Ok so I have an opinion on a couple things. First is in your main panel you have 2 blue tab square d homeline breakers that are arc fault protected (just so you know) these have been recalled by square d (should be white colored currently) Secondly on your sub panel you put the ground or green wire on the same bus as the neutral or white wire. The problem is that on a sub panel the ground and neutral are separated (also called an extended service) and that is why you have the ground bar on the right side of your sub panel. That is the correct placement of the green wire NOT on the neutral bar as you showed. I am a licensed electrician and these are the things that I see as a problem, otherwise a great video. :)

@TheRealWorld737

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the tips and advice! Thanks

@UrbanDIYer

Жыл бұрын

Sub panels require a separate ground bar and neutral bar. But the main panel can have the ground bar and neutral connected. Not sure if it’s required to be connected on the main panel but every electrical wiring video done by an electrician says this.

I love how careful you are! And I love how much detail you have put into labeling your breakers. I am a firm believer in proper labeling for safety and efficiency.

@TheRealWorld737

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

I've been electrician for over 20 years still what I do everyday one thing I will say as far as what the guy told you about the thin Breakers you're better off using the fat ones it makes it idiot-proof because you're guaranteed to hit both phases if you use the small ones for instance if you used circuit one and three you would use the bottom side of circuit one in the topside of Circuit 3 the same way you would use one of those Breakers to get 240 volts hopefully this is helpful

@TheRealWorld737

2 жыл бұрын

Great advice thanks.

It is my understanding that a subpanel has neutral, and ground separated. ,it will still work fine, but I like being consistent with code.

@TheRealWorld737

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Same issue addressed in previous discussions. Please see all comments prior.

Excellent video

@TheRealWorld737

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

It does not look like this question has been directly asked or addressed in your video or the manufacture video but I am wondering if the 20 amp breaker must be dedicated or if it is OK to have it currently in use by another appliance. You did mention piggybacking versus standalone, so I assume it is OK to use a breaker already in use

@TheRealWorld737

Жыл бұрын

The manufacturer recommends a dedicated breaker.

Thanks! So, I don't have to have a dedicated 20 amp fuse? I can add it to a 20 amp fuse that's already being used? Piggy Back?

@TheRealWorld737

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what the manufacturer says. The EMP shield doesn’t draw much at all.

@CapitanFantasma1776

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealWorld737 Just about to install. Thanks!

Will that protect the whole house? Meaning it will protect computers and tvs connected to the grid?

@TheRealWorld737

2 жыл бұрын

everything that is plugged into your house circuits will be protected. Generally, the effects of EMP will vary drastically depending upon it's proximity to you. If you are a distance away, small electronics in your home may survive (in addition, having a metal roof, or other factors can help). But even if the surge comes through the grid and into your home - if those electronics are plugged in and you don't have something to intercept the surge at the panel - they can get fried if plugged in. Best case for protection is in this order: 1. Unplugged & stored inside faraday enclosure; 2. Plugged in and an EMP shield installed in the panel.; 3. Unplugged and not shielded at all. So, worst scenario for electronics would be plugged in, turned on and no EMP protection at all. Now, if you are within a few miles of an EMP detonation, the atmospheric radiation could still fry your electronics if the atmospheric charge was high enough to penetrate the electronics directly. In that case, the grid protection will not save everything. Think of the EMP shield as insurance. But it's not 100% guaranteed in every scenario. Ultimately, to me it's a small price to pay if it works!

If the Grid goes down how will this help if there is no power coming in? Can this be placed on a Whole home generator as well if that was is needed to supply the incoming power?

@TheRealWorld737

2 жыл бұрын

This protects the appliances and equipment that are plugged in - inside your home. It keeps the surge from reaching them. When I spoke to EMP Shield, they told me that small generators would not likely need protection due to the smaller guage and less amount of wiring (that’s debatable in my opinion). However, they said that a whole home generator would need protection (I.e. 10k or larger gens). They do sell the EMP Shield for the larger generators. I have a smaller 7k Gen inside an enclosed shed for sound (see my video). They said that should be fairly protected since it is smaller and I don’t keep it connected all the time. But I have a smaller 3k Gen inside an actual multi-layered and grounded faraday cage which I know should survive (see that video as well). Anything plugged into the grid is susceptible to the surge unless you have an EMP Shield. Some things out in the open (cars,outside appliances,circuits) are even more at risk due to the atmospheric radiation depending on your proximity to the detonation. That’s why I have an EMP Shield on my truck- and keep the motorcycles inside a metal trailer.

@barrysuss4421

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealWorld737 Doesn't the breaker trip before the surge gets to the appliance? My understanding is an EMP goes through the air via magnetic field and will fry everything that is not protected by being enclosed in a faraday type cage.

Pretty close to right but not exactly you have a neutral bar and a ground bar neutral and ground need to be separated as far as the mini wafer Breakers it depends on what position you have them in if you have it in the right position you can still hit both bus bars

@TheRealWorld737

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

How does the two breakers open the circuit. It is not in series with the main breaker ?

@TheRealWorld737

Жыл бұрын

That's not how the EMP Shield works. If you go to their page: www.empshield.com/sporte77 and look at the top of their page, click on "Learn More", then from the drop down menu click on "Frequently Asked Questions". It's all there. You can also see that they have all of their tests posted for "MIL" & "UL" STD from the labs at which they were certified.

READ THIS before COMMENTING: 1. READ ALL PREVIOUS COMMENTS BEFORE YOU TRY TO POST YOURS. ITS POSSIBLY ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED. 2. Comments you submit - that previously address issues or opinions will no longer be accepted for posting - as they have summarized that previous concern. 3. This installation is exactly how the manufacturer has done it in their own video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h2aE0MeJeanQgMY.html However, in their downloadable PDF instructions ( www.empshield.com/installation )- it shows connecting neutral and ground wires on their own separate bars. 4. After communicating with EMP Shield, they stated that for the purposes of the functionality of this device - it does not matter.

install into any 20amp, or new unused 20 amp doubles only

@TheRealWorld737

8 ай бұрын

Unused double

What about coax and phone?

@TheRealWorld737

2 жыл бұрын

After speaking with EMP shield extensively- I believe standard telephone lines would not be a problem because they are very small gauge wire (same thing EMP Shield explained to me about smaller vs larger generators). Coax is larger so maybe?? Not sure. Worst case, it cooks your cable box or router. But in the big picture- we’re more worried about a nuke EMP attack - which we will be far more concerned about our house grid - and appliances.

How much do you charge to install?

@TheRealWorld737

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t install them as a business. This was just a record of how i did my own (not advice or instructional). Hiring a local electrician is your best, safest option.

Is that breaker a tandem 20/20?

@TheRealWorld737

Жыл бұрын

No

Does the neutral and ground have to be connected on the same bus?

@TheRealWorld737

2 жыл бұрын

For liability- I don’t answer install questions. The video was just a record of how I did mine. Contact the manufacturer at www.empshield.com/?coupon=sporte77 for install questions please. This installation is exactly how the manufacturer has done it in their own video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h2aE0MeJeanQgMY.html However, in their downloadable PDF instructions ( www.empshield.com/installation )- it shows connecting neutral and ground wires on their own separate bars. After communicating with EMP Shield, they stated that for the purposes of the functionality of this device - it does not matter.

@ryanlargaespada688

2 жыл бұрын

If the panel has a ground bar the ground will go there if not the ground and neutral will share the same bar

Many have commented. Many are electricians. The NUMBER ONE COMMENT they advise with is this... IF, and only IF, your panel has a separated GROUND BAR with a Dedicated Ground wire - AND has a separate NEUTRAL BAR - then GREEN WIRE goes on GROUND bar & WHITE WIRE goes on NEUTRAL BAR. Despite what the manufacturer says (you can see their video yourself - many are insistent on this and have commented SO MANY times - it's tiresome. So, take it with a grain of salt. No more commenting on the green vs white/ground vs. neutral. Even though none of the commentors really know how the "sub" is wired up and the "main" is wired up behind the wall - they insist.... So this post is here. No more on the subject please.