guy pulled a knife on me. I took his wrist and turned it into his belly." Miu needs to be required to identify the guy who pulled a knife on him. Seems he told different authorites different stories. GUILTY.

@ladymuck2151

2 ай бұрын

They’ve all told different stories. The kids have been coached into saying certain things and going against what they told law enforcement in the beginning. They know they effed up and they’re trying to turn it back on him. The person holding the camera and shouting slurs at Miu should be held accountable as well. That was animalistic behaviour, unnecessary and led to 4 stabbings.

@KimVerhaaff

2 ай бұрын

It was made very clear, that was his own knife.

@ooyoututchmytralala

2 ай бұрын

@@ladymuck2151good to see another crazy person out themselves to the public. You have been documented and this will be used for when they open up the asylums again 😊

@melsafken764

2 ай бұрын

​@@ladymuck2151 Didn't you hear the nurse explain about trauma & injuries?

@murphyandmurphybrand

2 ай бұрын

Have you actually watched the video. That’s the problem in today’s world, something can be plain as day yet people still find some way of blaming someone else. The guy defended himself. Who’s cares what he said afterwards

Water doesn't remove bruises. He had no bruises in the areas he claims he was struck.

@stevens3193

2 ай бұрын

I dont bruise ive be punched and not a mark it doesnt mean anything wow so simple minded some idiots are

@jamesbroomfield7799

2 ай бұрын

And water doesn't stop your ear from bleeding. Smh he claims his ear was bleeding and he washed it off in the river. Then seeing these little puny scratches on his back is laughable

@Katie-vy5rd

2 ай бұрын

Redness, swelling and bruising often doesn't appear until the passage of time, depending on several variables

@jordanhawkins5749

2 ай бұрын

@@jamesbroomfield7799 The video shows he was assaulted lol! What we don’t see is him hitting two belligerent and aggressive women!

@dirtyfrench2926

2 ай бұрын

​@@jordanhawkins5749It's almost like "hitting a girl" didn't happen and it's these teens bs justification for their moblike behavior and assault.

Wow the suspect lied to the nurse when she examined him: he said the young man had a knife and attacked him so he turned the knife against him…what a liar! The teenagers didn’t have a knife ::HE HAD THE KNIFE AND STBBED 5 IF THEM ! Hope the judge and jury heard that lie!!

@idonwantella2824

2 ай бұрын

I just hope they watch the video because he was clearly defending himself.

@michaelcalland801

2 ай бұрын

What’s more important is “ would a reasonable person who was in Mr Miu’s position feel that his life was in danger” ? That’s what it’s going to come down to

@leeadams776

2 ай бұрын

He had already stabbed the girl before the guy in the yellow shorts was stabbed! So how could he use a knife on the girl if he " used the knife the boy had against him and cut his stomach open"? Why would he lie if he felt he was the one being wronged? The knife was in his right hand the blood on his ear probably wasn't his. It probably came from castoff from one of the victims.

@edyl7393

2 ай бұрын

@@leeadams776 he was attacked first by the group, if they didn't approach him with the knife out, they would have been fine. Self defense period.

@forpetessake3532

2 ай бұрын

do you hope the judge and jury heard. all the teen witnesses lies ? and ? DO YOU KNOW personally if anyone in that 10-12 person mob carried a knife ? you know ?

Injuries dont matter. Do you believe your life was at risk at the time.

He had a coronary bypass. An elevated heart rate is not shocking. He likely has blood pressure issues.

@kickboxer2149

2 ай бұрын

Jury may not know that though lol

@Dont.Call.Me.Tall.

2 ай бұрын

So he has the right to stab whatever makes his heart flutter? Gee. What ticking time bombs this would create.

@codingwithellie

2 ай бұрын

@@Dont.Call.Me.Tall. Nobody said that, Bob. Keep moving.

@jamesbroomfield7799

2 ай бұрын

Someone claiming to be weak and fragile would get away with using a gun. Buy if you're weak and fragile, how tf are you going to run around a river and then stab ppl. It takes a decent amount of force, strength and effort to stab someone. He obviously was perfectly fine because if he was so weak, why go down the river chasing teens thst were sitting in their tubes? Smh.

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

@@Dont.Call.Me.Tall.that’s not what happened but stay dishonest.👍🏾

and...being under arrest and having stabbed and killed someone may cause high heart rate, blood pressure, etc.

@notadumbblond3

2 ай бұрын

So can being middle aged, having just had a quadruple bypass and having to defend your life against a mob of athletic young men.

It was five hours after the attack yet he had no bruises.

@dragonbone5000

2 ай бұрын

That’s why I am suspicious of this nurse. How is that possible? We all saw the attack on video… She was examining him as a homicide suspect, NOT as a victim.

@robertsylvester3542

2 ай бұрын

@@dragonbone5000they were kids they didn’t have the strength to hurt him and inflict visible damage. That’s why none of it was visible.

@allytrudie864

2 ай бұрын

@@robertsylvester354218 year old boys are stronger than a middle aged man. You are just entering your prime strength at that age. Good try thoigh

@LaPlaztique

2 ай бұрын

@@allytrudie864There was only one 17 year old. The rest of the “kids” were 20-24 years old.

@user-sk9sp7pe4y

2 ай бұрын

@@robertsylvester3542 bruh the one kid is a wrestler/football player and lifts weights and considers himself strong in his testimony, the kid that recorded it all.

Defense attorneys showing insignificant red scratches, trying to show Mui acted in self-defense. Miu murdered a 17 year old by stabbing Issac's chest going though two of Isaac's ribs and cutting Isaac's heart. Mui gutted a kid as if he was a fish, AJ's heart stopped twice one for 9 minutes. Stabbed the girl who had to have major surgery. Miu stabbed two others. Self-defense is great bodily harm, this is not self defense, it is overkill.

@cheshirecat6518

2 ай бұрын

And he never tried to verbally deescalate the situation. Which was weird to say the least.

@EUZ890

2 ай бұрын

The defendant had beyond violent killer psychopath serial killer tendencies. It’s beyond self defense he will be found guilty

@JanaJacob-ii1bq

2 ай бұрын

Exactly what I thought seeing this! Overkill not defending yourself and retreating once your immediate threat is over.

@CHAOSDEATHCULT

2 ай бұрын

He stabbed everyone once, one person had an extra scratch. How is that overkill? The whole thing lasted like 6 seconds (the actual stabbing) He was surrounded & being assaulted by multiple people. You're insane.

@JanaJacob-ii1bq

2 ай бұрын

AJ was disembowelled!His guts were outside his body! He killed Isaac and by some miracle AJ lived against all the odds.He went into cardiac arrest 2 times ! He most likely has intestinal issues from the damage.

They’re tiny scratches …. Jeeez 🤦🏽‍♀️

@Theresa89

2 ай бұрын

Paper cuts hurts just as much .

@snowwhite2524

2 ай бұрын

​@@Theresa89If not more.

@JulieTobin-Ruszczyk

2 ай бұрын

So he fell in a river full of rock probably

@snowwhite2524

2 ай бұрын

@@JulieTobin-Ruszczyk He literally and figuratively got butthurt and murdered a teenager over it. I'm assuming that his bruised ego was the injury that hurt him the most and was the motivation behind his attempt to slaughter everyone within arms reach.

@bohoxplorer840

2 ай бұрын

i know right my dog sratches me worse than that!!

He stabbed multiple people and had blood on his ear that he washed off in the river, but no visible injury to the ear. Why would the prosecution not point out it was likely not his blood? Defense is making it out like it was evidence of him being injured. The prosecution is not present really. I mean they let the defense ask all the victims about their memory and challenge their memory with step by step through the video, but the prosecution barely challenges Miu's wife and friends when their memories and statements are clearly bs. They just said he was on PTSD medicine at the time. For what? Did he forget to take it? Are there blood levels for him for anything? Where is his medical history to see what his normal bp and heart rate are? Where are the questions about how often do victims lie about how they injured their attacker? He never seemed rattled or in shock. His group floated on down the river of blood past the victims and nobody talked about anything. Then acted surprised when the police stopped him. Why? What did he do? In the frame by frame, you see his friend look horrified. He saw the water run red with blood, but they all left the horriffic scene by going through it and no one said anything. Wife never asked a single question, but they all say the same bs that is absolutely not believable.

@jamesbroomfield7799

2 ай бұрын

The prosecution is missing on a lot of points. Like Isaac getting stabbed , the defense tries to make it look like Isaac choked miu and did it to just be mean. But Isaac didn't touch miu until after miu stabbed Riley and Tony. Then Isaac comes and shoves miu back with his hands making contact with mius neck and chest. And the way I see it is Isaac came to tge defense of Riley and Tony. Unfortunately we don't get to hear Isaac's pov because miu killed him as Isaac was trying to push him away from Tony. Isaac has rights too. Isaac is entitled to self defense too. He is allowed to defend others he sees in trouble. Why doesn't the prosecution speak for Isaac? They make Isaac lookl like he just wanted to get a lick in on miu but he never touches miu until miu stabs Riley and Tony. That's self defense on Isaac's part. Had Isaac been armed with a gun, he could've shot miu dead after seeing Riley and Tony get stabbed. And it would've been totally justified. So why isn't he justified for using his bare hands? The prosecution is terrible

@marcyc.3311

2 ай бұрын

@jamesbroomfield7799 You're absolutely right 100%...their trying to make it look like these kids wanted trouble n all they wanted vasectomy enjoy their time atvthevriver..but he comes along n starts crap with them I guess bc he seen they had no adult with them n he could get away with a lie. I pray to God thr jury finds him guilty bc this would of never happened if he just did what his friend told him to do was not go looking for the phone. Those kids have to live with this truma for the rest of their lives..he needs to pay for what he did.

@defaultname7685

2 ай бұрын

@@jamesbroomfield7799 Nah the prosecution knows that it was self defense, I think they've pretty much resigned to acquittal.

@cyndi795

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!!! The friends should all be charged

@showton8333

2 ай бұрын

@@jamesbroomfield7799, you’re absolutely right! The attacker that died, from injuries he sustained during his videoed attack, certainly did have rights; he had the right to back off from the victim that he and his friends are shown accosting on video. He had the right not to “push” the victim…with both hands visibly on the victim’s throat. But no, as one of the attacker, Tony didn’t have the right to choke the victim of the mob’s attack. Did you notice how fast the 13 stopped laughing , mocking, taunting, jeering and physical attacking the older man…once he started cutting his violent attackers?

Hospital nurse examining person suspected of knifing 5, killing 1 at rowdy, drunken weekend river tubing party doesn't draw blood in case maybe alcohol or drugs are involved? Stellar police work.

@sjastram

2 ай бұрын

She would have had to have been presented with a warrant.

@BrandiniTheGenei

2 ай бұрын

She’s not a cop and can’t do it with out a warrant fumbles

@MN-Hillbilly

2 ай бұрын

​@@sjastramIt is interesting,if she couldn't draw blood without a warrant why is the court allowing the statements made by Miu to her given to the jurors? Is she performing her duties as medical professional or someone working under and trained by law enforcement?

@lisamcfarland8518

2 ай бұрын

Thought same, 🤷🏻‍♀️.

@jamesbroomfield7799

2 ай бұрын

Yep. She goes to the trouble of taking pics of near invisible scratches but didn't draw blood? Smh

His cardiologist should have a stern word with him about getting involved in such encounters.

@wendyhenschel.

2 ай бұрын

and weight management

@susiepoadster4642

2 ай бұрын

Yes, don’t go around stabbing young people and being super creepy, it might raise your blood pressure or heart rate, cause you to be found guilty of murder and assault with a deadly weapon, cause you to go to prison and those buffs gonna hurt too.

@networth00

2 ай бұрын

He was the victim here. How could his doctor stop him being assaulted.

@networth00

2 ай бұрын

@@susiepoadster4642 Gawd you people calling someone "creepy" is getting so old. I think you're actually the creepy one. Go look in the mirror.

@sherry8444

2 ай бұрын

@@networth00 Where did I say anything about stopping him being assaulted. I did say about involving himself in encounters, he chose to snorkel up to the pack of drunk teens. He should not have volunteered for the silly search mission, he could have stayed with his group, or better yet, stayed at home.

The defense trying to compare this situation to victims of SA and extreme violence, does nothing but highlight how insignificant his scrapes are 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

@AndrewSmith-qw5kt

2 ай бұрын

Kyle Rittenhouse had no injuries to him as he defended himself during his mob attack during the BLM protest and was found not guilty. Same will happen here.

@cardo718

2 ай бұрын

How is the defense trying to do this comparison?

@HaVoKisthebetterSuMmErS

2 ай бұрын

Yeah they keep harping on "shock" but it's clearly "oops I'm in deep shit"

@HaVoKisthebetterSuMmErS

2 ай бұрын

​@cardo718 they are trying paint a picture of man that was brutalized into a trauma state to explain why he didn't act like a normal person after defending oneself, carrying on like nothing happened hiding the knife, not sayin anything about it to anyone

@noklarok

2 ай бұрын

have you ever been attacked by a mob before?

I have worse injuries from my foster kittens damn

@user-pn1ms2xd4z

2 ай бұрын

Preach

@tamarak9393

2 ай бұрын

Our one new kitty likes to climb my legs while I do the dishes. My legs are covered in scratches.

He doesn't have to have any pain in order for this to be an assault and in order for his life to have been threatened. She's just a nurse. She's not exactly an expert at this kind of thing.

@glenf6639

2 ай бұрын

How threatened was he by a group that HE CHARGED. He keeps saying he stood his ground but he physically ran up stream to place himself in the midst of this large group. Actions of a very scared man for sure.

@guestguest2030

2 ай бұрын

@@glenf6639 He was led to believe they had his phone. That's why he walked towards them. If they had kept their hands to themselves and shut their mouths, none of this would have happened. The blame lies with them.

@networth00

2 ай бұрын

@@glenf6639 He went to look for a phone. When you say HE CHARGED... there's video of him NOT charging anyone. He was holding a snorkel and then fell.

He cannot incorrectly claim that someone else had a knife held against him, and he turned their wrist so that they stabbed themselves.

@dickfitswell3437

2 ай бұрын

That's why he is going to prison for a very long time. Now nothing he says can be taken as truth. He is the only one with a knife and it's fact

@memyself3275

2 ай бұрын

@@dickfitswell3437 Its clear everyone is lying. The prosecution witnesses need to be telling the truth or the whole thing falls apart, just like what were seeing. NO BILL.

@denisewinans9612

2 ай бұрын

If the other guys had his knife, why wasn't he stabbed? He had his knife the whole time.

@showton8333

2 ай бұрын

Was he under oath when he made the statement? No? Then it’s irrelevant.

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

No he can’t lie like that but that’s not going to be a decider of this case as jury goes by the law on self defense and aggravated assault and murder and looks at true evidence against those laws. It’s going to be that video deciding this case! The fact that the man lied and sneaked away is not a big factor as he may not have known he was defending himself by law and just had a reaction that he did wrong and wanted to hide out of embarrassment to his friends. Only later on realizing he was lawful in defending himself against vile drunk kids attacking him!

No, his heart rate isn’t outside the normal range. Normal range is 60-100, and an obese guy having a heart rate of 91 isn’t anything at all

@marguerilla

2 ай бұрын

100 is not a normal resting HR

@Concert643

2 ай бұрын

@@marguerilla 60-100 is a normal resting heart rate range…. been on medicine 32 years…you don’t know what you’re talking about lol

@Concert643

2 ай бұрын

@@marguerilla A normal resting heart rate for adults ranges from 60 to 100 beats per minute. Generally, a lower heart rate at rest implies more efficient heart function and better cardiovascular fitness. For example, a well-trained athlete might have a normal resting heart rate closer to 40 beats per minute. 👆👆👆👆…literally from a medical website

@marguerilla

2 ай бұрын

@@Concert643 From the Harvard Med site: "When you are at rest, your heart is pumping the lowest amount of blood to supply the oxygen your body's needs. *Although the official normal resting heart rate ranges from 60 to 100 beats per minute, the range for most healthy adults is between 55 and 85 beats per minute.* However, other factors can affect your resting heart rate, such as - stress - anxiety - hormones - medication - physical activity level." I work in clinical pharma research and have advanced degree in neurobiology. 91 is out of the conservative healthy range (I've lived and worked abroad in Europe and Asia and that is certainly the case outside of the US where the "average" person is clinically obese to begin with), but not so far out of range as to be clinically significant finding in a drug trial. But in this case, the man has had heart attacks and massive bypass surgery within past few years and surely is medicated to prevent further stress on his cardiac health. They want to keep such a patients heart rate down and his meds would surely be a *HR LOWERING* factor here. 100 HR is normal if taken in isolation in an otherwise healthy person during a check up, but a competent MD will look closer at a man with recent major cardiac surgery and history of heart attack and ongoing meds with a resting HR nearing 100.

@marguerilla

2 ай бұрын

@@Concert643 Taking a medicine for 32 years does not mean you understand why you're on the medicine, how it works, when or why it would be assessed necessary in others, comorbid factors esp postsurg... Google doesn't give you a graduate degree.

The murderer defendant lied to the cops the whole time after he stabbed those people. He first lied and claimed he took the knife off one of the kids and later admitted to his ex wife it was his knife he’d been carrying that day. So he lied about the knife, lied about them approaching him when it was he who was on the right side of the river who waded across the river to interact with them on the left side of the river, lied about being attacked when he threw the first punch sucker punching a woman and then lied further trying to pretend he’d heard about a stabbing and that the suspect looked like him when he had in fact done the stabbing. He also attempted to destroy evidence by tossing the knife, which no person would do if they truly feared for their life (tossing away their weapon).

@jamesbroomfield7799

2 ай бұрын

He also stabbed the girl for no reason and then stabbed Tony for trying to break it up and touching his shoulder. You don't get to stab ppl for touching your shoulder

@chastityporter6729

2 ай бұрын

Exactly, I have no idea why people are having such a hard time figuring this out. Yes it was a group of teens drinking, but they weren't beating the shisa out of him or anything. He literally stabbed 5 teens, murdered one and tossed the knife and lied all the way through. Crazy!!

@gdiup9241

2 ай бұрын

💯

@rayray2878

2 ай бұрын

Plus he left them to die his friend left them to die also he should be in trouble too.

@forpetessake3532

2 ай бұрын

that woman he hit? she assaulted him FIRST - ITS ON VID , she shoved him ! he had every right to smak her - SHE literally got in that fight not knowing what was going on - her assault SET the whole tragedy in motion. BTW

Dude flat out lied about one of the kids pulling a knife on him and he supposedly turned it around on him. This guy is so guilty it's ridiculous.

@chrisrodriguez388

2 ай бұрын

Lmao. And the kids have been truthful this whole time? Ok, simp. Clearly you haven’t seen the video of what transpired and the trial videos of their testimonies.

@BabyShark-kd9jl

2 ай бұрын

All those kids lied too so everyone is even there.

@mplscarsales6652

2 ай бұрын

Import part is was it in self defense or not ? The lies don’t matter in the end

@seattlejayde

2 ай бұрын

I feel it was self defense

@BeingConformed

2 ай бұрын

He's such a liar. Lies are lies, but lying about little things and lying about them having a knife is ridiculous.

I'm not taking sides , but the defense can't have it both ways . He is saying that maybe his client was unable to remember clearly, or be sure of what exactly took place or he was unable to express what took place, ie , saying that the other person had the knife, but he is grilling the teens that certainly had violence done upon them . And when they are unclear or have made conditictory statements they are made out to be liars.

@Paullyb79

2 ай бұрын

Ahh yes. Lawyers, bastions of evenhandedness :p

@adrienne1958l

2 ай бұрын

@@Paullyb79 yah got me 😏

@rushoke

2 ай бұрын

It's the job of the defense attorney to make his client look good and to discredit the prosecution's witnesses. If a defendant doesn't get a vigorous defense he/she can have grounds for an appeal.

@adrienne1958l

2 ай бұрын

@@rushoke , I understand. I was just commenting on the obvious fact .

@hugostiglitz5976

2 ай бұрын

What I know is, if I were in them kids shoes, no chance would I ever act like a bully and jump someone… On the other side, if I were in dudes shoes, There would be a whole lot more red in the water

The police not getting blood for alcohol and drug use is crap.

@agustinbarquero8898

2 ай бұрын

They can't

At first, I thought this to be defence. But as time goes on, the actions of the old man seems very devious.

@AndrewSmith-qw5kt

2 ай бұрын

Are you blind? Did you see the video?

@americabarajas5408

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@AndrewSmith-qw5kt did you ? Miu started the PHYSICAL altercations. as an adult he should have stopped escalating the situation. the teens were confused about why he was in their space and looking in the water. Miu and the boys started to bicker and neither party was helping the situation. then Miu escalated it physically once he hit one of the girls that walked in to the argument. the whole situation was a disaster. BUT in no way was Miu ever in a position where he had to kill a 17 year old, cut multiple people’s stomachs open, hide evidence, and then act like nothing happened with no remorse. he is an angry man that got his ego hurt, that’s not defending your life

@AndrewSmith-qw5kt

2 ай бұрын

@@americabarajas5408 Are you familiar with the Kyle Rittenhouse case, lady?? This is the same thing and will have the same result!

@americabarajas5408

2 ай бұрын

@@AndrewSmith-qw5ktyes lol, this dudes lawyer worked on that case. that’s why both cases have a very similar defense. it’s smart i can’t lie🤷🏽‍♀️ but i see now you don’t actually care about the details of what’s going on since you immediately started talking about kyle instead of THE POINT OF YOUR COMMENT lmfao. have a good day ;)

@backalleyburrito1815

2 ай бұрын

​​@@americabarajas5408doesn't matter what the man was doing under the water as he wasn't assaulting or harassing anyone. The kids made up their own story of what he was doing and started harassing him first and he responded, then the kids attempted to jump him and got stabbed. After the video I watched and have gathered as much info as I can on it, imo this is a clear case of self defense.

Note to self - For whatever reason, if you stab a bunch of kids in a river and end up getting charged, you may have photos like this shown of you in open court. I do not have that much body positivity. 😬

@lev0n3241968

2 ай бұрын

I don't think his was, at all, based on "body positivity"

@psilynt1

2 ай бұрын

Everyone should be forced to go through some nursing or medical training to desensitize us all. You get used looking at nude bodies. Most people aren't glamorous specimens of humankind when naked. "Normal people" these days freak out at being or seeing someone without clothes. Even statues sets them off! They think showing nibs or bits is porn and have unrealistic body image expectations.

@Karma4All-

2 ай бұрын

Murder was on his mind, not how he looked.

@joko09010

2 ай бұрын

@@Karma4All- Haha yeah pretty much.

Thankfully the kids recorded their attack on him because weather he had marks or not it still happened...some folks seem to forget that

@yolandawilson6619

2 ай бұрын

The recording actually shows him as the attacker and aggressor.

@Angel-vb5ot

2 ай бұрын

​@@yolandawilson6619 Idk what you're watching, but I see a pack of drunk/high wild jacka$$es attacking him and screaming laughter like baboons. I also see him trying, more than once, to walk away and then getting in his face, blocking his path, and pushing him before he pulled out his knife.

@melsafken764

2 ай бұрын

They started recording when he rushed them!

@Angel-vb5ot

2 ай бұрын

@@melsafken764 They started recording after the antagonized him and he finally responded with running at them and trying to push them along, past the section where he was looking for a lost phone.

@gSmyth0487

2 ай бұрын

​@Angel-vb5ot they have every right to be there just like he does...

Lol why is the prosecution letting her be used as an expert on psychological trauma? She’s neither a doctor, nor a mental health professional

@idonwantella2824

2 ай бұрын

She is part of SART and receives training on psychological trauma.

@coleengogerty3852

2 ай бұрын

Nurses are educated in mental health issues regularly. W learn it in our initial nursing school as well as during our hospital rotations with actual patients. Then we are required to have continued education for our licensed and hospitals require education on mental health as well in a yearly basis. Plus there is your constant direct care of people.

@Mark-eu6mc

2 ай бұрын

Well she’s one of the only medical witnesses they had immediately after the crime. You’re not even a nurse so stfu lmaoo

this prosecutor has great tonality in his voice. very seasoned at asking questions.

Wow that guy with the knife sure told a bunch of lies at the hospital didn't he . Well he was just trying to cover his own ass someone had a knife pointed at him and he turned it into his stomach. And then he ripped them all the way up from down from the belly button up to his ribs. Then all of his guts fell out. There was not six or seven guys on top of them beating him up at the same time either. He sure got the heck out of there after all that Mayhem changed his clothes and tried to get the hell out of there real quick didn't he. I still don't know why the man with the knife didn't just walk back to his own group and leave it at that. There has been one kid shown I think that punched him in the face a couple of times and that was after he had punched that lady in the eye and then just reached out and stabbed the other woman on her side. No one laid a hand on that man with the knife until after he punched and then stabbed that other lady.

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

You have some facts wrong, but I agree the amount of aggravated assault that man did was psychotic crazy and though he got punched in face, he could have left after getting up and not gone after them and attacked like a wild animal! I hope he is convicted as it was nearly 3 murders here. He lunged after those kids and could have gotten away instead.

@laurengriffin5713

2 ай бұрын

I think he was very drunk. Dante's father expressed that was his impression of him, and the beginning of the police interview he states it himself. His wife tried to say he had maybe 2 beers, but I think she was just downplaying it to protect him. Most people could have communicated about the phone, or looking for lost trinkets. He just said a smartass remark, then nothing & started messing with their tubes. He could have yelled to his friend, hey, I think these kids have your phone! They could have called police to intervene & try to retrieve it for them. But ultimately, it was a phone, & not worth multiple lives or a prison sentence. He used such poor judgment. The kids really did too, but they got a hell of a harsh lesson for it.

@Martha-op1fb

2 ай бұрын

@@laurengriffin5713 in the end I really don't think those boys had the phone he says he was looking for you would think that would have been brought out in court if they had of taking it. I think they were too busy drinking and being obnoxious I don't think that deserves having your life being taken because of the kids calling him names. And I think that's what angered that man didn't like to be called names. If I stabbed everybody who ever called me names I'd be on death row or at least in prison for the rest of my life. It's like sticks and stones . But to gut several people like he did the act alone would be making me throw up. It's like he had no reaction to any of that. Did they ever find the knife that he stabbed those five people with?

He has a few scratches, one young man died and one seriously injured. That man is crazy.

@BrandiniTheGenei

2 ай бұрын

You are crazy.

@Raquel-ry5ry

2 ай бұрын

who defended himself from an alcoholic and drug addict "kid" .

@terryt2728

2 ай бұрын

​@Raquel-ry5ry The man walked up on them. He then hit a lady. He was the aggressor. Had he not walked up on them like a crazy man none of this would have happened. People that are scared enough to kill someone doesn't give their group a wave and a smile then spend 10 seconds digging thier knife out. They get out of the situation. It's one heck of a coincidence that he hit that lady right after he got his knife out.

@my2cents320

2 ай бұрын

The entitled drunk girls started the whole thing. And as usual a dude paid with his life. Now they’re all lying and playing victim. Disgusting. They all have his blood on their hands.

@rcg9573

2 ай бұрын

@Raquel-ry5ry Nonsense. He was the aggressor the entire time. He approached them, refused to leave when asked, threw the first punch and he did the stabbing,

FOX 9. FIRE your camera person! Too slow to go to what's being shown and wont stay, so we can see what they are talking about. Would rather see the evidence, than watch the person describing. Those pictures are awful. All washed out. Hope the jury gets better version. Did they use a crap cam to take the pics? What the nurse did not take a blood sample from a supposed murderer? I would think that would be a huge thing, to determine state of mind. No pictures of his hands? She failed at her job.

@erinmountin905

2 ай бұрын

An officer testified that he took photos of the hands

abrasion=scratch correct? correct, not life threatening injuries or broken bones, black eyes or bruising, correct/correct

@Raquel-ry5ry

2 ай бұрын

that's because he pulled a knife or else he would be dead right now.

@AFloridaSon

2 ай бұрын

​@Raquel-ry5ry ​Did you get that outcome from a crystal ball, are you psychic, or how would you know what might have happened?

@AndrewSmith-qw5kt

2 ай бұрын

​@@AFloridaSonBecause we saw the video. Had he not defended himself the teenage mob would only have become more violent. He's not guilt of anything but self defense.

@jamesbroomfield7799

2 ай бұрын

​@@Raquel-ry5rylol wtf are you talking about smh nobody beat him up. He got slapped at the very beginning and after that they let him up so he can leave. They never jumped him they never ganged up on him. They never kick him. They pushed him. And aj didn't even push him in the water. That was himself using his body weight to inflict max damage. Go watch video. He lunged forward at aj's belly as aj puts his hands up to push him back, but you see miu use his body weight to upward and fall backwards to produce that gutting wound that he caused. Then he fell back in the water. He either did this before or trained for it. Because when I saw him use his own momentum and body weight to inflict thst type of damage I was like Damn, this mf must be ex Russian special forces. That was definitely by design. They tried say aj pushed him down but it was mainly mius own momentum that made him fall back.

@melsafken764

2 ай бұрын

​@@Raquel-ry5ry 😂

Its so nice to see Harry from nightcourt as the judge in this case. He is looking great for his age

@jonsmith20766

Ай бұрын

Was looking for this comment. I thought I was the only one that noticed.

Prosecutor is terrible….seems like he’s putting forth very little effort. “What was his pulse?” “91” A great follow up question would be “what is a normal *resting* pulse/HR of an adult not under distress?” The answer of 91 means nothing to non-medical professionals without context! 🤦‍♀️

@mistyevans8160

2 ай бұрын

Because he has very little to actually go on for murder and 4x attempted murder.

@mistyevans8160

2 ай бұрын

And even a normal based on statistics still could be different because not every single human is exactly alike in how their body is when in or out of homeostasis.

@melsafken764

2 ай бұрын

I think the nurse was the defendant's witness. Sent in to document his injuries. *She sure smiles at his attorney a lot. Kinda creepy.

@jeannecasey3408

2 ай бұрын

Prosecutors are terrible. Missing one opportunity after another to prove that suspect was not acting in defense but with visceral intent to hurt people any way he can. Probably a narcissist.

@siriusleigh24

2 ай бұрын

You would agree that that's (91) elevated correct? Nurse: I... it depends on the person. Says without medical history she couldn't say.

Wonder how those young folks could have avoided getting stabbed. Maybe not accusing a perfect stranger of being a creeper and attacking him. After heart surgery , your outlook changes in life. You feel vulnerable. Bummer all around in this one. I never float the river anymore. Too many crazies at every bend

I'm sorry, she took pictures of every little scratch on his back but didn't take pictures of his hands / knuckles where she could clearly see injuries to the back of his hand? That doesn't make any sense. 🤔🤔🤔

Defendant's injuries were measured in centimeters, victims injuries measured in inches ugh

@North95

2 ай бұрын

We really need to go metric, but we won’t.

Having a 'foggy' mind is forgetting who hit you and where but not forgetting you had the weapon in your pocket and saying someone else pulled a knife and you got it away from them. Liar, liar your pants are on fire!

@BabyShark-kd9jl

2 ай бұрын

All those kids are liars too.

@NoName-hs4ov

2 ай бұрын

It happens in most self defense cases like this one. When a mob attacks and someone defends themselves to save their life it’s hard to remember. Being attacked by a mod and nearly drowned will make the memory slip.

@440-fishermandrock8

2 ай бұрын

​@NoName-hs4ov you are defending a murderer shame on you and the coward miu. Hope he loses more weight in prison

@warmlantern0000

2 ай бұрын

Only a monster guts kids.

@BabyShark-kd9jl

2 ай бұрын

@@warmlantern0000 I agree with that when it comes to abortionists. Doctors are supposed to do no harm. In terms of this stabbing in self-defense, I disagree. These young men were deathly dangerous to this man.

Yeah bro has nowhere near the amount of wounds you see in self defense cases.

@WalkingDesecration

2 ай бұрын

What are the usual amount of injuries? Lol.

@user-se5rp3yr4h

2 ай бұрын

@@WalkingDesecration the hands especially are usually in pretty rough shape from trying to block injuries and the face and head take a beating just because we naturally aim for those spots.

@WalkingDesecration

2 ай бұрын

@user-se5rp3yr4h there's literal video of him getting hit on his head though. Andwith what you said in mind, if he hit the girl wouldn't his hand have some marking?

@user-se5rp3yr4h

2 ай бұрын

@@WalkingDesecration according to his story at the police station, which he is now claiming not to remember he states that when he went into the water eight to ten people surrounded him and were hitting him, some of them with objects that he couldnt identify. Im just saying a look in a mirror would tell him thats not true.

Unfortunately this Nurse was examining a Suspect which is a pre-drawn conclusion instead of the Victim in which the Evidence Substantiates!

@bobwilson758

2 ай бұрын

True , plus works extremely close with law enforcement - ( Buddy - Buddy ) of course .

@growinglifeorganic940

2 ай бұрын

The old loon was and is a suspect, you must have just skipped over all the video and screenshot still of said old loon holding the knife.

@rcg9573

2 ай бұрын

BS!

@user-pn1ms2xd4z

2 ай бұрын

Your on crak

Apparently if you add ' correct?' to the end of a statement that makes it a question, and it is not considered leading the witness

@Faretheewell608

2 ай бұрын

No. It does not make it a question. The phrasing is poor. Should lead off with "How.." or "Tell the jury.." All questions which elicit a yes or no answer are leading.

Does abrasions look like something somebody would have got from running through the bushes

@kickboxer2149

2 ай бұрын

Scrapes, not really bumps that protrude from the body

@rockstarofredondo

2 ай бұрын

They knocked him down onto rocks in the river. He never ran through bushes.

@melsafken764

2 ай бұрын

​@@rockstarofredondo How would you know if he ran through bushes or not? When he fell back in the water, I doubt his back was scratched by rocks. He kinda went down on his butt. But secondary injury??? 🤨

@Angel-vb5ot

2 ай бұрын

Admittedly, I'm no forensic nurse, but I can't figure out how anyone would have injuries on his back and butt from running through the bushes. Also, there's no suggestion from anyone that he ever ran through any bushes, or ran anywhere. There is, however, a video of him being attacked and falling on his back in the river.

@memyself3275

2 ай бұрын

Backwards, yeah, that's it.

The poor families have to listen to him being called a VICTIM of a traumatic event over & over again. I bet that was very hard to listen to.

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

No doubt! They expect that in a self defense excuse though. There were hellish lies by those kids too!

Kinda weird how happy and excited she looks to be testifying.

This certainly seems like selective memory. I'm sure the situation was really chaotic. But, these young adults don't seem scared at all until they realized people were getting stabbed.

@jakedode

2 ай бұрын

This isn't a witness to the crime. She wasn't nt there.

Of course he washed the blood from his ear, he knew it wasn’t his own! He is one twisted and demented individual!

@user-sk9sp7pe4y

2 ай бұрын

he was under the influence also so it can be argued you know

@tyr5119

2 ай бұрын

How long is the prison sentence for being twisted and demented? And what is the charge?

@smprowse

2 ай бұрын

@@user-sk9sp7pe4y His wife said he only had two beers.

SEE TRANSCRIPT 36:04 & 36:10‼️. Blatant lie by Defendant ❗️. He denies ownership of knife.

@yolandawilson6619

2 ай бұрын

Exactly

@deepsoultarot8272

2 ай бұрын

If he TRULY was acting in SELF DEFENSE, his actions afterwards would have been much different. Such as : calling 911, NOT dumping the knife, not avoiding police, not lying every step of the way...because he had NO idea there was a video. He thought he could lie and claim self defense, but the fact he had the knife out BEFORE being hit & falling in the water shows the REAL reason he did this . .with INTENT. GUILTY

Everything Miu did AFTER the incident eg. discarding the knife, leaving the scene, not calling or going to the police, lying about the facts to everyone, etc. All clearly show that he felt what he had done was wrong and that he screwed up. If the police had not found him, he would NEVER have come forward. Please stop defending this murderer. There have been zero facts in this case that justify his actions. Period.

@jedimaster1445

2 ай бұрын

Him thinking he did wrong or feeling guilty does not mean he broke the law.

@cheshirecat6518

2 ай бұрын

​@@jedimaster1445him hiding it WAS.

@jamesjoste8655

2 ай бұрын

So the man was looking for his cell phone he kick gets accused of being a pedophile. He said he was looking for a little girl he gets surrounded by a mob of young, drunk, high football players. He has a woman up in his face screaming blocking his way to leave. He gets punched in the face knocks down the water and gets slapped several times, and he’s not allowed to defend his self in my day we would’ve walked up and asked me if we could’ve helped him find his cell phone.

@cheshirecat6518

2 ай бұрын

@@jamesjoste8655 from what I saw of the trial, he instigated, threw the first punch, didn't vocalize his desire to leave or deescalate or anything else, pulled out his knife, stabbed a girl in the back and instead of warning anyone away with slashing motions and saying "get back, I have a knife" , he proceeds to aim at bellies and hearts in upward stabbing motions . The young people didn't even have time to register that he had a knife until they were gutted. Not self defense.

@chastityporter6729

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. What is wrong with people.

This guy is asking the same questions as the previous attorney. What a bunch of idiots. One guy doesn't even know how to tie his tie.

@mocamannytiggy

2 ай бұрын

Notice how at the end of each question, he sayd,"correct". This is how the cross examination will trip you up. She was on her gane, and a very credible witness.

hmm, funny how the defense is drilling the point of victims memories not being clear right after the incident for mr. miu - when really he is helping the prosecution with this line of questioning considering his MAIN argument has been the differences between their initial statements versus the testimony 😂

@melaniebest5623

2 ай бұрын

I said the exact same thing when watching.you except this stab witnesses to remember what items someone had in their hand , but your guy is so traumatized he couldn’t get all the details right. More like setting up lies from the jump

@HaVoKisthebetterSuMmErS

2 ай бұрын

The defense really has no choice but to chisel away at as many eye witnesses as possible, it's rather large mountain to climb buts it's the only route he has to sow doubt

@memyself3275

2 ай бұрын

You might want to consider that the accuser holds the burden of proof, not the defendant. If the accuser is lying it weighs much much more than if the defendant lies. Sorry, but that's just how the law works. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

@Grammichal

2 ай бұрын

The testimony from the forensic nurse is not the same as the accusers getting together to coordinate and sanitize their testimony prior to the trial. Two totally different things.

@realslimshailee

2 ай бұрын

@@Grammichal of course it’s not the same thing… but he has been spending the entire trial picking apart every little detail the witnesses may have (even vaguely) recalled wrong throughout the whole trial as if it proves they’re lying yet when it comes to his client it somehow then makes perfect sense? i’m just saying that’s not the brightest line of questioning to go down with her.. whether they made up a story or not, keeping myself fully non bias with this statement: knowing whether or not you just stabbed 5 people less than a half hour before / claiming someone else pulled a knife on you versus you having a knife are not things trauma makes you mix up …… whether you watched someone get punched using the left or right hand, however, is. like i said.. it’s literally doing more good for the opposing side than it is for his argument.

The fact Miu ditched the knife, and blatantly lied, left the scene pretty much sums up the common sense summary

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

It has no bearing on the jury’s decision based on the laws they are given! Evidence vs the laws are what they look at! That man was unaware of self defense laws here being from Romania and his lawyers decided on his defense once assigned to represent him! It could be a self defense case the evil way those vile kids attacked him. If no proof he punched the girl to start the fight then it may be tough on the jury to convict him here! If that were on video it would be a slam dunk for the aggravated assault and murder that was nearly 3! Tough case. I believe he could have left after he got up as the kids stepped back laughing, but he got angry and vengeful and lashed out going after them and that’s just my opinion as not all evidence is on the video and the kids all lied on stand and aren’t credible enough! The severity of the attack to me screams psychotic break in that man that was not lawful in my view though his ptsd mental illness is sad. He should have not come back to force more confrontation and I would use that against him if I was a juror! The rotten mob attack behavior of the kids is not forgivable or overlooked at all drunk or not in this case decision!

If the perpetrator hadn't said he was looking for little girls then none of this would ever have happened. I'm so glad that the student was recording everything on his phone.

@barbthompson4735

2 ай бұрын

He never said he was "looking for little girls" and there is no recording to that affect by the 'influencer.' Do you work for CNN, or is it MSNBC?

@sierra7202

2 ай бұрын

HE NEVER ONCE SAID HE WAS LOOKING FOR LITTLE GIRLS!!! I'm not sure where you got that from. He was looking for his friend's phone. That's why he was wearing goggles. As soon as he moved in their direction, the teenagers started calling him names and a pedophile. He told them he was looking for his phone.

According to the list of medications, he was on no cardiac medications. He was on a cholesterol lowering agent that helps prevent vessel disease, but no blood pressure, heart rate control or heart rhythm control medications. Which implies that his heart was stable, his heart didn’t need medication. His BP was a little high, his heart rate was on the higher side of normal, but within normal limits. Who’s BP and HR wouldn’t be up on a day in which you’ve stabbed multiple people, murdered one person and now been brought into custody.

@perfectlyharmless

2 ай бұрын

A possible side effect of Prasozin is hallucinations. Dinking alcohol and taking prescription medicine is not advised.

Being in the medical field with a M.A. in the exact field. I have more than one DISCREPANCIES with her approach as well as many many more discrepancies with her evaluation and reporting, or lack of.

@bendietrees

2 ай бұрын

Would you be able to share your opinion? She seems inexperienced and biased

@tlucier1973

2 ай бұрын

​@@bendietreesI feel she is unbiased wich is what we need in a witness of this manner.

@goll58

2 ай бұрын

Nurse here as well and I felt she was unbiased and did a overall good assessment. What do you feel she could have done differently or are you picking because you feel the defendant is guilty or?

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

Details Mr know it all! She didn’t know any facts of this case upon examining that man and he told a bunch of lies to her too! She wasn’t the in estimator ya know! She likely thought he WAS the victim!

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

@@goll58 right! She sure did t know any facts in the case upon examining him and he kept lying! She did her best. Might have thought he WAS the victim too!

Miu's back abrasions probably resulted from falling back on rocks or from being in the woods.

@DrDangerPuppy

2 ай бұрын

Since we're just making crap up at this point it probably happened when he parachuted from that plane. Or it could have been that polar bear that attacked him while he was singing "Home on the Range" and gargling through his nose at the same time.

Mui has damed himself with his own words. Not only did he lie to the arresting officer. He’s lied to one of the lead investigating detectives now the jury is hearing that he lied to this nurse.

I got my lawyer degree from Cheerios University therefore I can comment and sound like an authority.😂😂😂

@Faretheewell608

2 ай бұрын

Not to worry. Everyone who has watched a law and Order is a de facto attorney

we saw the video...Mui had the knife in his hand...not what he described to Ashley Hoffman ...

What would you do if you had 13 people jumping on you

@sandihulbert5902

2 ай бұрын

There weren’t 13 people jumping on him 🙄

@jerribaker-pb5mb

2 ай бұрын

@sandihulbert5902 your right but there were 13 there and one of the witnesses said they formed a wall around him

@sandihulbert5902

2 ай бұрын

@@jerribaker-pb5mb forming a wall is much different than saying 13 people jumped on you 🤷🏻‍♀️

I am now changing my opinion on the perpetrator. I think he over reacted to what was going in ro stab people that badly in self defense. His k8es as well. Makes him look more guilty.

@billwalton4571

2 ай бұрын

he didnt have time think about it

Omg this lady smacks her lips before each time she speaks

@oldrvr

2 ай бұрын

I don’t see that.

@juk00

2 ай бұрын

Yes I can hear it almost every time she starts speaking or stops

@ati2d9

2 ай бұрын

It's her tongue and she is literally driving me up a wall!!!! How in the world are people not noticing this. It's beyond obnoxious. I really want to watch but....

Wow extreme violence but didnt look like it. Kids were wrong but af, but Nic went way to far, he went full-on death stabs with 3-4" blade. Knife blade was as long as his fist.

I’m sorry is there a law that you have to receive a certain amount of injuries before you can defend yourself?

Bullcrap, that nurse is full on correct....he couldn't control his pulse rate or blood pressure m, but he could DEFINITELY control his breathing rate!!

@Raquel-ry5ry

2 ай бұрын

that's a lie. you can't control your breathing rate. Are you controlling your breath rate right now ? 😂

@phoenixspirit9530

2 ай бұрын

​@@Raquel-ry5ry Yes you can control how fast or slow you breathe. You can also control how deeply you breathe.

@GB-zg4yu

2 ай бұрын

@@Raquel-ry5ryYou can hold your breath, right? That’s controlling your respiratory rate lol

@Raquel-ry5ry

2 ай бұрын

@@phoenixspirit9530 Can you hold your breath for a hour or will your body make you breath? Are you controlling your breath right now or you don't notice when you breathe? Go take some Anatomy and physiology before saying something so stupid.

@alliecollin1748

2 ай бұрын

@@Raquel-ry5ry ITU nurse of 30 years here, it's extremely EASY to control your breathing rate when you want to, end of! 👊

Hmm, lies about the kid pulling a knife . Yeah, hes a real stand up guy.

@chrisrodriguez388

2 ай бұрын

Lmao. And the kids have been truthful this whole time? Ok, simp. Clearly you haven’t seen the video of what transpired and the trial videos of their testimonies.

@bambuco2

2 ай бұрын

There're people unironically defending him in the comments

Sometimes when you poke a sheep you get a wolf. Best to not meddled with strangers.

@claytonish

2 ай бұрын

Your reasoning for violently “filleting” totally unarmed teenagers that you outweigh by 50+ pounds. Big compassion here, hope you never have an argument or screaming match with a knife wielding psychopath. Good luck out there, be sure not to unsettle a psychopath!

@shanestamball1886

2 ай бұрын

Thats a 2way streak, Miu had ever opportunity to continue to walk away. But he choose to let his ego take over and turn around and go back

@NamesZKP

2 ай бұрын

@@claytonish Has he actually been diagnosed with pyschopathy? If you have the intuition to discern psychopathy in someone without a medical evaluation then why antagonize them? Having psychopathy is not a crime and no one with that disorder deserves to be harassed humiliated or antagonized. Ironical you speak of compassion but then label someone with a mental disorder that you have no compassion for. You are the kettle calling the pot black.

@Meowser186

2 ай бұрын

We deal with that everyday even at the mall. I suspect the group would have moved away from Mui, had they known he had a knife and was prepared to use it in a sneaky way.

@88_Annie_88

2 ай бұрын

​@@shanestamball1886 no he didn't. they followed him and incited a crowd by calling him pedo and saying they were doing it for the culture which is slang for beat him up. I think for people to understand they would either have to experience a threat themselves or drop the bullying mentality then get mad when they meet someone who can stand up to them.

It's difficult to hear the questions----whether coming from prosecution or defense.

@minilea25

2 ай бұрын

Honestly it's painful lol...How do you gather information? By asking questions and getting answers? I'm over here like what???

Are they going to show all of the victims injuries

@carolmaresca450

2 ай бұрын

The description of their injuries is in the description of each episode.

@rebeccaswift7588

2 ай бұрын

They already have shown some injuries. The stabbing victims even showed the jury their scars. I thought AJs scar looked the worst due to it being so big..in the videos shown, we saw the teens being cut and then the aftermath. Some were walking around bleeding and holding the area where they were cut. I only saw one pic of AJs intestines out and the pic was fuzzing out some of it. I wouldn't classify their injuries as stab wounds, more slash wounds.. I find it so odd that none of them noticed Nic holding his pocket knife. Most thought they had been punched rather than cut..adrenaline can mask symptoms and thought process..

@dkg_gdk

2 ай бұрын

yes, they have

@Meowser186

2 ай бұрын

you are late to the party, go back to earlier posts.

@crackerdan8010

2 ай бұрын

He was the victim

The simple fact is Miu is lying to change the story. There is fault on both sides but if those kids didn’t have video proof of most of what happened Miu and the defence lawyers would continue and embroider the lies. The prosecutors are not good, almost lackadaisical. Why was Miu's blood not taken and blood alcohol tested? Crazy to take photos of tiny scratches but not of bruised knuckles. Other than the scrape near his butt the other scratches could have been gotten at anytime crawling around the river or even scratching an itch. As far as I could see he was never hit in the back of the head or ear or kicked. The kids were not violent, stupid maybe, but Miu was the only one with a weapon and could have moved away earlier if he did not want confrontation. His actions - or lack of actions or communication, were a big part of how the events happened.

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

The kids were violent!!! Pushing someone down on rocks in a river and punching him in face twice was all on video! Thats violence dummy! I agree he didn’t communicate but he is from Romania and there will be that issue with so many foreigners here! The kids were holy hell brats drinking illegally and caused whole thing and they paid for it and they know putting their hands on someone has consequences and you just don’t DO THAT!!! You never know if the other person has a weapon to use on you for your stupid physical bullying! Let’s get real here! Both sides wholly wrong here but my stance is it wasn’t self defense but no proof the man started it by punching that girl on video, though I do believe the boys yelling at him “you don’t hit a girl” seems to maybe tell he hit her but drunk kids are not credible! I think he hit her but no proof and that’s a bad thing as that could have decided this case on who the violent aggressor was and voided any self defense. Sad 😩

Trying to claim victim for some minor abrasions as opposed to Mr. Miu opening up his victims with gut-penetrating wounds. Disgusting.

@ladymuck2151

2 ай бұрын

Anyone who’s watched the whole video and still sees gangs 1 & 2 as victims, is no better and would most likely have joined in if they’d been there

@samuraisaxon6800

2 ай бұрын

@darlalapole2943 What world do you live in where you can have a knife in pocket and be assaulted by a group and not use the knife to defend yourself? This is gonna end up a self defense case 100% all you gotta do is watch the entire video

@Thebeautiful11

2 ай бұрын

Play victim? Just because he defended himself? Smh

@moodydearest

2 ай бұрын

Cause and effect...

@nicoleofnowhere8842

2 ай бұрын

@@Thebeautiful11 He walked away more than once. Then came back because they were saying mean things that gave him big feelings. What happened is on him.

Who told him there was blood on his ear and when did he wash it off in the river? Where was the time to have that happen?

@melsafken764

2 ай бұрын

Probably back in his group. He calmly walked across the river with his buddy back to his group. Ditched the knife in the bank. Put on a shirt, hat & glasses & attempted to escape.

Why did they send her to the jail? He didnt sexually assault anyone. Jor, was he sexually assaulted. Why not a real Dr? Weren't they concerned with his heart, and physical condition, atter being assaulted by a mob?

The repetitive of the same questions is unnecessary.

@phoenixspirit9530

2 ай бұрын

Hoping her answers will change ? 🙄

Blood in his ear was probably victims blood... Cast off

@adrienne1958l

2 ай бұрын

That was my thought. The statement you have blood on you ear was changed to , he had blood coming out of my ear . I'm I correct ?

The defense is building a case: if the traumatized teens are unable to recall correctly what is in their statements at the time of the event, how can they hold the defendant to a different standard? I think this will be effective, maybe not, but that seems to be the tact he is taking.

@Paullyb79

2 ай бұрын

Shame for him that there’s so much video of the event. The youngens are terrible witnesses but the defences framing of Mui as being truly afraid for his life is a huge stretch given the footage. It shows no attempt to egress or diffuse the situation. He got roughed up but hardly bashed and for a guy willing to wade into a large group of hostile people TWO times it’s hardly likely he was fearful enough for his life that lethal force was his only option.

@kaylavarela7215

2 ай бұрын

He’s an incredible attorney, that’s for sure.

@KismetandKarma

2 ай бұрын

Except he made a lie about where the knife came from which is ridiculous that he wouldn't know this when it was his own knife.

@mistyevans8160

2 ай бұрын

Exactly! Another person seen it differently so I challenged their statement. Anyone no matter what side that has any minute amount of common sense would understand this.

@bartwieden

2 ай бұрын

@@Paullyb79 You do not have to be injured to plead self defense. He has to show that it was "reasonable" to defend him self.

He never felt threatened 🙄🤧😤

Everyone lied only the video shows the truth

She was collecting medical information, not FACTS, correct?

@texasterri2002

2 ай бұрын

Medical info are facts.

@backalleyburrito1815

2 ай бұрын

Medical info is facts, wtf do you mean? Are you one of those "follow the science unless it hurts my feelings" types of people?

@texasterri2002

2 ай бұрын

@backalleyburrito1815 I have completed graduate school which teaches facts are facts and there is no such thing as alternate facts. Feelings have no impact on facts, unless it is a study on self-reported feelings.

@lilithstribe

2 ай бұрын

Can you re-phrase your question Jane?

Pretty sure I’ve had more severe markings on my back from wearing a bra for a few hours than what Miu received in that life threatening attack.

@michaelscott33

2 ай бұрын

Well, certainly that would make sense, wouldn’t it? If you have fear for your life and feel like you need a weapon to defend yourself, you’re typically trying to prevent any damage or life-ending injuries from occurring, smart guy. As you noticed in the video, when they noticed the guy had stabbed some of them, they immediately dispersed and the situation was ended. That sounds like a successful defense to me. When looking at these cases you have to take into account potential damage. 19 individuals encircling the 1 individual and assaulting him multiple times has the capability of progressing to a much worse situation. Your statement proves why self-defense is important.

@user-vy5fx4hk6h

2 ай бұрын

That doesn't matter. You don't have to be injured to fear for your life.

@sarahmurphy8030

2 ай бұрын

​@@michaelscott33..He deliberately wwnt over to to the group twice and he lunged first he is 100% to blame. Stabbing 5 and killing 1. He ran away from the scene and lied..

@Meowser186

2 ай бұрын

@@michaelscott33 Yes after stabbing and slashing 5 people he walked away with no apparent injuries. Real self defense my a$$. Had he shown people that he had a knife before stabbing anyone, that would have been smart self defense, but at first the victims thought they had just been punched....until the blood starting flowing. Coward act with a knife.

@jongrey9543

2 ай бұрын

One punch can kill and if you are knocked unconscious you can easily drown in very little water

Man lied out of fear. I feel really sorry for him

@HaVoKisthebetterSuMmErS

2 ай бұрын

Tell that to Isaac's mother, I dare you

That is completely crazy now he had his own group and he going to come over and meddle with a bunch of kids.

@Janelle-lu4rx

2 ай бұрын

It was stated he was looking for a cell phone

@Michelle-vr9zl

2 ай бұрын

He was looking for a cell phone. The seven “kids” (17 year old football players) meddled with him.

@dianehansma1725

2 ай бұрын

@@Janelle-lu4rxI call BS on that one! Miu was looking for trouble!

@michaelscott33

2 ай бұрын

Maybe watch the video, smart one. He is clearly using a snorkel to find a cell phone and they smacked the snorkel out of his hands and he was looking for what as they were telling him he would never find it, calling him a child molester and YELLING he was trying to find little girls so loudly it drew a much bigger crowed. They punched and pushed him, punched him while he was down, and then he pulled his knife as they were laughing and bullying him.

@charlescarter3595

2 ай бұрын

@@michaelscott33 that is not what any of us saw on the video

Mr. Miu LIED! Darn😮

@sjastram

2 ай бұрын

Are you really shocked?

@SharonWebb-rw3qw

2 ай бұрын

All of them lied about what happened adults and teens involved. To make themselves look innocent. All on the video should be charged. The only victim is the person that died even if he was bullying the guy. His life still ended. Anyone of them could have stopped it at any point before the stabbing

@ralphmajor1947

2 ай бұрын

He was not under oath?

@mplscarsales6652

2 ай бұрын

Still self defense even if he lied

@SharonWebb-rw3qw

2 ай бұрын

@@mplscarsales6652 the all lied to make themselves look innocent. The video shows enough to prove that this was self defense. Multiple people against 1 person. Those teens will end up realizing at some point that they are the reason their friend ended up killed. Those people that "helped" will realize they instigated the situation without knowing what was going on and off they are the reason that person was killed and others got injured. That man that was ganged up on is gonna know for the rest of his life he took someone's life. Everyone had a hand at that person being killed and will have to live with it the rest of their lives.

Again defense grasping for straws... smh

Why is he questioning her about Miu's mental status? He should have hired a specialist to evaluate him.

@potocatepetl

2 ай бұрын

Agree. Not sure how his PTSD and the medication he was taking was only barely mentioned. She wasn't though the person to ask. She seems clueless.

Simple fact this man was armed and had every intention of causing harm to a group of kids half his size and a third of his age, that do not forget he approached on the OPPOSITE side of the river, this BS the defense makes that the kids could have retreated is ridiculous and should have been pounced on by the prosecution.

@Juke582

2 ай бұрын

Both sides could have retreated and stopped that vile bullying!

And he was found guilty 💯💯

Seems the tone is changing in these comment sections.... where are all the crusaders for Nic? Lol

OMG!! Those are terrible injuries! 🙄

Miu's attorney is so incredibly annoying! She had far more patience with all of his 'correct' garbage than I have just watching.

She did such a great job stifling laughter at dumb questions.

@chris-hu7tm

2 ай бұрын

If you actually watched it you realize that she does that so many times, its not about the questions its her reaction being there on the stand, nervous ticks

The prosecutors are both so morbidly obese it bothers me. I already don't like prosecutors because they're always trying to convict rather than seeking the truth and justice. But I really don't like these prosecutors. Doesn't mean Miu should walk but I'm not convinced that he wasn't acting in self defense. The whole incident is a horrific tragedy and I just don't think throwing Miu in prison is going to doing anything besides compound the tragedy and injustice. But if evidence is presented that could change my mind I'll be open to hearing it.

He told her that there were 7 guys pounding on him and a knife was pulled on him and he turned the guy's wrist and put it in his belly. That's news to me. I think this was self defence. I hope he takes the stand

I can’t stand that she keeps smiling after being asked a question

I wouldn't want to be defence lawyer representing murder. Specially this guy . He could have just walked away like any normal adult . But No ! He had to pick a fight with a teenagers. Life was lost of a young man with the future ahead of him. So sad. To the parents who llost their son Huge Condolences 🙏 This guy needs to go to prison for the rest of his life . Adults should be the example to young kids . He shoild have walked away and not even be near young kids having fun . He just wanted to be bully . He is crazy. Nobody in the right mind would react like that. With a knife stabbing young kids ???