Chief Dark horse models come with the 116 and the digital gauge, the regular models have the 111 and the analog speedometer with a small digital screen. Looks like you're riding the Bobber which is forward controls and wire wheels. The base Chief is mag wheels with mid controls and the Super Chief comes with floorboards, windscreen, and bags. I have the Bobber Dark Horse and it's my absolute favorite bike I've ever had. That being said the stock exhaust and seat leave a lot to be desired.

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

Super helpful info. I'm going to pin this comment at the top if that's cool? They had the Super Chief and I didn't ride it because of time. I really should have so I could compare it to HD's Heritage Softail. My test ride was too short to notice the seat but I can see it not getting the job done on longer rides. This was my first experience riding any Indian models. I love that FTR Carbon but it seems like a play bike and for 17k it's just too out of reach for me.

@mrsandiegovlogs

2 жыл бұрын

He’s definitely on a chief bobber dark horse. Can tell by the digital screen. I have the chief bobber. With the analog and the 111 honestly for most people 111 is more than enough bikes. I feel the 116 is for the person who rides aggressive and is looking to overtake people always. Both amazing bikes and I will eventually upgrade to the 116. And tech tip both the 111 and 116 have selectable ride modes no matter the display. Something to keep in mind

@MirdenLayra

9 ай бұрын

@@mrsandiegovlogs @JaysonBucy the chief bobber has been reliable? I'm between the low rider s and the chief bobber (not the dark horse version) What I like about the low rider s is the lack of technology, not touch screens etc, pure motorcycle, while the chief bobber dark horse has even maps, bluetooth and stuff (I dont like that), and in the chief bobber I saw that it doesn't have the touch screen, just an analog screen, but I'm not sure if it has ride modes too, I wish not. But I wanted to know between these bikes, which one could be more reliable and having confidence that it is a war machine and not one made of glass Ride safe brothers, I'll appreciate a lot if someone can guide me in the correct path, don't want to buy a motorcycle only for it looks, I want an iron horse that I can trust in

@SwagSo7fly7

8 ай бұрын

@@MirdenLayraall the Chiefs have the ride mods

@MirdenLayra

8 ай бұрын

@SwagSo7fly7 thanks for your answer

You don’t need a dealership network when the bike isn’t breaking down much lol

@Txcowboy80

9 ай бұрын

Exactly, all these HD guys need that comfort of having a shop nearby. lol

@Curious_Skeptic

3 ай бұрын

@@Txcowboy80 LOL. Great point! :)

Have owned 4 softail Harley's and a sportster when the chief came out I got 1 , my mates have Harley's that they've spent $1000s on engine work to boost HP and my chief keeps up with them no problem, chief handles better , looks the part , definitely more iconic and not every banker and try hard has got one , without a doubt best bike I've ever owned and wouldn't go back to HD if you paid me

@SwagSo7fly7

8 ай бұрын

Yea he’s the first person I’ve ever said would choose the street bob low rider s over the chief

Blair, you should ride that bike in Sport Mode.....it's a whole different animal! The amount of power and response out of that 116 is incredible. Those group test rides aren't going to let you really get a feel for a bike or ride it like you want. I've had a Chief Dark Horse since May and have over 3600 miles on it so far. It's the absolute best bike I've ever owned. I was eying Lowrider S for the longest time, but then the Chief came out and I instantly pre-ordered one. No regrets.

@mrsandiegovlogs

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah your right. The more you ride the bike the better. Especially when you do an exhaust. I have a muffler delete. But I’m putting the shorty tips with the baffles soon. Once I get the air upgrade I’ll get a tune

The lack of dealership network and aftermarket are big deals for me, BUT I think Indian is getting on the right track. I like some of their bikes they have come out with and I like to see an American company that's going for it and giving us consumers a choice.

Thanks for your honest review. Very interesting video. Thanks for the virtual test ride!

Ford F-150 vs Chevy Silverado. I don't see a deal breaker between Indian Chief's and comparable HD models. Indian better tech and HD better paint and finish. They are so very close. I guess it comes down to the bike that after your ride and walk away you look back to take a second long look.

@thanosetsitty1896

2 жыл бұрын

AMEN! Exactly

@PotatoeJoe69

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree on Harley having better paint and finish. Paint is equal in quality but they use different paint styles. As for finish... my 2020 Softail Standard, with 3,700 miles on it, which I take care of better than myself, has rust starting on the top of the jiffy stand, the paint on the swingarm can be nicked with a finger nail, and the spokes are rusted to fuck. Shitty chrome job. Also, the right rear running light filament is burned out of the bulb. I say running light as it's the light that's always on; the blinker/brake filament is fine. So at night time it looks like I have one tail light. I love my Harley. But Indian makes a better finished bike IMHO.

@codymitchell5397

Жыл бұрын

@@PotatoeJoe69 do you live in a more humid area?

Best of both worlds here. I kept my Twin Cam Road King and have owned a 111 Thunderstroke and now a Challenger 108 liquid cooled. You hit the nail on the head about the Twin Cam. It just feels right. I like both for what they do well. Top of the heap for me, though, is the 1200 Evo in my Sportster for classic Harley feel.

I bought that same bike. Love it. Super smooth and yes quiet in stock form.

I'm wondering if you can compare this to the Softail Slim?

Im in LOVE w the Chief Bobber but i took out a 111, And didnt really POP like I was hopin. I felt it was comfortable but just didnt MOVE. Now… the SCOUT BOBBER? Pure Love😍

I looked at the chief bobber believe it was a 2022 model at the only Indian dealer in my state. Looked great but for the same price I went with the 2021 street bob. More aftermarket parts, big 114, 2 up ready, mid controls, love the looks of the street bob, and one of the most important deal breakers for me is dealership network. There are 4 harley dealerships in my state compared to 1 Indian dealership. Did I mention the stone washed 🤔 white pearl street bob looks 👌 🔥.

That rider ahead of you is so damn annoying! lay off the brakes lol

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha yeah demo rides aren't ideal.

@bobbylee3567

Ай бұрын

That rider sucks!!!!

Would have loved to get your opinion on a chief dark horse with stage two.

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like that would definitely have been a much better experience. However like I said no complaints on the bike as is, but for sure more exciting after a stage 2.

Since HD has an outrageous dealer upcharge on the low rider ST I am ordering the Indian Chief Dark Horse. I own a FXLRS and won’t give that up. So I’m not giving up on Harley. I appreciate you riding the Indian

@jasonp1177

Жыл бұрын

How's the DH treating you?

Excellent production on your video.

Missed this, great vid! Maybe review the new Sport Chief? These sound great with Dean Speed pipes, look em' up!

No way! You did it. Im gonna wait and watch it on my Big Screen w my roommate after work! 🔥

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

Nice vid! What kind of video are you watching?

I enjoyed the review. I hope in the future you get the test out other manufacturers like Triumph, BMW, or Ducati. I'll be interested to hear your opinions coming from a Harley Davidson guy. At any point in the ride did you switch the riders mode? I had a tough time this year picking between a Street Bob and a Indian chief dark horse. I ended up choosing the Indian because of the technology. I like your channel. I look forward to your next video.

@mrsandiegovlogs

2 жыл бұрын

Good choice man. Welcome to the fam. I ride a chief bobber aswell. Dropped a couple videos on it aswell

I applaud the attempt at being objective. The only failure in this review is the same failure that 99% of all cruiser based motorcycle channels have, and that’s the obvious brand bias. It’s never just a “here’s the bike, this is what I think of the bike”. It’s always “here’s an Indian and here’s what I think of it compared to whatever Harley bike I think it’s closest to”. That’s something you rarely ever hear from the sport bike channels. They tend to be more objective about the bike and compare brands less. The reason I have a problem with the constant comparison between Harley and Indian is because they are two completely different machines. People always point out the looks and how they’re similar but fail to recognize the fact that there are only so many different ways you can design a cruiser before it’s no longer a cruiser. And I get the dealership thing but if the aftermarket issue was such a big deal there would be vastly different looking Harleys everywhere but outside of the custom show bikes, there aren’t. Most people buy the same aftermarket parts as everybody else. That and nowadays you can customize Indian just as much as you can any other bike. Aftermarket availability is no longer an issue like it was when Polaris first purchased the company. And even then none of that has anything to do with the bike itself. At this point those arguments are nothing more than a way to justify preferring Harley over Indian. And there’s nothing wrong with that, as I plan on having Harleys, Indians, Yamahas, Hondas etc all in my garage as they each provide a different riding experience and utility, but if we’re reviewing a bike I think we should stick to reviewing the bike and not comparing and contrasting it to another brand. It’d be just as annoying if someone said, today we’re reviewing the Harley Pan America, it’s Harley’s version of the BMW GS. And then every other sentence kept mentioning the BMW GS, as though BMW is the only brand that can legitimately make ADV bikes without being branded as a copy. Eventually you’d be like ok we get it, you’re a BMW fanboy, let’s hear more about the Harley that you’re riding. And it’s not to say the Indian fanboy channels don’t do it either because they do and it’s equally annoying. It is possible to state an opinion on a motorcycle without comparing it to another brand.

lets cut to the chase, i am about to buy either harley low rider s or the chief dark horse, i would like to know your choice. i am not worried about price difference i just want the better bike in your opinion. regards Phil

@bobbylee3567

Ай бұрын

I got the Sport Chief over the Low Rider S and am happy I went with the Indian.

Watching your demo videos makes me feel incredibly lucky. In my area, Indian partnered with a local shop, had much of their line posted up out there for a week. It was set up so that you just register and they give you the keys and say "Be back in a half hour... or so...?" Companies should take notes on this. Riders are going to fall way harder for your bikes if they actually get to put in some work. I did not like the fit/finish of the chief. The FTR on the other hand. Isaidgotdamn.

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It's really hard to get a feel for anything while on a demo ride structured like this. I'll own the FTR Carbon one day...

Love the chief bobber that why I purchased chief

Is this only a 4 speed bike? The RPM's seemed too high for the speed you were doing on the highway. For me this is a deal breaker as I would expect an engine this size to be under 3,000 RPM at 60 MPH.

@leodoingthings1706

2 ай бұрын

its a 6 speed, idk why poeple ride it in lower gears. I drive in 6th gear at 60kmh in my triumph and he still likes it lol

I have a HD M8 street glide and I don’t like a loud bike, a little rumble yes but loud no. Secondly, I like a smooth robins and Indian has that all day like my club members Honda Goldwing with the smooth Freeway ride, dummy tech, water cooling, and manual/ automatic modes.

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah if that's your thing they definitely do a good job. I think I'm going to ride my first Goldwing soon. I'll post it if I do.

you say lacking in digital gauges, I say won't look completely outdated in 2 years ;) analog is never obsolete.

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

True. But a new look to the digital is just a download away...

@DavidSmith-jj5pr

2 жыл бұрын

I've tried with other electronic gear, but they say things like "insufficient memory, you need an upgrade" or "that model is no longer supported, here's a replacement available for purchase" So I just end up setting it on fire and putting it out with my trusty analog hammer. :)

To each his own, but one of the reasons I went with an Indian over a Harley, is I like that the fillings in my teeth aren't being rattled loose.

I like the Harley Evo motors as far as the character of a v-twin. Because I am 5'4", the new Chief model of Indians fits me better. Rider triangle is better with the mid controls for me. Seat and handlebars would be changed. Intake, exhaust, cam and tune would also be added.

Dam that’s a sharp ass bike!

Like both. Only I am in the minority. I like the analog gauges. If it's computerized it can be fucked with. I don't mind old school. And I've never been a fan of Indian seats.

Rode a chief bobber with the 111. It felt kinda cheap and rickety compared to my street bob which just seems so much more solid. Hard to explain any better than that. I’d like to try a dark horse stage 2 though!

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think fit and finish on anything outside of HD will feel that way. That's one thing Harley does better than anyone else. Also their paint is top of the food chain.

Looks like the digital gauge will watch in the sunlight easily.

Generally it's been my understanding the reason why they don't post horsepower numbers is when the horsepower numbers are nothing to brag about...... Unlike Torque also the 4 inch touch screen . Who had it first . I noticed a reference to Harley having it on the sportster S..who came out first with this ? As far as the engine and drivetrain do smooth I have a hard time interpreting that is being bad or negative. Even if you want to hear metal parts clanging and ticking and dining off of each other. From an engineering standpoint one of those two situations is considered Superior and one of them is not. For instance if you bought a new car and it had a lot of mechanical noise coming from the drivetrain you would probably be taking it back to the dealership immediately demanding something be fixed. But on a Harley it's deemed acceptable or in this case desirable. ? Interesting

In my honest opinion stick to short and sweet reviews that you have been doing

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

So just keep them shorter or you don't like the riding videos in general? Harley is really the only brand I have unlimited access to review and since I've done all of those, I'm looking for more ideas for content. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

@benlorenzo1966

2 жыл бұрын

@@throttleblip9854 Maybe just a bit too much deadspace between comments and behind the bars. Maybe...While on the bike when safe and at stops at stops show us down and right and down and left foot placement pegs, air cleaners tank all that. And if you rode to the event might have been good to add some "travelin' footage. Route, Gearing up, gas stop/food, arrival ect and back especially if you had any bad luck lol Good luck!

Why is it that the majority of reviewers dont get this bike out of third or fourth gear. Do you ride your harley around like that? Come on. Its a cruiser.

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

I would have loved to but as you could see the demo team wasn’t really interested in high speed. Lol

I know it's such a stupid comment, but it's is reality. I think Harley just has that real low rumble and powerful feel and sound. My Buddy's old 2009 Roadking is a beast! Indian just isn't there. I know most newer bikes are toned down. Maybe, an aftermarket exhaust would bring a Harley feel and sound to the Chief. I am seriously looking at the Super Chief, but keep coming back to the Roadking. I'd almost rather an older Roadking, get beefier bike, better fell and sound and save lots of money! Lot's of the review here is dead on. I was wondering how in the world the used Chief was so cheap! Compared to much old Harley's, the newer Chiefs were so cheap I figured they must have something majorly wrong with them.

Not good review…didn’t even ride in the power mode. Left a bunch out in my opinion. Fan of both makes.

Hey guys. I bought a Indian chief 2022 aswell. I dropped a straight piped video if your interested in checking it out

Two American motorcycle companies is a good thing it doesn't witch one you like better

Harley guys gonna Harley

Legacy buyers aren't nearly so into digital guages as younger buyers. Higher end bikes still geared towards legacy buyers. Harleys not wrong on that at this time. Within 3 years all the guages will likely be digital.

👍🏽

I think the Indian get better brand in 5 years , i like harley but their bikes to expensive and service is bad , i ride H.breakout 2018 and i really want buy the indian chief

The audio is off balance….the right side is muffled…or im deaf in my right ear….

Shift the damn thing man!

Try changing gears

This guy’s married to Harley. Indian’s where it’s at

Be careful millenial riders, once you go all smooth, reliable, and Hi tech with Harleys lineup. People will stop buying them because they just don't have that Harley look, feel, or sound anymore. Your already heading that direction. Some of you guys will just be happier on a Yamaha, and there's nothing wrong with that.

that test ride is a joke in my personal opinion. Try to rent the bike and have it for a few days so you can gas it. You will have a different opinion..........

@throttleblip9854

Жыл бұрын

I see where you're coming from but I've ridden over 100 different models of bike. I get a good idea really quickly what a machine is about. I'd still take the Street Bob over this one for a good many reasons.

I'll stick with my H-D's. Don't see anything worthwhile there to switch brands. Wonder if the "WOKE" community will force them to dump that brand name...

@tinman3586

Жыл бұрын

Unlikely because if they dump the name they dump their market share. Indians to a large extent are rebranded Victory motorcycles. Victory couldn't capture the heritage and nostalgia that Indian could in order to compete effectively with HD.

@JNAMOTORSPORTS

Жыл бұрын

Native Americans OK the Indian brand.

@BINK-ln6jx

11 ай бұрын

Funny because HD is slowly becoming woke.

@jne232

11 ай бұрын

@@BINK-ln6jx referencing the name "indian" surprised they can still call themselves that. Not whether they are a woke company or not.

@BINK-ln6jx

11 ай бұрын

@@jne232 I’m half Native American and I don’t have a issue with it. It’s not like red skins. So I don’t think people will have issues.

Just hearing this video I’m already tired of hearing the timing chain, reminds me of the Suzuki GS 650 single-cylinders of the 90’s.

Indian better.

This was a snoozefest. I was expecting more. You should delete it so no one elses time is wasted.

Im in LOVE w the Chief Bobber but i took out a 111, And didnt really POP like I was hopin. I felt it was comfortable but just didnt MOVE. Now… the SCOUT BOBBER? Pure Love😍