Great Reviews of both 111 & 116 Chiefs! I'll be visiting my local dealership for a test ride ASAP after watching this! 2022 Indian Chief Dark Horse 116 = Dream Bike!

@FranBunnyFFXII

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you really super love the style, I'd suggest rather save 1200 bucks and get the Street Bob 114 ABS, or upgrade a bit to an LRS and get inverted forks, dual disk brakes, a more powerful engine and that super nice monoshock frame. Stage 1 on the 114 softail is waaaaay cheaper than the chiefs too if you wanna upgrade. You gotta spend 1500$ at least to get stage 1 and that doesn't seem to include the tune at the dealer. I'd rather slap down the extra 1000 and get the LRS, or save me 1200$ and get FXBBS and get access to that huge library of aftermarket parts.

My brother just bought a new Indian Chieftain Dark Horse and loves it. Good review man. Thanks...

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I love the Chieftain. I have a Softail right now but im convinced that when I go bagger, it'll be the Chieftain.

Finally a “Real” short guy like myself to give me the info I need. Thank You

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Heath, glad I could help. Hit me with any questions anytime. Be safe brother.

@oletimer5853

3 жыл бұрын

Me too ... and I did the beard too

@Lonewolf23-26

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster what is your height I must have missed you saying it?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lonewolf23-26 5' 5"

@Lonewolf23-26

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster oh ok I’m only and inch taller, I own an 19 scout bobber and love the position and fit for me when I sat on pretty much the same 116 you rode felt the same other than I didn’t enjoy and don’t usually the ape hangers

Very well done young man. Very thorough. You answered a lot of questions. Subbed.

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Julio!

@travelinman482

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster The "pulling to the right” has nothing to do with the bike itself. Like most bikes, the tires will sink inline with the grooves of the road.

My left ear really liked this video.

The X means rear cylinder deactivation when stopped

Awesome bike!!

Very nice review, looking forward to my 116 Dark Horse test ride once the weather breaks here in Jersey.

I see Memphis Shades putting out an awesome fairing package for these. Very optimistic about the Chief.

@1twistedcpl6575

3 жыл бұрын

the unlimited is fully loaded

I think you could scroll left and right through that screen from the handlebars as well from what I seen earlier.

Good riding style

Stopped by Dean Speed last week to talk parts! Can’t wait to get my order in and spicing up my Chief! On my list is your Titus bars, front HW bars, and sissy bar with custom emblem!

I’ve got one of the 111 2022s and I love it!

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

I work for a custom motorcycle parts shop and we just bought a 22 111 Bobber so we can start making parts for it

@Mario456SS

Жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster is it a lot of work to put a flatter handlebar like on the Scout Bobber? I really like the chiefs but the layout of the Scout..

@aztriumphster

Жыл бұрын

@@Mario456SS it'd be more work than doing a handlebar install on a Scout. The chief has all the control wires run internally.

I’m around 5’7” and I’m a bit leaned forward more than I like. What do you recommend handlebar wise that can help me keep my back more straight ? I have a 23 bobber 111. Also what parts do you offer that you personally like and would add ? Very interested !

Great stuff man! I’m a fan of Dean Speed’s work and looking my forward to what you guys create. I also have short inseam, you mentioned you can flat foot it but can’t under certain pre-loads. Can you clarify?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

When the bike was on a slight incline, I could flat foot it. Probably because the weight was shifted more toward the rear and loaded the shocks more.

@russelrides3218

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster awesome thanks for clarifying. Did you get to test ride the regular Chief or Dark Horse?

My left ear really enjoyed your video lol

good bike , biking and traveling with the group is interesting and fun and adventure . Happy ride friend.

How does the power n speed between the 111 vs the 116 differ? Does the 111 have some get up n go?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Mike, the 111 does move. I think anyone would be happy with the 111 especially if it has aftermarket mufflers. The 116 is noticeably more powerful throughout the rpm range, but especially at the low end. Pipes would open both up more.

In the future is it possible to fix the audio so it isn't just coming out of one side?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely on the plan. Gotta get a better camera. Soon.

@Grandmasterjord

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster Audio quality is more important than a better camera. Unless you’re saying it’s because of the camera. Haha Then it makes sense.

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

@@Grandmasterjord yup, its the camera.

Why does the new Chief just look like a Dollar Tree Scout tho

Very nice powerful, smooth bike with good brakes. Easy to adjust on the move. Big question is will you keep the Slim?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

I love my Slim. No plans to change things up yet.

I was gonna go test these out in Peoria last weekend but had to work, this helps a little 😂

That cable tie was annoying me on the 116 bars lol! Nice bike for sure

@robbs8166

3 жыл бұрын

You mean the key fob zip tied to the bars, so the bikecould start. I put the first 8mi on that bike a week before and they were having problems w/ the fob staying connect to the bike

@HabitualFixation

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbs8166 aaaah now that makes sense 😂

How's the heat from the engine? I noticed you guys riding in relatively cool weather..I wonder if the heat will be unbearable during the summer season..

@aztriumphster

2 жыл бұрын

I work for Dean Speed and we have a 111 Bobber that I've been riding around and shooting footage on here in August. As for heat from the engine, its not any worse than any other V twin cruiser I've ridden in the summer.

Shout out to Dean Speed, love the rampage on my Scout. I wish I would’ve gone this past weekend to Indian Peoria. Great review, looks a bit too “Harley” for me personally, but I’m glad there are better options without jumping to a bagger. Hopefully the next Gen scout gets some of those features.

@hectortobias8840

2 жыл бұрын

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@urielcohen5221

2 жыл бұрын

@Hector Tobias Instablaster ;)

@hectortobias8840

2 жыл бұрын

@Uriel Cohen i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm trying it out now. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.

@hectortobias8840

2 жыл бұрын

@Uriel Cohen It worked and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy! Thanks so much, you saved my account :D

@urielcohen5221

2 жыл бұрын

@Hector Tobias Glad I could help :D

Comparison to the Softail Slim? Was looking into one of those?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Big differences are the softail has more fuel capacity and floor boards. The indian has different ride modes and the Darkhorse has that LCD touch screen display with navigation and blue tooth

@HabitualFixation

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster Thank you. I already know the specs. Was more of a how they feel underneath you on the road :)

Nyzz video bro

Tennis shoes?

What's with your voice? Vibrations from engine, or from the road?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Road

Why is that speedometer analog?? I thought these things have the touch display

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

The 116 does. Its in the video

@beausbargarage6213

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster the 111 doesn’t have it? I thought they said it was standard? I ordered a dark horse in jade. Will see. See you around the desert 🐪 I’m sure. Cheers

would this be equal to a scout if you were to go 500 miles in a day? or more comfortable?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely more comfortable and less fatigue

@tiberiumsunwars1487

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster yea the scout wears you out just going to the bar down the street.

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

@@tiberiumsunwars1487 I have had several bikes around the 500 lb range with anywhere from a 900cc motor up to a 1200 cc motor and it wasn't till I hopped on my 650 lb 107cu in Softail that I realized what I was missing. It is virtually unaffected by head and cross winds offering a much more enjoyable ride. Plus it doesn't feel like I'm asking everything its got to pass a semi on the interstate.

If you only had one to choose from and not considering sticker price, would you take the Chief 116 or the Slim?

@aztriumphster

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I was gonna say that's a tough one but now that I'm on a 114 Fat Bob, I would have to say I would go for the 116 over the Slim

@RunCMDmoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster I battled for months between a Scout, a Chief and other options, but ended up with a 2020 Slim since I had a lot more options for dealers and aftermarket parts. Honestly, the comparison vid you did on the slim vs fat boy got me lusting over the slim with billiard burgundy and I ended finding one with that same exact color. My weird journey: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXurqtaHlNqxoc4.html

@aztriumphster

2 жыл бұрын

@@RunCMDmoto I will check that video out when I get home tonight in a couple hours. U mentioning the billiard burgundy Slim got me missing mine. U r absolutely right about the support network that exists for Harley vs other manufacturers.

@RunCMDmoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster Yeah actually in the vid I think I mentioned this, but with my only Indian dealer in town not having any Chiefs for me to test ride, got me looking at Harleys. And to me, engine alone wasn’t enough to choose one bike over the other. Even the 107 engine was good enough for me if the bike overall checked most boxes and felt right. Super happy with the Slim so far but can’t help to think what “could’ve been” with the Chief 👀😉 Thanks for the vid BTW. Good perspective coming from a former Slim owner.

Awesome review mate! Could you possibly review the Chief Dark Horse as well please. Thanks again & well done!

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I rode the 111 and the 116 in this video. Is the 116 not the dark horse?

@laurieespi4828

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, indeed. Thanks again and keep it up!

Subbed because we have the same height. Lol.

Which bike would be better for tall riders?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Nathan, between which 2 bikes? Or all bikes?

@therealnatevp

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster between the 2

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealnatevp I'd say it should come down to how much the rider weighs. The heavier u r, the more power u would want to offset that. I weight about 160 lbs and my 107ci harley is plenty for me. As far as height, a taller rider is going to want taller bars for sure.

@therealnatevp

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster dark horse bobber it is

This one didn’t have the new screen with Nav, etc? They made it look like it was standard in the commercials. Edit: ok after watching the rest of the video, lol, and reading up on the website, I believe the touchscreen only come on the 116 equipped models.

@FranBunnyFFXII

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Indian has had some sneaky ad practices in the last few years. Last year they lowered the display MSRP price of their FTR and put an astrisk below it saying "after 1500$ charge" They've been putting unverified crank HP numbers on their website too, when no smart person will refer to a crank HP number. Only suckers fall for that. I remember them advertising the FTR with that custom one for 11 months and then bait and switched us with that weird wanna be ducati naked instead. Now this year it's sneakily pretending all the chiefs have that TFT screen conveniently not mentioning you need to buy a 116 to get the system. Indian's gotten more expensive and sneaky over these years.

@dgross2009

3 жыл бұрын

I believe the second bike reviewed was the Dark Horse Bobber. The list price for that is $19,000. The Harley low rider s with a 5 gallon tank and duel front brakes is a much better value IMO

@FranBunnyFFXII

3 жыл бұрын

@@dgross2009 Yup, it's got the fork covers and TFT screen which means Dark Horse Bobber. LRS is a way better bike, 1000$ less for way more bike. It has a silver heatshield on it though. Thats not supposed to be there. The website shows it blacked out.

@mlanky2023rgl

3 жыл бұрын

@@dgross2009 honestly, I think you’re right

Hey mate ! Indian is stepping up its game obviously ! Sorry to hijack a little bit, but it seems I cannot reach DeanSpeedCustoms by mail to have infos on the Softail turn signal relocation kit. Is the mail broken or something ?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Are you sending correspondence to contact@dean-speed.com ?

@simonhouel1984

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster Aaah that seems to be the problem. The online contact form fails everytime I try and I found a mail but it is : service@dean-speed.com

@simonhouel1984

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster I'll try the mail you gave me. Thanks mate !

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

@@simonhouel1984 for sure! I will be in tomorrow and I will respond asap.

@simonhouel1984

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster It's done. No problem. It's just to know the lenght of the threaded side that goes into the triple tree on the blinker relocation kit. See, I want to put it on a Heritage Classic but it needs to be long enough to go through the windshield rubber mounts. And if it doesn't, maybe see if I can put a custom order. But you'll tell me by email in due time. I don't want to hijack the video any longer :-) Thank you !

Finally found somebody my height to ride this thing. Lol. I didn’t exactly fit on the challenger or Springfield since it has fwd controls. Was hoping that the new chief would fit me better. How is the reach to foot controls and what is you inseam?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't give shifting or braking a second thought so it musta been a good fit. About a 30" inseam

@mechcam796

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster crap I’m only got a 27” inseam so it might still be a reach for me. Thx for the reply. I guess I will have to go sit on one to see.

@kobenizer7428

3 жыл бұрын

@@mechcam796 were you able to go sit on one and see? i too have a 27 inseam and wanted to see if itll be reach as well. The closest dealer is quite a drive away to just stop by. Thanks in advance!

@mechcam796

3 жыл бұрын

@@kobenizer7428 no I didn’t but I sat on my buddies Indian chief Springfield which has fwd controls and I had no problems reaching everything. The new chief has controls back further so it shouldn’t be a problem. Hope that helps.

Bro....the green one looks more fabulous.. like some war.... machine's....

Nice ride and analysis. I am considering getting a smaller bike for commuting. I am 6' 5" and 280 lbs but only have a 32 inseam. This bike might work. I looked at a Scout, but way to small for me. Thanks!

Probably a dumb question, but I'm new to riding......what about downshifting?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

What do you want to know?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Btw it's not a dumb question

@mikedilorenzo7884

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster I see alot of people not downshifting. Is it just as easy to slow down without doing that?

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikedilorenzo7884 I rev match as I slow down then apply the brakes later. Its a good tactic as u will be in the correct gear as u decelerate, if u need to get back on the gas. Imagine u leav the bike in 5th and plan to down shift after u stop, then the light turns green before u stop.or have a chance to down shift. Doing 20mph and trying to accelerate in 5th gear is not good for the bike.

@mikedilorenzo7884

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster ok thanks. Guess I have alot to learn. After I get my endorsement, I'm going to take some bikes out for a test ride, but I REALLY think it's going to be the chief, and I'm totally in love with that ruby smoke color! Think I'll be picking your brain as I go if that's ok with you?

Resonation? How about resonance.

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Tough to tell with stock mufflers but we slapped some 2.5" Dean Dpeed Rampage on it the other day and it sounded phenomenal. One remaining problem is the catalytic converter is part of the head pipe

Did they down size this new Indian Chief it looks smaller than the previous Chief.

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah its a little trimmed down

You did not read up on the new screen before the ride

@pconrz

3 жыл бұрын

But bro he's got the plugs in his ear, doesn't super cool supersede actual content?

This looks pretty cool and a pretty nice bike. looks like a Dyna Street Bob with dyna Lowrider S exhaust. But after seeing the prices compared to what I could get for a softail, I'd have to get the softail instead. I'd say if all of those bikes had that TFT screen, and ABS stock... or perhaps dual disc front end stock, I'd be considering the cheapest one. I can't help but notice those huge control module blocks on the bars, they look sooo goofy. There is no good reason for them to be that freakin big and blocky. Even more so knowing that the blinker is only on one side. There's still that indian throttle delay? That happens on the old chiefs, FTR, and Challenger too. Why havent they fixed that? My current electric does that delay throttle stuff and I dont like it. Indian should really fix that, there's no reason to have a delay like that, especially in sport mode. The bike didnt seem to want to pick up speed too much, do you think it's just the stock airbox+exhaust that's making in that way? Or is the 111 kinda weak? Or maybe im used to watching Blockhead's 131 LRS take off like a rocket, haha. But everytime you rolled on that throttle it just looked like it was chugging, and then it let off so quickly. The 116 looks a little better but it doesn't look to much better. Do you feel it pull noticably harder in the butt dyno region? The bike wants to pull to the right? Do any of the softails do that? I don't think ive ever heard anyone say that about any of the softails. I'm less interested now tbh. This looks cool but that throttle delay, and super short power band, and gutless looking roll on doesn't sell me on it.

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah there is a noticeable throttle delay. The 111 wasn't weak but the 116 was definitely more powderfull through the rev range. The stock air cleaner and especially the mufflers are very restricted not allowing the bikes potential to surface. Im betting a tune would help dial out the throttle delay. My vic octane pulled to the right until I went with a much lighter full system exhaust. The Chief is right side heavy and the softails are left side heavy due to the case.

111

So much to say about "that" ride...... Ride Leader was real soft on getting onto the 101 & yes wasn't happy with going 60mph on the 101.

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

Robb were you on the same demo ride as I was?

@robbs8166

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster first ride brother n I were in front of you

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbs8166 really!? On the Challenger?

@robbs8166

3 жыл бұрын

@@aztriumphster Springfield and Challenger

@aztriumphster

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbs8166 awesome! Pleasure to have shared the road with u. Sorry I was creepin up on ur rear wheel so much. When the camera is on im in my own little world.

Not as pretty as the Billiard Blue Slim. Shame they didn't make the Chief a monoshock for a cleaner look/better ride.

@aztriumphster

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

Is it me or does the switch gear look gigantic? Looks like something off a play skool toy motorcycle. That start button look like they took it off a vacuum cleaner. Come on...

Meh, I take Low Rider all day long over this. Just plain better bike for same $$

@sasca854

3 жыл бұрын

Better how?

Color green does not do it for me. Harley offers the same green. It’s an ICE motor, no green! Lol

So......Indian comes out with a nice bike that only needs the replacement of the bars, seat, exhaust....etc....is way too wide to be comfortably rideable...plus costs a boatload of cash....plus I do not want "ride mode" "cruise control" and all of the destined to fail but impossible to owner diagnose electronic bits. In the final analysis.....I remain happier with my old Evo

Where is the sound?? No thanks...

Ugly Motorcycle

Just buy a Harley!

@fatoni698

3 жыл бұрын

"Just spend more for something that's worse!"

@theginge9426

2 жыл бұрын

Had a 2020 Harley Fat Bob. Loved the bike, but for what you get with the Indian for the same price the Indian is the better choice hands down. The tech, built in cruise control, bigger motor, mini apes stock, different riding modes, nav, Bluetooth capabilities. Harley milks those addons for money which is why Harley is trash.