We EMP Solar Panels, iPhone, PC, & more!
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We tested a few inverters, solar panels, and the Sol-Ark EMP hardened solar generator against radiated and conducted EMPs. We also test what an EMP does to an iPhone and a laptop, the results are surprising!
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I would love to see yall test the emp shield products to show people if they actually work or not before spending money on something that they don't know about
@Sol-Ark
5 күн бұрын
Our EMP products have been tested to military standard 461 for EMI interference on electrical substations (MIL-STD-461) if that helps.
@anthonyclark5471
5 күн бұрын
Yall make the product called emp shield for vehicles?
Just WOW! I did suspect smaller electronics may survive just because they are small, but physical proof is king! Thank you for this.
Man, I can't thank you guys enough. Fantastic tests and scientifically accurate, overkill but even better. Now I know who I am upgrading to.
@Sol-Ark
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We had to make it brief. We would like to do future videos testing unprotected LED flashlights, HAM radio, running portable gas generator, running motorcycle (or whatever people donate). FYI, our solar panel testing results matched 2 other labs (including military tests). Properly protected solar inverters also survive but almost no chance for standard ones.
@jimsnarr7596
5 жыл бұрын
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@richardc.caudill3033
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sol-Ark great video. You said that solar panels will not be affected if they’re not hooked up, will inverters and charge controllers be okay if they’re not hooked up as well?
@SeaJay_Oceans
Жыл бұрын
Are Sol-Ark MADE IN USA ?
@stephensmith777
Жыл бұрын
@@SeaJay_OceansYes, they’re made in the USA. I have a Sol-Ark 12k and it’s been fantastic but wish I had the 15k (it wasn’t out at the time 2 years ago). I also just bought a few EMP Shield devices and installed on my Sol-Ark inverter, battery, and grid panel. It’s a great way to go for protection against EMPs, CMEs, and lighting strikes.
have you tested the EMP Shield device ? I'd be very interested in seeing how it works.
Please test the emp shield device
Absolutely love the video and information you provided - I've been studying this problem quite a bit lately. It's nice to see a company that provides testing data to backup their product specs. Thank you again!
You guys give so much value! I just read your 80+ page PDF and I'm all in. A company that's open to providing this much potent information and is basically open sourcing is an amazing indicator of wanting to be part of the Portable Solar tribe. I've sent an email to connect and figure out what I need to purchase to make this next step in solar energy happen.
Great video and demonstrations, it helps a lot.
Thank you for these very imprtant test results! It will prove useful for my project
Sol-Ark 8K solar generator was independently tested to 100KV/m and hit >140 times. Electronics, solar panels and appliances all survived. Test results www.sol-ark.com/emp-hardened-sol-ark/
Finally some answers! Thank you
Excellent! I have been looking for this kind of information.
FINALLY SOMEONE WIL REAL WOLRD TEST RESULTS!!! is there any chance you guys could test other things like that emp protection box that seems like it’s too good to be true and maybe even test a vehicle that is a mechanical special with rod knock or something so it’s cheaper?
Awesome video!
Thanks for going through the effort for all of this testing! It's quite revealing and informative. Still, not all EMPs are alike. Power level and frequency spectrum also affect results. Very small EMPs can likely survive all of your testing. Very large EMPs will likely *not* survive any of your testing, EMP-hardened or otherwise.
@germanjohn5626
Жыл бұрын
It's not even EMP hardened it's at best hardened for a nearby lightning strike. What they are banking on is 2 things, We hopefully never have an real EMP attack or if an EMP attack happen, people will have far larger problems and tasks to stay alive than going after a company that sold them this system.
Awesome test, thank you very much for sharing! Greetings from the land of ice and snow (middle of Alaska) 😎☕️🥶 QUESTION: how would a delicate circuit like a solar rechargeable LED lantern perform in a CME/EMP Situation?
Awesome stuff, I love the sound it makes!
I think the most important thing is to protect fhe power grid in the house. Basic light, heat/ac, water pumps, fridgerators/stoves sums up whats ACTUALLY important. All other electronics you can live without. In the 90s we lives without cell phones and computers. But we still did have phones to call.
We called them chokes at the phone company. We put them on lots of equipment to counter surges like EMPs. Basically a magnetite toroid around the conductors to intercept the magnetic field pulse that comes with an EMP.
@germanjohn5626
Жыл бұрын
Ferrites are really useless for EMP since they will saturate in a flash and become invisible to the field. It is not the magnetic component you have to worry about but the large E1 voltage and low DC to 500Khz voltage that will go right past a ferrite and destroy the equipment. It will blow out all protection diodes inside the equipment and the 50-100k reverse voltage will destroy the panels. I have been working with cellular and broadcast all my life and see what direct lightning hits can do no matter what we do to protect it. A direct hit is only a small potato in spectrum compared to an EMP produced by a nuke specifically designed for max EMP effect. I would not waste my money on this.
Thank you. Great information.
This is great. I wonder if you change the fuses in the first power inverter if it'll work again
This is my new favorite channel
Amazing info! Thank u!
Extremely informative, thank you
I really love EMP
Man this was great and informative
I've been a tad concerned about EMP causing electronic equipment to fail for years. Thank you for this video. So If I'm right, just unplugging all electronic gadetry from the mains power & in wired connections to one another, should improve the survivability of my gadgets without having to purchase or make multiple Faraday cages.
Amazing video
Bloody awesome, keep these tests coming. More Myth Busting on radiated small devices.
thank, you for you're video.
Thank you!
The Fine shielding Mesh, where can we get that? I have a server rack I am trying to EMP protect along with my Sol-Ark system. This test convinced me to purchase the Solark inverter. I was looking at other inverters on amazon. Thank you.
Thank you :)
I believe systems start at $16K from what I read. High-end gear to protect with high-end results... be proud of your pricing, it was hard to find on your site, or maybe it was just me not looking in the right place. Great warranty! Informative video.... I was researching to see if I needed it for an indoor stored Inergy Kodiak solar generator and sounds like NO and my indoor stored panels should be safe too. You saved me from needlessly spending about $100 minimum in Faraday bag protection. Thank you.
@Sol-Ark
5 жыл бұрын
If all you need is a small system, that’s great. Glad to save you money even if we are not the solution.
@ds525252
5 жыл бұрын
Sol-Ark my system can even be called tiny, when I go bigger I will definitely go with your product👍. Great info.
@ManyHeavens42
2 жыл бұрын
You still need bag protection because it does not shield 100% you can test it by using walkie talkies
This is very interesting! I was wondering if you knew of any scholarly articles I could read surrounding this topic. I was also wondering if an electromagnetic pulse could charge a solar panel.
@KathleenEdge
3 жыл бұрын
This is not a scholarly article, however, the 2018 Lemay Papers are a good start.
Hi, very good video. My worry is that electric household devices connected to the grid will be destroyed by an EMP and possibly might catch fire. So after an EMP: electricity is dead, my electric devices are dead and I better keep a fire extinguisher at hand to prevent the house from burning down. Is my assessment correct?
Sure would like to see a midnite classic coupled with a SPD tested
emp basically overwhelms electrical systems with a spread of radio frequency energy- which builds up within your circuits. it is now possible to buy off the shelf systems, to absorb those signals... and store them as energy, then discharge them safely as voltage. obviously- they've equipped their systems with something similar.
DUDE - you could do a whole series of videos showing EMPs laying waste to inverter cook tops, toys, applicances, HVAC, etc. MANY VIEWS for YOUS!
Cool to see the iPhone survive! How would it compare if the iPhone was plugged in during the test? Would that cause more damage given the long charging cable?
Keep up the good work. I looked at the test report on your website and it is a good radiated test report but I did not see injected testing discussed in that report. Is there another test report that covers this and have you published technical papers on you results?
@Sol-Ark
4 жыл бұрын
We have conducted EMP generators, radiated EMP generators, and lightning generators in house. Conducted is much easier to test than radiated. So we did conducted in house and avoided the 3rd party cost. We will be sending our 12K inverter through 3rd party tests for both radiated and conducted for government approval.
@benmcconnell6008
4 жыл бұрын
@@Sol-Ark Thanks. Let us know the results of those 3rd party tests in the open literature. Again keep up the good work.
@Sol-Ark
4 жыл бұрын
@@benmcconnell6008 We will. American families being less dependent on our grid has always been our primary mission.
So it's good I have a box of older charger blocks in a storage bin box keep the extra ones got it
This protection you speak of, do you have a video of what this is? I saw the cardboard? Does this help?
Last thing ,if it is ,what do you offer to protect existing solar power systems?
What, would happen to the inverter If you didn't power it and instead connected the power wires together? For the RF test
Awesome! What about a portable solar charger w storage? Like the kind sold all over the internet, about cell phone sized. Of course, you spoke of smaller electronics but jw what effect emp would have since the battery its self is larger and connected to a power source, completing the circuit w solar. Seems it'd be okay but also not
@Sol-Ark
5 жыл бұрын
If you will loan us a system, we will be happy to test it.
Very interesting. Would this also apply to something like a Carrington level Solar event.
@Sol-Ark
5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Solar Flares/CME and the EMP E3 pulse are very similar. The protection required for them is quite different from the E1 & E2 pulse. E3/CME requires 10's of miles of wire to couple into. So if you are Off Grid, there is no concern for CME. Sol-Ark 8K provides protection for E1/E2/E3/CME with 6 different technologies.
The solar ark looks awesome, trying to figure out how to protect an entire off grid system. How did you protect the solar panel?
@innercityprepper
Жыл бұрын
I think you can use whole-house ferrites on the incoming cables at the circuit breaker.
@stephensmith777
Жыл бұрын
I just bought 3 EMP Shield devices for my home. One for my main (grid tied) breaker panel, one for my Sol-Ark 12k inverter (PV inputs), and one for my battery (at battery inputs in Sol-Ark).
Wait so even if the phone and laptop chargers are unplugged they won't make it, or if they are plugged in? Or both? Also, if phones and laptops are plugged in would the emp affect them then? I'm also curious about the booster charging devices. 🤔
Have you tested a lipo4 battery? The balancing charge circuit could cause a fire. Might have to emp proof it.
My Morningstar 300 watt true sine wave inverter was fried by a lightening/thunderbolt that hit directly above.
And one other thing - most people I know often leave their laptops and mobile devices plugged into their chargers overnight (or whenever they are low on power) - as well as being physically connected to an internet cable (if unable to get wifi).... won't the wiring result in electrical-surges that will damage the devices/laptops?
You should have made a call on the phone to make sure the radio still worked. And tried out the Wi-Fi too. Those are the parts are designed to catch EM energy after all.
@Nicole-dj3jf
Жыл бұрын
Why?? Nothing will work so why have a phone? Cars won't even work get a bike stock up on water yes bottle water isn't good but it's better then nothing also get food that doesn't need to be cold buy nutrition bars protect your selfs because the people are gonna get crazy welcome to the stone age remember Biden talking about dark winter? Well it's here get ready now doesn't waste time stay calm don't freak out just stock up now take all your money and buy what you need now because money won't matter after the grid goes down bless you and the human race we are in for a rude awaking 😢
Is that broadband wire ferrites on those solar panels with the cardboard covering them hmmm
If you touched a car engine that was switched off, with the charged lead, would it damage the engine? Thanks.
Its good to know we all can still check fb after an EMP.
Thank you for this video. Im look to protect my elektrik and it never be real testet. greetimgs from Gemany
Have you guys tested the effectiveness of the emp shield? They market them as being able to protect panels and inverters
Thanks for this information. Recently I started unplugging my electrical machines and welders when not in use, will this protect these machines?
@antonmoric1469
Жыл бұрын
If you unplug from the rest of the "antenna system" (household and municipal power wiring), then certainly you are greatly lessening the electrical impact on your equipment.
PS - Not trying to be difficult. Your info is great! Just not sure about the issues I raise.... :-)
Are the data specific to your solar device or is this true across all solar power devices?
Can you damage electronic equipment that is switched off ? Thanks
How do the circuits in the batteries survive?
Wow very informative video. But to be specific, does this simulate just emp from lightning strikes, or would all this also hold true for nuclear emp’s detonated in space?
@Sol-Ark
8 ай бұрын
We provide protection against E1, E2, and E3.
Can ferrite beads protect against conducted EMP?
I never keep my charger plugged in when not in use. Will it still be affected by emp even though it’s not connected to the grid?
will a CDV-700 which is stated to be EMP hardened survive?
so.. what will be a decent approach incase of a coronal mass ejection from our sun... if i wrap most of the cabling in my boat in lead sheats (since its a sailingboat probably 90% of it because i am doing it myself but the mast have some meters i cant get away from).. and i cover my solar panels and outboard engine with lead sheats.. and make a faraday cage over my whole boat (except the mast and everything in it) that i can ground in seawater.. diconnect most electronics from eachother (physically, just not just a switch or a fuse) in such a case..
@Sol-Ark
5 жыл бұрын
No need to do a single thing for your boat vs. CME. You are not connected to the Grid with long wires. CME cannot touch you. We just saved you thousands of $$. Enjoy.
If our wiring to a solar panel was in "conduit" would that not protect form "Conductive EMP"
So what if the solar cables aren't connected to the inverter in your home, will it survive?
I thought there was both a short and a long conducted transient in an EMP from a nuclear source and presumably much longer transients in the case of EMPs from CMBs. Will these hardened systems protect against conducted transients on timescales longer than the nano second regime?
@Sol-Ark
5 жыл бұрын
Yes. You have to protect against E1/E2/E3 or you fail. E1 and E3 are the hardest to protect against. That is why we used 6 technologies in Sol-Ark 8K.
Can you update your firmware. You can read tempature on the 12k display in America units. F. Their is no option to change from c
What about keeping a spare inverter and charge controller in a Faraday bag?
So any of the electronics connected to it would still work
What is that cage made from
So what is the effect on the BMS of a lithium iron phosphate battery? It seems these batteries are great for solar systems but would they survive an emp? Perhaps lead acid either flooded or sealed might actually be better simply because they survive, thoughts?
@Sol-Ark
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we have yet to find a BMS that survived EMP. When we were testing, they were all active (MOSFET based) BMS's which died so easily. But there are a few batteries out there (>15KWh) with passive BMS's which are inherently tougher. We have a few of these passive BMS's that we may test in the future. Maybe later this year.
Is this compared to a emp from the sun or a emp from a nuke? Correct me. If I am wrong but isn't a emp from a nuke worse? If so by how much? Anyone know?
What about a massive hours long proton flux? like the Carrington Event
I have a Sol-Ark 8k with a ground mount solar array 175ft from home. I have the suppressors at each panel. So the solar panels are safe with that much PV wire in the ground?
@Sol-Ark
3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
Goad almighty, Americans.. But sure more power to you. If people are preparing for end of civilization scenarios, your power protection measures would be an intelligent thing to include.
What do you test it with? A Marx Pulse Generator?
Would this survive an x flare, though?
Did the laptop turn back on?
so what if you have a solar powered skoolie with starlink thats completely self sustained and not connected to the grid?
What about a battery pack? Like a jackery
Panels are pretty resilliant to EMP. The cells generally will see the pulse as capacitors with the main worry being a common mode pulse from them heading right into your regulator box. The gizmo you are using for radiated EMP is similar to the E3 component, while the pulse generator is either an E1 or E2 simulation. 🤓
@aaronfranklin324
Жыл бұрын
I'm concerned that this demonstration doesn't trully represent the danger to microelectronics from high gigahertz frequency that you might see in a major solar flare or Weaponised EMP. Also Do you think my solar panels are safer directly connected to my LeadAcid battery banks as I much prefer to use them, than with the crap think they are smart charge controllers that throw away 60 to 95% of the power they are capable of supplying, and kill my batteries by refusing to supply the currents and voltages they need to not dendrite and cell balance? I'm assuming that the batteries inertia will stop short duration high voltage and currents and the diode nature of the cells prevent back current. Am I wrong about these matters? It seems pretty obvious that electronic systems are not safe from the inverter failures in the video. And that grid tied systems are absolutely stupid.
@glasslinger
Жыл бұрын
@@aaronfranklin324 EMP will be nanoseconds to microseconds in duration. The average energy is minuscule thus damage will be drastically dependent on exactly how the pulse gets to the components. Long pieces of wire will act as inductances which will integrate the pulse thus reducing its amplitude, finally to where common surge protectors will dissipate them. This is why huge power transformers are for all practical purposes immune. A lot of hysteria over EMP is simply people not understanding basic electronics!
@aaronfranklin324
Жыл бұрын
@@glasslinger Get ya. But the Gamma and X-ray bursts from Major solar superflares, and the radiation belt proton discharges down Magnetic flux pipes to ground that accompany them, of megawatts per square meter over many square kilometres. Those are NOT such short term events. Examples: Tunguska, Green desert glasses, vitrified megaliths. Mojan Dharo, Harappa, high energy particle tracks and U238 transmitted to Pu239 at exposed Granite surfaces at 12900, 26000, and 39000 year geological horizons across East of the Rockies north America, And Western Europe, when previous Magnetic Excursions offset the Earths dipole field Away from the Atlantic, and weakened, as it is now. Those Red picket fence midlattitude Auroras you guys have been enjoying watching are the first warning sign that it's imminent. And Nuclear weapon EMPs as opposed to high explosive ones, they have the short wavelength gamma photon energies that WILL fry electronics.
@arconreef
Жыл бұрын
That's not what the experts are saying. According to a research paper from 2017 (can't post link b/c of yt spam filter) a solar storm of a similar magnitude to the infamous Carrington event could cause up to 66% of the US to lose power. There's much debate about how long it would take to get power back up and running, with estimates running from days to months, depending on how much of the transmission network needed to be replaced. If an outage on that scale lasted more than a week or two, things would get really bad as people ran out of food, water, gas, etc. And the economic damage would be in the trillions.
@aaronfranklin324
Жыл бұрын
@@arconreef You are absolutely correct about this. I read a 2021, 350 page PhD dissertation by an electrical engineer here in New Zealand about the effects on our grid of the two biggest glare events in the last twenty years a couple of weeks ago. Effectively, they caused DC currents in high voltage AC power transmission lines and substation node transformers of similar Amperage to their maximum design capacities. Only about a dozen of hundreds across the US going down will bring the whole lot down Inna cascade. And repair and restarting would take months to years, if it ever could be achieved, with the reliance on grid electric and electronic systems for communication, transportation, and manufacturing and on site repair in the world today, that would also be inoperable. And remember that most parts you'd need to do it are made in China, and they would be putting their own predicament ahead of yours. All I can say, is practice making what you NEED yourself. Get a marine VHF radio for communications, A solar panel, and some twelve volt DC led downlights. A few cigarette lighter USB chargers. Automotive lead acid batteries are quite adequate. If you can get old maintainable ones with top up plugs even better. They will last 25 years, are much more durable than modern batteries, and you can check the charge levels without electronic voltmeters, using a cheap hydrometer. High voltage grid AC stuff is very fragile because it's designed for low current, and is far more likely to produce it. Remember, a Carrington level event is no longer necessary. Our Earths magnetic shield strength is less than half what it was then, and with it offset away from the American and Atlantic sector, your gates wide open. Don't expect Satellite services to survive either. The miniturisation of electronic chip components has made them far more vulnerable than even a decade ago. They will be hit by very large high energy proton, ion and electron fluxes. And very high drag from a puffed y Atmosphere, as Elon found out when he lost all those starlinks in a very minor event. Those midlattitude Aurora's you've been enjoying were only a mild m class event. An X10 would likely have simiy effects today as the ~X30 Carrington and put those Auroras as far south as Florida and Cuba, like it did. And induce far more rocky geomagnetic conditions. And they were far better equipped with the technology then to handle it, than the devolved, disposable, cheap rubbish systems of today.
the subtitle read 'you' when you tested the pv panel. 😂
Is 50k-100k p/meter as high as you test?
So, if a computer, phone and such are not plugged into a charger at the time of EMP blast, they are good. I would think the same for the charging cords if they are not plugged into a power source at the same time. Sound correct? Now, for the real reason I am here. What about a solar powered watch? Does any of this depend on how close the item is to the actual blast site? This has been a big debate, believe it or not. So far, the answers I have found are conflicting. Thanks.
What about a pacemaker?
i don't mean to be rude or anything but i was wondering why was there carboard covering part of the wires on the sol-ark protected solar panel part? with so many videos out there with false or misleading information, i just wanted to point that out and ask.
Interesting
How can you possible test your EMP products against the EMP which could be generated from an extreme nuclear or solar event?
so how does this work in an off grid situation?
How is the video camera not fried?
So is the EMP shield a scam ?what do you think ?
A few things I noticed. 1) the inverters, when tested were in different places. 2) When the solar panels were tested, your brand had cardboard covering the connectors, the other on didn’t. 3) when you tried to reset the inverter, you just pushed the switch off and on, but your brand, you waiting a bit longer to turn back on, possibly giving it more time to reset.
@Sol-Ark
5 жыл бұрын
Please give us some slack. There is no deception here from 2 years ago. We did this for educational purposes and we own 3 EMP generators. In fact we try to dispel some of the fear mongering myths that everything dies from the radiated pulse (the conducted E1/2/3 pulses do most of the damage). And if you have any doubts, the Sol-Ark 8K was 3rd party tested to 100KV/m >140 times. Electronics, solar panels and appliances all survived. Test results www.sol-ark.com/emp-hardened-sol-ark/.
@joeprimal2044
5 жыл бұрын
It's really pretty simple, the cheap inverters have no circuit protection so any spike is going to pop them. You don't really need to test it to know it's gonna go if you put 1kv through it. Secondly, protecting a circuit is not rocket science, all military gear is EMP protected, so it's hardly a stretch to believe that an inverter designed to withstand the pulse does. I have no connection to this company but I am over joyed to see this vid up dispelling some of the nonsence put out by late night TV shows that care only about ratings and not about truth, and my hat is off to them for addressing the need for small home solar equipment that is properly engineered and protected as most preppers don't have the skills needed to do this themselves. And it's far better anyway that the protection circuits be built right into the product then to kluge together something after the fact.
@hendo0068
5 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t slamming anyone, just was curious as to the differences I noticed.
@Sol-Ark
5 жыл бұрын
R H we are not perfect, especially when it comes to cameras. In this case we even had to use a TelePrompTer to help.
@Sol-Ark
5 жыл бұрын
We did test a Magnum inverter and it failed. I disagree that high end inverters will survive. They are not designed to handle an E1 pulse in every input/ouput. And they will not survive the 300s E3 energy. They are only often protected for E2/lightning.
You use light bulbs to show us what circuits are broke by the emp. But, wouldn't the light bulb itself break from an emp?
@BB-gl8em
Жыл бұрын
no, not an incandescent light bulb.....no electronic circuits are involved, same with old flashlights, old car batteries, etc.
How does this compare to 100 miles from a detonation is capable today?
This is great. How much does one of these solar generators cost, and where do we get one?
@Sol-Ark
7 жыл бұрын
Depending on the number of panels, the systems pay for themselves in reduced energy bills. www.portablesolarllc.com
@GeneralPadron
6 жыл бұрын
Sol-Ark You should contact “Energy Freedom Project” and tell them how bad their business practices are.