Kraven: That right! I was Spider-Man the whole time. Harry Osborn: Then who was Kraven? Kermit the Frog: I was.

@cruz_vnidal6615

4 жыл бұрын

*intense music*

@morganhopelang784

4 жыл бұрын

O_____O That's a whole new level of awesome! ^o^

Most stupid twists in comics... ...you're gonna need a bigger list.

@cheeseballgooberpants3591

4 жыл бұрын

JustAName Not just a bigger list a whole schedule to do them all

@crystalmptacek

4 жыл бұрын

Multiple part videos maybe.

@TheRezro

4 жыл бұрын

And less opinionated. Mobius is Earth make sense. It was even mentioned in Sonic OVA from 99'e (yes, it is a shit outside amazing fight with Metal, but that is not the point): kzread.info/dash/bejne/gaycr7ukj9vSmrQ.html

The biggest stupid twist in Civil War was the fact that we were supposed to believe Captain Americas team were in the wrong the whole time :P

@alexanderchristopher6237

4 жыл бұрын

Well, isn't he? All of them (figuratively speaking) had taken the mantle of superheroes to defend Earth from all threats, internal and external. All of them are even willing to sacrifice their lives for the cause. They're like soldiers of this world who are willing to lay down their lives so that we can sleep soundly at night. And what good are soldiers if they cause a civil war? They'll just wreck more chaos and destruction. Look up past and modern conflicts, espescially the civil war kinds, and you'll see my point.

@bunny_wilder

4 жыл бұрын

I feel there's more of a debate of who's right or wrong in the first civil war. Civil war 2 tho, captain marvel is just wrong

@dustyrose192

4 жыл бұрын

You'er gonna let a govenment that was sleeping on a massive chi,d sex ring decide where heroes go to save people? Oh yeah, the government decides who to save and who to let die

@localloser7415

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderchristopher6237 Nah that was all self defense

@localloser7415

2 жыл бұрын

@@bunny_wilder I feel like it's the other way around

If you can’t be good, then be bloody careful.

Monarch: You thought it was Captain Atom, but it was I Hawk! Dio Brando: Am I joke to you?

Everyone here's talking about comics meanwhile I'm still hung up on there where vampires in general hospital?

@Bigd2k

4 жыл бұрын

That does sounds completely crazy doesn’t it.

@johnathonhaney8291

4 жыл бұрын

Given that the devil showed up possessing a main character on Days of Our Lives? Nothing is off the table after that!

Didn't WhatCulture just release a video where Secret Invasion was praised as one of the best plot twists in comics history?

I really like this presenter

@pokerations

Жыл бұрын

Lol nice,

Still can't get over that there is a) a black dude doing videos for WhatCulture and b) a non-Adam is doing a video for WhatCulture!

@Whizkidd2025

4 жыл бұрын

Jamel Watson - right! I was excited.

@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774

4 жыл бұрын

Jamel Watson ikr, a surprise, but a welcome one

@dmonvisigoth1651

4 жыл бұрын

Bout time

@jeremyadkins9665

4 жыл бұрын

I can't get over that the Archie Sonic comics, for once, got a mention in these Top lists. Though, I do agree with the choice for number 10, regardless.

Am I the only one that liked identity crisis? I thought it added mystery, as well as showing the heroes in a different light, while also applying a darker tone.

@johnathonhaney8291

4 жыл бұрын

That darker tone has spent the last twenty years breaking DC Comics because they forgot how to lighten up.

@MadSnake123

4 жыл бұрын

I don't mind the different shades of personalities from DC heroes .. The thing with this comic is that many decisions didn't made any sense and they were only for shock value, not to mention there was virtually no pay off, I mean Dr Light never did anything worth after the comic, Sue's death was completely unnecessary and the brain washing was really out of character for pretty much everyone. So yeah, not a fan.

@shinigami146

3 жыл бұрын

I also liked it as a whole but I didn't like the twist of the killer's identity.

I could listen to this guy talk all day. Enjoyed the video

@cheeseballgooberpants3591

4 жыл бұрын

Anthony Jaggers The new guy sounds interesting he just needs a bit more emotion a bit

@cheeseballgooberpants3591

4 жыл бұрын

Then again he’s new so he needs to ease in before being comfortable

@SuffuseStudios

4 жыл бұрын

I was gonna type this brov... but you wrote it first. So true

@webtely

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah much better than Evan and that other guy.

Welcome to the WC family Aurie. Loved your out to dude.

This new guy started great! Honest and with good comments.

I like how you went through explaining each problem with the entries on the list, those other fools don’t even bother... xcept for Jules

I still maintained the clone saga could’ve work if the marketing team didn’t hijack the story and ran the entire story to the ground

@TheRezro

4 жыл бұрын

Yup!

@TevyaSmolka

4 жыл бұрын

TheRezro indeed

@KenBeeKJV

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

Welcome Aurie! (This is the first video I've seen you present.) And well done. And as always, thank you all so very much for your video.

This is one of the best videos I've seen!! Keep homie on these videos and I will keep liking, sharing and commenting!!!

Yo this new guy is dope asf. Need this guy to do more lists

Identity Crisis was legit. So was Civil War. Both titles got me back into reading DC & Marvel, respectively. I accept your criticisms, starting now. I'm just glad there's a black dude on WCC now!

Identity crisis was good and set the relationship for Batman and the Justice League that is still in play today. Secret Invasion was also amazing

This channel is the stable comic book channel for me.

This guy kills it as a narrator

That picture of Wolverine at 0:37 is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen.

If you can't be good be "bloody" careful. Brilliant, simply brilliant phrasing. Curious did we not want to mention Wally West twist of killing himself and leaving all of us in awe?

Whatculture hired a black person? What a twist!

@redbird4168

4 жыл бұрын

What? 😶

@codypatton2859

4 жыл бұрын

@@redbird4168 Usually, their presenters are all white so seeing that one is a black guy is a shock. To quote Palpatine, "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." I get the feeling you are reading way too far into that guy's comment.

@baltimorecreoleman

4 жыл бұрын

As soon as he started talking I said the same thing

Lol @ “silly even for a Batman villain”!

I don’t know. Secret invasion was a pretty good story based on a good concept. I personally thought the twists actually came into the buildup not the end, which made it a bit different

Bank Robber who doesn't know Spiderman surrendered when Spidey threatened to 'summon the spiders' and everyone in the bank played along; 'Oh, no, Spiderman, *anything* but the spiders!' Robber saw a spider in an office plant, freaked out, and surrendered his weapon. Funny enough the Spider Trackers that Spiderman uses to, well, keep track of his stuff (he also had one in MJ's wedding ring) uses technology similar to Hank Pym's ant-tech, as he discovered when he asked Pym to help find his wallet, no joke. This means Spidey could theoretically make a gadget to summon a horde of spiders!

Cap's Avengers didn't lose in the sense that Iron Man's forces defeated them. After being accosted by non-supers, Cap realized the destruction that was being caused by their battle and surrendered. Fury's LMD are part of his legend at this point. Grouping together all of those reveals diminishes the times when the reveals were actually pretty awesome. Hopefully one day Nick Fury will stop being "The Unseen" and resume his place as the top spy in the Marvel Universe.

Hey you forgot General Hospital had an alien storyline back in the 80s. So Vampires sounds about right.

FINALLY SOME ARCHIE SONIC LOVE~!!! You should do more videos relating to Archie, and Fleetway Sonic Comics.

@KaileyLulamoon

4 жыл бұрын

@Raul Gonzalez Are you okay?

The new guy is dope.

Ironically the Clone Saga is what got me into comics.

How did "One More Day" NOT make this list?

Respectfully elegant analysis/&dissection🎥👑

5:50 no that he’s bi polar And two secret invasion wasn’t even like that They barely even change anything of note

Diarrhea is a hell of a plot twist yo! Uh!

My top three: Identity Crisis Number One. Check. Clone Wars. Check, but it deserved to be even higher. Bringing back Jason Todd. Seriously. Jason Todd staying dead was the one super-hero death that offered any sense of permanent continuity. Their refusal to commit to even that was the final nail in long-running comic-book continuity.

So, That "Mobius was Earth" nonsense? THAT was all Ken Penders. After the lawsuit was dealt with, Archie erased all that Penders did, including that stupid retcon, with the Super Genesis Wave.

Batman leaves Catwoman for Polka-dot Man

Love the new guy but 4 things 1. Civil War was dope 2. Secret Invasion was dope 3. I love that of all the ridiculous things about Sharon you didn't mention the fact Cap used to bang her aunt in WW2 then upgraded to the 21st century model after getting unfrozen 4. Am I the only one who always assumed the Mobius twist was what happened even before Archie failed horribly at trying to be Adventure Time before Adventure Time was a thing?

He really shit on the Hush change? The motivation of Hush was amazing and an awesome twist. The point of making you think it was JT was why it becomes a "twist" and not just the general plot...

Here's another stupid twist: Retconned Cassandra Cain (in name only) killed Harper Row's Mom, Batman & Robin Eternal. An obvious turn before it was revealed, and as well as a vain attempt to strain an undeveloped but instantly solidified friendship in one example of many of Tynion's penchant for cheap emotional manipulation. Dear lord, that entire story was a mistake.

There is something didn't know thank you what culture for telling about that sonic comic thing

Looks pretty good

Imagine thinking Hush was a bad twist bc no one saw it coming.....you know.....the point of big twists in villain identities.

*cough* jane as thor *cough* *cough*

Well said.

The tragedy that is Identity Crisis can be forgiven because Brad Meltzer also wrote Archer’s Quest. Jeph Loeb is my favorite comic author and for every five amazing stories he writes he has at least one real stinker. It’s just how it goes for most authors.

Fuckin general hospital? I'm ouT

Is this the new hire? Like him!

Tolkien was HOBBITS. LOVECRAFT was cthulhu. Welcome to the internet.

Who drew Gary Busey as Wolverine at the beginning there?

Xorn wasn't actually Austen's fault but Bendis'. He had Magneto appear at the end of "Avengers: Disassembled" to pick up the Scarlet Witch. Austen had the unwelcome pleasure to deliver an Explanation.

Could you do a top 10 list of best twist in comics next?

@INFERNO95

4 жыл бұрын

David Dyster Does any plot twist in comics is even good to begin with?

Clone Saga... I get it...but INDENITY CRISIS?? Damn brah

0:35 What the eff was that?!?

Love this presenter! He is great!

I like this guy. Give him more scripts watchmojo.

@SilverByakuya

4 жыл бұрын

You mean whatculture ?

@mothman4191

4 жыл бұрын

@@SilverByakuya ehhhh whats the difference

@Awhqua

4 жыл бұрын

SilverByakuya lmao yes I did. Forgive me I sparked an L with this video and by the end I forgot what channel I was on.

Batwoman #25, where we find out that Batwoman and Flamebird are the cousins of Batman is still stupid...

I think with the current social climate, it would be the perfect time to introduce a serious take on Anarky in film and I'd love to see it. I liked him in the Arkham games too.

@TheDjbz

4 жыл бұрын

He was in one of them

@BarbedWireGardens

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheDjbz which film was he in? I don't remember him at all.

@TheDjbz

4 жыл бұрын

HopeHouse44 I apparently misread your comment as you’d like to see him in the game series 😂

@BarbedWireGardens

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheDjbz no problemo

I knew Aurie was a brother straight away.

wait so there was both a marvel and dc storyline titled identity crisis? Huh I was only familar with the spider-man one until about five minutes ago.

Vampires showed up in General Hospital???🤔

Awesome....~~More of this smooth talking nerd, please.

How is heroes being Skrulls a bad twist just because it retcons stuff? Comics retcon stuff all the time.

Idk I thought secret invasion was alright

Ok Ori, I see you

1rst one kinda makes sense

I loved the real clone saga!

The grand comic edition is always a something that should include a big deep plot I think many of which have a few twisted ideas or ideas that have happened before just a retelling of a strange one the muliverse plot is used lots it is clever to have a hidden history from the rest of the universe of a hero that has two or three different origins but not current to the one universe or another dimension he or she has a family history that is linked to a villain or cosmic god that isn't much more than a twist of fate. Hero's origin's are very different to the original stories of which always changes evertime but if they go bad or mad their status is rewriting the heart of origin is a tree a lot of roots and lot of paths.

One of the dumbest has to be Iceman was gay all along. A dumb tactic to get people interested in Bendis run of X-Men

Hush being Jason Todd would have scrapped what turned out to be an amazing story in under the red hood. It being Thomas Elliot was out of no where and unexpected. You’re right. Which is what made it good. We spent a year getting to know this character, and he turns out to be an incredible foe against Batman? Hell yeah. A lot of this list is reaching pretty far mate. But that entry was just plain silly.

@Numberonedaredevilfan

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's not though

Finally a new host that's not shit

0:09-0:16 Gold Experience Requiem be like

Putting Watchmen in the DC universe is a stupid plot twist that ruined Watchmen

Number 1 is disrespectful.

Wow

7:46 yeah dude,that's the point of a twist. if you see it coming it's not a very good twist.

I started collecting Spider-Man comics in 1979. A couple years after the clone saga I stopped. That’s how bad it ruined the character for me.

Strongly disagree with #6. Secret Invasion was great. Civil War wasn't great but it wasn't terrible either.

>Sonic has a garbage story. Well that's how it gained its fandom, which writes equally garbage stories.

Any reboot of a beloved series that is written by another writer who has no love of every character in the series is stupid.

I actually really liked Identity Crisis idc

The Clone Saga was not fun to read as a kid. I love Miles but couldn't get into Riley.

Could be worse in the Animated Hush film it's not Jason Todd or Thomas Elliot under the bandages the actual answer is just plain stupid

Yeah, Identify Crisis. Wiping Batman's brain should have had consequences. Bruce is not the most well-adjusted character on a good day. No way would he not find out or take it nicely. And for what reason did Zatanna agree to this idea? He wouldn't beat her up but the rest of the Justice League are running close to getting Bat-punched and thrown in Arkham. Not worth the risk, remember Bruce has files on everyone's weaknesses. Even superheroes aren't this dumb.

I disagree with most of this list. I do enjoy the presenter. Would love to see some personal stories from the crew about which comic runs made them fans.

Unpopular opinion: I don’t think Identity Crisis was as bad as everyone says it is

@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774

4 жыл бұрын

Not that unpopular

DC and Marvel both are a cesspool of contradictory arcs and plots that that never get resolved or even left left alone Talking about the many times that when they killed someone off, it was either not them, or not permanent Not amused

@MrSafior

4 жыл бұрын

Blame the fan, casual or professional, who want their favorite character to come back.

Identity Crisis....uh NO!!

Superman isn't dead. He went into a stgri gsd t ssf gfj and is back because kryptonian science. Has ruined all comics

@TheRezro

4 жыл бұрын

He already did dozen times before Death of Superman. It is hilarious that people believed that it was permanent 0_0

@the83rdtrombonist60

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRezro Remember that DC propped it up to be the actual end of Superman

@gra9

4 жыл бұрын

@@the83rdtrombonist60 thats what you call marketing. Its stupid to think they would kill off superman

Tsk, more Ewan.

#bringAriback

I don’t agree that the twist of the Justice League wiping out memories is stupid ! I thought it was interesting to see that even they sometimes do things that are morally questionable !

@Nerwrax15

4 жыл бұрын

.....the most powerful team of heroes on the planet should NOT be morally questionable....

@Jamooson_

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nerwrax15 well I mean when you're protecting the world from a gray man that wants to pound your head in like a watermelon, and also live in well, to put it bluntly, a world where a lottttttt of the villians are genuinely horrible people (added to the fact the worst of them, Joker, can kill thousands of people and never get any real punishment because he escapes all the time) I can kinda understand why they did what they did.

Legit did not know you guys had black people working for you! 😂

@loka7783

4 жыл бұрын

"See Ma? They come in this color too!" - Gabriel Iglesias 😂

Sins Past is terrible...

Things must really suck in England right now .Cause. it sounds like a cary Trump rant ,And only say this video is bashing some very great storylines in comics ,Which most are classics in the comics universe ,But I guess there has to be a crazy rant about classic. comics ,And nothing to what screwups in the current comics ,That's al right the classic rule ,Even if some the writers. screwed around the story ,Sure beats whoever that mess is in comics today .Yeah I think one this one or this debate ,or crazy dude rants on the classics .

9:15 not really there is worst offenders then that And LMD are great And have a problem with that then you have problems with doombot and sinster clones It’s doesn’t ruin anything

Holy crap what culture hired a black man for once... yay!