Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. Transcript: lexfridman.com/serhii-plokhy-transcript 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Eight Sleep: eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - Shopify: shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - AG1: drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil 1:18 - Collapse of the Soviet Union 17:27 - Origins of Russia and Ukraine 30:30 - Ukrainian nationalism 38:13 - Stepan Bandera 1:07:13 - KGB 1:22:11 - War in Ukraine 1:58:27 - NATO and Russia 2:09:30 - Peace talks 2:23:17 - Ukrainian Army head Valerii Zaluzhnyi 2:29:54 - Power and War 2:40:45 - Holodomor 2:47:17 - Chernobyl 2:57:51 - Nuclear power 3:07:28 - Future of the world

@yuriimakarov4832

Ай бұрын

Very thank full for this guest, I almost lost hope and thought you will invite guests that repeat russian propaganda narrative

@nikan2269

Ай бұрын

Nice follow-up after TC. I know this is a topic you are passionate about based on past discussions and posts. Thank you for sharing this content.🤙🏼

@reggiesilver384

Ай бұрын

ty Lex gg wp gl hf

@metju30

Ай бұрын

Totally delusional in his predictions

@FaerieSidhe

Ай бұрын

When is the Destiny Finkelstein debate going to be available? Is it a secret??????

Whoever was doing the subtitles kept writing "Kazakhs" whenever he said "Cossacks". There's a big difference between the two groups.

@sacramentofwilderness6656

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I've burst into laughing when seeing this.

@BoolatGuzairov

Ай бұрын

Not for those guys. We are all barbarians for them.

@sherrillwhately7586

Ай бұрын

Ukrainians transliteration of Cossack is Kozak.

@Yablonskiis

Ай бұрын

"Kazakh" is a citizen of Kazakhstan, have nothing to do with Cossacks

@sherrillwhately7586

Ай бұрын

@@Yablonskiis Correct. Kazakhs come from Kazakhstan. Kozaks from Ukraine. I’m afraid I might get the plural ending wrong, probably Kozaki.

Lex, I don't know how often you read your comments but listening to your podcasts with political thinkers and historians has done a lot for me. I started college at 16 and have delayed my graduation over and over again because I couldn't figure out what I wanted to do. I majored in Political Science. The amount of knowledge that I had gained from these podcasts had inspired me to open up a few books and it reignited my interest in my field, making me happy to finally decide to make a career out of this. Thank you

@kurtdixon4700

Ай бұрын

Wow! That is very inspiring!

@muhammadhasanin8413

Ай бұрын

Good speed Michael. It’s never delayed, you’re only on time brother. Good luck in your endeavors

@jeffjames3111

Ай бұрын

Amazing. Thanks.

@TheTarotDJ333

Ай бұрын

What a cool comment for Lex to get! 🌟 Good luck, Michael, with whatever you decide to do! Knowledge is the key to freedom!✨️

@TheTarotDJ333

Ай бұрын

LEX IS HOT!!!! 🔥🔥🔥

There are mistakes in the subtitles. When Serhii Plokhy talks about Cossacks, in the subtitles we see "Kazakhs".

@Andrey-il8rh

Ай бұрын

Maybe because it's autogenerated?

@ilkayylmaz2354

Ай бұрын

@@Andrey-il8rh There are two subtitle options: 1. English - Default 2. English (auto-generated). I'm talking about the first one. I haven't even looked at the second one.

@Gargoiling

Ай бұрын

I prefer "Qazaqs". "Kazakh" reflects Russian pronunciation and, as you know, this is a Turkic language, no more closely related to Russian than to English. If we have Türkiye, why not Qazaqstan?

@ilkayylmaz2354

Ай бұрын

@@Gargoiling We shouldn't have Türkiye in English at all. The letter "ü" is not even part of the English alphabet. Should we call Germany "Deutschland", Spain "España" or Albania "Shqipëria"? That's ridiculous.

@joanlivingston686

Ай бұрын

The captions are done by AI.

One minor correction (at 18:44): "Once we had Czechoslovaks, now we have Czechs and Slovaks." Sorry for going nitpicky, but compared to the others mentioned, it's a bit misleading. Slovaks, Moravians and Czechs (going east-to-west) can technically be taken as three stages of settling in one direction of the slavic diaspora. But Czechoslovakia and the idea of a joint nation is an invention of the early 20th Century, made out of sheer convenience to make a better case for RE-establishing a country after the breakup of Austro-Hungaria. Sadly enough, the wider English culture remains oblivious to anything that went on between the German and Russian lands prior to Napoleon winning at Austerlitz. Like... Czechs having a fairly singificant presence in Europe for centuries as a nation and kingdom (until the 1620 Battle of White Mountain), even having one of their major monarchs as the Holy Roman Emperor (Charles IV, recently elevated from virtually-unknown to somewhat-known worldwide thanks to the game Kingdom Come: Deliverance). Czechs and Slovaks exist as separate nations/ethnics/... since pre-1000AD and in the case of Czechs, the oldest written local sources go down to the 13th Century. Differences between Czechs and Moravians are barely worth mentioning, as both groups always maintained close ties. But Slovaks were largely separated from much of their western kin most of the time, mostly due to geographic and political reasons. The Czechoslovak get-together-again after WW1 was an idealistic political stunt that looked great on paper back then, but was doomed to fail in the long run in any case. This would be worth a whole socio-economic lecture. Also, the thing about "Bohemia" and "Bohemians" is a sad historical misnomer worthy of an entire lecture too.

@unreliablenarrator6649

Ай бұрын

See my comment for a correction of a rediculously inaccurate board statement he makes. I'll suggest he is not an expert on East Asian history and should probably say less until he learns more.

@RobertBalejik

Ай бұрын

there was a common empire "great moravia" in 9-10th century, the split happened when Magyar came then it became Bohemia and Hungary

@cioccolateriaveneziana

Ай бұрын

But Great Moravia wasn't a "national state", it was simply an early medieval state-like formation of some slavic tribes. And the tribe that later gave name to the Czech nation, the ancient Czechs, was just one peripheral tribe dependent on the prince of Moravia. @@RobertBalejik

@PKowalski2009

Ай бұрын

I don't know whether 1,000 years ago Czechs were ethnically different from Poles or Slovaks; whether countries didn't distinguish themselves earlier than nations. But you are right -- talking about the ancient past using the word "Czechoslovakian" is a biting mistake here.

@yurilytviak9066

Ай бұрын

This is true , but I understood Plokhy as explaining how matters looked or was described in the west , especially america…

You need to invite Timothy Snyder too.

@manlikederek925

Ай бұрын

I think he's done Lex's podcast before

@Abby-np5rr

Ай бұрын

He is completely out of touch

@andreme7326

Ай бұрын

@@Abby-np5rr he's an expert on the subject.

@ageekay3879

Ай бұрын

Please no 😂

@SergiyJust

Ай бұрын

Would be good but Lex probably would afraid to. As Timothy is very open & sincere about nature of russians 😊

Please lex, have more historians. Thanks for the conversations

@wishIKnewHowToLove

Ай бұрын

this "historian" is rewriting history...

@Petro250

Ай бұрын

@@wishIKnewHowToLoveprove it, he had some minor inaccuracies but for the most part was correct objectively

@iamthereforeistrive9392

Ай бұрын

Historians...who is ordering them the narrative? I no longer know who to trust. I do not even know is having a historian from the opposite side would help. Maybe a historian of the C.I.A. (not their own), or some kind of an "Economic Assassin" guest would help see better how the relationships BTW close nations were historically muddled with.

@salimmazariboufares3118

Ай бұрын

This one is not a historian, is a propagandist.

@liamriley9816

Ай бұрын

“Historians”

Пан Сергій - фаховий та поважний вчений. На питання "в чому сенс вторгнення в 2022?" майстерно почав з "коли війна почалась в 2014..." Brilliantly

@AvatarSD

23 күн бұрын

Так, хоча в багатьох аспектах, по типу: чому Ярослав Мудрий почав штампувати гривну, він не розповів)

@ufukpolat3480

16 күн бұрын

He also skillfully ignored the Maidan Coup, the right wing violence and US state department support leading up to it. What a clown is this guy that he never mentions the role of Victoria Nuland, as if she hasn't been exposed meddling in Ukrainian affairs. Ukraine got what it deserved because of people like Serhii.

@irina573

16 күн бұрын

@@ufukpolat3480 the ears of the Kremlin stick out from under your hat. hello mr major of russion FSB 😄🤡

@kanycmun

13 күн бұрын

@@irina573of course I see how are you dumb. Just see how much people was at maidan, and how much was at full Ukraine. Too close argument my boy

@tarasshevchenko8917

7 күн бұрын

⁠@@irina573Yet he’s not wrong. There has been meddling way before 2014. If there is a counter argument, it would be nice to have a constructive discussion. Дякую.

Better later then never: 1st Ukrainian voice on this podcast for last 2 years

@cookml

28 күн бұрын

How many Russians voices have we heard?

@planet-karma

26 күн бұрын

​@@cookml Tucker Carlson, John Meirsheimer, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Oliver Stone - among others. He gives a stage to many Americans who parrot Russian propaganda - knowingly or not. Hearing from Ukrainians at least allows people to hear the side of the country being invaded - and constantly disparaged by his guests.

@Grek1574

24 күн бұрын

@@cookmlTaker😂

@andrewdemchyshyn6599

23 күн бұрын

@@cookml I mean every podcast have “russian” voice

@andrewdemchyshyn6599

23 күн бұрын

@@cookml jokes aside, every other guest that talk on topic of geopolitics is russian simp or carrying pro russian views on russia war on Ukraine. There were Guests without pro russian views - you can even say they hold anti russian but American views, not Ukrainian view. The difference is that you can say to anti russian American “it is fake, it is propaganda, you believe media too much” when you discuss russian war, but you cant say it that easily to Ukrainians, they know their facts about invasion directly from their relatives and friends also they understand russian language and that’s why understand more clearly what russians say and what their goal is.

11:52 Serhii mentions that "level of russification is much higher" in the post soviet state of Russia. The closed captions says 'unification' rather than 'russification.' This mistranslation/ failure at writing the correct words used is something that should be corrected, as the meaning conveyed by those two terms is strikingly different for everyone who is not perhaps Russian.....

@zetristan4525

Ай бұрын

You could not have been pleased when it automatically transcribed you as Wank a witch

@yuriywankiewicz6689

Ай бұрын

@@zetristan4525 funny

@zetristan4525

Ай бұрын

​@@yuriywankiewicz6689And wouldn't Plokhy be translated as Bads? 😜If not, my bad...

@daniel8728

29 күн бұрын

And the Ukrainization of Russians, Hungarians, Poles, Romanians, and others is just dandy! Hypocrisy!

@yuriywankiewicz6689

29 күн бұрын

@@daniel8728 What was done in Ukrainianization? All I know is Ukraine trying to make Ukranian the only official language, anything else? Cause if not then there's no comparison here.

Started watching this, 30 mins in I paused, read several works by, or about Pushkin, Tolstoy, Trotsky, Dostoevsky, and others. Now I am coming back to finish watching the rest of the video, with some context. Thanks Mr Friedman...

I also liked Timothy Snider’s work of Ukrainian history. Such a great work. With it’s dark and bright sides revealed. Thank you Lex for interesting interview ❤

@ruslankbr5243

25 күн бұрын

Did Snider explain why Azov uses Nazis symbols of Wolfsangel and Black Sun?

@Grek1574

24 күн бұрын

@@ruslankbr5243I think for the same reason that russian “Rusich” battalion call them self a nazi battalion.

@Kirill-bi4gh

23 күн бұрын

@@ruslankbr5243 don't pay attention to that. it's just most pure Russian propaganda

@Kirill-bi4gh

23 күн бұрын

Better take a look at one of the founders of the Wagner PMC (Dmitry Utkin). He had tatoos with Nazi symbols on his chest.. That's insane.

@ruslankbr5243

23 күн бұрын

@@Kirill-bi4gh really but I did deep research and this is pure truth. I can explain you their roots and symbols)

Lex, this is a great interview! Have you considered mediating a debate between Plokhy and Mearsheimer, whose theories go unchallenged?

@okplay9446

Ай бұрын

Great idea

@renatobelic

20 күн бұрын

Mearsheimer would crash his claims.For instance,this guy somehow conclude that for Putin the collapse of SSSR was bigger tragedy than loss of man during the ww2. So, Mearsheimer would have probably tell him that you can't compare loss of life kind of tragedy with the term "GEOPOLITICAL catastrophe"!Putin said it very clear for the most of people,but this guy is not one of them.If you want to learn from guy who can't comprehend a simple sentence,go on.This kind of people are not seeking the truth,they already decided what it looks like and then they looking for pretext for it.

@saturn_in_blue

19 күн бұрын

Mearshiemer is a coward, fraud and compulsive liar. He would never agree to an interview with someone who could expose his lies.

@ldhorricks

15 күн бұрын

@@renatobelic what on earth are you talking about?

@renatobelic

15 күн бұрын

@@ldhorricks Putin has described the collapse of Soviet Union as a "largest GEOPOLITICAL catastrophe of the century".He did not describe it as a largest human tragedy,or human loss.If he would do that,then this so-called historian could claim that for Putin "the biggest tragedy is not the loss of life,the biggest tragedy is the loss of the great power..."Do you understand now,or should I draw it to you?

Would love to see you interview Zelensky (and ask all the hard questions I personally want to hear answered as a Ukrainian) !

@dvegule920

Ай бұрын

No one want to listen to Selensky anymore. What would he say what he didn't say until now? He is constantly lying. What value do his words have? For change he should try to work for peace.

@R6SiegeTank

Ай бұрын

@@dvegule920 You surely mean Putin, right?

@MinimaAmoralia

Ай бұрын

@@dvegule920 you made a couple mistakes in the word Putin mate

@waki_resigns

Ай бұрын

Arestovych is far more available than Zelensky. Sadly I can imagine Melnyk being far more eager... it would be a lot of crap throwing on Europe...

@waki_resigns

Ай бұрын

@@dvegule920 There are different levels in hell. And if you speak about the compartment for liars, Zelensky is out of the league compared to Russian officials, all the Islamists and most Arab leaders, Chinese, North Koreans. And then have Trump MAGA camp and the previous guests of Lex: Oliver Stone and Tucker Carlson. So no... get a bit less deluded Sir...

This episode is a special one truly considering what is going on in the world right now. Also, I'm Lithuanian so I'm especially grateful for this one, Lex. Thank you Lex and Mr. Serhii Plokhy!

@valuerc2664

Ай бұрын

his name is Sergey, not Serhii

@LyubomyrSemkiv

Ай бұрын

@@valuerc2664why you think so?

@JustAsPlanned1

Ай бұрын

@@valuerc2664 It's Serhii or Serhiy. He's Ukrainian. That's how it's pronounced.

@Marmur21

Ай бұрын

@@valuerc2664 No, it's Serhii. Just like Zelensky's name isn't Vladimir but Volodymyr. Slavic names are written and pronounced differently in different Slavic languages.

@PUARockstar

Ай бұрын

@@Marmur21 btw, the original name is Volodymer (the Great), the one that brought the Christianity to Rus.

from 2:43:00-2:47:00 in this interview: I was taken with S.P.'s way of expressing a very wise observation. Thanks, Lex, for once again helping us to understand the issues of the day by interviewing some of the most thoughtful folk on these topics.

On a visit to Soviet Kiev in 1981, with a friend with relatives there, it was still apparent that Ukrainians were being spied upon. In fact our Intourist guides were particularly interested in my friend, whose name ended in "-enko", an Ukrainian surname, and were very inquisitive about our movements on the days when we did not take part on official visits or outings with the tour group. They were also rather inquisitive during our stays in Leningrad and Moscow, asking me, with a few months of evening school Russian lessons, a lot of questions about my friend, who spoke rather more Russian than I did.

@user-wb2bu8br7g

Ай бұрын

Konstantin Ustinovich Chernenko is a Soviet party and statesman. General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, perhaps he was just looking for his relatives?

@PatriotParty

Ай бұрын

Maybe you felt like that because you are a westerner in Soviet Russia and you have a friend there in a time where neither sides governments trusted eachother. . . Real spies don't have "spy jobs." They integrate with the community they are placed in and earn people's trust so they can get Intel from them. For context I wasn't even born then and I'm purely speculating that this could have partly something to do with it. I did serve in the US military though and I worked in intel.

My great grandmother was from Nova Lesna, Slovakia so I am eager to hear this episode and learn more about that time. Many thanks

@standad7541

Ай бұрын

Doporučuju Snyderovi lekce na yt.

@PRINCIPijalan

Ай бұрын

After listening this western version of the history you need to listen the eastern version, and the truth is somewhere in the middle.

@oleh_1337

Ай бұрын

@@PRINCIPijalan you mean the KGB version?

@MYOB2023

Ай бұрын

@@standad7541 Timothy Snyder? I will look into it! Thanks!

@MYOB2023

Ай бұрын

@@PRINCIPijalan Any suggestions on ones you find more accurate?

I am a Canadian with mixed Russian-Ukrainian ethnic background. Therefore the blunder in Canadian Parliament concerns me directly. It is so good to see that Dr. Plokhy is given a floor to lay out his views. I congratulate Lex on making it happen, Lex’s interview style is excellent for seeking the truth. In order to have a 3D view of a complex subject, one must be able to view it from several perspectives. In the last 10 to 15 years there has been a lot of academic research in Canada, USA, Sweden, Germany, Poland that was able to use the previously inaccessible archives on the difficult subject of nationalism in interwar, WW2 and post-WW2 period. There is also research on the role of Ukrainian extreme nationalists and far-right nationalists in the last few decades. I would encourage those who want to better understand the subject to become familiar with the works of those researcher, some which are given below. It is a pity that the OUN(b)’s own involvement in atrocities against Poles, Jews, Ukrainians and Russians is not given sufficient attention. Focusing exclusively on collaboration with German Nazis does not address heads-on the fascist ideology of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalist Bandera’s faction known as OUN(b) by it Ukrainian acronym. The fact that OUN(b) fought, as they claim, for Ukrainian independence does not absolve them from either collaboration with German Nazis nor their own atrocities. Similarly, the fact that Stalin collaborated with the Nazi Germany does not absolve OUN(b) actions and those persons involved in them. John-Paul Himka Professor Emeritus, University of Alberta, Canada. He is a Canadian, an ethnic Ukrainian who believes it is critical to face the difficult history heads-on, rather than ignoring, cherry-picking or worse yet, whitewashing it. This is what allows one to separate wheat from the chaff and tell the good from the evil. He considers that heroization of OUN(b) and whitewashing their atrocities is a bland spot in the collective memory of the Ukrainian diaspora. This is in fact the root cause of the blunder of the Canadian Parliament giving a standing ovation to Yaroslav Hunka, a SS Galizien Nazi member, rather than some inexplicable mix-up which the Government officials cite. www.academia.edu/104655067/War_Criminality_A_Blank_Spot_in_the_Collective_Memory_of_the_Ukrainian_Diaspora Chrystia Freedland, Deputy Prime Minister was present in the Parliament and she clapped to Hunka enthusiastically. She is fluent in Ukrainian and Russian and spent a significant amount of time in Ukraine and Russia. She cannot plausibly claim ignorance of the subject of the involvement of Ukrainian nationalists and their atrocities during WW2 in inter- and post-war periods against Poles, Jews, Ukrainians and Russians. Her grandfather Michael Chomiak was the editor of Krakowski Visti, a Ukrainian Nationalistic newspaper in WW2 period that collaborated with Nazis and published antisemitic material and promoted Galizien SS Division. Chrystia Freeland must be well aware of John-Paul Himka research, who is, in fact, her uncle and son-in-law of Michael Chomiak. Freeland is actually acknowledged by Himka for helping to get some details rights in one of John-Paul Himka’s earlier papers. Skillful propaganda will certainly use some true facts, and the mere use of them by propaganda does not render them false. To effectively respond to propaganda it is essential to be able to handle the difficult truth heads-on, rather than brushing it away by saying “it is propaganda”. Silencing or ignoring those who point to the difficult truth does a disservice to the truth. So far, Canadian Government was unable to handle the truth on the difficult subject of the past Nazi war criminal. Anders Per Rudling, associate professor at the Lund University in Sweden. His research included Ukrainian Nationalism interwar, WW2 and post-WW2 period. Also - the Ukrainian Nationalism in Canada and whitewashing OUN (b) history in post-WW2 period. He authored many academic papers, as well as articles in the press on the subject. Below is one of the most recent ones. Attempts were made on to silence him and his research. Rudling, P. A. (2022). The Far-Right Ukrainian Diaspora's Policing of History. In N. Mörner (Ed.), The Many Faces of the Far Right in the Post-Communist Space: A Comparative Study on Far-Right Movements and Identity in the Region (pp. 42-60). sh.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1640388/FULLTEXT01.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1SzqDH53e9ffiPJIhYQ__jKYzlNRtV3xzFuomlz9nrw3eqz8SuWKh_SPU#page=42 Rudling, P. A., & McBride, J. (2024). By opening up the archives, Canada can finally address its past with Nazi war criminals. The Globe and Mail. www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-by-opening-up-the-archives-canada-can-finally-address-its-past-with/#comments Grzegorz Rossoliński-Liebe, Research Associate and Lecturer Friedrich-Meinecke-Institut in Germany. His PhD thesis was on Stepan Bandera. Here is an article he wrote on the subject: www.academia.edu/9780848/Stepan_Bandera_The_Life_and_Afterlife_of_a_Ukrainian_Nationalist_Fascism_Genocide_and_Cult_Stuttgart_Ibidem_Press_2014_ Ivan Katchanovsky, professor at the University of Ottawa www.academia.edu/41023574/The_Far_Right_the_Euromaidan_and_the_Maidan_Massacre_in_Ukraine

@valuerc2664

Ай бұрын

excelent coment

@niall0006

Ай бұрын

Zelensky must be acutely aware of the history and he was also enthusiastically applauding.

@AlexanderSeven

Ай бұрын

I stopped watching after he tried to whitewash Bandera saying "oh, Stalin also was cooperating with nazis", somehow forgetting that there was no nazi ideology in Soviet Union, and all cooperation was in fact trying to direct Hitler away from USSR while Soviets where preparing for inevitable war, and Bandera was just a terrorist who hated Jews, Poles, Russians and was killing anybody with different political views on future Ukraine.

@jossiesh7649

Ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment.

@sylviaowega3839

Ай бұрын

Now is it possible that some of those Ukrainians that joined the German SS army during WWII for the sake of fighting against Russia, or an attempt to escape an imminent death, as opposed to supporting the Nazi cause? Note that I will always stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦 and Israel 🇮🇱.

Very nice overview of the historical landscape around Ukraine. Like the way Serhii tells history, it's not boring at all. Read one of his books, worth reading

The "Cossacks" are wrongly transcribed in the subtitles as "Kazakhs". These are two very different things. Please correct it.

As a Ukrainian I'd like to note a thing about languages. Ukrainian is really close to Belarusian and I've heard conversations where two people would speak their native languages and it was easily comprehensive. As far as I know russians have troubles comprehending both Ukrainian and Belarusian languages due to very different vocabulary and very distinct phonetics.

@cioccolateriaveneziana

Ай бұрын

Thanks for confirming my observation.

@PUARockstar

Ай бұрын

As another Ukrainian who understands Belarusian nearly perfectly in all forms (despite never learning it), can confirm it. Also, many Belarusians also understand me in Ukrainian without much trouble at all.

@OverwatchUA

Ай бұрын

Yep, can confirm. I can comprehend Belarussian without too much trouble. My Belarussian friend can easily understand me too, however the tragedy is that he won't speak Belarussian to me... drumroll... because he doesn't know his own language good enough to speak it! I knew about the russification of Belarus, but when he told me in details the extent to which it happened in the 90s and 2000s, I was completely blown away.

@user-xt3sd5kf5c

19 күн бұрын

Its simmilar to russian i can speak russian i learnd in my teens but never learnd ukranian, i understand ukranian easy

@olgaltey3278

5 күн бұрын

Russians understand Ukrainian perfectly. And it depends on what form of Ukrainian you mentioned, I am Ukrainian and understand Western Ukrainian with big difficulties, but Polish would not have problems, Linguistically, all 3 language: Russian, Ukrainian and Belorussian s belong to 1 group; it would be strange if countries had borders that were not connected

Great interview Lex, very good to see more intelligent people on your podcast! Mr. Plokhy shed so much light on Russia-Ukraine conflict very interesting conversation and I loved the quote in the end!

Thank you both for a truly worthwhile 3+ hours, previously I had a rather sketchy knowledge (very sketch)y!) of Ukrainian history, I now feel I might be in a position to learn a lot more - re-read Bloodlands, listen to your program once again, buy a book or two of the professor’s books.

By far, the best interviews (IMHO) are the ones with historians. Mindbenders all!

Lex always gets the best guests. I respect his interview style and his intellect, he’s not an ideologue.

@ds6914

Ай бұрын

I think he secretly supports Russia

@larynOneka8080

Ай бұрын

@@ds6914 Lex is from Russia.

@JustAsPlanned1

Ай бұрын

@@ds6914 I thought so too until he called Zelensky a hero.

@lukebruce5234

Ай бұрын

@@ds6914 I think he is extremely anti Russian and pro Western to the point of it being funny.

@johnchristopher3032

Ай бұрын

​@lukebruce5234 Once you've lived in each, the choice is easy. Remember, Lexs people are Ukrainian, too.

It’s so important to hear more Ukrainian voices on platforms like Lex’s to connect more to the ongoing war and the people in it.

@IgorSinitsky

Ай бұрын

I can say a lot about war in Ukraine as I live in Kyiv and lived in Russia, Im also half Russian half Rkrainian but Lex will never invite me because he in cherrypicking his guests and leaning to pro-russian anti-west MAGA-like propaganda

@Smokereca

Ай бұрын

are you joking? There is no other point to hear then the ukrainian and western. It would be an achievement if in mainstream media they start to let the other side talk and be heard.

@ssuuppeerrbbooyy

Ай бұрын

@@Smokereca What?

@gugugaga1233

Ай бұрын

they are n&zi's lol.

@ssuuppeerrbbooyy

Ай бұрын

@@gugugaga1233 you mean russian neo nazis like Alexei Milchakov?

When professor says “we should do what our predecessors did in the Cold War” what does he mean? He was in the Soviet Union at a time, studying in a University in Moscow. Who is “we” in this case and who are his “predecessors”?

@johnlyndonescario419

Ай бұрын

Imagine American historians (many, if not all) aren't guided by ideology too lol.

@amotriuc

19 күн бұрын

we prob current generation, predecessors the generation during Cold War, both sided.

Wow, Lex. It took me three days to get through the whole thing. Boy was it worth it. This was a really good interview! Thanks.

@georgeharding7949

Ай бұрын

the guest is 100% biased though... talkinh about russia disintegrating, in his dreams!

@MrJayrodge

Ай бұрын

Well, the guest was talking about the trend across the arc of history. What has been happening to all empires for the past several hundred years. The reasoning is that, as population grows, governments tend to have an increasing problem with maintaining a single national identity. Then things tend to break apart. The same thing may be happening in the United States right now. Without a cohesive vision and identity you are not one people. And, honestly I can't imagine a leader that could unite this mess we're in.

@iamthereforeistrive9392

Ай бұрын

​@@MrJayrodgeinteresting point of view. I agree with it. However, the guest's bias felt strong. I can forgive him-he is a Ukrainian.

@elenacrudge5815

Ай бұрын

@@iamthereforeistrive9392 been a Ukrainian is not an excuse for the gross total lies. Not a single answer was objective. Yak

@darkknight9461

Ай бұрын

​@@elenacrudge5815What did he say that is totally biased?

Thank you for this incredible interview. Thank you Lex for doing this.

Genius guest Lex. Love the way you draw the info out.

Thank you for finally interviewing someone who is not obviously pro-Russian when it comes to this war.

Thanks, Lex, for the awesome podcast episode, especially in these uncertain times. The guest was really inspiring, and I learned a lot about the nearby Slavic regions from the impressive historical insights shared.

@mrblack5554

Ай бұрын

This historian is very biased

Would be lovely for Lex to facilitate discussion between Mearsheimer (or someone else) and this professor. I feel like both have some holes in their line of argumentation and it would enrich us the listeners even more 😉

@Dimka2012Bo

Ай бұрын

I asked Sergii about Mearsheimer he gave a good answer

@sedalia9356

Ай бұрын

Mearsheimer has holes in his heart and his head. Absolutely closed-minded person who will never deviate from his ideology.

@Dimka2012Bo

Ай бұрын

I met with Sergii few months ago, his point is that Mearsheimer thinks within a specific framework, a very logical - western realpolitik and doesn’t see the Russian angle to it.

@jjreddick377

Ай бұрын

Mearsheimer isn’t a historian. He’s a political “scientist “ who engages in bullshit and lies.

@paulgiesbrecht955

Ай бұрын

I stopped listening to mearshimer as soon as he said that he dosnt belive theres any actors more powerful then the state 🤷‍♂️ that takes alot of history out of his view 🤣

Nice to know Harvard can still offer some quality.

@salimmazariboufares3118

Ай бұрын

You call that quality? no it is not, it is not even history, it is just narratives

@bollox679

Ай бұрын

​@salimmazariboufares3118 Harvard pushing its BS geopolitical agenda a 💯 PROPAGANDA SHILL and LEX just ran with it, defending the SS NAZI in Canadian government

@ddd7386

Ай бұрын

​@@salimmazariboufares3118it's a history. Probably you love Russian fairy tailes, but here we see a real history

@colgates.

Ай бұрын

@@ddd7386 Probably you love Ukranian fairy tailes))) How can this be objective? This professor is Ukrainian, he cannot speak impartially. Then it was possible to invite a historian from Russia to this meeting to make it more honest

@ddd7386

Ай бұрын

@@colgates. You should criticize arguments, not people. Your concerns about the nationality of the professor indicate that you don't have any logical counterarguments.

I really appreciated this. Thank you - I have subscribed and look forward to listening to other podcasts.

Lex, when the full scale invasion of Ukraine started I was finishing my philosophy undergrad at Columbia University. Being a Marine Corps veteran I decided to volunteer and headed to Ukraine (first time there with no ties to the country) during my time there I got to emerge myself into the culture, the people, the history, the sorrows, pains, loses, and victories. I went in part (to the extent that we can understand a segment of why we do what we do) for the love of what the Ukrainian people were doing (and not out of hate for Russia). Just wanted to thank you for being the voice of reason and knowledge. I listened to your interview with Tucker Carlson (and many other referring to this war) and your ability to listen to and acknowledge multiple perspectives is extremely refreshing. Keep doing such an amazing job. May you continue to spark brilliant discussions around the world. P.S. would love you to interview the president of El Salvador, Nayib Armado. It would be a fascinating podcast

@dvegule920

Ай бұрын

Sy Hersh, Apr. 5, 2023; The Nord Stream Ghost Ship, The false details in the CIA´s cover story: America’s Central Intelligence Agency is constantly running covert operations around the world, and all must have a cover story in case things go badly, as they often do. It is just as important to have an explanation when things go well, as they did in the Baltic Sea last fall. Within weeks of my report that Joe Biden ordered the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines, the agency produced a cover story and found willing takers in the New YorkTimes and two major German publications. Sy Hersh, Jun 15, 2023 Partners In Doomsday, As Ukraine begins a counter-offensive and Biden´s hawks look on, new rhetoric out of Russia points a revival of the nuclear threat Putin should rightly be condemned for his decision to tumble Europe into its most violent and destructive war since the Balkan wars of the 1990s. But those at the top in the White House must answer for their willingness to let an obviously tense situation lead into war when, perhaps, an unambiguous guarantee that Ukraine would not be permitted to join NATO could have kept the peace. Sorry, did you fought for that? Did you hear something about Gonzalo Lira who died in Ukrainian prison without medical help? A USA citizen? Who ask you to "help"? In a foreign country???

@TheMrNomadus

Ай бұрын

There is nothing proud in being a mercenary lmao.

@matsemillian

Ай бұрын

«Fullscale invasion» lmfao cmon

@livingtribunal4110

Ай бұрын

Idiot. On every level.

@JustAsPlanned1

Ай бұрын

@@TheMrNomadus Ukraine pays foreigners same money they pay their own soldiers. A very small wage by western standards. The only people who go there are volunteers, they own send property to fund themselves. Just like the Westerners who went to Spanish Civil War. Hemingway and Orwell.

Dr Fridman, thank you for doing what you do, I so enjoy your analysis and general conversation with people of all backgrounds

Thank you Lex and Serhil Plokhy for the historical review.

Please, invite Vasiliy Topolev aka Vatoadmin. He knows much about history too and he'll tell, where Sergiy is wrong

Finland is not same as Ukraine from Putins point of view

@cioccolateriaveneziana

Ай бұрын

Well, not now when it's in the NATO, thankfully.

@WangMingGe

Ай бұрын

Yet the Russians tried repeatedly to take it over, and did succeed in seizing some of its territory.

@nyalarhotep

Ай бұрын

It never was, since `45. Finns were fooled into NATO and out of neutrality. And actually, only NOW they are in potential danger.@@cioccolateriaveneziana

@clintloranrand951

18 күн бұрын

??? Finland has never been any Russian land as there are no Russians. Okraine (not Ukraine) is Novorossiya being taken from the Ottomans from 21 wars until Vlachia (Rumenia) 1707. Ukraine is mostly Galicia and west from Kiev and had NEVER being on Black Sea . Ukrainians and Okrainian- Russian settlers are two different ethnic groups, like Serbs and Croats (White Croats being actually Ukrainians too)

@sgolowka

14 күн бұрын

Don't be what u say... lalala

I’ve learned much from this session. Fascinating insights into what has led to today’s situation.

@georgeharding7949

Ай бұрын

he is a totally biased ukranian. not good to invite people from either side in the middle of a conflict. invite objective observers

@sacramentofwilderness6656

Ай бұрын

@@georgeharding7949being a Russian it was still interesting to hear his point of view, despite I the fact that I would disagree with many claims. At least, he was trying to speak something sensible, instead of "Russians are the moksha, that came out of from swamps, we tried to bring civilalization to them, but they turned out to be uneducated, cruel orcs, bla-bla"

@Ast151

Ай бұрын

@@georgeharding7949 lol...How did he end up Ukrainian being born in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia?

@salimmazariboufares3118

Ай бұрын

You learned only false things

@brandulak

Ай бұрын

@@georgeharding7949 Plokhy: born in Russia, lives in Canada. Some random russian bot in the comments: hurr durr biased Ukrainian, hurr durr. Btw you have any counter arguments to his words?

It was a pleasure. What a clever man. We need Plokii as world President.

One of the most important guests finally on the channel. Please read his books. Can’t wait for Timothy Snyder.

This is a balanced approach on discussing the current war. Well done, Lex! Listening to your podcasts is an antidote to my biases.

@manodirivera6703

Ай бұрын

Pseudobalanced. Nazi apologist and truth bender. Wrong on so many accounts, but presented smooth

@knecht3000

Ай бұрын

In general I agree. However IMO it's an issue that the podcasts with populists that make up their own facts are watched a lot more than those with scientists that mostly speak facts. The tucker podcast has >10 times more views than this one.

@arslanseitaly8364

Ай бұрын

It is not balanced at all. He whitewashed everything, skillfully avoiding all problematic topics

@nabiji

Ай бұрын

​@@arslanseitaly8364 elaborate.

@anatoliypankevych4853

Ай бұрын

@@arslanseitaly8364you definitely know everything better, than a professional historian. Especially you know about Ukrainian history, sitting in Kirghizia.

Lex, I admire your dedication to get to the bottom of issues however complicated and tangled these issues may be. Great podcast. Thank you for your work!

@iMetmor

Ай бұрын

Plokhy is a Ukrainian propagandist with history education. Inviting him is the opposite of getting to the bottom of the issues

@Lessgo00

Ай бұрын

​@@iMetmorI am Bulgarian, Slavic and i was always neutral. Today's Ukrainians were there first, here is where putin's propaganda starts falling apart

@iMetmor

Ай бұрын

@@Lessgo00 «Ukrainian» and «Russian» are not some tribes that lived in different lands. Russians are the people of the old Rus' state, much like Han Chinese are the people of the state ruled by the Han dynasty, or Americans are the people of the USA. Projecting «Ukraine» into ancient times is an anachronism. Ukrainians couldn't have been first anywhere, as «Russian» is an identity that is about a millenium older than «Ukrainian».

@Lessgo00

Ай бұрын

@@iMetmor Today's Ukrainians are direct successors to Kievan Rus'. Russians for some part are the same people that went out of the Kievan Rus' state and founded Russia. It's like i have a brother and we found together a country. Later he goes out and founds another country all by himself and after years he starts claiming the rights on our first country claiming that it was always his.

@TheSteinbitt

Ай бұрын

@@iMetmorRussland came from Kyiv, so I guess Ukrainians should rightfully rule Moscow:)

What a great, deeply informative episode. It's a shame it has more than 10 times less views than the one with Tucker

@TonnyDeff

Ай бұрын

It's bias. This guy is lying. Try to fact-check him.

@Dr_Beastus

Ай бұрын

@@TonnyDeff I’ll look into it - can you give some examples of points where he is lying? Also, what’s a good unbiased source?

@TonnyDeff

Ай бұрын

@@Dr_Beastus One example - he said there are no NAZIs in Ukraine nowadays. Please search in Google or better in DuckDuckGo NAZI and Ukraine. You will find a lot of evidence: symbols, flags, pictures, and tattoos (even with Hiter himself). Please read about SS Galizien and the Wolynia Massacre in 1943. He said also Bandera is considered as NAZI because he collaborated with Hitler, but also others (Stalin for instance) also collaborated with Hitler. The truth is Bandera is considered as a NAZI because he shared the same ideas with Hitler: Jews, Russians, Poles and other nations are less human than Ukrainians and Germans. Ukraine should be pure like a glass of water - and so on.

@TonnyDeff

Ай бұрын

@@Dr_Beastus check this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Decalogue_of_a_Ukrainian_Nationalist

Amazing historical talk, for learning from experts, and how your own personal perspective from family history played into the conversation. I'm new to your podcasts, but avidly watching them now. Thank you.

I hosted 30-40 player diplomacy games for people back in 2014 where each player got to play as a country and roleplay modern geopolitics. I didn't understand at the time (was a kid), but someone told me it was very important to include Ukraine as a separate country from Russia. I split them up and gave Ukraine control of Romania and some Baltic states (every part of the world had to be owned by some player at game start, there were only 40 players maximum and previous game hosts had Ukraine and Russia together). I didn't realize at the time the geopolitical implications for what I did. All I knew was that I made someone happy and it meant a lot to me.

@GarioTheRock

Ай бұрын

It meant a very potent strategic advantage to the player who owned Ukraine! Since the time of the Thracian empire and before to the modern day, Ukraine is an extremely geographically important area of the world for transportation and commerce for the regions east of Europe with the entire West. Which means it is even more important when borders start moving.

Thanks for this interview, now I want to read this man's books,.❤

@nonamenolastname3991

Ай бұрын

It will be usefull to read his book. Unfortunately I can stated that guest "hide" some facts that opposite his opinion, and also he has mistakes in the statements. So try to find others opinion too.

@fz1576

Ай бұрын

@@nonamenolastname3991 I also noticed that. But then, he was answering exactly what he was asked. There are other interviews with him where he is answering more confronting questions.

@JA-gz6cj

Ай бұрын

@@fz1576 which interviews?

@elenacrudge5815

Ай бұрын

If you want to be even more misled then read his books🤣 Actually it is sad to see how misinformed and disinformed people are. Please look for other sources as well.

@JA-gz6cj

Ай бұрын

@@elenacrudge5815 my sources are tucker carlson and russian state media because i'm an INDEPENDENT THINKER!

This is in agreement with Pro. Snyder’s classes on Ukraine. Nice to see academics in agreement

@ottrovgeisha2150

Ай бұрын

or simply copying each other?

@arjan2777

Ай бұрын

@@ottrovgeisha2150 On obvious things they will be in agreement.

@juanpablosanchezaveleyra6454

29 күн бұрын

"Nice to see a bias being confirmed without any more context or replies from dissenting people" There I fixed your comment.

@cookml

28 күн бұрын

When academics are in agreement they are not academics.

@arjan2777

28 күн бұрын

@@cookml There is something called scientific consensus. Usually if there is scientific consensus about something that means that it is for all intense and purposes the truth. So unless you find a serious academic, not a Russian propagandists, who disagrees with Snyder you can just assume it is true. B cause if there is any real reason to disagree with Snyder some academic will do so. Otherwise no.

Lex, it was another great podcast. When will you be interviewing Serhii Horoshiy?

maybe it's time to interview Timothy Snyder?

I wish to see discussion on this topic between profesor Measheimer, Dougles Mac Greggor, profesor Sachs vs Serhii Plokhy

@trogdortpennypacker6160

Ай бұрын

They all are experts in different fields so it would be extremely difficult. Mearsheimer is a rockstar in IR, Macgregor has a PhD in IR but he was really known for being a innovative military thinker, Sachs is an economist/public policy wonk, and Plokhy is a historian. Plokhy has no knowledge in their fields and vice versa.

@jozefpalica

Ай бұрын

@@trogdortpennypacker6160 disagree , on the topic of origin Russian - Ukrainian conflict all of them have great knowledge of recent history of those countries , theoretical and practical(direct communication with political elites of this era )

@markp6621

Ай бұрын

Yes... Primary sources are king in the study of history (and those guys qualify as primary sources on quite a few topics), and if one is to dismiss what they say one must have good reason.

@redrev674

Ай бұрын

@@markp6621primary sources are contemporary sources that were there at the time that the events happened ie the best sources of history. None of these names clearly are primary sources!

@markp6621

Ай бұрын

@@redrev674 That shows you how little you know. Sachs knew most of the eastern European leaders including those of Ukraine and Russia because he was advising them economically. He also knew those in Washington in that context. Scott Ritter was a weapons inspector in the Soviet Union representing US interests and knew military and civilian leaders in both the east and west at the highest levels. I'm less aware of MacGregor's experience, but it was probably NATO related and he does seem to have some knowledge and contacts in Ukraine and Poland from around the end of the cold war.

@lexfridman What's your opinion on Interviewing the political scientist: George Friedman (Friedman György)

Великолепный выпуск! Огромное спасибо🙏🏼 привет из Москвы 💔

Delighted to listen to the talk. It seems to me that, closer to the beginning of the fourth hour of the talk, both gentlemen started to feel tired, especially Lex.

Thank you for the interview.

A truly brilliant interview, thank you!

I could listen all day all week to this man

Lex, well done. Your guest is one of the best researchers of the history of East Europe. Now, waiting for Timothy Snyder...

@ihikebc2295

Ай бұрын

This guest is very biased ethnic Ukrainian. Shame on him.

I hope you have Henry Rollins as a guest. A conversation between you two would be fascinating given Henry's travels and humanitarian views.

this guest hit on so many topics spot on

Ty Lex. This is such an incredibly important part our collective history

Great interview, thanks for inviting Serhii Plokhy

thank you for a great episode and an amazing guest!

VERY INFORMATIVE-THANK YOU

Thank you!

Question unrelated to the video: why do reactions often not get through, despite them not violating community guidelines? I have written a lot of reactions below the video and they just don't show up. It's highly frustrating.

@user-sy5yw2dj3k

Ай бұрын

They do. Just keep scrolling😂

Thank you for an interesting guest and a great interview. I have wanted to read one of his books for a while. But have never gotten to it.

@dimapro

Ай бұрын

Load of clap. go back to school

@anikiforova

Ай бұрын

@@dimapro judging by the language you are using, you either need to attend school yourself, or it's not very helpful 🤡

@dimapro

Ай бұрын

Glad you can identify yourself otherwise hard to see that you are a clown@@anikiforova

@anikiforova

Ай бұрын

@@dimapro I'm afraid you are projecting your issues onto others, dear.

@TheWefikus

Ай бұрын

@@dimaproda da Dima

High quality, So interesting, thank you

Excellent analysis. Plohky is a phenomenal narrator

@Lex, thank you very much for this amazing episode of podcast! I am Ukrainian, so naturally I am biased on the topic of war, but still it's very important for me that you invite people that tell a comprehensive history of East European region. Many people don't understand the drama, difficulty, confusion, connection, dilemmas that surround this discussion between Ukraine and Russia. Many people tend to simplify or narrow down the path of the history into the war as a result of one or two simple historical moments. But truth is, nothing is easy when it comes to Ukraine and Russia. That's why EVEN inside just Ukraine, there will be people telling one story and yet in the same country there will be people telling the other story. There are a lot of emotions going around and very little logical sense. So, I appreciate you inviting a well educated person to talk real historical, political, social facts that happened in this region and led to what has happened.

@aloha5527

Ай бұрын

Yes, but professor is lying.

@illz47

Ай бұрын

As a Ukrainian I second this

@andriyandriychuk

Ай бұрын

Finally we saw a Ukrainian guest.

@mythbuster6126

Ай бұрын

What political, historical and social facts led to the Ukrainian commander taking selfies in front of Bandera's portrait with a smile?

@eighty88eight

Ай бұрын

We will not move NATO one inch to the East ! !

Loving the history podcasts. Thanks Lex.

@brandonlance3601

Ай бұрын

More of a political opinion piece

@BigGabe-hr3vk

Ай бұрын

Get over it, people have political opinions. I don't agree with all the political opinions expressed in this video, implicitly and explicitly. But you can still appreciate the history and differentiate what the facts are. Or you can't, and that's a shame. For you, not for me.@@brandonlance3601

@johnlyndonescario419

Ай бұрын

​@@brandonlance3601And pro-Ukrainian is not??? Lololol.

Great interview.

Aleksandar, congratulations for questions asked, as well as a very calm manner of interviewing respected Ukrainian Professor. Both of you have a nice Slavic accent and I am happy that you are not hiding it. It would be interesting if your interviewee would be in a debate in which slightly different opinions would be on the table. However, the Ukrainian Professor delivered his version of the truth. Another dimension which I want to stress is that this horrible conflict had to be avoided, because Slavic people are killing Slavic people. Let us talk about the outcome of this conflict in a couple of years, hoping that in the meantime the entire Europe will not be already totally destroyed, or burning. Actually, I like the patriotic segments of the speech of your interviewee.

At the 1:41 mark Serhii talks about Ukraine being a truly bilingual country. Could this also apply also in Slovakia? Not to quibble on a minor point, but I think many Slovaks can speak and understand Czech. But maybe they're closer linguistically than Russian and Ukrainian. I don't know. Perhaps someone can speak to this. Thank you for the interview. Very knowledgeable guest and Lex you always do great work as an interviewer.

@gedrovitch

Ай бұрын

I can tell you that linguistically, Ukrainian closer to Slovaks and Czechs languages, than to Russian.

@CentralAnalytiX

Ай бұрын

Many Ukrainians speak fluent Russian because they either had everyone around them speak Russian, or they had TV where most of the films and TV shows were in Russian, or both. But from my experience talking with Russians, they struggle to understand Ukrainian. If we look at vocabulary, Belarusian shares 84% of vocabulary, Polish 70%, Slovak 68%, Russian 62%.

@rubeng160

Ай бұрын

My guess is Czech and Slovakian are closer to each other than Russian and Ukrainian. If a Czech, visiting Bratislava, can understand Slovakian without previous exposure to the language then it is not the same thing as in Ukraine. Russians from Russia cannot understand Ukrainian. But Russian-speaking people from Ukraine do understand Ukrainian for most part. That's why it is not uncommon in Ukraine to have bilingual conversations expecting that the one person would easily understand what the other person says. And if, for example, a Russian-speaking person does not understand the Ukrainian-speaking person at all then it becomes clear that the first person is not from Ukraine. Because even if a Russian speaker has never spoken any Ukrianian, just by living in Ukraine he would have a decent passive knowledge of Ukrainian from the school, media, songs on the radio, just coming across people from different parts of Ukraine. So, Serhii explained it very accurately. Having at least passive knowledge of both Ukrainian and Russian is a marker that a person has lived in Ukraine for some time. But Czech and Slovakian are just much closer to each other, that's why if a person understands Slovakian it does not necessarily mean he is from Slovakia, maybe he is from the Czechia.

@mado.madeleine

Ай бұрын

I know 3 of these languages. Czech and Slovak are way more similar to each other than Russian and Ukrainian. Also, while a lot of Slovaks can actually speak Czech, Czechs might understand Slovak but they don't usually speak it. So yeah, you could say Slovakia is kinda bilingual (not officially though), but there are also plenty of bilingual (and even multilingual) countries in Africa and Asia.

@lukebruce5234

Ай бұрын

No it is not. Czech and Slovak are considered different languages for political reasons. In reality they are just dialects of one another. Ukrainian and Belorussian could be considered such but Russian is already significant enough and is a different language.

Listened to this episode on Apple Podcasts and liked it enough to come here and leave a like!

Information about the tzarand the Russian orthodox cchurch please

@WangMingGe

Ай бұрын

They are working as a spy agency in Ukraine to this day. There is a very good reason the government tries to restrict their activities.

This is good one

Great insights here makes this a great interview. I am a great believer that circumstances make leaders and leaders create circumstances. Thank you Lex.

Thank you, Lex. That was very interesting.

Great guest. Thank you for this excellent conversation!

Great discussion. Very learned man.

At 1:15:31 he says Komsomol leaders (Soviet youth political organization), not council leaders, 1:15:47 - indistinct word here is Politburo, and at 1:16:07 is mentioned Brezhnev, not Beria (Beria is long gone by that time). 1:16:14 - in foreign language he means Siloviki, which is Russian umbrella term for military, security, and police state organizations.

@denisgut

Ай бұрын

It's fascinating how this man can teach people in Harvard with such a level of knowledge 😂

Thank you for this video. I watched it all the way through and it was. Very informative

Great insightful interview.

Great conversation Lex. Thank you.

GREAT interview, Lex, I sincerely appreciate your attention and being able to LISTEN, not just ask (very smart) questions.

@dimapro

Ай бұрын

sure sure great interview not at all not full of bs and leading questions. What a disappointment you are Lex

@brandulak

Ай бұрын

@@dimapro keep chugging your state propaganda Dmitry. Or maybe you have some factual arguments that can disprove some parts of this interview?

Lovely interview 👋

Thank you for this discussion 🇺🇦

What about interviewing Ivan Katchanovski, Canadian-Ukranian professor from University of Ottawa? He has very different views from Serhii Plokhy. Both are ukranians, both are professors and have such different views on the same topic. It would be interesting to listen too.

@user-wz5gb6ui6l

Ай бұрын

Excellent idea.

@taras4435

Ай бұрын

As a Ukrainian I didn't hear about Ivan Katchanovski before.After looking up the things he is saying I can tell you as a Ukrainian that it's bullshit. This interview with Serhii Plokhy very well tells the story and represents what a vast majority of Ukrainians think.

@MrMaxStalsky

Ай бұрын

In a couple words, what is he saying?

@jkramer2102

Ай бұрын

At academia edu there is a paper from Ivan Katchanovski available "Court in Kiev has confirmed: Maidan snipers fired from the Hotel Ukraina"

@QuitYoJibby-JabbinFool

Ай бұрын

​@@MrMaxStalsky that there are WAYYYYY MORE NEO--NAHZEES and Stepan Banderas lovers in Ukraine than previously thought......

An excellently displayed comprehensive knowledge of past, present and future of the struggles of that part of the world, which is affecting all of us.

@feorh1919

Ай бұрын

most of the speakers stories are either made up or doctored

@nyalarhotep

Ай бұрын

Pure Ukrainian whitewash propaganda. The only difference is that he presents it in a more civilized fashion than many.

Lex you have to interview Peter Turchin. I think you two might get a long well and you’d think his perspective on the war is interesting

"the atmosphere is not conducive to independent analysis" preete good conclusion..

Wonderful and timely guest! Lex I noticed the essential water on the desk. Since they aren’t listed in your sponsors, I thought I would comment on this product. It was my water of choice for nearly a year before, realizing my health began to deteriorate. I couldn’t get enough of this clean cold, delicious tasting water. but the high alkalinity caused Gerd and dysfunction of my gallbladder. With no other interventions, I ceased drinking the water and all of the symptoms, the burning in my throat. The indigestion, and the pain in my gallbladder went away. I did some research online and learned that, although it sounds counterintuitive, too much alkalinity in the stomach is not good for digestion. So many of these new fad health waters are anything but healthy.

@user-xq1wz3tp5z

Ай бұрын

It's said that our guts become less acidic with age, which is why supplementation of vitamin B12 becomes useful.

@emrage

Ай бұрын

Here's a thought why don't you just drink normal water that's filtered and have your vitamins from food and supplements?

thanks for this

After the first three months of the recruitment drive, there were 80,000 volunteers for the SS Division Galicia, out of which 53,000 were admitted. About 25,000 were deemed fit for service and 13,245 passed the medical examination. They were sent to training, and 1,487 were dropped during the training period, leaving the division with 11,758 personnel.

@NeoZondix

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There was no SS Galicia ever. There was Waffen SS Galicia. Waffen SS was acquitted by the Nuremberg trials. Your argument is trash

@WangMingGe

Ай бұрын

Your numbers are a bit low. Heroes of Ukraine, all of them, though.

I love videos like this. It gets into the details of history without the crazy hysteria that people seem to want to engage in. I actually wish this was longer.

@Namuchat

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Yeah! Six hours of talk would be great, with both Lex and his interviewee falling asleep 😂

@kevinn1158

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@@Namuchat haha. Yah, I forgot they aren't robots

You should invite a guest to have a discussion on the birth rate crisis that is occuring in South Korea. The slow death of a society and finding out the reason behind it seems to me to be more urgent then an endless sequence on 'War' where the rest of humanity is left out from the discussion and political interest is the major driving force behind it