Sorry guys, I no longer indulge internet "EMP experts" on this thread. There are a lot of people posting stuff that is flat out wrong, and ill informed. I'm not here to stroke any one's ego by debating the subject. I was allowing it, to show exactly what type of people are out there muddying up the discussion. If you want to show everyone how smart you are, go to the EMP Shield forum and argue with them, or start your own channel and do it there. From here on out, I'm just deleting posts that are ill informed, or confrontational. No debate, no argument, no response. Go do it someplace else.

@zeruty

11 ай бұрын

Lol you're so wrong you can't even handle the people telling you you're a shill for a ridiculously stupid scam device.

Awesome breakdown of EMP Shield from a consumer standpoint!

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

We are glad it was helpful.

Thanks good to see it work....

@GrumpyAcresFarm

4 ай бұрын

No problem 👍

I need an EMP device because my daughter is pregnant and I have an autistic son and a four year old plus my niece that's 16 who live here along with my daughters friend including my elderly mother who is a widow. My brother's a trucker but his dog his had forever died on him by cardiac arrest & now my brother is in the hospital bc it's hard on his heart. He has survived two heart attacks but I need the EMP protection device so I can save my family! I'm 39 years old and always try to help them all out. Thank for you reading this, Sincerely Amy😊

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Ай бұрын

@AmyPool-zf8mj Contact the guys at EMP Shield, they will be able to get you what you need.

Thanks for the info on this. I am purchasing mine tomorrow.

Thanks for the great info! I know a lot of what lighting can do. Great Job.

Great info. Thank you 🙏

Thanks G going back over videos I sure need to buy some. We were too close with spring storms. Love to you and Yoda

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

Talk to the sales guys at EM shield. They will answer all your questions and get you exactly what you need.

Great video. Straight to the point. Thank you.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it useful

I'm your 107th subscriber. Thanks for sharing this video!

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. EMP protection is so far off most people's radar it's scary - Grumpy G

@PraxisPrepper

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAcresFarm It's one of those things that feels like it's very low priority to take care of... until it happens and it suddenly becomes the most important problem that you suddenly have to deal with. I just finished building my new place last year. I was building all during the pandemic (which was both a blessing and a curse). There were the supply shortages of everything, and I needed to buy everything way in advance, but it also freed up TONS of time to do the building because no one could go anywhere or do anything for that whole year. Anyhow, just like the trim around the doors, the electrical system still needs finishing and I figured that now would be a good time to get the EMP/CME protection in there as well. I really appreciated your video because, you're right that this is sort of like buying a mattress in that you don't really know (aka, "understand") what's in the thing, and unlike a mattress, you can't even lie down on it to test it out... I mean you could, but laying down on an EMP Shield box won't give you much insight. ;) So I appreciated you sharing this experience of the product actually saving a system from what would have otherwise been a huge pain in the butt! Best luck to you. These are both challenging and interesting times!

Danny said they work you say they work. And I trust you both

Will the EMP device work if power is out...or with the 12 volt system if the car battery is dead ?

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

I am no expert. So my first answer would be to direct your question to EMP Shield. I am positive they would answer you. If I were to make a supposition, I would say "Yes". My reasoning is that an EMP works through induction, so whether the device is plugged in, unplugged, whatever a non-protected device (no EMP Shield, faraday cage, etc.) is vulnerable. An EMP Shield device is a high speed shunt, so any "excess" energy, no matter where is from would be dropped in to the ground.

Nice guy- but not entirely convinced

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

Talk to the EMP guys.

People had better be VERY careful about this device. I have one on my breaker box and I have no REAL idea if this thing will work, or not. However, I also attached one to my solar controller and it immediately damaged it. I had to replace the controller at $750. The previous controller was working just fine until I attached that damned EMP Shield. It then discharged my batteries and incorrectly caused the controller to display them as fully charged. The replacement has been working just fine. They wouldn't even call back to see what was causing the trouble. Do NOT put this thing on ANY solar or wind controller as you might experience the same situation and wind up replacing your controller.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Frank is correct, you need to ensure that you put the proper model on your solar system, or you will run in to the same problems. If you are uncertain about what model you might need, call EMP Shield customer service. They'll help you get the proper system.

@tekki2060

2 жыл бұрын

NO! I had the correct model per their instructions of the proper model to use. This thing just plain damaged the controller. They wouldn't even return my phone calls. Then they tried to charge me a portion of the refund as they stated it wasn't returned within the time frame that allowed a full refund. Well, they gave me back the missing amount when I told them I would post this experience web wide. Again, DO NOT ATTACH THIS THING TO ANY SOLAR OR WIND CONTROLLER!!!!!!!

@nikolajhol

2 жыл бұрын

Are you saying Frank's solar controller malfunctioned after installing the empshield, because the wrong model was installed? It's important information to me, as I am in the same boat trying to EMP protect my solar system, and I have received some conflicting advice from empshield regarding which model/s to choose.

@tekki2060

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikolajhol Do NOT install this on your solar controller! It damaged mine and drained my batteries. To make things even worse I received practically NO support from EMP Shield. I sent that thing back and they tried to charge me a restocking fee for their non functional product. I still have one on my breaker box, but whether it will work, or not, remains to be seen. I have a Midnite Classic 150 which is an excellent MPPT controller. Midnite has a surge protector which I did install on the controller. It works just fine. What I have done is purchase an additional controller and inverter which I'm going to put in a faraday cage. I recommend that you consider doing the same.

@nikolajhol

2 жыл бұрын

@Frank Anast Thank you very much for this swift and detailed response. Just to clarify, according to empshield was it because you received/used the wrong voltage model as Grumpy Acres Farm suggest? I have a Solis RHI 3K 48ES hybrid inverter with included solar controller. First, I was told, I needed the 600 V DC empshield AND the 48 V DC empshield (for the batteries) (besides the 240 V AC euro empshield for the home side, which makes sense). Then, I realised myself, I needed the Dual version of the 600 V DC empshield, as I have two inputs to my inverter (and two strings of solar panels). Now, I question if I even need the 48 V DC empshield after listening to Andrew from empshield in this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmmM0tpycqapkso.html 7:45/8.30: "... We tie in the empshield to the very first device in that system. So, normally, it would be a charge controller or an inverter, whatever comes first after the PV array, and we put it there because that huge amount of electricity is been[?] coming in directly through the PV array. It can be anywhere from 12 V, 24 V, but you are not going off of your battery system, you are actually going off of the maximum input voltage from your solar panels, so off grid systems are normally 90 to a hundred and fifty volts. You can go all the way up to 600 volts. ...You'll tie it right in. Now, it doesn't mean, it is only protecting that surge coming from the panel. It will protect everything inside that DC system..." Based on this information, one 600 V DC dual empshield would be sufficient to protect all of my DC side - solar panels, inverter, as well as batteries. Actually, we share the same line of thought. I already have in storage (wrapped in three layers of heavy duty alufoil) another Solis hybrid inverter (the 5K model) as well as a couple of Pylontech batteries (and some spare solar panels, but I understand it is very unlikely those will be damaged during an EMP). Again, thank you for taking the time to reply. I was just beginning to feel comfortable with the empshield as my choice of EMP protection, now I have to reconsider carefully after your experience. The last thing I want, is my well-functioning off grid solar system to receive damage.

I have 6 of them. At the very least I have lightning protection for my home, quad, RV and cars. Overall I see it as cheap insurance.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Well, welcome aboard, always good to see a new face. We agree, with our dependency of cheap power being able to protect our electronic equipment is a no brainer in our book.

@zeruty

11 ай бұрын

Lol good luck

@beardpapa7306

11 ай бұрын

@@zeruty at the very least the one I bought for my home saved all our electronics in our home after our house was struck by lightning a month ago. So that $300 price tag was well worth it.

In theory they should work and shouldn't work at the same time. This is the very 1st time I even heard about any of this BUT LETS JUST USE LOGIC! These can not hurt and these can not withstand a very big serious emp. An emp is the same thing as an surge but a big emp from something like a nuclear bomb last a lot longer and the environment stays charged for a while. I highly doubt anything will be able to handle a surge that big but this should help with things like power surges lighting strikes small emp attacks or an emp attack that is not directed at you but something close enough to you that you are collateral damage. This is very interesting and something our government should be heavily invested in. People can not live without electricity now let alone 50 years from now. An emp attack could send us into the dark ages because we are way to reliant on electricity

@spagsunfiltered

2 жыл бұрын

These products took twice the induction of the most powerful weaponized EMP devices known of. It took the load of voltage over 40 times with zero degradation. Understanding how speed trumps power in this case will shed light on why this product absolutely will work. Dr. Bill Radowski of the US EMP Commisiom says they work. There really is no arguing with that.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Spags Unfiltered for popping on and giving an informed answer. Justin, if you have any other questions, I would seriously suggest contacting the guys at EMP Shield directly. They love discussing the topic.

Here’s the problem, IF someone wanted to hit us with an EMP, They are CERTAINLY smart enough to hit us with MULTIPLE emps so your Zeno shield device will be worthless after it absorbs the first one. So you better buy 3 or 4 of them

@GrumpyAcresFarm

9 ай бұрын

The device is rated for multiple EMP hits; they stopped testing at 40 consecutive pulses, IIRC. Ask the EMP Shield guys for the details of the tests, not me. It can only take one hit from a lightning strike, though.

Did they give a report on if anything else was damaged? I.e the shield absorbed the hit and the circuits that it was protecting were fine?

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not quite sure what you mean. If I am understanding correctly, you are asking if they had other systems connected to the devices when they tested them? If that's the case, you'd have to go do a deep dive on the test data to get those specific details. I don't want to steer you wrong by not having 100% recollection. I can tell you that recent stuff they had done do put that to the test. In fact one is side by side testing, one with an EMP Shield and one without. I can't give further details, because I honestly don't have any. EMP Shield has the results and is waiting for the white paper summaries before releasing them to the public. I can tell you they are excited by the results and are chomping at the bit to show people what they have. Sorry I can't give a better answer.

@shawnrandall1368

Жыл бұрын

This is absolutely the very best response I've seen from a company I m thinking of buying. Glad this guy will not lie to us. All he s doing is be honest.

Wanted to do a video showing us how it works with an EMP

@GrumpyAcresFarm

10 ай бұрын

The problem with testing for an EMP, from what I am told, is that there are so many variables that they can not test one in total. They can only test different aspects at any given time, then bring the results together. Doesn't make for very good television. They were supposed to make a video where they zapped a new pick up, never heard what came of that.

nice one

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I had time to document all the positive stories that EMP Shield gets from customers. Not enough time in the day for me to do that and get my stuff accomplished. have a great one.

@NikosKatsikanis

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAcresFarm i got into prepping

How do I get one for my vehicle and home? I would like to buy this product

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

You can order them directly from the EMP Shield site. Use the code Grump to get $50 off each device. Assuming you live in the US, I'd say youll need a web vehicle model and a 120v/ 240v home model. Double check, tho

Can you reccommend a EMP shield for solar panels and back up batteries?

@GrumpyAcresFarm

7 ай бұрын

Yes, they do make an EMP for your solar system. It goes between the panels and charge controller. You'll need to know the voltage of your system. Contact the EMP guys and they'll be able to ask all the right questions to ensure you are getting the right one.

@angelminiet5443

7 ай бұрын

@@GrumpyAcresFarm Thank you. Will do that tomorrow.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

7 ай бұрын

No problem

Don't our military bases have emp devices suspended by wire at their entrance gates? I've seen them at fort carson. Surely it'd be mutually beneficial for the military snd emp shield to test one at the gate.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

5 ай бұрын

Can not attest to that one way or another. From my understanding, I would venture that what you are describing is something else. Like I said, I dunno.

Hello, I just found your channel, is the $50 off still good? I would really like to have one.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it is. If you have any problems using it, let me know.

Nothing is guaranteed but if its good enough for the Military then its good enough for me.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

There is something to be said about MilSpec :-)

Wish I could afford one. Maybe next year as I eliminate some expenses.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Use the code "Leviathan" or "Grumpy" and get $50 🙂

@zeruty

11 ай бұрын

Save your money 😂

I would love to have one for home I just can't afford it I'm older and it's out of my price range

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

Keep up with our KZread channel, we give these away at different subscriber levels. .

@zeruty

11 ай бұрын

Save your money, don't throw away money on this scam.

I thought emp shield was already tested.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Good question. They are doing more testing at a coupe of different labs that requested it. EMP Shield also wanted to do some further testing on it's own; R and D type stuff. I know what one of the tests is, and it sounded pretty cool. All I can honestly say at this point is that the results should be back sometime soon. I'm trying to make it so that Grumpy Acres subs are some of the first to hear about it all once it's publicly released. They deserve it. We shall see if I can pull that off. Thanks for stopping by and asking about it..

@spagsunfiltered

2 жыл бұрын

They have been tested at Metatech and Keystone Compliance.

You can make an accurate E1 simulation pulse by coupling a spiral line pulse transformer (basically a jelly roll hv capacitor with 4 to 16 extra turns of well insulated foil in the middle) to a fractal antenna like those gimmicy as seen on TV antennas and a small satellite dish to reflect the pulse. When the capacitor discharges it develops hundreds of kilovolts at over 1000A peak at about 120nS then the antenna shreds it to a wide range of frequencies set by the isolation inductor. These are all stacked on top of one another and compressed to about 4nS risetime well into the MV per meter range. Not much survives blasting by this.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input

Why don't the test the car one? Eaton which make a lot of the breakers and panels makes a whole house protection for $130.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

Those are questions best addressed to EMP Shield.

@christopherleubner6633

Жыл бұрын

Basically the same guts inside, bilateral TVS diodes, a gas dicharge tube, and a lot of MOVs. Same deal it is single shot and needs to be replaced once it fires.

which will survival your Modern 2019 50.000 truck vs 1990 Military Grade Humvee or will large Immobilized class bowl tent with bucket seats there are cheaper way learn about howbig you can make them Faraday Gage? think of all chicken coop and they don't uses E-Toys

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

The low tech will always be better; we gotta do SHTF with wat we got, though, right? It's all speculation until it happens, so we stack the deck best we can.

Issue I see is that its a whole house device, & probably won't protect devices unless they are close to the EMP shield. What will happen is that during an EMP event all of the wiring will collect energy. When the EMP shield clamps it will create a secondary current loop that allows high voltage current to reach any devices connected. Ideally you need a point of load (PoL) protection such that the EMP surge is clamped and blocks the high voltage from damaging the device. Pol protectors would be connected where your device is connected into the house wiring. The other issue its still possible for devices to get damaged with a Point of load (PoL) surge protector if the surge protect does not clamp all conductors (ie Line, neutral ground or L1,L2,N, G for 240 devices) because its can still leave a path for high voltage to flow.Another issue if devices have an alternative path to ground. For instance, devices connected to water lines which is grounded. Or devices connected to phone lines, Coax, or other low voltage wiring since it can provide an alternative path too. Unfortunately most common surge protectors are single way protection (L-N). An EMP surge protector needs to be three way to address common mode voltage spikes L-N, N-G, & L-G, such that there is no path for the current to get to the device to be protected. If you were to use an EMP Shield at the panel and at each device (PoL), that would be a workable solution.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Well, Guy Tech, as Ii said I am not an EMP expert, I just happen to know some. If you haven't I suggest you go to the EMP Shield site and check out the test data. There is a link in the description. If you still have questions or concerns, reach out to them and ask about it. EMP Shield tries to be responsive to consumer inquiries. If they don't get back to you in a timely manner (things happen), contact me here in the comments,. I know a guy, wink, wink. Here's the deal. I don't like living life based on probabies. I like to base decisions on as much solid information as I can get. With your questions, or concerns, about the EMP Shield you have the unique opportunity to get solid information from bonafide experts in the field, not self taught EMP internet experts. There are detractors of the product that bash it and refuse to even look at the data or engage the company, so certain they are that it doesn't work. I am not saying you are one of those people, I don't know you from Adam. I'm just saying they exist. I have no time for people like that in my life whether it's concerning EMP protection, homesteading, or any other subject on which my family's well being hinges on, and neither should any one else. Like I said, go check out the test data, if that doesn't ally your concerns and want to inquire more reach out to them. If they don't respond, let me know here and I will ensure that someone contacts you. I may not be able to address technical questions; I can get customer service issues addressed, though. In the end, if your concerns are not alleviated, don't buy the product; I wouldn't. Have a great day my man, and go Live A Life Done Free - Grumpy G

@guytech7310

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAcresFarm I already had several conversions with Dr Bradley. He agrees with my assessment. If you don't believe me, ask him about the need to use PoL protection. I have no issues with EMP shield, There are just limitations if its installed as a whole house protector for EMP events.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

@@guytech7310 ​ Fair enough. As I said, I am not an expert on the topic, so I am not going to discuss technical aspects. All I can say at this point is that there are a whole bunch of people (not just at EMP Shield), some in very high places, that have looked at the data and have come to a different conclusion than Mr. Bradley. From where I sit, without an EMP or CME happening I personally couldn't begin to tell you who is right. I can only tell you who I put trust for my family's well being in. Again, I would suggest contacting EMP Shield and asking them about it. They are pretty responsive and transparent about the whole thing. And again, if they aren't let me know and I will help where I can. Maybe they have insight in to something you hadn't thought of or maybe you'll feel even more validated after talking to them. You'll never know unless you reach out to them directly. If you aren't willing to do that, then I honestly don't see the purpose of your original post or where the conversation can go from here. I sincerely wish you the best of luck, and pray for everyone's sake that we never have to find out who is right on this matter. If that happens, whether the EMP Shield works as advertised or not, there word "sucks" would take on a whole new meaning for all. Have a great one - Grumpy G OK, shameless plug time - Have you priced whole house lightening protection systems or had to file an insurance claim because of a lightening strike? For the price, an EMP Shield device is worth purchasing just for the proven lightening protection it provides alone. The EMP protection is just icing on the cake when it comes to taking care of your family. So, what's to lose? Sorry, I couldn't help myself. ;-)

@guytech7310

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAcresFarm I designed my own whole house protection system. I used TVS diodes instead of MOVs because MOVs degrade over time. Day to day, there will be small transients that will slowly degrade MOVs. Every time there is a power outage, odds are there is a surge behind it.Also not sure how MOVs will perform when E2 hits after E1. Possible that E1 takes out the MOVs leaving E2 to cause damage. TVS diodes do not degrade like MOVs but they are considerably more expensive. I did my own low cost testing by discharging High voltage pulses through my protector to ensure it works correctly. I am also installing a lot of Point of Load protectors, and using MC\EMT (Shielded) wiring to help attenuate EMP energy. For CME, I don't think any surge suppressor will work because the CME will induce current for hours and no surge protector can handle it. Fortunately we have 2 to 3 days notices of a CME. I will disconnect every device and place sensitive devices (Radios, electronics) in a faraday cage prior to the arrival of an CME. That said a Grid killing CME is going to collapse civilization, You need to be self reliant for food & energy production. CME will trash all of the grid transformers, include the pole mounted step-down transformers that are connected to homes. There are millions of those transformers & they would all need to be replaced. For a NEMP, well that means WW3, If the US is hit with a NEMP, the US is going to retaliate. Only two nations can launch a NEMP that can take out CONUS: Russia & China, and they aren't going to just launch one Nuke, they are going to go full hog on the nukes. A rogue state like NK does have the means to launch a CONUS sized EMP: need to get at least a 5Mt 330miles over CONUS. 5Mt is about a 10 ton payload on a rocket. FWIW: I spent a lot of time researching this topic, & I am an electrical engineer.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

​@@guytech7310 Please read this entire comment. For the third time, I am not knowledgeable enough to make detailed comments on the technical aspects of it all. You initially stated, and continue to state that you don't think EMP Shield devices work as advertised. I suggested that you contact EMP Shield directly about the issue...twice. You haven't done so, or plan to do so as far as I can tell. If you were truly interested in having an in-depth discussion about the issue, the proper response both times would have been, "OK, thank you for the suggestion, I'll do that". Then, you would have actually contacted the experts that make the device and had a discussion with them, not some third party. Unless you have the ability to generate a full on EMP, your system has not been fully tested, and you are going completely off supposition. That fact is inarguable. There are only a handful of places in the country that can closely replicate the effects of an EMP generated by a nuclear device, or a CME. None of them are someone's home workshop, as far as I know. There is something off about going around telling people that EMP Shield doesn't work as advertised, then touting your own system. Considering that EMP Shield has been tested by very reputable labs that can replicate the effects, and is going through even more extensive testing and validation as we speak, it all seems very hubristic. I am all for open discussion about EMP Shield. I have faith in the product, the testing that has been done, and the claims as to how it works. With the amount of money we have invested in the endeavor, I better have, or I am a fool. Unless you are willing to contact the people who are the ultimate SMEs on the device you aren't perusing an open, or complete discussion. Discussing technical aspects with an admitted layman or in the echo chamber of a third party who didn't develop the device or have full knowledge of how it works doesn't cut it. I am not here to validate you, or anyone else. Nor, as I said, do I have the patience to sit here and listen to someone who in my opinion is not really interested in having a full discussion about the topic Not just you and not just this topic, but any one on any topic. I've been open and polite thus far. I've given you a platform and a suggested direction to follow to address your concerns. If you aren't going to contact EMP Shield and want to continue pontificating on how you think it doesn't work, please go do so in your own space. Provide a link and I'll post it so people can go to your space and hear what you have to say. You can respond back any way you want. Realize this, it's my house and I have zero problems zotting comments that I feel are mis-informative and/or disruptive. I do not care if this upsets anyone, or not. Have a great day - Grumpy G

They need a testing vid like this (from Sol-Ark) placing an EMP shield on an electronic component: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jJZ8rZiOodDgn8o.html

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

They were supposed to be putting one out. I'll ask them about it and let you know.

The thing I don't understand is the patent. They've been "patent pending" for several years now & I'm guessing it's because they can't actually patent it.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

Have you asked them? Until you do, anything that is said is just unfounded speculation.

@Blurns

Жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAcresFarm I am speculating, because I first heard of the device several years ago but have never seen a patent or patent application number.

@Blurns

Жыл бұрын

​@@GrumpyAcresFarm I found the patent, but I still don't really get it. From the looks of it they just patented the idea of using 3 different surge protectors at the same time, rated for voltage surges to expect for E1, E2 & E3. It's just a box full of metal-oxide varistors.

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

@@Blurns Again, have you asked EMP Shield these questions?

@Blurns

Жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAcresFarm Nope. They never really claimed to do anything new, they just claim to do a better job than other devices on the market by being faster. I'm just surprised that their patent is something that could even be patented in the first place.

It's scam?

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

Don't ask me, and don't trust anyone that responds to this thread; good or bad. Go out and look at the data and look at the organizations that have partnered w/ EMP Shield. After that, you should be able to make up your mind on the matter on your own.

@Kims586

2 жыл бұрын

Mmm

no

@GrumpyAcresFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great expression there, bub. You must be an Internet EMP expert...

Emp shield is a scam ive been sayong since they started with the promoting 🙄

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

OK, where is your proof? Can you provide testing data that shows that EM Sheild doesn't work as advertised? Could you post it so that people can make up their minds on their own?

@terryreyes1125

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAcresFarm same goes for you. Where is the proof it works? As an electrician i will tell you all it is an extension of cables giving you longer ground cables. That crap is laughable 🙄

@terryreyes1125

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAcresFarm kzread.info/dash/bejne/gaOCu5hyirXKYps.html but here goes a video that makes 100% sense

@GrumpyAcresFarm

2 жыл бұрын

@@terryreyes1125 Well, as I've said to others, the testing data is right there on the EMP Shield site, if one would bother to go look. Laughable is an electrician that pretends to be an internet EMP expert, who can't disprove the data supplied and resorts to childish responses. I have provided data for people to look at, while all you provide is a baseless attack. Next time you respond, put forward data to back up your claim.

@rhercha1

2 жыл бұрын

I have talked to them too they have not actually tested the device under real world or simulated conditions, they said that is their next step.