I own the Chief Vintage from the "Why we won't sell Indians" video. Almost 4 years and over 24,000 miles later, the bike has been flawless. I've ridden it from Massachusetts to West Virginia and every state in between with no issues whatsoever .

It wasn't the Indian motorcycle he hated, it was the treatment by the dealer.

@deepsleep7822

3 жыл бұрын

@wooley: true. But if the dealer is a douche, why get the bike? I mean, some where a long the way, you'll probably need to take the bike to the dealer. I don't need that kind of stress. I ride a bike to de-stress.

@armyretired28

Жыл бұрын

@@deepsleep7822 My HD dealer was a douche like Most all of them! They just want to sell you the HD trash and then treat you like crap when something goes wrong under warranty!

20K miles in three years on my '17 Chieftain LTD. One minor factory recall, no other issues. Love it.

@ronnierushing700

3 жыл бұрын

What was the recall if you don’t mind me asking

@JP-ec9rl

3 жыл бұрын

2018 limited. Best all around bike I've ever owned, and that includes the 2014 ultra I traded in on it.

@gtsteele6219

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronnierushing700 Dont' mind at all. It was a gear position switch. The digital readout became slow when changing gears up or down. Also, the factory was concerned that it would show neutral when it was actually in gear. The dealer fixed mine under warranty before the factory knew it was a more widespread problem. I subsequently received the improved switch with the recall.

@dontmakemelaugh01

11 ай бұрын

​@gtsteele6219 same . Had it taken care of a couple years ago. It's starting to do it again.

The two "buttons" on the tank are for power locking saddle bags/trunk (on the right) and heated grips (on the left).

Turquoise is a stone, beautiful when polished.

@ManBoo55

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and very much loved by native Americans. Appropriate for an Indian motorcycle

I prefer hd but am glad to see them have a serious contender, competition is good. It forces hd to stay focused.

The badges on the tank are hand made from Zambini Bro’s.

@cwroberts79

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Shaun doesn’t realize how expensive those are.

@michaelhirschfield692

3 жыл бұрын

5 seconds

That's such a beautiful bike. Definitely one I'd keep forever if I had it. Conversation starter that's for sure.

I'm new to your channel and I already love it. Been riding for about 8 years now and I'm ready to switch to a touring bike. I was between the vintage and the road king. I like the way you explain your knowledge. OAN: I do love how you always read a verse before riding.

I have a Chief Vintage, and I'll never go back to HD.

@wolfattack402000

3 жыл бұрын

I have a '14 Chief Vintage. Nice looking bike but....I also have a '17 HD Road King Special. The RK handles better and is much quicker. Fit and finish is better on the RK. My major complaint is Polaris' warranty service, it sucks. You have to do backflips if you have any issue, however minor, to file a claim. The leather fading issue was handled badly by Polaris - I had to re-treat the leather on my own via the technical advice with leather professionals. Some of the chrome is pitting in spite of keeping the bike well cared for and maintained. The front rotors warped and the dealer did not consider, at all, that it was a warranty issue. Now I do believe there are some issues with the HD M8, however, I am more happy with the RK (mainly due to handling and the vast amount of accessories available for it). The paint quality on the Indian is lack luster, very fragile and easy to chip. Harley has the best paint quality, I believe, bar none, and that includes the automotive world too. I ride the Road King much more because I enjoy it more. Although a true comparison of the suspension and ride would be more fair (to Harley) with the Standard Road King. Between the Indian Vintage and Road King Special, the Indian is more comfortable over bumps. Again, they are two different suspension clearances so it would be better to compare it to the Standard Road King. The Indian is prettier, the Harley looks more bad ass. It really boils down to personal preference as I believe the Harley warranty claims are handled better.

@johnnybgood1288

3 жыл бұрын

@@wolfattack402000 What kind of leather fading issue did you have with the Indian? How old was the bike when you had the leather issue and how many miles were on it? Do you keep both bikes outdoors 24/7?

@BRS-Peterbilt-379

3 жыл бұрын

@@wolfattack402000 Man, this was super helpful because I'm beating myself up over these 2 exact bikes right this moment! Thanks for your insight.

@jordanjoestar8839

3 жыл бұрын

@@wolfattack402000 Working at a place with nearly 50 of both in stock, and selling 150+ (PER MONTH) of mainly both, the issues you describe I have NEVER in my life seen or heard of. We took in nearly 80 Harleys in trade for Indians over bike week. In fact, some of them are $40,000 Harleys with less than 200 miles on them. The Indian has things the HD lacks, what it is? Well... you'll have to ask the thousands of people switching!

@jordanjoestar8839

3 жыл бұрын

@@BRS-Peterbilt-379 Go ride both then decide. I've never heard of those issues, nor seen them, and I work at Indian.

Who ever sees this have a amazing day, god loves you

@seantreloar1186

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers for that

@lreids

3 жыл бұрын

Not so sure

@jdkeith5373

Жыл бұрын

You too brother

@donatellosmithson

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I’ll pray for you brother.

@icepick859

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I had a 16 Chief Darkhorse and loved it. I sold it in18 to get a chieftain darkhorse. The 19s started looking like harleys. Love my chieftain. The adjustable electric windshield is one reason I would never consider a Harley. Very useful.

I think the brown bags, seat and whips, would pop on there. Make it look like a spotted horse. 🤔🤔🤔 black bikes are everywhere. The Indian brown seats, really helps them separate themselves from the others.

@johnnybgood1288

3 жыл бұрын

I am so sick and tired of black bikes!

@richardvalitalo3670

3 жыл бұрын

You mean painted horse? Or paints?

Love your video. Thank you. I just got my first Indian Chief Vintage. after 30 years of Harley . Great review.

Your THUNDER STROKE blew me away. Just what I needed. Thanks

My Dad's first cycle was a 1938 Indian - awesome video amigo.

I love Indian motorcycles. I have a 2014 Indian Chief. Amazing bike!

"Victory is on par with HD, if they have not surpassed" I love it!!!!

@patricksottek5913

3 ай бұрын

Not anymore.

Get your hands on the Indian Challenger. I'm interested in that one

Thank you for a good review. I own a 2020 Darkhorse Chief. I love it!!! Funny thing is that I was looking for a vmax because of your review. Nobody has one in Nashville. I drove the Darkhorse Chief one time, and purchased it a few days later.

I own a 2019 version with 3 ride modes. Ride this this bike in Sport mode--it flies!

"Victory is on-par with Harley Davidson..." I see what you did there 😉

@sergiocastro588

3 жыл бұрын

Well, victory is just immortal so, it’s not on par

@jasonrobertson5526

3 жыл бұрын

@@sergiocastro588 True. I meant he called it a Victory in that statement. He's riding an Indian.

@lupus6487

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonrobertson5526 Victory and Indian are both owned by Polaris making it the same company. Polaris ended their Victory line because Indian has an immortal name and there was no point in having two big v-twin company names.

I have 2019 Indian Dark Horse with the different drive modes and it is the best bike I ever had.

@MeyerBen27

3 жыл бұрын

S1KRR is 100000x better, you are a racist.

@JP-ec9rl

3 жыл бұрын

Mine's an 18 chieftain limited. I concur! Great motorcycles!

Love the 0-60 excuses, never gets old!

@norm1233

3 жыл бұрын

Thaught I was the only one who laughed about those

have a Springfield since 2016, just love it still and enjoy every km here in Germany.

This motorcycle is gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!

Please do a video of the w800 and especially the café version, looks really interesting

I have a '19 chief darkhorse....wife surprised me with it for my 30th. Love it! Thing is so fun to ride and alot more sportier than i thought too.

I plan on getting a chief dark horse as my first bike. (Yes I'm batshit crazy and I'm proud of it) but when I first went into the dealer, I was looking for a scout. Guy actually recommended I try the chief out and I'm GLAD I did, the scout felt small to me when I was sitting on it but the chief felt like a damn glove man. And you're right, it really doesn't feel all that heavy when you're riding it.

was waiting for this after you posted on insta

I've got an 18 dark horse. You are exactly right, I love the stripped down look. Not knocking Harley a bit but indian has it together on this bike. When I ride I dont want bags or extra frills in my way. Thanks for the vid and glad to see u have a better experience with an indian.....

@Iceman77772

3 жыл бұрын

Been debating on whether to ger a Harley or Indian Dark horse. From the reviews ive seen. The Indian has way better handling and riding comfort. As well as virtually no mechanical issues. Think I'll get the Dark Horse.

@maddoxoutdoors3396

3 жыл бұрын

@@Iceman77772 I can honestly say that I don't have much time for a nice bike but anytime I regret buying it, all I have to do is ride it. No remorse here.

@jonathanbarker2592

3 жыл бұрын

@@Iceman77772 I decided to get a Dark Horse this spring. I found one online in Detroit for the right price, so called the dealership and told them to hold it for me. Bought a one-way plane ticket from Utah, signed for it and rode it almost 2k miles homes. By the time I got home I'd already gotten more comments and people talking to me about it then the whole 2 years I rode a Harley lol. Harley's are good, but from where I'm sitting, the Dark Horse is better :)

I can’t recommend these enough. I bought a brand new one in 2018. I have no complaints.

The Chief Dark Horse certainly did come with bags & windscreen if so ordered. I had one, a 2016 & it was a great machine. It shared duty with my CVO Ultra which was, at the time, pushing 60k on the clock.

Hi Sean nice bike great vid thank you 🖐🇦🇺✌

The two buttons on the center console are... on the left heated handle grips (if installed) and the right is your lock/unlock button for the hard saddle bags if you buy them.

Thunderstroke sounds like something thor does in his house alone

@charleychafin4882

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it does

@mihermano936

3 жыл бұрын

😆😆

@johnnybgood1288

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO!!

You browse beat Indian then you love them I am starting to believe that you would try to sell a space heater to hades

I thought you weren't buying Indians anymore? because of the service you got at the Indian dealer ship.

@zancrus9629

3 жыл бұрын

That is what I thought as well.

@BikesNThings

3 жыл бұрын

I like to think he had the sense to not let a couple minimum wage employees ruin a whole motorcycle brand for him

@boomerguy9935

3 жыл бұрын

Still waiting for SRK's reply......

@347mav3

3 жыл бұрын

He'll buy anything he can make a dollar on...

@gd6349

3 жыл бұрын

4.5

When you go victory indian you never go Harley Davidson...

The local Indian dealer must love you now.

Hey man, love your videos. Why do you not have a review of the KLX 250? I love this bike and I am about to buy one (2021 model). Would love to hear your thought on it.

I got me a 2020 Springfield 116 dark horse, Sport mode should have been named Arrest mode

@michaelsisk5938

3 жыл бұрын

most definitely!

@davidefland1985

2 жыл бұрын

Prison mode 🤣

That looked super smooth

@mtl-ss1538

3 жыл бұрын

New Zealands billionaire Graeme Hart..!!!.. His 116 meter (380 ft) yacht Ulysses was in St John (US Virgin Islands) . . She was built by Kleven Yachts for Graeme Hart. . . He actually built two yachts; this one and a 107 meter, now named Andromeda. . . He reportedly sold Andromeda to billionaire Yuri Milner. . . In September 2019 & several messages that Milner also bought the 116 meter Ulysses (!). . . Hart in the meantime has bought the CRN yacht Cloud 9 and named her Odyssey. . . And we were also told that Hart bought the CRN yacht J’Ade. (And she is now on transport to New Zealand). .for the Americas Cup races in 2021..!!!

I just took home a 2020 Chief Vintage it's an awesome machine I love it.

@BRS-Peterbilt-379

3 жыл бұрын

8 months later, how do you like it? I called the dealer yesterday and I'm trying decide to buy or not.

@p50billadventures19

3 жыл бұрын

@@BRS-Peterbilt-379 go with it...you won't regret it.

Should have dark pipes in it. Would love to drive one ones day

@sivvinod3187

3 жыл бұрын

@kiki the gerbil so? I think it looks good in black.

@Mildern

3 жыл бұрын

The newer model years do have black pipes as well. Over the past 4 years or so they add a little more black to each model year.

@sivvinod3187

3 жыл бұрын

@kiki the gerbil ah

Damn that chief vintage is one good looking rig.

I ride a victory cct but the Indian takes the cake ,the are powerfully engine and the clutch is smooth with no cluncky shifting

My God I love this bike the way it looks all it needs is a stereo man its beautiful I was all about Harley till I seen this video

Great video

Beginning of the video " I dont like the saddlebags that got added" mid video* " the saddlebags I love the leather saddlebags" lol

If batman rode a motorcycle, it’s gonna be an all black MV agusta.

Talking bout the handle bar size I’ve been having a hard time finding a cell phone mount that fits, will the phone mount u always recommend fit this bike? Also while you have in your stable I wanna pout a sissy bar or stick on back to strap a bag when I go to work instead of carrying on my back. Can you recommend one for the dark horse. 🤗

A few months ago I test rode a Chief Dark Horse. It does ride pretty smooth, and suspension is very nice and soft. The con for me: I'm 180cm long (5.9) and the shifter is too much forward. I'm used to heel-toe shifting on my Intruder, and that would be a great feature on this motorcycle. The current shifter would have felt much nicer if I would have longer legs or even bigger feet. My advice: If you like the looks and have the money, go for it!

@wdkirkes62

3 жыл бұрын

CaridinaIntruder . Have intruder 1500. 5’ 6” tall. Know what you mean.

Beautiful review i wish you change the place of tourning

Could you do a review of a can am ryker rally cheers

@Srkcycles When are you gonna try the Challenger?

For Xmas can we please have Sean’s outtakes from the cutting room floor? All the things that got cut from the test drive videos?

Great video Caleb! The Dark Horse parked right next to my CVO Fat Boy would be awesome. The custom turquoise inlay is awesome too - very Indian.

I have a chief vintage with a decatted, performance programmed, cammed stage 2. Fun, big and fast. I can make it perform, but dig the unique look and color. It is different and not an HD.

I don’t normally like ‘all black’ bikes, but that Indian looks beautiful!

If you could have only one, FTR 1200 or the Chief? Another nice vid

Are you going to make a video on the 2020 katana?

I've got six bikes in my garage and one of them is an Indian. Man, what a bike it is.

I rode that bike in Daytona on a test run. It's comparable to the Heritage Harley but sits lower. My cousin Eddie ended up blowing up the engine after he test rode it.

Would love to see an Indian Scout Bobber review

After watching several of your 0-60 attempts, I’m pretty sure Ricky Gadson isn’t looking over his shoulder. 😁

I think the two unidentified buttons on the tank are to set the clock or trip counter on the odometer.

Absolutely awesome 👍 3 secs

What do you think of the braided covers on the levers with tassels? I have that on my limited and love them. I didnt know when I first got the bike but they feel great.

@richardsinck9563

3 жыл бұрын

What's the purpose of them

@sellison2192

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardsinck9563 I wear finger tip gloves and the feel of the braided cover is better than standard. I found it's just easier to feather the clutch with those. But that's just my experience.

I have a 400$ garage find... 95 Suzuki savage 650 with a grounding problem, cleaned carb, new filters, emptied tank, daily driven 2 years ago but my friend had a grounding issue on it which started to melt a wire.... sound like death or do I send it?

@2:31, those are usually the buttons to lock/unlock the saddlebags! Just an FYI. Since this came with none... well... yeah lol. Only needs one guage because they don't constantly have issues like _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ .

looks like beautiful lancaster county pa

Hey Sean. You had spoken about a verse that I cannot remember the number. Was from Matthew about if u do all your work for god he will always give you enough time and strength you need to get through. . I cant remember exactly. Could u help me remember the numbers. I had started working 2 jobs 2 months ago and have been feeling super overwhelmed and after u talked about that I heard it again from a coworker. And i think it's something i am suppose to pay attention to. Just wanna remember the verse better. Thank alot you guys. Keep em coming.

Hey Srkcycles my motorcycle got stolen and I was wondering if you have any tips to get it back

Love the tip of the hat to our fallen comrade.

only complaint i have of your vids is you use the same type of title. Don't buy, ect. it's kind of click bait to me , especially when as far as i know you have not ridden the bike that long. a first impressions i can see, but one short trip won't tell you everything. just my opinion. i do like that you tryout alot of bikes .

Read the title and immediately went to the website and ordered one. You don't control me. 😑😂

@RoAdSiCkZoMbIe

3 жыл бұрын

😆

You should do a GSXS-1000 vs FZ1 video since you have both right now!

0-60, around 4-5 seconds, but I'm just guessing. Never rode one of these beautiful bikes.

Can you do a test drive for Royal Enfield 500cc classic

can you make a video on the kawasaki zx14r

The Chief Dark Horse is my dream bike. The look of them, especially with beach bars and a spring seat, makes me want to throw down the money even though I know it's a bad idea with my limited experience. I love matte black, and I love Americana. This bike is absolutely both of those. I'm currently looking at a used Vulcan 900 so I can get used to bikes that are bigger and heavier than the little Rebel 450 that I've been riding. Once I have the experience though, a Chief Dark Horse will be mine.

@whatsup3270

3 жыл бұрын

I own a Vulcan so I maybe bias, however you can get all the bike you will ever need for less than $5,000 if you buy Nov-Feb a near meant condition 6+ year old Vulcan can be purchased as low as $3,500. The bikes are very low maintenance and can easily run 100,000 miles

@ThePorschefan

3 жыл бұрын

Hey same here! I would prefer the Springfield Dark Horse but still, the Dark Horse line up are my dream bikes, they look so badass and I have heard nothing but great things about performance

@iamIncrediblehulk

3 жыл бұрын

Get the Honda shadow phantom. You may not want the Indian after u ride it. @1/2 the price as well. Just saying....

@badopinionsrighthere

3 жыл бұрын

Google up "old inc fiberglass fenders". I have a drifter fender on my vulcan 900 and it's a great platform till you're ready to move up. I can show you pics of what my 900 looks like with their fender, it's perfect

@gregp1409

3 жыл бұрын

@@iamIncrediblehulk Even when I was on my V Star 1300 my wife's Shadow 750 felt like a scooter in comparison. Maybe if you started on a Shadow and never rode a bigger bike that would be all you want... maybe ;-P But after riding an Indian a Honda Shadow isn't even close; as long as you're willing to pay the difference of course. Notice I said WILLING to pay not can AFFORD to pay. I hate it when people think that just because someone is riding a smaller cheaper bike it's becasue of a financial limitation instead of what they person wants to ride. BTW I'm not an Indian, or any bike (owned Kawi, Honda, Yamaha, Victory, and Indian), snob. But they're not even close to the same league of bike.

was the brake fluid low?

perfect timing, currently have a streetglide but im looking to get a almost new, or actually new indian chief or springfield. great video as always!

@jonathanbarker2592

3 жыл бұрын

I bought a new 2019 Indian Springfield this year... holy cow brother you wouldn't BELIEVE how many comments I get. I've never had dudes roll their windows down at red lights and ask me Where I got it/How much it costs/etc... Harleys are cool, but Indians turn heads more, and to be honest come with just as much muscle and even more tech straight from the factory.

@Shmitty-17

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanbarker2592 I appreciate the reply, Im prob gonna be driving away with one soon than

Damn, I can see the rust bubbles on the skirted fender from here..

Never owned a HD when test riding them was never impressed compared to my Honda VTX 1800, with that said though cannot wait till I get my 20 Chieftain with a few upgrades 😎

Is the Chief or Springfield bigger than a HD Road King ? Thanks

My O to 60 guestimate ...5.3 second. On a side note, I love the way that bike sounds; full, low octave purr is so cool. Yes, I get the loud thumper Harley deal, but this bike sounds like it has so much power, yet it’s not rattling you’re melon.

@bldallas

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I was close! Loved the sound of the burnout, but it probably cost you a couple tenths of a second.

It is amazing

Love the power of my indian Roadmaster ts 111

This is the Indian Vintage Dark Horse, regular 2020+ chief dark horse fenders doesn't look like that.

Which year is this bike in video?

I’m not a cruiser guy but this is a beautiful bike

Try speed shifting. Keep the throttle open

Went and looked at new Indians yesterday. Love the new bikes and they feel nice but $28K is a bit steep for a bike. The Challenger looked like the Road Glide and fixed fairings throw me off big time. Chieftain was Street Glide comparable and I did see a Dark Horse on the floor.

Perfect bike

I await the day Sean reviews an actual horse.

My triumph thunderbird storm 1700 does 0 to 60 in 3.3 seconds now. Partly because I got better at take off and partly because some mods

Harley equivalent !?!? Nah they don't have one, the Indian handles way better, brakes better, feels more comfortable to be on and thanks to excellent suspension tuning on the front and that Fox shock on the back it absolutely eats the Harley on the rougher roads and bumpy corners. Now I'm talking apples for apples, one touring bike against another, all of Harley's touring bikes have at best two and a half inches of rear suspension travel whilst the Indian has four and a half. As a long time Road King owner who has traversed Australia more than once, I can tell you that one ride on the Indian blew my mind. If you ride both and still buy a Harley, it's because you're buying into a brand, that's it, nothing more, there is no way your Harley is better.

I love my 2016 darkhorse. I have put 20k miles on it in the past 3 years and it has been absolutely amazing. There are a few issues with it. But it doesn't bother me

@pythonman8103

2 жыл бұрын

Well…..what were the issues???

@zenrider_9622

2 жыл бұрын

@@pythonman8103 the speed sensor on the front wheel isn't protected very well and has had to be replaced twice due to small rocks hitting it when riding down gravel roads, the gear indicator switch gets clogged up with belt shavings and will show the wrong gear and can actually start in gear if your not careful, happened to me once lol (Indian has a recall with new designed switch I just have not done it yet), and the ABS will sometimes work and sometimes not work and has been like that for a long time.The heated grips are not very warm at all and are basically useless( this is probably my fault because I didn't install correctly or I might need to update the pcm). Stock oem battery SUCKS and is a hit or miss with how long it will last, I replaced it with a higher CCA battery and is a major difference in starting as well. Minor issues in my opinion but they are technically problems. I have about 30k miles on it now, still running strong.