Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. Transcript: lexfridman.com/annie-jacobsen-transcript 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - HiddenLayer: hiddenlayer.com/lex - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Policygenius: policygenius.com/lex - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour 2:13 - Nuclear war 6:57 - Launch procedure 12:36 - Deterrence 16:09 - Tactical nukes 25:35 - Nuclear submarines 28:35 - Nuclear missiles 35:46 - Nuclear football 44:53 - Missile interceptor system 49:10 - North Korea 55:46 - Nuclear war scenarios 1:04:38 - Warmongers 1:09:06 - President's cognitive ability 1:15:19 - Refusing orders 1:23:17 - Russia and Putin 1:28:23 - Cyberattack 1:29:45 - Ground zero of nuclear war 1:34:24 - Surviving nuclear war 1:38:42 - Nuclear winter 1:49:05 - Alien civilizations 1:54:40 - Extrasensory perception 2:08:25 - Area 51 2:12:23 - UFOs and aliens 2:22:51 - Roswell incident 2:29:30 - CIA assassinations 2:48:23 - Navalny 2:50:48 - KGB 2:57:24 - Hitler and the atomic bomb 3:01:27 - War and human nature 3:04:53 - Hope

@secretbassrigs

Ай бұрын

Lex, you're a Commie???? GIVE YOUR WATCH BACK TO JOE ROGAN!! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂

@MrWhite-vr1nq

Ай бұрын

DEAR LEX FRIDMAN ! I hope you will see this comment. If we (I hope you too) want to stop the insane anti-Trumpist propaganda and if we all want the victory of Civilization, I kindly ask you to interview Andrei Illarionov - he is the former first deputy director of the Working Center for Economic Reforms under the Government of Russia (1992-1993 ), head of the analysis and planning group under the Chairman of the Russian Government (1993-1994), economic adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin and confidant (Sherpa) of the Russian President in the G8 (2000-2005). It will be a "bomb", I guarantee you, Lex.

@derekjenkinson5406

Ай бұрын

Thanks lex 🙌 love your work my brother ❤️

@TouYube222

Ай бұрын

Thank you! time stamps are so much more convenient in the comments

@GMrRager

Ай бұрын

Great discussion

She's telling us the entire world and human race is minutes away from annihilation, and everyone in comments saying "I love her voice"

@R4G3FULL

Ай бұрын

It’s very concerning

@sandrawilliams4874

Ай бұрын

Pretty sad. 😂

@vknight7497

Ай бұрын

It definitely epitomizes the human race.

@snowflakemelter7171

Ай бұрын

Well most people knew that already so it's not exactly breaking news.

@vinozarazzi5633

Ай бұрын

People are switching focus from the "substance" to the "form" - because they are so weak minded.

Well this was a lovely uplifting little chat

@suefleming

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@td4637

Ай бұрын

Welcome to the existential nuclear dread of the Cold War. Everyone kinda forgot about it.

@shawnbruce6934

Ай бұрын

LOL.

@Sunny-wq9ue

Ай бұрын

Lol

@sketchandjam

Ай бұрын

lol lifted up right into the cloud.

Episode 420 with Annie Jacobsen is just too much of a sign from the universe to roll one up and enjoy learning

Tried falling asleep listening to this podcast, not the best choice 🤣 Will finish this tomorrow 😂

@CryptoPros1

17 сағат бұрын

Same.. last night I started this and realized what a mistake I made. I laid awake for another 30 mins thinking about nuclear war lol

Horrific subject but so nice to listen to two people who let the other finish their sentences and thoughts. Manners make interviews flow well and easier to absorb.

@BinKillEthical

Ай бұрын

I wish Finkelsteiner and Borreli were on this interview... said no one

@olivierbolton8683

Ай бұрын

true and leaders should be able to do the same...

@judithwake2757

Ай бұрын

It helps straighten out misunderstandings to be polite and to let eachother talk without being interupted too.

@Shmandalf

Ай бұрын

@@BinKillEthicalFunklestain and Borealis

@JP-ho6zc

Ай бұрын

So are you gonna keep playing the STUPID game of giving power, consent, legitimacy, 💵 and weapons to gangsters to dictate how you gonna live and die like a well-trained law obeying slave?? 😂😂

Her voice is amazing.

@hellraiser666666

Ай бұрын

like her skin care? yeah, smokey af - super hot! NOT

@canadianturtle7240

Ай бұрын

her hair is amazing. I don't know what shampoo she uses, but I NEED her hair routine

@thewhitbyphotographer

Ай бұрын

most amazing voice ever

@Doctaphil64

Ай бұрын

She narrated the audiobook version of her books and they're great.

@secretbassrigs

Ай бұрын

You should hear her speak Mandarin! 😂😂😂😂

Such a powerful conversation. I wish this would reach the masses.

@dees9502

24 күн бұрын

The masses are too ignorant and preoccupied shopping and fighting over what color their State is to gain anything from this. Let’s just be content knowing SOME Of us are hearing this.

@MisteryMan2000

22 күн бұрын

I hope it doesn't. The only stuff she got right was the declassified stuff. Everything else is fiction.

@JRLNeal

20 күн бұрын

1.6m have listened so far in just 8 days.

This is intense. Frankly it reminds me of my childhood. I'm 52, so 8 years old in 1980... We lived with an awareness of the perilous situation that existed, and hasn't changed, just below the surface. I remember nuclear drills in Elementary school, and the movie The Day After. Many nightmares... What she said about the situation itself was not revealing to me, but what got my attention was the confirmation that we are closer now than we ever were. Combine that with a societal move away from the awareness that was hammered into my generation and you have a widening gulf between our knowledge of and perception of the importance of the nuclear issue, and the reality on the ground. That gulf in my mind increases further the likelihood that we may end up in a situation where, as we wobble around on our way forward, one wobble will take us too close to the edge. Because we forgot how close the edge is. She is reminding us, and I think that what she is doing is of the utmost importance.

@ChickPeaChannel

15 күн бұрын

I'm 53, and I remember that time, the movie The day after. Put your bed against the window. Go under the stairs. It was drummed in to us. The fear that came from every plane flying overhead. Is it worth the public knowing all this? We are at the mercy of one mad man.

@mackjon3z

13 күн бұрын

I'll be 40 this year & upon hearing

@pete_blackburn

11 күн бұрын

The drills in school. The Soviet threat was real then (at least it felt that way) The berlin wall came down when I was in high school. Then when the USSR broke apart it was really iffy not knowing who had what access to nukes. Then was the calm. I was explaining to my kids because this is a new feeling for them but we grew up with it.

@revmsj

10 күн бұрын

Well I just want to thank you guys for preventing nuclear holocaust by squatting under those desks so often thereby giving my generation a chance to squander this world for a bit. Here’s to parents getting the world all hot n bothered and then projecting their fears and PTSD onto us kids!👍🏾

@revmsj

10 күн бұрын

@@pete_blackburnnot a whole lot has changed. There’s been a period of forced smiles, hand shakes of pageantry, and they adopted western capitalism lite. Make no mistake, they are just as proudly nationalistic, and steeped in their own propaganda as they’ve always been. It would seem now that they just have more money from their brand of capitalism than they might have previously had with which they perhaps can fund more fighting. Also if you put any stock into what Noam Chomsky has to say, refer back to Lex’s interview with him where he insists that the threat from Russia has never been more real than now. At least I think that was Chomsky…🤔

I should not have 420 blazed it for the 420th podcast. This is intense.

@raging100

Ай бұрын

Right there with you brother, lmao.

@TeacherTom1

Ай бұрын

Lex appears to have ignored the significance of this important milestone. Unless you count nuclear war as the ultimate and final blaze-up. A lot of ganja would certainly go up in those mushroom clouds, all those dispensaries... Which American city would have the most THC product in its mushroom cloud do you think? I hope you've recovered from your "420 blazed" experience listening to Annie Jacobsen, although I expect you reconsidered your options soon after posting this comment.

@willswalkingwest7267

Ай бұрын

You went there and I'm glad.

@allusernamestakenlol

Ай бұрын

@@TeacherTom1 World governments are going to nuclear war to get the whole planet high

@Yakovvandordt

Ай бұрын

Brooooo for real😅

For everyone, she narrates her own books on audible

@NuYoRicanPapi

Ай бұрын

I might buy the audio book just to listen to that sultry voice.

@Ishbikes

Ай бұрын

Now that’s how you sleep!

@soundfx68

Ай бұрын

I’ll buy on Audible, where I read all my books recently. Would be nice to read something other than the magnificence of Skippy the beer can AI 😅 Edit, Skippy is an arsehole, but I’d like him on my side.

@samanthamartin2418

Ай бұрын

I have been wondering if she read her own book! I'm getting audible stat!

@TheRainDrop7

Ай бұрын

Is it just audible that she reads her own or can I get it on other platforms?

One of the most down to earth, unpretentious, and superb conversations. To me this is one of the best interviews by Lex. Thank you.

@MisteryMan2000

22 күн бұрын

Too bad most of her info was BS.

@stewpiddonkey4668

21 күн бұрын

You’re welcome.

@dcworld4349

18 күн бұрын

@@MisteryMan2000 Phew that's a relief, the amount of research you have done must be astounding, please share with us some of the knowledge you have accumulated rather than this fear mongering.

@killjoy117007

16 күн бұрын

@@MisteryMan2000whats bs?😂

@MisteryMan2000

16 күн бұрын

@@killjoy117007 Everything that is declassified is pretty accurate, everything else is BS. She is so far off on some of the things she claimed that I actually laughed!

Everyone needs to listen to this. My hope is that it hopefully makes you want to understand those you would call your enemy.

@L1ft0ff

12 күн бұрын

Russia is the aggressor.

I have a feeling that i've just watched a documentary. Explanations are so wide and detailed. Thank you Lex, for another great guest! Peace!

@tistelnilsson

Ай бұрын

1:st answer are so stupidly wrong the rest are not worth any human beings time.

@wrath7879

Ай бұрын

@@ed1658 the whole time i was like "yeah like the US government is telling this chick all their classified nucelar weapons info" lmao

@rarefruit2320

Ай бұрын

If she was speaking with a democrat or republican then it’s all lies anyway. And I hated the voice she used for this interview, I’m not a child and don’t care to be spoken to like a child

Those enamored by Annie’s voice should know that she narrates her own books. I’ve consumed 4 of her collection-all are great, but her narrations make them my top fav audiobooks.

@mc-lb9dk

Ай бұрын

perfect for falling asleep.

@gerrymcneill735

Ай бұрын

Fixations on her voice do her wok and research a disservice.... She is fearless... And undoubtedly brilliant. But add that she narrates her own books and gives interviews like this.... Winner. My favourite research journalist now that the equally brilliant John Pilger has left us. I adored that man. There's an interview of him meeting Donald Feith.....I think he wrote fur Dubya... And Pilger tells him that the USA has been responsible for the over throw of at least 70 Democratically elected governments since the end of WWII. Feith said that's ridiculous...Pilger says to him... No it's not...I got the information from your Congressional library here in Washington.... You want me to show you. Interview ended...🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Pete1987pl

Ай бұрын

Its how I read surprise kill vanish. Or she read it to me. Lol

@Schedule1ne315

Ай бұрын

Not my worst fap

@postalizeMike

Ай бұрын

Best and most useful comment ever

Can listen to Annie all day. Well researched and delivers calculated punches in the horrifying reality we live alongside of everyday but do not see. We strongly hope we never have to see or experience nuclear war. A dear friend in the Air Force helped set the satellite system up to detect missile launch. He could not tell me much about it. I learned more through this interview. My friend’s work makes him a hero to me. So here’s to you Col. John.

The book and PBS version of Command and Control chilled me to the core. The Damascus Incident still brings the people involved to tears. Some great movies to watch on this topic: Fail-Safe, The Bedford Incident, Threads.

Lex you’re just on a real tear with the guests lately. Bravo

@jtrich1975

Ай бұрын

Yea, a real journalist. Not a POS hack like Tucker Carlson.

@chriswright6447

Ай бұрын

One of the best interviews I have ever seen. Sadly, such a tragic subject.

@will201084

Ай бұрын

He's admitting he would defying orders of nuclear strikes and openly saying it is suspect af

@JasonMaly

Ай бұрын

This is CIA propaganda to try and get through to putin on the back of the Tucker - Putin interview

@LowKickMT

Ай бұрын

hes just recycling guests from daddy rogan

If there’s anyone I want to read me bedtime stories it’s this woman. Please tuck me in Annie.

@leddielive

Ай бұрын

Me first, me first 😂🤣😂

@VabellaBeauty

Ай бұрын

Haha 😂

@Brazileiro-

Ай бұрын

Hell yea

@julialarsen

Ай бұрын

Bedtime story of everyone’s death

@Dexthesaga

Ай бұрын

😂

Just finished. Enjoyed that. Excellent interview and flowed very well.

Great episode, had to split it up in two parts but worth every minute.

I hope we get a 2nd interview soon, I could listen to her for days.

@wyldfantasies

Ай бұрын

Danny Jones podcast, like 2 weeks ago.

@seriousdon

Ай бұрын

2 hours 11 minutes 50 seconds and she talks about lobster dinner on our tax money !!!! yeah okay !!!!! what else is she going to talk about? $50,000 for a hammer ?

@pakrm2023

Ай бұрын

Her books are available on Audible and SHE narrates them.

@JP-ho6zc

Ай бұрын

@@seriousdon how about the $1000 toilet seats?? 😂😂 And how many times did you play the STUPID game of VOTING for gangsters to be your masters?? 😂😂

@JP-ho6zc

Ай бұрын

Do you know how to replay the video?? 😂😂

Dear Lex: Of the many, many truly great interviews I've had the pleasure to watch on your podcast over the years , this is arguably the best for a number of different reasons: 1) The content; 2) the interview itself as conducted by you ; 3) AJ who, apart from being a phenomenal storyteller, comes through as an extremely likeable and trustworthy person and 4) as a reminder of how the mind of a real journalist operates...!

@sinisaaru5033

Ай бұрын

What irks me of this one is her not even question the nuclear war rhetoric itself lately, the strategic impact of DEWs and the nonsense about the North Korea threat narrative. WW1 and 2 were managed events and 3 will be too which instantly changes the playbook. All she does is describing a chaotic nuclear exchange which isn't the most likely outcome.

@Jm-wt1fs

Ай бұрын

@@sinisaaru5033a chaotic nuclear exchange seems like the inevitable and only option, in my understanding. It’s just bc of the logic of the escalation chain. Just think about it - if an enemy has thousands of strategic nuclear weapons and can theoretically disable your deterrent with a first strike, they win if you give them the time to do so. If your policy is anything other than massive retaliation, you automatically lose to whoever decides launch the all out strategic strike first. So you can’t play out the usual escalation chain, you have to jump straight to the end or else you’re vulnerable

@brittanygardner

Ай бұрын

@@sinisaaru5033you seem to not grasp the concept of mutually assured destruction and how that plays out. That’s the point- it cannot be “managed”. It’s a bluffing game that quickly “unravels”.

@LowKickMT

Ай бұрын

wtf? he had really brilliant minds on, then this quack and you think its the best content ever? she has provided zero evidence but makes all the claims in the world you really must be into tiktok conspiracy videos too i guess

@sinisaaru5033

Ай бұрын

@@brittanygardner The issue isn't mutual destruction but if the scenario the public perceives as real isn't actually engineered. Imagine for a moment most nations are controlled by a deep state which is then again managed by secret societies. These secret societies use Hegelian dialectic where they create problems so people accept their solution. Problems like FFs/hoaxes/wars to make money, transform nations/societies/political systems/policies, reset monetary systems or just get rid of people. These people could engineer a WW3 with limited nuclear exchange to manipulate the survivors to accept their global totalitarian governance. Look what they've been trying post 2020 with the WHO take over or the great reset rhetoric coming from the WEF. These agendas require system and economical changes of epic proportions.

Lex has the best guests possible, my deepest respect.

Absolutely brilliant, as always, Annie. Look forward to reading the new book. You could put a new one out every week and you still wouldn’t be writing them too fast. Excellent interview as well Lex. Good shit buddy.

This interview should be distributed in every language, on every conceivable channel, internet, television, social media, linked in every newspaper....

@boost7983

Ай бұрын

The betas would cry in the streets. They have no understanding, and would want to disarm. ( Yes, I understand how crazy it all is - M.A.D. ) We'd be at any nuclear power's mercy, if they chose. We would be helpless.

@numbercruncher6242

Ай бұрын

Why? It has too much of a pro US flavor to be of any use. Way too romantic.

@themapleleafforever1526

Ай бұрын

For what reason exactly? What on earth can anyone do about it. These decisions are out of anyone's control. So I am not sure what her messaged is exactly. Fearmongering? Yeah.. no thanks.

@YaknTackle

29 күн бұрын

@@themapleleafforever1526 Exactly!!!

@LordDTwigo

29 күн бұрын

I mean the first hour is just fear mongering that has been talked about for at least 40 years now. "Deeply classified information", literally every teenage boy in America since the 2000s knows this information XD

Why is this not the #1 topic of concern for everyone on earth

@6ftmouse349

26 күн бұрын

Because there’s a 0% chance of it happening. Everyone knows the outcome of nuclear war, nobody that has access to start a nuclear war is going to start a nuclear war.

@heereez

26 күн бұрын

good question

@je7647

26 күн бұрын

@@heereez she is a liar trying to sell her book. nuclear war could be done without any fall out and very little of the radiation poisoning these days still scary and very relevant but it just annoys me how shes like "IN MY BOOK" every two seconds.

@mujde2148

26 күн бұрын

Because you have no control (not even the illusion of control) at all over it... so what to stress you about it?

@CyGMotion

26 күн бұрын

Ignorance is bliss unfortunately

Listened to her when she was on Rogan. Amazing. So happy to see her on this!

Thank you very much @LexFriedman for this absolutely fascinating interview, fascinating guest, excellent questions, profound insights and fascinating conversation... Unbeatable!

Lex…I’ve got to tell you the truth. I love the way that you hold your interviews, but this has to be the best yet. This woman is very well informed. PLEASE bring more guests like this on. 10+ ⭐️

@Cocomixermachine

29 күн бұрын

Absolutely!

This was an absolutely incredible podcast and it blows me away once again that these kind of conversations are free to be a part of.

@KeefeL

24 күн бұрын

To listen to. Hard to be part of this type of deliberation

@MisteryMan2000

22 күн бұрын

As a former USAF nuclear aircrew member, I can 100% verify this woman doesn't know what she's talking about in regards to nuclear weapons, launch times, nuclear warfare, or defense systems. The info she was given is bogus. Some info was accurate, but none of the important stuff was. Think of this as a fiction novel.

@fcarriedo

21 күн бұрын

​@@MisteryMan2000please inform us

@MisteryMan2000

20 күн бұрын

@@fcarriedo No thanks. I like my freedom.

@Lancer_0010

18 күн бұрын

@@MisteryMan2000 figured so. I know a fair amount about nukes and this seemed mighty sus

Once again Lex, amazing conversation! Very interesting talk and very critical and important to discuss. I need to look into her books that she has written. Thank you for what you do Lex and for the conversations you make happen.

insufficiently wise ... beautifully spoken. Dear Lex, you have the best interviews. thank you for sharing! and Thank You to Aniie Jacobsen for presenting some perspectives I had suspected and/or not considered. I think communication and trust are key too, but boy do we have to lear a lot in that regard.... continued blessings!

Ms Jacobsen is one of the smartest people I've ever listened to. The way she can answer all of those questions giving names, departments and dates without any notes is freaking amazing. Her knowledge is absolutely immense!

@johnnyb4269

Ай бұрын

She must of said the word RIGHT 150 times minimum. A bit overkill, no?

@RobertELee420

29 күн бұрын

@@johnnyb4269 would you rather it were Like or Literally?

@ChoiceOfIllusion

29 күн бұрын

This a sarcastic comment, surely? She's a just journalist with absolutely no actual experience, practical or academic in this area. Lex asked a number of questions that she blatantly failed to answer and went off on barely related hyperbolic tangents. She simply didn't know the answer.

@nimmha6708

28 күн бұрын

@@ChoiceOfIllusion and everytime she HAD an answer, it was some public knowledge.. which even made me wonder why Lex even asked them.. This woman is just capitalizing off the war in Ukraine and Putin's constant threats with nukes, which make it a "hot topic"....

@je7647

26 күн бұрын

@@nimmha6708 was this the woman who was talking about "GETTING A TAXI UP A DARK HIGHWAY IN GERMANY TO MEET AN EX NAZI" either was I could not stand this and there is so much misinformation on this nuclear subject she is telling and shes mentioning like inevitable fallout and nuclear winter and the fact shes saying "IN MY BOOK" every 5 seconds its just hard to listen to

We are in the middle of a psyop her voice is hypnotic..

@demodiums7216

Ай бұрын

lol shut up

@TheGabrielPT

Ай бұрын

Absolute milf as well! What a cutie

@bullybar4078

27 күн бұрын

Not sure of a psyop, but definitely hear a malicious and bizarre tone. Equally strange as all of the comments of being lulled by her voice.

@hauscchildt6418

25 күн бұрын

MKUltra was childs-play compared to what we have now 💀

I wish there was another 3hrs of this episode! What a truly fascinating podcast

Literally watched all of the clips, and then doubled back to listen to the whole conversation. Very insightful, and the combination of Lex and Annie's voices was extremely soothing for such a dreadful topic as nuclear war.

Nuclear submarines: "the handmaiden's of the apocalypse " just wow 👌

@rehdwolfe

Ай бұрын

Good name for a band

@mmac4421

Ай бұрын

When yo u see them sail by , in your landscape ( Scotland ) you have no doubt that they are .

What a f'd up way to experience sunday morning at 5:50am

@Cacophony314

Ай бұрын

Omg me too! What a fate.

@davidr9589

Ай бұрын

With truth!

@ghost9-9ghost

Ай бұрын

I'm using this to listen while I sleep at 6am Monday morning.... Luckily, I'm a nocturnal immortal wizard....so hardly matters to me of the Nukes begin a Prowl

@JP-ho6zc

Ай бұрын

Don't you know the biggest nuclear 💣 is the sun that you worship on Sunday?? 😂😂

One of my favorite podcast I've listened to. Insightful

Saving this one for April 20th! 😅

Her ability to recall names and organizations with pinpoint accuracy is mind-bending.

@Decimus-Magnus

Ай бұрын

The ability to recall facts and technical information isn't impressive if you simply use that as a way to scare people with literal sensationalism and draw illogical conclusions. She quite literally lives in fantasy land.

@harrydavey9884

Ай бұрын

What are you talking about? I bet that you can probably recite an encyclopedic knowledge on one particular subject. If she were naming 400 Pokémon, would you be equally impressed? This woman is sensationalising and oversimplifying a lot of things and it's VERY clear she's just found an opportunity to sell a poorly researched book.

@JP-ho6zc

Ай бұрын

But how many times did she play the STUPID game of VOTING for gangsters to be her masters then BEG for CHANGE, or cry like a little baby?? 😂😂

@BoriQ

Ай бұрын

and why u mad about it? at least she's doing something and not commenting to someone else work in the comments section of a video@@harrydavey9884

@theprotagonist8755

Ай бұрын

Umm what?​@@lIlIlIlIlIlIIIIIIII

Thanks for introducing me to Annie Jacobsen. She is a unique journalist and an example for that industry.

Watched the whole thing and couldn’t sleep for several hours….anyone else?😮😮😮

@tistelnilsson

27 күн бұрын

Every edicated in physics stoped in the beginning. Low infomation vorers continued.

@josephinehenry8236

25 күн бұрын

No because the quantum of conscience channel seems to know how reality really works IMO..

@Ryla316

22 күн бұрын

​@@tistelnilssonYou have 3 typos in your comment talking about education and low information lol.

YAY! Anne is back with another podcast! I seriously hope she does audio for her books. Anne, I have Operation PaperClip, and your CIA book! I have no words to describe how thoughtful, patient, smart, intriguing, studious… ( having a hard time with more adjectives to describe this amazing woman!)

If anyone is up for a road trip, I would highly recommend the Titan Missile Museum near Tucson AZ. Turning one of the launch keys is a very odd experience. The engineering is also very interesting.

@PhenoDubs

Ай бұрын

I'll have to add that to my travel list! It sounds pretty cool!

@christhom745

Ай бұрын

I live in Tucson. The museum is near Green Valley. But there is a bunch of silos around here that are fenced off, one a half hour away from where I live.

@5AXISDLOCKHART

Ай бұрын

There are youtube vids of the tour. When I went, our guide had been a enlisted missile maintainer stationed at that site. He was full of insight and humor. Sadly, I believe he past away a year or two ago.@@PhenoDubs

@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098

19 күн бұрын

Most interesting day of my adult life was at Los Alamos. Great museum; awesome books.

I’ve loved Annie’s work for years. So glad you had her on! This was such a great episode, Lex!

@tistelnilsson

27 күн бұрын

Low information conspiracy voter. You must be brainwashed DNC voter with no stem education.

One of the most compelling interviews you must watch is with Annie; I absolutely adore her. It's essential for everyone to view this interview, contemplate deeply on the terrifying reality of nuclear winter, and strive to prevent it at all costs.

Her voice is like sitting next to a fireplace during a blizzard on Christmas Eve next to the love of your life while the grandchildren laugh and play in the next room

@EXITLlFE

Ай бұрын

That's insane to say hahahah. She talks smooth but gotdamn dude 😂😂

@c0smic.Cha0s

Ай бұрын

lol that's quite the description there my guy 🤣🎅

@ChampaBayBeast

Ай бұрын

Just like warm apple pie....

@S-tank_

Ай бұрын

I remember a story about a situation in a sub where they thought missiles were being fired at us and he caught in right in the nick of time before it started nuclear war. Turned out to be glitches on the screen or something

@markb8468

Ай бұрын

....while she whispers sweet nothings like nuclear war....

Oh my word, I love this woman's voice.

@philp7884

Ай бұрын

Listen to her audio books..great

@camlop8635

Ай бұрын

Weird bro

@brandonp8198

Ай бұрын

@@camlop8635 In what conceivable way is that weird?

@Jbd99

Ай бұрын

What, why?

@dylananddaddy1138

Ай бұрын

so does she

I love listening to real, backed up information about stuff like this because it sheds a light on how ignorant we are about how bad things can ACTUALLY get and how quickly they can happen. We should all be very thankful for the way things are because they can be taken away in an instant

Lex does the best long term interviews. Great work Lex!

6minutes? It will take at least 15 minutes to wake Joe up

@brianclark641

Ай бұрын

Joe and his handlers most likely started the war

@osmanmusa6030

Ай бұрын

😂😂

@jonhaddal

Ай бұрын

😂 Funniest comment I've read in 2024 😂

@BeyondTheTwo

Ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

@Alec72HD

Ай бұрын

Joe has nothing to live for. He would not hesitate to destroy all of the Northern hemisphere.

Whats really amazing is watching Lex's caffeine intake over a 3 hour time lapse...

One of Lex's most interesting guest and interviews. Only it was too short. I could listen to Annie Jacobson for more hours talk about what she knows from the hundreds of interviews she has done with the most powerful and inferesting people in America.

Great interview and great guest!!! This episode must be in the Lex Top 5

This is by far the most fantastic interview on this channel. She is amazingly knowledgeable. Her voice is also just wonderful. Congratulations, Lex, for the consecutive remarkable interviews.

@Mr._Infamous

Ай бұрын

They could've at least hit her with some reasonably attractive lighting. Good lord, the lighting guy had one job. Sheeesh

@benjaminkitaura498

Ай бұрын

Because the democrats are so corrupt and afraid of losing power to Donald Trump in the next election they will launch on October 31st to stop the election from happening and destroy the world at the same time. This is the most dangerous scenario ever in modern history.

I could listen to Annie speak all day. She’s super informed, researched, knowledgeable and entertaining. I’m a huge fan of her work and can’t wait to read her new book tomorrow. Lex did a fantastic job of laying back when needed and keeping the flow of conversation moving. Amazing interview!

@rarefruit2320

Ай бұрын

What kinds of things would someone like yourself be looking to buy in the near future? I’m in sales and looking for a new market

@anneteller3128

Ай бұрын

@@rarefruit2320 She has always had access to high level people in intel like other journalists only dream of; makes you wonder if she's one of them. Either way, I'd like to ask if she can tell us who the good guys are and who the bad guys are because there seems to be some bad guys inside the gate doing some not so nice things to the citizens of this country. I'd like to know who is fighting who inside the country, with the funky fires, numerous food production factories on fire, trains with toxic chemicals derailing, viruses, now an entire bridge falling down on a main Interstate corridor on the Eastern seaboard. All the young men of military age flowing over our borders in untold numbers. And, all this is before the bombs are a flying. How about a book answering these questions?

Lex, thank you so very much for having Annie on your podcast. I really wish everyone could hear and ⚠️LISTEN⚠️ to the message she is conveying, she is educated/ informed, articulate, and an absolute professional. 🌏😴🫣

I love her it’s like listening to Sarah Conner in T2 for three hours 😂

@philc494

11 күн бұрын

amazing reference :D

@GlenCooper-sj4lh

7 күн бұрын

She'll be back.

Every time she says "right?" It makes me think of that scene in Commando when Arnold says "WRONG!" and blows the guy away

@wes11bravo

Ай бұрын

"Remember how I said I was going to kill you last?" Yeah! You DID say that! "I lied."

@roystonevans2223

Ай бұрын

​@@wes11bravowhat did you do with Sally? I LET HIM GO 🤣

@LowKickMT

Ай бұрын

i would have loved for lex pushing back more and questioning her anecdotal hearsay evidence myriad

The questions Lex asked to guide the conversation are honestly next-level as an interviewer. The answers were even more interesting and terrifying at the same time. We were hooked from beginning to end

@blessnorthamerica7919

Ай бұрын

Really ? It sounds like a good propaganda

@user-qi4gy9tt1e

Ай бұрын

How I wish it were propaganda. How I wish it were propaganda that Mike Johnson didn't accept money from the Russians to allow them to keep killing Ukrainians and not release their aid. May God have mercy on their souls. My suggestion.to the doubters: BUY.A BOOK AND READ READ AND READ. NOT HEADLINES...A BOOK. AND NOT VIDEOS AND HEADLINES. PLEASE. IT MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE.

@NotAnonymousNo80014

Ай бұрын

Her: How do we know Russian subs are coming close to our shores? People asking for money from congress told us!!! Is everyone falling for this scare tactic lately? Russian subs threat also worked to scare liberal Swedes into joining a militaristic alliance. Sad yet funny.

@zix_zix_zix

Ай бұрын

Lex is obviously a incredibly talented interviewer but his real strength is in science-related interviews!

@will201084

Ай бұрын

Lex is a Russia prop I am sure of it now. Defy nuclear orders and saying it to put that in people's head is treasonous and pathetic

Fascinating. Just bought the book to learn more.

I read Annie Jacobsen’s book on Area 51 and it was absolutely fascinating. I hope to get to some of her other books sometime. She really strikes me as a genuine journalist after the truth and reporting it.

Thank you Lex! One of the best conversations you've ever done. So important, so fascinating. Everyone needs to hear this.

@tistelnilsson

27 күн бұрын

Low information DNC voter?

I grew up in Santa Fe, NM. I worked at LANL briefly but both my parents and my grandfather worked and retired from there. On of my classmates was Oppenheimer’s grandson who is now a film producer. I also have been to the atomic bomb museum as a school kid. Nuclear war is a very real thing. I have been waiting for Annie’s new book to be released. Always have loved her work.

@johnman559

Ай бұрын

👍Hopefully we can develop a counter weapon like a laser that will nullify nuclear weapons👍

@macabo

Ай бұрын

​@@johnman559any counter measure can always be overwhelmed by new tech or numbers. The Strategic Defense Initiative program was a failure and currently with hypersonic cruise missiles and Russia's doomsday torpedo there are too many other vectors to expect a space laser to be able to take out missiles in a long ballistic arc. Also prob one of the first things done in a real war would be nukes in low Earth orbit destroying and disrupting satellites.

@notnuff2264

Ай бұрын

They may not take out our defense systems. In preparation for war, if possible they will have hacked into them. After assuming control they could use our defense to take out our own offense.

@MrX-zz2vk

Ай бұрын

​@macabo Israel's "Iron Dome" missile defense system, while not batting 1000, is still pretty good, and I'd take that over nothing at all. Especially against nukes.

@unclefester831

Ай бұрын

​@@macaboGod forbid a nuclear exchange between the 2 big dogs but if it did happen, do people living far away in the southern hemisphere i.e. Chile, Sub-Saharan Africa, India, Australia, New Zealand have a much higher chance of survival? I mean the nations with the most nukes are all in the north.

Awesome!!!! Wow, that was soooo interesting. I’m buying her book. ❤

Annie is a true gem. Thanks again Lex, for the passion you bring to your craft. Better and better.

Annie‘s research is super interesting!! I read her book Operation Paperclip, which is so well written. She‘s done some amazing research and investigative work, very insightful and really opened my eyes

@GreenHornet1962

Ай бұрын

I'm reading Operation Paperclip right now. It's chilling.

And one demented octogenarian is the person who would decide the faith of the planet in this scenario. That's just... awesome.

@jlynnc9559

Ай бұрын

His puppet👺 master.

@brianmucha6426

Ай бұрын

So...don't vote for Dump. No, he's not quite an octogenarian, but he's absolutely insane.

@user-zy1pc5jw3l

Ай бұрын

Yeah, so much more reassuring with someone who openly talks about retribution upon taking office and establishing a dictatorship "for a period of time" 🙄 0 faith in either candidates with this responsibility.

@JP-ho6zc

Ай бұрын

You think Joey is in charge of the RACKET?? 😂😂

@JP-ho6zc

Ай бұрын

@@brianmucha6426 how about those well-trained law obeying slaves that keep playing the STUPID game of VOTING for gangsters to be their masters then BEG for CHANGE?? 😂😂

I kind of like it when.People go into technical details of what they know about.

Lex you are doing such a great job! Don't let the haters bring down your message of love and empathy. It may be boring to people, but when someone is at their lowest and are shown love that they know they don't deserve, it's life changing. Keep at man!

Not the vibes I wanted for episode 420, but sure... I guess I'll help myself to a heaping scoop of existential terror.

@TeacherTom1

Ай бұрын

It's quite fitting really, everything up in smoke...

@rarefruit2320

Ай бұрын

@@TeacherTom1😂👍

lex looks like he's on the verge of tears during this interview. he's doing incredibly important work.

@zZz0349

Ай бұрын

Yeah you can see the worry and horror in his eyes at certain points. Can’t blame him

@Cometakearidewithme5280

Ай бұрын

We should all be on the verge

@inmysoul7

Ай бұрын

Tell that to a nurse next time. Or a heart surgeon or the workers in the sewers etc.

@805highlander

Ай бұрын

this is the same lady who writes about (and made a bundle off) area 51, get a grip people

@bobmcnabney5934

Ай бұрын

​@@805highlanderhave you read it?

This interview was great, I listened twice already. Her voice is so soothing and breathtaking. She is so knowledgeable and incredible. She has a new fan. I’m gonna look into her books. 📚

@tistelnilsson

27 күн бұрын

I guess you vote DNC

This was an excellent podcast. I bought her book and read it in a single sitting. It was a very engaging and thought-provoking read. One part that stuck with me was when she was discussing how its not just the buildings and structures that are destroyed in a nuclear attack, but everything inside of them as well. Patently obvious, of course, but not something you really spend a lot of time thinking about until its brought up. Museums and all of their displays, libraries, the collected works of humanity... all lost. The museums would be particularly heart breaking because even if humanity recovered and civilization rebounded in 200, 300, 1000 years... there are things in museums that would simply be lost forever. Some extinct species, for example, are identified from a single specimen and would be erased in nuclear fire. It's not just human history that would be erased, but planetary history, biological history... gone.

This is probably my favorite Lex interview yet. She talked about allot of things I'm also interested in. Thanks Lex!

@harrydavey9884

Ай бұрын

The majority of what she did was very dishonest. She'd take technical information to give the appearance of some sort of expertise, then she'd just throw in utter conjecture that she was completely incapable of backing up. This is a woman who's profiting off of your fear and nothing more. I'll give you an analogy of what she's doing. Let's say I spent the next year or my life learning everything I could about cancer, all the facts out there now and the names of all the world's leading cancer experts. Then I decided to postulate based on that, that actually Cancer is about to get worse and wipe out 90% of humanity, And instead of providing any sort of evidence for this, I just throw out the names of many experts and prove that I know lots more than the average person on the topic. This woman is not an expert at all and she doesn't understand psychology even slightly it seems. The nuclear stalemate has remained a stalemate for an obvious reason. Mutually assured destruction. This will NEVER happen. She's selling her book and nothing more.

I could listen to Annie talk about this stuff all day long

@jesus_rojo111

Ай бұрын

You only need a satellite with a lasser to stop nuclear weapons.

@hotrox2150

Ай бұрын

​@@jesus_rojo111 "Maui Strong"...

@bobmcnabney5934

Ай бұрын

She voices her books on audible! They're great!

@edwardkantowicz4707

Ай бұрын

I could listen to Annie read the phone book all day long....

@engjds

Ай бұрын

You sound the life of the party!

I’m surprised to see her pop up. Back in like 2012 I went on vacation to Florida and the place we were staying in had her book Area 51 and I found it so fascinating. I ended up buying it and it’s definitely worth getting.

This isn’t a knock on Annie, but this podcast is great for falling asleep to. Her voice is so relaxing, despite the subject matter…!

Both your voices make for a very pleasing conversation to listen to. Even considering the very grim topics.

@ghost9-9ghost

Ай бұрын

"GRIM" has a bad reputation. .....maybe it's because I came here from a planet of chaos....but I find the Grim, gritty, scream-soaked topics to be comforting in some weird way. Sort of like if you're tired enuf, even an itchy blanket will be worth it.

Just imagine someone who sleeps while listening to podcasts they probably slept to this podcast too to her soothing voice talking about end of humanity😃

@sophielegacy1648

29 күн бұрын

It's my third trial.

@mausmadchenx1245

28 күн бұрын

Exactly my thought.

@susankohi1992

27 күн бұрын

Um...she had something to say. Did it register at all?

@Addiezmom

26 күн бұрын

@@susankohi1992 and this effects you how?

@matthewsutphin7508

26 күн бұрын

​@@sophielegacy1648I'm thinking many triials

This is in my top 3 of all time. Her ability to reel off accurate information is astounding

One of the most important talks and information in a long time! One does not simply begin to imagine what a nuclear war would be like...

This is amazing! Thank you Annie and Lex for this awesome interview!

Wow, Lex. This might be the culmination of your work. A complete long form story; the story of people, their inner and outter conflicts, and the rammifications of their decisions onto themselves, others and those who are of yet to be born. Truly a story that unwinds what it means to be human. To create such massive substrates for war, security, ideology - in the name of love or hate of an ideology - just for the people to have worked on it to come full circle and realize what really matters. To understand the great "Why?" - both within and outward. What it truly means to be human. Love and Communication. Thank you for sharing this to the world, especially, for making it free. And to those who have taken the time to read this comment, thank you.

@Addiezmom

26 күн бұрын

You’re welcome!

Love when you do these type of videos Lex keep up the good work brother!

Great interview - I had to watch it twice

So glad I took the time to listen to this. Thanks for your long form conversations and leading great discussions

Her episodes on JRE are 2 of my favorite out of his 2000 and she wrote some amazing books operation paper clip!

@Love_N_Let_Live

Ай бұрын

Oooh nice. I'm going to have to look for those operation paperclip books.

@Billfish57

Ай бұрын

It's the voice.

@reggie933

Ай бұрын

Yeah that's my favourite I've audiobooked twice.

@dalermehndi4663

Ай бұрын

Her books are so good! I especially loved, "The Pentagon's Brain: An Uncensored History of DARPA". I'm about to start reading "Suprise, Kill, Vanish", and I've heard the Operation Paper Clip book is great too.

@sean9854

Ай бұрын

Why would anyone want to read her books when she doesn’t believe in aliens with all the proof

Just finished her new book. Incredible!!!

This is one of the best episodes on any podcast I have heard in a very long time.

The fact that she knows all of this technical information with all the names of the systems and names of people is quite impressive.

@stephansmuts604

Ай бұрын

It is logical to conclude that she would know all of the information after researching the subject and writing a book on it.

@dmay9352

Ай бұрын

its logical to conclude ur a virgin@@stephansmuts604

@dumbledont247

Ай бұрын

@@stephansmuts604 *books* and yes that doesn't take away from her impressiveness.

@lukesimas

Ай бұрын

Because she is covert CIA

@Stable_Genius

Ай бұрын

​@@lukesimas evidence?

Absolutely amazing! Definitely one of the best podcasts I've ever seen.

"Threads", a film from 1984 written by Barry Hines, should be in all school curriculum. It was in mine and it gave me a lifelong respect and concern over the civilization ending threat we have all lived under since the end of WW2.

That was a nice decompression experience. Thank you for that conversation, much love from "that country"

Everyone needs to see the 1984 movie, "Threads".

@simpsthreedee3818

Ай бұрын

Do a Threads and The Day After double feature.

@perfectfutures

7 күн бұрын

I think you should warn what a terrifying and existential experience that movie is. I’ve never had anything like that from anything else. Important, but certainly not to be taken lightly or confused with a regular film.

I could have listened to this forever!

What a fascinating interview! I truly enjoyed it! Thank you so much!

@42:40 I've watched Lex for years, he's probably my favorite podcaster, i know he's a guy to show a lot of love and emotion but this moment I've never seen him so defeated. You can tell that he's truly listing to Annie and realizing the tragedy of what will unfold if this ever happens. I hope none of us have to live through this horror. I wish we all could put aside our differences of skin color, geographical location, past wrong doings and our ego and just realize were all humans, we have 80 years if were lucky in our lifetime and that most people everywhere around the world just want to have a decent job that pays a livable wage, take a vacation every so often, enjoy laughs with friends and family. It sucks that this is our reality and that I'm so worried about this outcome that my wife and i will never be parents, i would feel so guilty about bringing a child into this world.