I absolutely love my Grendel. It's humanly taken every game here in Florida at any yardage that we would see her in Florida

I love both. And you’re absolutely right, they are two completely different cartridges. Anyone that wants to hunt with an AR-15 platform that is also very capable at long-range target shooting should do themselves a favor and build or buy a Grendel.

My 12" John Wayne Rick James only weighs 6.9lbs scoped, suppressed, lit up slung up, and loaded to the tippy-top. Throwing 95g V-MAX pills @ 2658fps and does work on everything it touches. The 6.5G isn't just for memes

Learned alot on this. Much appreciated. Great video.

Good information. Thanks for putting this up.

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@djl5634

Жыл бұрын

@@BulletsNBrass I love ur 6.5grendel videos. Cmmg ha a power bolt(ar10cut down and shortened to fit 6.5) designed for a 6.5grendel maybe u can get ur hands on one. Grendel is my family rifle every brother I have has 1. Keep up the 6.5content.

Thanks. Positive vibes.

The small performance gain from the creedmor over the Grendel is not worth a rifle that weighs 4 more pounds and is much longer.

@ElsinoreRacer

2 жыл бұрын

Except it isn't small. And it's still supersonic past 1500 yds. You ought to shoot one. It's weird because with a brake and gas adjusted down to the cycling minimum(AR), it shoots so light and sweet but with laser ballistics. Scratch head. Doesn't make sense, in a way. But then it's, "Oh, hell yes."

@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElsinoreRacer I have owned both. Again, I made the statement, which means that for me it is a small performance gain. Shoot what you like man, I’ll keep shooting game out of my light 16” rifle.

@djl5634

Жыл бұрын

@@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib me to my 6.5 grendel is my go to cartridge. Cavity back bullets has a 118grn load that does 2560 from a 18 in barrel. Also Sellior @ bellot just started making small rifle primer 6.5grendel ammo. So that's 1 more cartridge available.

@djl5634

Жыл бұрын

@@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib me to my16in chrome pined 6.5 grendel is my go to rifle. Cavity back bullets has a 118grn load that does 2560 from a 18 in barrel. Also Sellior @ bellot just started making small rifle primer 6.5grendel ammo. So that's 1 more cartridge available.

Thank you for explaining this. I had no idea.

interesting take! the Grendel is a completely different use case than the .300 blackout. .300 is not a mid range cartridge and most purchase that caliber now simply because of the subsonic capability with a supressor. even in standard loads, Grendel has a substantial speed benefit and coupled with the BC... speed drop and windage is not impacted as much at longer ranges. Its also important to note Creedmoor wasn't initially intended for the AR platform as it was designed more for precision shooting. I think some mentioned in comments that even the 6.5 creedmoor is no longer the choice for the long range competitive shooters anymore. I do however... love the opinions in your vid. keep them coming!

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, the 6.5CM has since been replaced as the top choice, but let's remember that outside the top ranks of competitors folks move a bit slower and for folks looking to do more with one rifle it's still a really good choice. For the 300blk vs 6.5 Grendel, it's kind of an apples vs pears argument. They're close(ish) for most people inside a few hundred yards when super sonic. Then you have to decide which direction you prefer. Going further out, 6.5 all the way, closer in, and suppressed 300blk. Of course, the correct answer is, "get both". (mostly a general comment and I should probably do a video for this too) Something I've noticed, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, is that the media and a lot of "serious" folks in any given interest area often lose sight of how the average person looks at and uses things. Most people do not have the ability to upgrade constantly or try out the latest and greatest. They rarely have a full selection of options and want to pick things that can cover more situations that they expect to be in. They also tend to not be in the fringe cases that are so exciting for the experts. Most shooters never shoot past a hundred yards. Most, ego and smack talk aside, can't shoot better than MOA off the bench on a good day. Most consider a $1k rifle expensive and cringe when considering a $500 optic to put on that rifle. My channel's for those folks, primarily, so much of what I say and how I present it is outright wrong or useless to the upper echelons of the shooting world. I see the same thing with cars, motorcycles, archery, fishing gear, cameras, computers... It sells media and is exciting, because the average user probably wasn't consuming that media anyway, but it does mean that they sometimes miss the boat on what products will succeed and where they fit in the market.

@Stahlzee

2 жыл бұрын

@@BulletsNBrass for the record, I have the same Bergara HMR in 6.5 creedmoor that you have ;) I love the take ... keep it up!

My personal choice is the creedmoor. I have a muzzle brake on mine and it is low recoil and ridiculously accurate. Even at longer ranges! I'm the only guy in my friends group with the 6.5 Creed and everyone with the 308 is jealous. One of my buddies has the 300 blackout and it can't even compete. Less power less range. If you're torn do yourself a favor and get the Creedmoor

@demitrisolvinski

Жыл бұрын

I've got both and I enjoy shooting the 6.5G more often because it takes effort. Unless you have access to 1k+, the 6.5C is just too easy, it's boring after time. I prefer the challenge and the need to make more adjustments as I move around between 200-600yards with the Grendel. I do hunt with the Creedmoor, though. I prefer easy when it comes to harvesting meat.

Great vid, exactly what I was looking into. Would love to hear or see your thoughts/video bw 6.5 Grendel vs. 300 Blkout! Thanks.

@raging_rhino2582

3 жыл бұрын

Grrrrrrrrrrrrendel! I would think you should be able to get sort of close to the quiet of the 300blk with Grendel handloads... Somebody! Help a brother out? can we make the Grendel go pffffft! Like the blk?

@williamster2015

3 жыл бұрын

@@raging_rhino2582 I mean it's not hard but the round wasn't made for that. If using a can it changes everything so there's variables to help ya

It has its pros and cons. Grendel is lightweight and less recoil. Creedmoor is a step down in recoil with better performance than 308. I would go with grendel. I don’t shoot a lot beyond 600 yards. It’s up to your preference and uses.

What stock do you have on your rifle?

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

My 6.5 CM has the standard Bergara HMR stock. I haven't seen a need to replace it. I am not a huge fan of the fairly slick surface but that's wearing off as I use it. Scuffs, scrapes and bumps are taking care of it. My biggest pet peeve is that I can't take the bolt out with the cheek rest where I use it.

Good stuff .

Thank you

I am putting together a 6.5 Grendel AR to deer hunt with because I want a lite semiautomatic rifle for hunting.

Yup imma build one now especially at .70 a cartridge I just spent 1.38 per cartridges of 300 AAC sooooooo yeah this one I’d next

Very informative

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it

I believe a lot of people when considering these cartridges either think bolt action vs semi auto or AR configuration. I thought the Grandel would make a good military option as you can use the same platform just replace the aging uppers and get much better barrel life than the Creedmoor.

@raging_rhino2582

3 жыл бұрын

True!

@raging_rhino2582

3 жыл бұрын

True!

@ls4.8frank

3 жыл бұрын

You cannot shoot a 6.5 Grendel through a .223/5.56 bcg or barrel

@terrymcginnis5206

2 жыл бұрын

@@ls4.8frank Generally speaking, when you buy a 6.5 Grendel upper, they include the BCG.

@djl5634

Жыл бұрын

@@ls4.8frank yes but u only have to pull 2 pins and switch the upper and mag. 6.5 grendel is still the most superior cartridge intermediate rifles. Hits like 7.62x39 but further out. . Range and drop like match grade 308. And past 700yds can hit harder than some 308 ammo. It's turns ur 700yd ar15 to a 1050 yd rifle with double or triple the power and energy.

Love the Grendel.... Fantastic cartridge for the AR 15 platform. Why the US Military hasn't adopted it as their standard is a mystery to me!!! Love the round!!

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

Cost. Not the cost of the round itself, but the cost to transition. It's just not worth the cost to the military given the relatively low value put on individual weapons.

I don't subscribe to Creedmoor mythology. I have 264WinMag and 260Remington. Creedmoor is an overdeveloped myth. Grendel, from a platform that size constrained, is a monster. It eclipses my best 77gr MatchKing loads past 400yds with a 100gr fmj

"6.5 gredel is... and this is a 300blk round but it is close" that is like saying "10mm is... and this is a 45acp but it is close"

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

Visually, on the size screen most people are watching on? Yeah, as a comparison to the Creedmoor it's close. Same length, same "style" case. I already addressed this in response to someone else's comment.

I just got an Axis2 (Savage) I bought some custom Gorilla ammo, its my favorite weapon now by far. Flat trajectories, tight groups. Ammo is expensive, but when you shoot at something, you hit it. BTW , anyone know where I can get a bigger magazine? And apparently voting doesn't work anymore.

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

Snyder Magazines. I haven't used theirs but they're basically a commercial version of the hacked together stuff folks were doing for a while.

You know, comparing the 6.5 Creedmoor to the 6.5 Grendel is like comparing the 7.62x39 to the 7.62x54R. The ONLY similarity of the diameter of the bullet. The 6.5 Grendel beats the pants of the 5.56/223 in terms of sheer power and it's not even a little close. It's also effective at MUCH longer ranges. But that's the whole idea of the round in the first place. Shoot from an AR-15 and be a LOT better than the 5.56. But comparing it to the 6.5 Creedmoor is just silly because the two are not even close. If you load a 123gr bullet that is commonly found in the 6.5 Grendel into the 6.5 Creedmoor you get the following result. about 3,050 fps and 2,541 ft-lbs at the muzzle and it won't go subsonic until 1,500 yards and it will still have 305 ft-lbs of energy. However, the useful range for the round for deer hunting is limited by 1,000 ft-lbs of energy at 750 yards. The 6.5 Grendel with the same bullet leaves the barrel at 2,580 fps with 1,818 ft-lbs and doesn't go subsonic until 1,250 yards and has 303 ft-lbs of energy. The useful deer hunting range is limited by having 1,000 ft/lbs of energy and that stops at 400 yards. So with the same bullet the performance difference is already pretty remarkable. However, the 6.5 Grendel can't handle the 143 gr bullets the 6.5 Creedmoor can. With that round the Creedmoor has 2,700 fps and 2,315 ft-lbs at the muzzle and it won't go subsonic until 1,600 yards where it still has 356 ft-lbs of energy. Oddly enough, the heavier bullet, despite having the higher BC, drops below the 1,000 ft-lbs threshold at just 700 yards. If you want to compare the 6.5 Grendel to a common hunting round, then compare it to the 243 Winchester. The 243 Win starts out with about a 100 ft-lb advantage, but they both a hit the 1,000 ft-lb limit at 400 yards and the 6.5 Grendel actually carries more energy after that. They both also go subsonic at 1,250 yards. THAT'S the comparison that should be made.

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

How do I know you didn't watch the whole video? You're absolutely right, which is basically what the video says. You would be amazed how many people don't know the differences though. Even people who are quite experienced with firearms. Heck, there are lots of calibers out there that I don't know, and both of these leave the case length out of their name, making it even easier for someone to not know.

@gsh341

2 жыл бұрын

@@BulletsNBrass I did watch the whole video. I just think it's silly to compare two obviously different rounds. Why not compare 30-30 to a 300 Win Mag? Both are 30 caliber, right? That should be enough, right? I constantly hear idiots at gun stores asking if you can use bullet A in a gun chambered for bullet B and it's getting old. Imagine someone asking if they can use 223 Winchester Super Short Magnum in a rifle chambered for 223 Remington simply because they both have 223 in the name and they're just not understanding the difference.

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I did the video. Because people DO confuse calibers. The fact that it continues to be one of, if not the MOST, popular videos shows that there's plenty of demand for the information. The gun community has this tunnel vision that those of us who actively read, watch and think about firearms, ammo and accessories represent the norm. The sad truth is that most gun owners and potential owners are essentially clueless outside maybe a very small area. For example, I know plenty of people who are literally experts with their 30-30 lever guns. They know their drops out to their effective limit for hunting. They can work that lever fast enough and aim quickly enough to get off a second shot on a deer or hog if they want. But ask them why they use the ammo they use and the answer boils down to, "that's what I started with, it worked, why switch?"

@baddgoat85

2 жыл бұрын

I mean when it really comes down to it, they're both effective as hell. You really think, even though the differences in ballistic numbers in themselves are significant, that at those ranges that one won't do what the other will? I mean if we're talking about competition or the military that's one thing, but for 95% of applications I doubt one over the other will really matter.

Must be single, I love that dining room! 😂

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

LOL I am, actually, but that was the basement reloading/work space. The table was actually my childhood kitchen table though. You made me go back and check the video because I also filmed in what WAS the dining room, slightly rearranged since it never got used that way. These days any videos shot at home are either on the patio/deck or in the front room which is a combination living/dining/office/kitchen. The joys of small apartments, but with housing prices the way they are I wasn't buying right now and don't need the space. It's just more to take care of.

@isaactrujillo76

3 жыл бұрын

@@BulletsNBrass that’s cool it’s the childhood table. I hear ya man, times are crazy expensive!

Great video i really like how you explain ballistics in an approachable and easy to grasp way. A lot of videos on here are ex mil or smiths/engineer industry types that use a ton of jargon/ techspeak that make it confusing for just ur average joe to get. (Technical terms are vital to communicating precise aspects and ideas about very specific and meaningful parameters. They do not however relay concepts to people trying to learn new things or expand their understanding, and on youtube they're mostly used to give the impression someone isbmore intelligent than they truly are and big fancy words cause ego erections) not sure what u do but u would be a great teacher. I also respect how u dont make it all political. Im most definitely a liberal (surpisingly were not all aenemic whiney little nerds that think big bad bully cons. with guns are going to cause the apocalypse, most liberals i know hate all the same things about dems politicians as those on the right do) but i have respect for and share some of the same concerns and values of those on the right. That being said theres nothing that makes me shut down a video quivker than someone going off on some conspiracy driven tirade fearmongering rant about the end of america and resistance of all those who dont share ideology because theyre the downfall of humanity and the reason behind human suffering and blah blah. u tell people to educate themselves and vote which is something I couldnt possibly agree more with. Adding your channel with a thumbs up for the video along with a quick question. Im mostly interested in target shooting but a few friends have been talkin to me about hunting. 6.5 grendel totally converted me to a believer after trying out my buddys compareed to 556 and 762. The flatness and recoil of 6.5 like was experiencing enlightenment compareably but im curious how u feel about it as a hunting round (white tail/mule nothing too crazy or large im a bigginer) Ive seen a few in bolt action even tho i come across ar style semi most often, how much more accurrate u think one would be over the other?

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

First, thank you for the compliments. I tend to agree that getting overly technical just loses most people's interest fast. I CAN get into all that, but it's not what the channel is about so I try to reduce things to what matters in general use rather than people pushing boundaries. Knowing the fine details of a particular round's ballistic path out of a particular rifle isn't going to matter to 90% of the audience, and that 10% probably won't believe someone else's numbers anyway. They'll always have "but, what..." "did you.." "what about" and so on. Power to them, that's how science works and advancements happen, but it doesn't help the average shooter learn. For hunting, I think it won't matter other than legal issues. You can get into weight, ergonomics and potential accuracy, but you can do the same thing between different bolt actions and different AR platforms. Anyone trying to argue that a premium AR in 6.5 Grendel isn't accurate enough for hunting is trying to sell you something. Likewise, anyone telling you that you can't do just fine with any of the many great bolt actions is full of it too. Personally, for something like deer, I'd rather a bolt action. I'd also prefer one as light and ergonomic as I can get. For predators or hogs, semi auto all the way. If you're in a state that allows it, suppressed for hunting is excellent as well. The beauty of the 6.5 Grendel is that you really can get some light weight and fast handling rifles. If you go with an AR platform for it you can easily swap out between different tasks even if you are just changing grips and stocks to go from sitting up predator hunting to prone target shooting to deer stand work...

Okay great vid... We agree, I do love my Grendel...mostly because I get my lightweight platform with damn decent ballistics out to just about any distance I'd care to punch a Deer or brain shots on a "zombie horde" from either of my 12.5" or 18" barrels... Fantastic solution

I’ll keep my 264 LBC. Which I had built by Les Baer Custom.

@williamster2015

3 жыл бұрын

That's a 6.5 Grendel using a 7.62x39 head diameter instead of the .220 Russian giving much confusion hints why we need type 1& 2. This happened so Alexander Arms couldn't sue.

How it goes is How can we make something better without exponentially changing the cost to produce it? Realistically though they want to match/lower the cost to produce while increasing the performance.

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Well explained Thanks 👍👍👍

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I have both but! my grendel is a sbr and I use it when I trying to something thats under a 150 pounds within 200 yards, and my 6.5 creed-moor is used 200 yard plus, to kill a animal thats 150 plus.

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you can answer a question for me. What was the thing about SBR 6.5 Grendels? It seems like that was really popular for a while, at least among the 6.5 grendel crowd at the time. I never understood it but I also wasn't really paying attention to it. Was it just that even as an SBR it was better performance than a normal length 5.56? I have to imagine the fireball is pretty impressive unless suppressed.

@anthonymurphy2540

2 жыл бұрын

@@BulletsNBrass , for me, I shoot every gun suppressed, I really like the 6.5 mm 123 grain bullet traveling 2500 fps out of a 11 inch barrel, but I do have a 300 blkout with an 10inch barrel that I like too. My fav 300 blkout bullet is the Lehigh defense is 120 bullet control chaos.

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. I missed that time period for 6.5 and then went 300blk for the trifecta of suppressed sbr shooting subsonics. The bonus of doing well with supers just rounded it off. For me it was very much a "that's just too much fun to not have" kinda thing rather than a practical need that might have pushed me toward the 6.5 option at the time. Now, I have to balance the cost and hassle of yet another caliber with the benefits of the grendel. So far, it just hasn't made the leap from "I want that." to "I'm buying one." I have borrowed a few over the years and really liked them, but it fills a niche that I don't actually need, no matter how much I like the idea.

@anthonymurphy2540

2 жыл бұрын

@@BulletsNBrass a lot of you-tubers were having great success killing hogs with that round so went for it.

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

Darn KZreadrs, what do we know? lol

300 Blackout has it's role. To me it is an under powered round. I own a 300 Black Out..300 Whisper same thing.

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly, in sub sonic, it's a wimp. It is basically an overly long SMG round with better ballistics at that point. But in super sonic it's a nice intermediate step. But I'll be the first to admit, I built mine because I wanted something that worked really well in a short barrel AR with a suppressor and down range results were totally secondary to the fun factor. Which is funny because that same setup, but with supers, is my HD setup now.

You got a thumbs down for saying 300 blackout was close to 6.5 Grendel in appearance. If your eyes are that bad, don't shoot and relinquish your drivers license.

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

Compared to 5.56 or 308... Side by side no one is going to mistake them, and obviously 6.5 has a real shoulder unlike that bump on 300blk, but they're both short cases with long bullets. But hey, if that's what you wanna worry about... Just don't forget to take the time to put in a comment on the ATF's proposal as well.

Creedmoor is a serious long range competitor, Grendel not so much.

That 6.5 Creedmore will make a hogs legs disappear...... Lls

@LIONTAMER3D

3 жыл бұрын

it's the best cartridge out there, bar none

Average 300fps slower and only 6 more inches of drop at400yds shooting the same 120G bullet!! I will take the lighter more efficient grendel any day. But if ur saying power is everything then drop the creedmoor all together there’s several 6.5 long action rounds out there the walk all over the creedmoor.

2:34 thud

@nucleardischarge5379

3 жыл бұрын

2:35 freeze frame oh fuck

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

lol Nah, takes a pretty specific hit to make a primer go, and they are slightly recessed so landing on a flat surface wouldn't do it unless you hit so hard the case head crushed. At that point I think it's the least of your worries. I AM impressed with myself though, landing that upright. I don't remember, but I can't imagine it was intentional.

Doggies :))

You seem to know stuff. That makes me think you are seriously undersubscribed. I'll try and help with that, but I get fewer views than you do! LOL. Anyway, I enjoy your content.

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. My problem with subscribers is twofold. I'm not entertaining enough, and I don't keep bugging people to subscribe. I'll probably start including at least the occasional "please hit the thumbs up and subscribe" but it's just not my style. As for entertaining, meh. I'm not here for the laughs and folks like Demo Ranch and The AK Guy are a lot better at it.

@Fudmottin

3 жыл бұрын

@@BulletsNBrass Demo Ranch is too much of a clown for me. I'm not familiar with The AK Guy. I like channels with informative content.

Tough to start out of video making mistakes when you criticize other people for making mistakes. The 6.5 Grendel was not very specific in fact it was the most general. Ask Bill Alexander who created it. It was a do everything cartridge design and it is a do everything that particular well cartridge that I happen to love The 65 Creedmoor was very specific it was designed to excel at the competition Percision rifle.

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

There's a big difference between having a different opinion and fundamental facts being wrong. But you are correct, he intended it to be a superior "do all" round. That isn't what it became in the market place though. While generally an improvement over the 5.56 as a cartridge, as a product it has never really made that leap.

@jdblackwell2873

3 жыл бұрын

@@BulletsNBrass I don't see 6.5 Grendel as an improvement over 5.56 I see them is very different rounds was very different purposes. If you don't think the 6.5 Grendel is a do all around, what role do you think it feels in the marketplace?

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

@@jdblackwell2873 I think it COULD be a do all round, ballistically there is not much reason to choose 5.56 over it. For hunting or longer range shooting it certainly wins. The sticking points are discussed in the video comparing it to 300blk. Primarily, lack of mainstream adoption due to the less simple swap from 5.56. Needing different mags and BCG, along with the fact that both of those items cost more than their 5.56 options have hurt it. I feel that the role it has found itself is that of a sort of niche, sort of mainstream hunting round for AR15's. When you don't need more power than it offers, and want the smaller rifle, it's a good choice. The recent military adoption in several places may help push it into more common use and reduce the prices. Certainly the Wolf ammo helped already and made a certain amount of "fun" shooting not so cost prohibitive.

@crashdsnowman1

Жыл бұрын

Actually Arne Brennen created the cartridge, Bill A just trademarked the name Grendel after Woody at Lothar introduced Bill to Arne.

You lost me at go vote lol

@BulletsNBrass

2 жыл бұрын

You realize it was published a year ago, right? Almost exactly a year ago actually. Most of us hadn't gotten quite as cynical about it yet. lol

I understand the 6.5 comparison info. however the 6.5 Grendal is on a AR10 platform as you stated.....and the undisputed king of that platform.....6.5 Cr

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

6.5 grendel is on the AR15 platform, 6.5CM is on the AR10. In terms of semi auto's that's the big difference, the Grendel fits in the same platform folks already have in huge numbers. The Creedmoor is in the far less common platform. I'm seeing quite a few lately, but I think more folks are still buying AR10's in 308 than 6.5. To each their own, it's not like the 308 doesn't perform just as well as it has since it was introduced.

6.5 grendel if more is needed 308

6.5 Grendel is necked up from .220 Russian 6.5 Creedmoor is necked down from the .308 Win At 1,100 yards my 6.5 Grendel is pushing a 144gr FMJBT at just over 1300 fps with 520 ftlb 6.5 Grendel vs 6.5 Creedmoor is apple's to orange's. You have an intermediate cartridge and a fullsize cartridge (may I add that intermediate cartridge can out preform the .308win at long range) If you want to compare the 6.5 Creedmoor to a cartridge that's also in the same category that would be 6.5 PRC vs 6.5 Creedmoor

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009

3 жыл бұрын

6.5 Creedmoor parent case is a .30 Thompson...30TC.

@williamster2015

3 жыл бұрын

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 .30T/C sends a 165gr .308 at 2,800 fps....Like that hasn't been seen before. Its not like 7.92x57 performance of 3,052 fps and 3,019 ftlb of energy from a 200 grain bullet. If you want to see performance from a .308 casing look at. 375 Raptor

@demitrisolvinski

Жыл бұрын

How the hell did you get a 144gr pill going that fast? What barrel length/twist rate??

So another obviously biased comparison between a 6.5 Grendel and a 6.5 Creedmoor. You don't own a Grendel and did not accurately even relate the specs of the round say at 1k yards either. The main fact being that you didn't even have a 6.5 Grendel cartridge in hand. And sorry, but a 6.5 Grendel will in fact not shoot through a standard AR15 without a BCG and barrel swap. What kind of bullshit exactly are you feeding people? Did you just see a video because someone to you inaccurately described your beloved 6.5 Creedmoor that cost you twice as much to build, packs a lot more recoil and is not as easy to shoot in smaller or shorter barrel lengths? The Pros and Cons of the two are far outweighed with the Grendel coming out on top, sorry to bust your bubble fella.

SOCOM has replaced everything but pistol rounds with 6.5 Creedmoor

@BulletsNBrass

3 жыл бұрын

Source? I haven't seen anything about that. I've seen some 6.8 being adopted. Some 6.5 in both types. There's even the push to go polymer cased on as much of it as the manufacturers can figure out, to save weight. The only major 6.5 CM switch I saw was for SOCOM's sniper rifles. The 7.62 rifles got redone to 6.5CM, but that's ONLY for the snipers from what I've seen.

You lost all credibility as soon as you held up a 300 blackout. The fact you don't even own a 6.5 grendel!

@nando03012009

3 жыл бұрын

And lost all credibility by not paying attention. He clearly stated he was picking up a 300 blackout. He also stated he doesn't own a 6.5 Grendel and was using the 300 blackout for comparison much like 223 and 556 are compared to each other

You pretend you didn't drop the round and it landed perfectly upright? Lol

@BulletsNBrass

Жыл бұрын

I don't remember, but I'm betting it's one of two things. It made enough noise it was an issue or I thought it would be an issue and restarted what I was saying. OR, I said something that needed edited out to reduce the chances of YT complaining. The magic of video editing. lol.

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